beta release

beta release

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

As prelude to LuaTeX 0.40 there is now a beta 0.35. I uploaded a context 
beta that matches this version. The most important move is that we now 
have a new math subsystem. (Specially for Mojca: iwona seems to work 
ok). Apart from bringin unicode math this also gives a better 
performance. (Some info about what is involved can be found in mk.pdf on 
the website).

There might be ommisions so when you run into one, just let us know.

Hans

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mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

[Alan BRASLAU]

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There appears to be a bug in mkiv with greek letters (and other math symbols?) within ppchtex. I am using the latest conTeXt minimals:
(This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.35.0
ConTeXt  ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKIV  fmt: 2009.2.24  int: english/english)


(Almost) minimal example (and attached pdf results).

\enableregime[utf]
\usemodule[chemic]

\starttext
\startTEXpage
	\startchemical[width=fit,height=fit]
		\chemical[ONE,Z0,MOV1,SB5,Z0][C_{\alpha},C_α]
	\stopchemical
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext

(Under mkiv, the \alpha becomes an ff ligature)

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Re: mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

[Hans Hagen]

Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> There appears to be a bug in mkiv with greek letters (and other math symbols?) within ppchtex. I am using the latest conTeXt minimals:
> (This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.35.0
> ConTeXt  ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKIV  fmt: 2009.2.24  int: english/english) 
                 ^^^^^^^^^^

way to old

get the zip from the website,

unzip in texmf-context
luatools --generate
luatools --selfmerge
mtxrun --selfmerge
context --make



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Re: mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

[Alan BRASLAU]

Thanks for the very rapid reply.


On Tuesday 24 February 2009 18:23:48 Hans Hagen wrote:
> > ConTeXt  ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKIV  fmt: 2009.2.24  int: english/english) 
>                  ^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> way too old

So things move fast!

> get the zip from the website,

I'm not sure which zip you mean?

So I changed --context=beta to -context=alpha in first-setup.sh and now I have
ConTeXt  ver: 2009.02.24 16:36 MKIV  fmt: 2009.2.24  int: english/english
and this gives me errors:

...
ppchtex        : number 0 is skipped
! Font \nullfont has only 7 fontdimen parameters.
<to be read again> 
                   \relax 
\dosetsubscript ... #1\string #2}{\the #1#2\relax 
                                                  }#1#2=\dimen 0\relax 
\dodosetsubscript ...bscript {#1}{\textfont 2}{#2}
                                                  \dosetsubscript {#1}{\scri...
\setsubscripts ...setsubscript \mathsubnormal {.7}
                                                  \dodosetsubscript \mathsub...
\putchemicaltext ...icalframe {}}\dosetsubscripts 
                                                  \setbox 2=\hbox {$\@@doche...
<argument> ...caloffset {0}\putchemicaltext {0}{0}
                                                  \undochemicaloffset 
...
l.9 	\stopchemical
                  
? 
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Re: beta release

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 24.02.2009 um 17:09 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> As prelude to LuaTeX 0.40 there is now a beta 0.35. I uploaded a  
> context beta that matches this version. The most important move is  
> that we now have a new math subsystem. (Specially for Mojca: iwona  
> seems to work ok). Apart from bringin unicode math this also gives a  
> better performance. (Some info about what is involved can be found  
> in mk.pdf on the website).
>
> There might be ommisions so when you run into one, just let us know.

Has the beta also some fixes for the experimental interface,
normal MkIV produce no index which I get with experimental
but I won't use it either because of a few other bugs.

Wolfgang

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Re: mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

[Hans Hagen]

Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> There appears to be a bug in mkiv with greek letters (and other math symbols?) within ppchtex. I am using the latest conTeXt minimals:
> (This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.35.0
> ConTeXt  ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKIV  fmt: 2009.2.24  int: english/english)
> 
> 
> (Almost) minimal example (and attached pdf results).
> 
> \enableregime[utf]

mkiv is utf by default -)




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Re: mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

[Hans Hagen]

Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> There appears to be a bug in mkiv with greek letters (and other math symbols?) within ppchtex. I am using the latest conTeXt minimals:
> (This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.35.0
> ConTeXt  ver: 2009.01.18 14:39 MKIV  fmt: 2009.2.24  int: english/english)
> 
> 
> (Almost) minimal example (and attached pdf results).

