From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/47270 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mari Voipio Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Russian/Cyrillic - UTF-8 stuff Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:21:53 +0200 Message-ID: <498AD9E1.80300@iki.fi> References: <49898F36.7060905@iki.fi> <4989B1D6.80401@iki.fi> <6faad9f00902041140u6203dcaayee885c93222a2555@mail.gmail.com> <498AC0AD.2060200@iki.fi> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233836755 26467 80.91.229.12 (5 Feb 2009 12:25:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:25:55 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Feb 05 13:27:08 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LV3Jz-0003b2-PU for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:27:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B8E1FBC9; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:25:46 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26098-02; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:24:32 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8561FB8F; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:24:31 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954EE1FB8F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:24:29 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21939-02-4 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:23:50 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (filter3-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.71]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919C41FB7E for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:23:50 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from kpatents.net (mail.kpatents.com [195.170.128.67]) by filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n15CNnr5016221 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:23:50 +0100 Original-Received: from [192.168.100.147] (helo=kpatents.com) by kpatents.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LV3Gn-0001Cm-1i for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:23:49 +0200 Original-Received: from [192.168.100.169] ([192.168.100.169]) by kpatents.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:21:54 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) In-Reply-To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Feb 2009 12:21:54.0078 (UTC) FILETIME=[5491C3E0:01C9878C] X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=195.170.128.67; country=FI; region=13; city=Espoo; latitude=60.2167; longitude=24.6667; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=60.2167,24.6667&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 175486716 - ce7a29deee11 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.71 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:47270 Archived-At: luigi scarso wrote: > Maybe you can consider (under linux,I dont'know about windows) > recode > iconv > > sometimes they are useful . I have Cygwin installed to give me some command line tools and we already figured out iconv is probably a useful tool. Recode, on the other hand, doesn't seem to exist ("man recode" give 'No manual entry for recode' while 'man iconv' is very informative). One of my problems is that sometimes the files go out for editing to people who are only used to Windows. However, it turns out that even Word 2000 reads and saves UTF, if the open/save format is set to 'encoded text' and utf-8 is selected from the encoding type list. I just don't terribly fancy doing this for 5 x 15 files or something like that, so iconv is definitely high on the list of tools I'm going to try out. Thank you, everybody, for your help - now I know a lot better what to do and I even think my Russian contact will manage to install a working system on his XP. I'll wikify the stuff somehow once I'm sure I remember all the steps correctly (probably I'll just hog yet another XP for installation test...). Mari ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________