* issue with imposition
@ 2009-01-18 19:05 Pablo Rodríguez
2009-01-18 20:38 ` Willi Egger
2009-01-19 22:29 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2009-01-18 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hi there,
I would like to use the imposition capabilities from ConTeXt to be able
to print a PDF book in a standard laser printer. To save paper, I use
the 2UP arranging option thanks to this code from the wiki:
\definepapersize [filius][width=135.9mm, height=231.8mm]
\setuppapersize [filius][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging [2UP,doublesided]
\setuplayout [backspace=0pt,
topspace=0pt,
width=middle,
height=middle,
location=middle,
header=0pt,
footer=0pt,
grid=no, marking=off]
\starttext
\filterpages[ZittrainTheFutureoftheInternet.pdf][4:351][height=21cm]
\stoptext
The PDF file can be downloaded from
http://futureoftheinternet.org/static/ZittrainTheFutureoftheInternet.pdf.
The issue here is that I get a resulting paper size with the filius
height and not with 21cm from A4.
I have tried have the output in a standard A4 paper size, but all that I
got is a scaled down PDF. I would like to avoid scaling the document if
that were possible.
Is there any way, given the example above, to impose the filius paper
size on a real landscape A4 without having to scale down the PDF document?
Thanks for your help,
Pablo
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* Re: issue with imposition
2009-01-18 19:05 issue with imposition Pablo Rodríguez
@ 2009-01-18 20:38 ` Willi Egger
2009-01-18 21:51 ` Pablo Rodríguez
2009-01-19 22:29 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Willi Egger @ 2009-01-18 20:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hi Pablo,
The problem is that the filius-page is higher than the width of an
A4. So there is no way other than to scale the original pages down to
a height of 210mm. For this action you can use something like
The following code in a tex-file.
\definepapersize[Mypaper][height=210mm,width=123mm]
\setuppapersize
[Mypaper][Mypaper]
\setuplayout
[page]
\starttext
\copypages
[input.pdf]
[scale=905,
offset=0pt]
\stoptext
The resulting pdf-file should then be arranged. However I would
suggest not to use 2UP. Arranging the whole file (351 pages) with
2UP results in a rather thick single booklet of 88 A4-sheets. What
you can try is to setup arranging as follows (untested). Put this
code into an environment file e.g. arrange.tex
\definepapersize[Mypaper][height=210mm,width=123mm]
%\definepapersize [offset=15pt]
\setuppapersize
[Mypaper][A4,portrait]
\setuplayout
[backspace=0pt,
topspace=0pt,
width=middle,
height=middle,
%location=middle,
header=0pt,
footer=0pt]
\setuppagenumbering[location=,alternative=doublesided]
\setuparranging[2*2*4]
\starttext
\insertpages[input-scaled.pdf][width=0pt]
\stoptext
On the commandline call conTeXt as follows
texmfstart texexec --pdfarrange --environments=arrange --
result=output.pdf input-scaled.pdf
I hope this helps
Willi
On Jan 18, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I would like to use the imposition capabilities from ConTeXt to be
> able
> to print a PDF book in a standard laser printer. To save paper, I
> use the 2UP arranging option thanks to this code from the wiki:
>
> \definepapersize [filius][width=135.9mm, height=231.8mm]
> \setuppapersize [filius][A4,landscape]
> \setuparranging [2UP,doublesided]
> \setuplayout [backspace=0pt,
> topspace=0pt,
> width=middle,
> height=middle,
> location=middle,
> header=0pt,
> footer=0pt,
> grid=no, marking=off]
> \starttext
> \filterpages[ZittrainTheFutureoftheInternet.pdf][4:351][height=21cm]
> \stoptext
>
> The PDF file can be downloaded from
> http://futureoftheinternet.org/static/
> ZittrainTheFutureoftheInternet.pdf.
>
> The issue here is that I get a resulting paper size with the filius
> height and not with 21cm from A4.
>
> I have tried have the output in a standard A4 paper size, but all
> that I got is a scaled down PDF. I would like to avoid scaling the
> document if that were possible.
>
> Is there any way, given the example above, to impose the filius
> paper size on a real landscape A4 without having to scale down the
> PDF document?