> \enableregime[utf]
> \usemodule[chemic]
> 
> \starttext
> \startTEXpage
> 	\startchemical[width=fit,height=fit]
> 		\chemical[ONE,Z0,MOV1,SB5,Z0][C_{\alpha},C_α]
> 	\stopchemical
> \stopTEXpage
> \stoptext
> 
> (Under mkiv, the \alpha becomes an ff ligature)

- the ff is because you use an old version
- the nullfont message is because we have only one fam now, this fixes 
it (i've added it to ppchtex)

\ifx\Umathchar\undefined \else
     % for the moment we nil them, soon we will have a proper
     % way to deal with this
     \let\setsubscripts  \relax
     \let\resetsubscripts\relax
\fi

the \alpha shows up, the α not (not sure why)

Hans


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Re: mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

[Hans Hagen]

Hans Hagen wrote:

> the \alpha shows up, the α not (not sure why)

you need the mathematical alpha

\startTEXpage
	\startchemical[width=fit,height=fit]
		\chemical[ONE,Z0,MOV1,SB5,Z0][C_{\alpha},C_{\utfchar{"1D6FC}}]
	\stopchemical
\stopTEXpage



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Re: mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

[Alan BRASLAU]

I confirm that this now works using the current --context=alpha

> > \enableregime[utf]
>
> mkiv is utf by default -)

(But is still necessary to remain compatible with mkii)


> > the \alpha shows up, the α not (not sure why)
> 
> you need the mathematical alpha
> 
> \startTEXpage
> 	\startchemical[width=fit,height=fit]
> 		\chemical[ONE,Z0,MOV1,SB5,Z0][C_{\alpha},C_{\utfchar{"1D6FC}}]
> 	\stopchemical
> \stopTEXpage

OK, I see that TeX input is to be retained...

However, note that $K_α$ works, so there must be some confusion in interpreting unicode characters in the macros.
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Re: mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

[Hans Hagen]

Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> I confirm that this now works using the current --context=alpha
> 
>>> \enableregime[utf]
>> mkiv is utf by default -)
> 
> (But is still necessary to remain compatible with mkii)
> 
> 
>>> the \alpha shows up, the α not (not sure why)
>> you need the mathematical alpha
>>
>> \startTEXpage
>> 	\startchemical[width=fit,height=fit]
>> 		\chemical[ONE,Z0,MOV1,SB5,Z0][C_{\alpha},C_{\utfchar{"1D6FC}}]
>> 	\stopchemical
>> \stopTEXpage
> 
> OK, I see that TeX input is to be retained...
> 
> However, note that $K_α$ works, so there must be some confusion in interpreting unicode characters in the macros.

ppchtex uses an upright and there is no alpha in the base lm font

if you use

\usetypescript[cambria]\setupbodyfont[cambria]

you will get the right alpha

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Re: mkiv ppchtex greek character bug

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 09:23, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Alan BRASLAU wrote:
>>
>> I confirm that this now works using the current --context=alpha
>>
>>>> \enableregime[utf]
>>>
>>> mkiv is utf by default -)
>>
>> (But is still necessary to remain compatible with mkii)
>>
>>
>>>> the \alpha shows up, the α not (not sure why)
>>>
>>> you need the mathematical alpha
>>>
>>> \startTEXpage
>>>        \startchemical[width=fit,height=fit]
>>>
>>>  \chemical[ONE,Z0,MOV1,SB5,Z0][C_{\alpha},C_{\utfchar{"1D6FC}}]
>>>        \stopchemical
>>> \stopTEXpage
>>
>> OK, I see that TeX input is to be retained...
>>
>> However, note that $K_α$ works, so there must be some confusion in
>> interpreting unicode characters in the macros.
>
> ppchtex uses an upright and there is no alpha in the base lm font
>
> if you use
>
> \usetypescript[cambria]\setupbodyfont[cambria]
>
> you will get the right alpha

Hans,

maybe italic (mathematical) alpha should be a fallback for normal alpha in LM.

Personally, I have always been satisfied with italic alpha for
labeling C atoms or alpha chains of proteins. So it should also be OK
(not to say preferrable) to use "mathematical greek" inside chemistry
formulae.

Mojca
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Re: beta release

[Yue Wang]

Hi, Hans:

Are HZ features still working? I test the beta with one of my
documents, and it gives very bad line break:(

Yue Wang

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As prelude to LuaTeX 0.40 there is now a beta 0.35. I uploaded a context
> beta that matches this version. The most important move is that we now have
> a new math subsystem. (Specially for Mojca: iwona seems to work ok). Apart
> from bringin unicode math this also gives a better performance. (Some info
> about what is involved can be found in mk.pdf on the website).
>
> There might be ommisions so when you run into one, just let us know.
>
> Hans
>
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Re: beta release

[Yue Wang]

Oh, Hans, another bug report, pls test this (come from my thesis):

\usetypescript[palatino]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,rm]
\starttext

