From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/46547 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Does ConTeXt really support russian language? Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:01:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4954B96F.60502@wxs.nl> References: <200812251101.04899.cdome@bk.ru> <6faad9f00812250421s3e57d8a5g4de1a149128f9715@mail.gmail.com> <6faad9f00812250531gd086b87q5e139f24fe5546c8@mail.gmail.com> <49539013.60408@elvenkind.com> <67A1BD31-13D2-4C20-91EB-30215385ECE3@gmail.com> <6faad9f00812250749r24e3b0d8h7397c61477e9f3c7@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1230289417 16502 80.91.229.12 (26 Dec 2008 11:03:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:03:37 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Dec 26 12:04:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LGAUk-0008CS-F4 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:04:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88C41FBD5; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:03:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19893-03-6; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:01:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437261FB77; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:01:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337381FB8F for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:01:56 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18682-09-3 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:01:05 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C0D1FB60 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:01:04 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.9e) with ESMTP id 20352-1840426 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:01:03 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) In-Reply-To: X-Originating-IP: 10.100.1.100 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:46547 Archived-At: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > Am 25.12.2008 um 16:49 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: > >> I'm still curious: what's the difference between cm-super and >> cm-unicode (apart from size and different format)? > > cm-super: type1 > cm-unicode: opentype > > Their main purpose is to create free good quality fonts for use > in X applications supporting many languages. (cm unicode [1]) > >> One thing that I would like to see preserved within minimals is "full >> compatibility" in the sense that what works in minimals should also >> work on TeX Live and MikTeX. Maybe not today because TeX Live is >> outdated and MikTeX dropped support for ConTeXt for some unpredictable >> amount of time, but a year later or if someone updates ConTeXt in TeX >> Live.) >> >> In the old ConTeXt distribution there were lots of files that were not >> present anywhere else, so what worked in the ConTeXt distribution did >> not work in TeX Live or Minimals which is a pity. Such >> incompatibilities should be solved in other ways. >> >> So I would prefer to add packages that are on CTAN (or are planned to >> go there) and have some potential to become part of MikTeX and TeX >> Live. Is anyone working on cm-unicode being added to CTAN (preferrably >> in TDS-compliant way)? Does that make sense? > > > I can make a package and put it on CTAN but the question is, do you > want them in the minimals, do we need type1 files and if yes for which > encodings, only t2a or more. the problem with cmsuper is that as soon as we start adding that the minimals get bloated; for that reason some time ago we had only a small subset ... only 10 pt sized for cmsuper and cbgreek (and then one should use the generic 10 pt design size typescript instead of the cm scaled ones); after all, the traces are suboptimal anyway however, the best would be - to add cyrillic to lm and all gyre fonts - but for that to happen we need to have the proper shapes now, for gyre there is some support but its suboptimal (as it seems hard to get cytillic users organized to support this development and do the needed QA) for lm i can imagine that we try to 'launch' a project that makes it happen but this can only be done if there is some real input from the cyrillic user community so, the bottom line is: if you want cyrillic in these fonts, then get organized and it might happen Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________