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
>
> Pablo
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
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* Re: issue with imposition
2009-01-18 20:38 ` Willi Egger
@ 2009-01-18 21:51 ` Pablo Rodríguez
2009-01-19 9:03 ` Pablo Rodríguez
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From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2009-01-18 21:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Willi Egger wrote:
> Hi Pablo,
>
> The problem is that the filius-page is higher than the width of an A4.
> So there is no way other than to scale the original pages down to a
> height of 210mm. For this action you can use something like
Thanks for your fast reply. I thought it was possible to set center the
imposed pages, both vertically and horizontally, to define a
> The following code in a tex-file.
>
> \definepapersize[Mypaper][height=210mm,width=123mm]
> \setuppapersize
> [Mypaper][Mypaper]
> \setuplayout
> [page]
> \starttext
> \copypages
> [input.pdf]
> [scale=905,
> offset=0pt]
> \stoptext
>
> The resulting pdf-file should then be arranged. However I would suggest
> not to use 2UP. Arranging the whole file (351 pages) with 2UP results
> in a rather thick single booklet of 88 A4-sheets. What you can try is to
> setup arranging as follows (untested). Put this code into an environment
> file e.g. arrange.tex
Thanks for the code bellow, but I'm not trying to make a booklet, but to
print the book to cut the paper in two pieces to bound it.
Thanks anyway,
Pablo
> \definepapersize[Mypaper][height=210mm,width=123mm]
> %\definepapersize [offset=15pt]
> \setuppapersize
> [Mypaper][A4,portrait]
> \setuplayout
> [backspace=0pt,
> topspace=0pt,
> width=middle,
> height=middle,
> %location=middle,
> header=0pt,
> footer=0pt]
>
> \setuppagenumbering[location=,alternative=doublesided]
> \setuparranging[2*2*4]
> \starttext
> \insertpages[input-scaled.pdf][width=0pt]
> \stoptext
>
> On the commandline call conTeXt as follows
>
> texmfstart texexec --pdfarrange --environments=arrange
> --result=output.pdf input-scaled.pdf
>
> I hope this helps
>
> Willi
>
> On Jan 18, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I would like to use the imposition capabilities from ConTeXt to be able
>> to print a PDF book in a standard laser printer. To save paper, I use
>> the 2UP arranging option thanks to this code from the wiki:
>>
>> \definepapersize [filius][width=135.9mm, height=231.8mm]
>> \setuppapersize [filius][A4,landscape]
>> \setuparranging [2UP,doublesided]
>> \setuplayout [backspace=0pt,
>> topspace=0pt,
>> width=middle,
>> height=middle,
>> location=middle,
>> header=0pt,
>> footer=0pt,
>> grid=no, marking=off]
>> \starttext
>> \filterpages[ZittrainTheFutureoftheInternet.pdf][4:351][height=21cm]
>> \stoptext
>>
>> The PDF file can be downloaded from
>> http://futureoftheinternet.org/static/ZittrainTheFutureoftheInternet.pdf.
>>
>> The issue here is that I get a resulting paper size with the filius
>> height and not with 21cm from A4.
>>
>> I have tried have the output in a standard A4 paper size, but all that
>> I got is a scaled down PDF. I would like to avoid scaling the document
>> if that were possible.
>>
>> Is there any way, given the example above, to impose the filius paper
>> size on a real landscape A4 without having to scale down the PDF
>> document?
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>>
>>
>> Pablo
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* Re: issue with imposition
2009-01-18 21:51 ` Pablo Rodríguez
@ 2009-01-19 9:03 ` Pablo Rodríguez
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From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2009-01-19 9:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
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Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
> Willi Egger wrote:
>> Hi Pablo,
>>
>> The problem is that the filius-page is higher than the width of an A4.
>> So there is no way other than to scale the original pages down to a
>> height of 210mm. For this action you can use something like
>
> Thanks for your fast reply. I thought it was possible to set center the
> imposed pages, both vertically and horizontally, to define a
Sorry, Willi, I sent the reply before it was finished :-(.
What I thought possible was to center the imposed pages both vertically
and horizontally to define smaller paper dimension where some content
beyond the page boundaries (which actually would be empty because of the
page margins).
In the attached image, it is shown what I intend in the upper figure and
what I get in the lower figure.