\placeformula\startformula
P_{(i,j)}=\sum_{n=1}^{n_s} P_{{\rm straight},n} \sum_{n=1}^{n_b}
P_{{\rm bend},n}
\stopformula

\placeformula\startformula
{{\rm d} {\bf y}\over {\rm d} t} = f(t,{\bf y}) \quad {\bf y}(0)={\bf k}
\stopformula
\stoptext


On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Yue Wang <yuleopen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Hans:
>
> Are HZ features still working? I test the beta with one of my
> documents, and it gives very bad line break:(
>
> Yue Wang
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As prelude to LuaTeX 0.40 there is now a beta 0.35. I uploaded a context
>> beta that matches this version. The most important move is that we now have
>> a new math subsystem. (Specially for Mojca: iwona seems to work ok). Apart
>> from bringin unicode math this also gives a better performance. (Some info
>> about what is involved can be found in mk.pdf on the website).
>>
>> There might be ommisions so when you run into one, just let us know.
>>
>> Hans
>>
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Re: beta release

[Yanrui Li]

2009/2/25 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> Hi,
>
> As prelude to LuaTeX 0.40 there is now a beta 0.35. I uploaded a context
> beta that matches this version. The most important move is that we now have
> a new math subsystem. (Specially for Mojca: iwona seems to work ok). Apart
> from bringin unicode math this also gives a better performance. (Some info
> about what is involved can be found in mk.pdf on the website).
>
> There might be ommisions so when you run into one, just let us know.
>

Hi,

Maybe there are some bugs in scrp-ini.lua and scrp-cjk.lua as follows:

1. In scrp-ini.lua, some flags of punctuations in the definition of
"hash" are replaced by
"chinese" flags, for example:

local hash = {
    ... ...
    [0xFF0C] = "full_width_close", -- ，
    ... ...
}
... ...
for i=0x0FF00,0x0FFEF do hash[i] = "chinese" end
... ...

2. In scrp-cjk.lua, it seems that "insert_node_before" in some break &
shrink & stretch functions
should be "insert_node_after", for example:

local function nobreak_stretch(head,current)
    insert_node_before(head,current,make_penalty_node(10000))
    insert_node_before(head,current,make_glue_node(0,inter_char_stretch,0))
end

In addition, I found Chinese punctuations compression in this beta.
Will these features be provided in future beta?

-- 
Best wishes,
Li Yanrui

* Gentoo Linux (~x86)
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* ConTeXt Minimals (2009.02.25 14:43)
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Re: beta release

[Hans Hagen]

Yue Wang wrote:
> Hi, Hans:
> 
> Are HZ features still working? I test the beta with one of my
> documents, and it gives very bad line break:(

it should work ok ... what testfile do you use?

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Re: beta release

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 01.03.2009 um 18:19 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> Yue Wang wrote:
>> Hi, Hans:
>> Are HZ features still working? I test the beta with one of my
>> documents, and it gives very bad line break:(
>
> it should work ok ... what testfile do you use?

He's is right, here is a example.

\definefontfeature[default][default] 
[script=latn,mode=node,expansion=quality,protrusion=quality]

\usetypescript[palatino]
\setupbodyfont[palatino]

\mainlanguage[de]

\starttext

Ein König von Baßrah besaß große Reichtümer. Seine Untertanen liebten  
ihn,
aber er hatte keine Kinder, und das betrübte ihn über die Maßen. Indes
veranlaßte er alle heiligen Männer in seinen Staaten durch namhafte  
Geschenke,
den Himmel für ihn um einen Sohn zu bitten, und ihre Gebete waren nicht
erfolglos: die Königin wurde schwanger und genas glücklich eines  
Sohnes. welcher
den Namen Zeyn Alasnam, d\,h~Zierde der Bildsäulen, erhielt.

Der König ließ alle Sterndeuter seines Reiches zusammenrufen und befahl
ihnen, dem Kind das Horoskop zu stellen. Sie entdeckten durch ihre
Beobachtungen, daß er lange leben und viel Mut besitzen würde, daß er  
dieses
Mutes aber auch bedürfe, um das vielfache Unglück, das ihn bedrohe,  
mannhaft zu
ertragen. Der König erschrak nicht über diese Weissagung, »Wenn mein  
Sohn Mut
hat«, sagte er, »so ist er nicht zu beklagen. Es ist gut, wenn die  
Prinzen
manchmal in ein Unglück kommen; Widerwärtigkeiten läutern ihre Tugend,  
sie
lernen dadurch nur um so besser regieren.«

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: beta release

[Hans Hagen]

