From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/47635 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Making necessary OpenType features on by default Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:28:23 +0100 Message-ID: <49A29667.4090002@wxs.nl> References: <20090220183922.GA10583@khaled-laptop> <499EFD12.1080808@wxs.nl> <32A3D493-4371-459B-A2DA-3B98494BD641@gmail.com> <20090222210356.GB16381@khaled-laptop> <49A2802A.3030704@wxs.nl> <20090223120906.GB7439@khaled-laptop> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1235392220 30472 80.91.229.12 (23 Feb 2009 12:30:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:30:20 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Feb 23 13:31:35 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LbZy8-0002ih-LX for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:31:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631291FBD4; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:30:10 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19827-06; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:29:07 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241FE1FBAC; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:29:07 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A801FB7F for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:29:04 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21439-02-2 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:28:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter1-nij.mf.surf.net (filter1-nij.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.152]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B011FBEF for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:28:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by filter1-nij.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1NCSNEw024213 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:28:23 +0100 Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.9e) with ESMTP id 13602-1840426 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:28:23 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) In-Reply-To: X-Originating-IP: 10.100.1.100 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=83.247.100.17; country=NL; region=16; city=Dronten; latitude=52.5333; longitude=5.7167; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5333,5.7167&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 183890320 - fbb334d653ba X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.152 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:47635 Archived-At: Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > > On Feb 23, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote: > >> For scaling, we can specify a size, some thing like: >> >> \setupbodyfont[arabic=foo,20pt,latin=bar,18pt] >> >> or so. > > I don't know Arabic, but I've done similar things for Greek, and that is > not a good interface. You want a scaling factor, so users won't have to > worry about scaling in footnotes, titles, etc., an absolute size is not > a viable alternative. indeed. btw, i have no problem with a bunch of predefined combinations (using the fallbacks mechanism) so that users can quickly initialize a typeface \usetypescript[fancyarabicwithgreekandtraditionallatin] \setupbodyfont[fancyarabicwithgreekandtraditionallatin,13pt] or so, collected in some type-* file, but that's as far as we can go; we need to guard at least some minimal quality a quick start but with bad output is not the way to go Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________