Thanks for your help,
Pablo
>> The following code in a tex-file.
>>
>> \definepapersize[Mypaper][height=210mm,width=123mm]
>> \setuppapersize
>> [Mypaper][Mypaper]
>> \setuplayout
>> [page]
>> \starttext
>> \copypages
>> [input.pdf]
>> [scale=905,
>> offset=0pt]
>> \stoptext
>>
>> The resulting pdf-file should then be arranged. However I would
>> suggest not to use 2UP. Arranging the whole file (351 pages) with 2UP
>> results in a rather thick single booklet of 88 A4-sheets. What you can
>> try is to setup arranging as follows (untested). Put this code into an
>> environment file e.g. arrange.tex
>
> Thanks for the code bellow, but I'm not trying to make a booklet, but to
> print the book to cut the paper in two pieces to bound it.
>
> Thanks anyway,
>
>
> Pablo
>
>
>> \definepapersize[Mypaper][height=210mm,width=123mm]
>> %\definepapersize [offset=15pt] \setuppapersize
>> [Mypaper][A4,portrait]
>> \setuplayout
>> [backspace=0pt,
>> topspace=0pt,
>> width=middle,
>> height=middle,
>> %location=middle,
>> header=0pt,
>> footer=0pt]
>> \setuppagenumbering[location=,alternative=doublesided]
>> \setuparranging[2*2*4]
>> \starttext
>> \insertpages[input-scaled.pdf][width=0pt]
>> \stoptext
>>
>> On the commandline call conTeXt as follows
>>
>> texmfstart texexec --pdfarrange --environments=arrange
>> --result=output.pdf input-scaled.pdf
>>
>> I hope this helps
>>
>> Willi
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I would like to use the imposition capabilities from ConTeXt to be able
>>> to print a PDF book in a standard laser printer. To save paper, I use
>>> the 2UP arranging option thanks to this code from the wiki:
>>>
>>> \definepapersize [filius][width=135.9mm, height=231.8mm]
>>> \setuppapersize [filius][A4,landscape]
>>> \setuparranging [2UP,doublesided]
>>> \setuplayout [backspace=0pt,
>>> topspace=0pt,
>>> width=middle,
>>> height=middle,
>>> location=middle,
>>> header=0pt,
>>> footer=0pt,
>>> grid=no, marking=off]
>>> \starttext
>>> \filterpages[ZittrainTheFutureoftheInternet.pdf][4:351][height=21cm]
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> The PDF file can be downloaded from
>>> http://futureoftheinternet.org/static/ZittrainTheFutureoftheInternet.pdf.
>>>
>>>
>>> The issue here is that I get a resulting paper size with the filius
>>> height and not with 21cm from A4.
>>>
>>> I have tried have the output in a standard A4 paper size, but all
>>> that I got is a scaled down PDF. I would like to avoid scaling the
>>> document if that were possible.
>>>
>>> Is there any way, given the example above, to impose the filius paper
>>> size on a real landscape A4 without having to scale down the PDF
>>> document?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>
>>>
>>> Pablo
>
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>
>
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* Re: issue with imposition
2009-01-18 19:05 issue with imposition Pablo Rodríguez
2009-01-18 20:38 ` Willi Egger
@ 2009-01-19 22:29 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2009-01-19 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Am 2009-01-18 um 20:05 schrieb Pablo Rodríguez:
> I would like to use the imposition capabilities from ConTeXt to be
> able
> to print a PDF book in a standard laser printer. To save paper, I
> use the 2UP arranging option thanks to this code from the wiki:
>
> \definepapersize [filius][width=135.9mm, height=231.8mm]
Please refrain from using the page size name "filius" for other sizes
than 92x172mm, it's confusing for everyone who knows "filius" planners!
Willi told you everything else - and apparently you missed to describe
your actual problem, that's more a matter of clipping than of
imposition.
Sorry, can't help you with that. Perhaps you can utilize a tool like
pdftrim?
Or define your paper height as max. 210mm at all - if you need it in
trimmed & imposed form as well as as single pages, consider modes with
different layouts.
If you try to impose a non-ConTeXt PDF, I'd look after placement
options of \filterpages.
Greetlings from Lake Constance!
Hraban
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