Exclude bibliographic entries from list even when cited with \cite

Exclude bibliographic entries from list even when cited with \cite

[Joey McCollum via ntg-context]

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Hi,

It's taken a couple weeks, but I nearly have a working bibliographic
rendering for SBL style ready. I'm hosting the .lua and .mkvi files I have
so far, as well as a test .bib and .tex file, on GitHub at
https://github.com/jjmccollum/context-sbl. The look of the rendering seems
to be correct for all of the examples, so the last remaining tasks mostly
concern some lower-level technical issues.

Because of the way that SBL style renders entries that are contained in
other works (e.g., a chapter in a book that is part of a multivolume
collection), it seemed natural to accommodate this by allowing entries to
have cross-references to other entries. The rendering process can then be
handled through recursive subcitations with different alternatives. In
general, I handle these subcitations with the \textcite command, so that
"higher-level" entries are not added to the list when they are only
subcited.

An important guideline that I still have to implement works in the opposite
direction: it says that entries in certain categories should not be added
to the list, but the books or collections containing them should be. I
think I could make this work for the subcitation using the \listcite or
\cite command recursively. But is there a way to conditionally handle
whether or not to add the entry to the list after I invoke the \cite
command, or is this built into the \cite command at a low level? If I had
to, I could define an \autocite command that does all of these checks
first, but if it's possible to keep the common \cite command instead of
forcing users to use a different command, that would be preferable.

Thanks!

Joey

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Re: Exclude bibliographic entries from list even when cited with \cite

[Denis Maier via ntg-context]

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Joey, I’ve only had a quick look on this, but, seriously, this looks awesome and impressive. Looks like I can soon start to teach ConTeXt courses instead of LaTeX at my department :-)

All the best,
Denis

Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> Im Auftrag von Joey McCollum via ntg-context
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. September 2021 20:46
An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Cc: Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
Betreff: [NTG-context] Exclude bibliographic entries from list even when cited with \cite

Hi,

It's taken a couple weeks, but I nearly have a working bibliographic rendering for SBL style ready. I'm hosting the .lua and .mkvi files I have so far, as well as a test .bib and .tex file, on GitHub at https://github.com/jjmccollum/context-sbl. The look of the rendering seems to be correct for all of the examples, so the last remaining tasks mostly concern some lower-level technical issues.

Because of the way that SBL style renders entries that are contained in other works (e.g., a chapter in a book that is part of a multivolume collection), it seemed natural to accommodate this by allowing entries to have cross-references to other entries. The rendering process can then be handled through recursive subcitations with different alternatives. In general, I handle these subcitations with the \textcite command, so that "higher-level" entries are not added to the list when they are only subcited.

An important guideline that I still have to implement works in the opposite direction: it says that entries in certain categories should not be added to the list, but the books or collections containing them should be. I think I could make this work for the subcitation using the \listcite or \cite command recursively. But is there a way to conditionally handle whether or not to add the entry to the list after I invoke the \cite command, or is this built into the \cite command at a low level? If I had to, I could define an \autocite command that does all of these checks first, but if it's possible to keep the common \cite command instead of forcing users to use a different command, that would be preferable.

Thanks!

Joey

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Re: Exclude bibliographic entries from list even when cited with \cite

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 9/16/2021 8:45 PM, Joey McCollum via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It's taken a couple weeks, but I nearly have a working bibliographic 
> rendering for SBL style ready. I'm hosting the .lua and .mkvi files I 
> have so far, as well as a test .bib and .tex file, on GitHub at 
> https://github.com/jjmccollum/context-sbl 
> <https://github.com/jjmccollum/context-sbl>. The look of the rendering 
> seems to be correct for all of the examples, so the last remaining tasks 
> mostly concern some lower-level technical issues.
> 
> Because of the way that SBL style renders entries that are contained in 
> other works (e.g., a chapter in a book that is part of a multivolume 
> collection), it seemed natural to accommodate this by allowing entries 
> to have cross-references to other entries. The rendering process can 
> then be handled through recursive subcitations with different 
> alternatives. In general, I handle these subcitations with the \textcite 
> command, so that "higher-level" entries are not added to the list when 
> they are only subcited.
> 
> An important guideline that I still have to implement works in the 
> opposite direction: it says that entries in certain categories should 
> not be added to the list, but the books or collections containing them 
> should be. I think I could make this work for the subcitation using the 
> \listcite or \cite command recursively. But is there a way to 
> conditionally handle whether or not to add the entry to the list after I 
> invoke the \cite command, or is this built into the \cite command at a 
> low level? If I had to, I could define an \autocite command that does 
> all of these checks first, but if it's possible to keep the common \cite 
> command instead of forcing users to use a different command, that would 
> be preferable.
a few quick remarks (i'll look better into it later)

   % Various Lua macros for parsing and conversion
   \startluacode
     sblhelpers = sblhelpers or {}

i think we should havea namespace for these kind of things in order not 
to polute the global namespace

something publications.btx and then publications.btx.slb = { }

this is tricky and will clash:

\def\ordinal#1{\ctxlua{sblhelpers.ordinal([==[#1]==])}}%
\def\convertdate#1{\ctxlua{sblhelpers.convertdate([==[#1]==])}}%
\def\serializelocationpublisher#1#2{\ctxlua{sblhelpers.serializelocationpublisher([==[#1]==],[==[#2]==])}}%
\def\serializevolumenumberdatepage#1#2#3#4{\ctxlua{sblhelpers.serializevolumenumberdatepage([==[#1]==],[==[#2]==],[==[#3]==],[==[#4]==])}}%

% Define some helper functions for subcitations
\let\btxparenttag\empty% the tag of the entry subciting the current one
\def\btxprintpubl{yes}% yes/no indicating whether publication 
information should be specified for the current citation or subcitation
\let\btxcurrentsubcitetype\empty% the type of subcitation we're invoking

here

    \def\btxsblordinal

is better, but as you're using protection, even better is

   \def\btx_sbl_ordinal

i also wonder about the

   \clf_btxdirect

we need a \btxdirect... (have to think about a name) because one never 
knows how a lowlevel command evolves (or at least i shoudl somehow make 
a not that it can't evolve (or make a keyword driven variant) ... idem 
for \clf_author (btw, no need for these end-of-line % in texdefinitions

I'll add string.wordsplitter so that

     local andsplitter = string.wordsplitter("and")

     local a = andsplitter("a and b and c")
     local a = andsplitter("a and b  and c")
     local a = andsplitter("a            and b    and c")

all work as expected

i'll add an extended publ-imp-author.mkvi to the distribution, the other 
ones can come later (including the manual).

Hans


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