Yue Wang wrote:
> Oh, Hans, another bug report, pls test this (come from my thesis):
> 
> \usetypescript[palatino]
> \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm]
> \starttext
> 
> \placeformula\startformula
> P_{(i,j)}=\sum_{n=1}^{n_s} P_{{\rm straight},n} \sum_{n=1}^{n_b}
> P_{{\rm bend},n}
> \stopformula
> 
> \placeformula\startformula
> {{\rm d} {\bf y}\over {\rm d} t} = f(t,{\bf y}) \quad {\bf y}(0)={\bf k}
> \stopformula
> \stoptext

i have no clue what you expect .. the bold y? if so ... we need to add 
the bold definition to the vf spec

mathematics.make_font ( "px-math", {
     { name = "texgyrepagella-regular", features = "virtualmath", main = 
true },
     { name = "pxr", vector = "traditional-mr" } ,
     { name = "pxmi", vector = "traditional-mi", skewchar=0x7F },
     { name = "pxsy", vector = "traditional-sy", skewchar=0x30, 
parameters = true } ,
     { name = "pxex", vector = "traditional-ex", extension = true } ,
     { name = "pxsya", vector = "traditional-ma" },
     { name = "pxsyb", vector = "traditional-mb" },
} )

(feel free to figure out what font -)



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Re: beta release

[Hans Hagen]

Yanrui Li wrote:
> 2009/2/25 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As prelude to LuaTeX 0.40 there is now a beta 0.35. I uploaded a context
>> beta that matches this version. The most important move is that we now have
>> a new math subsystem. (Specially for Mojca: iwona seems to work ok). Apart
>> from bringin unicode math this also gives a better performance. (Some info
>> about what is involved can be found in mk.pdf on the website).
>>
>> There might be ommisions so when you run into one, just let us know.
>>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Maybe there are some bugs in scrp-ini.lua and scrp-cjk.lua as follows:
> 
> 1. In scrp-ini.lua, some flags of punctuations in the definition of
> "hash" are replaced by
> "chinese" flags, for example:
> 
> local hash = {
>     ... ...
>     [0xFF0C] = "full_width_close", -- ，
>     ... ...
> }
> ... ...
> for i=0x0FF00,0x0FFEF do hash[i] = "chinese" end
> ... ...
> 
> 2. In scrp-cjk.lua, it seems that "insert_node_before" in some break &
> shrink & stretch functions
> should be "insert_node_after", for example:
> 
> local function nobreak_stretch(head,current)
>     insert_node_before(head,current,make_penalty_node(10000))
>     insert_node_before(head,current,make_glue_node(0,inter_char_stretch,0))
> end

we only insert nodes before, so in that case you need to look at another 
combination; so, like

<class_a> [insert] <class_b>

is triggered only once, by the table entry

[class a] = { class_b = ... }

> In addition, I found Chinese punctuations compression in this beta.
> Will these features be provided in future beta?

maybe, once we have decided on a proper reference font



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Re: beta release

[Otared Kavian]

On 1 mars 09, at 19:53, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Yue Wang wrote:
>> Oh, Hans, another bug report, pls test this (come from my thesis):
>> \usetypescript[palatino]
>> \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm]
>> \starttext
>> \placeformula\startformula
>> P_{(i,j)}=\sum_{n=1}^{n_s} P_{{\rm straight},n} \sum_{n=1}^{n_b}
>> P_{{\rm bend},n}
>> \stopformula
>> \placeformula\startformula
>> {{\rm d} {\bf y}\over {\rm d} t} = f(t,{\bf y}) \quad {\bf y} 
>> (0)={\bf k}
>> \stopformula
>> \stoptext
>
> i have no clue what you expect .. the bold y? if so ... we need to  
> add the bold definition to the vf spec
>

Hi Hans,

I guess what Yue Wang wants to say is that in mkiv the summation sign  
\sum has a small size, analogous to the in-line math $\sum$, while in  
mkii the ersult is as expected.

Best regards: OK

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Re: beta release

[Hans Hagen]

Otared Kavian wrote:
> 
> On 1 mars 09, at 19:53, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
>> Yue Wang wrote:
>>> Oh, Hans, another bug report, pls test this (come from my thesis):
>>> \usetypescript[palatino]
>>> \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm]
>>> \starttext
>>> \placeformula\startformula
>>> P_{(i,j)}=\sum_{n=1}^{n_s} P_{{\rm straight},n} \sum_{n=1}^{n_b}
>>> P_{{\rm bend},n}
>>> \stopformula
>>> \placeformula\startformula
>>> {{\rm d} {\bf y}\over {\rm d} t} = f(t,{\bf y}) \quad {\bf y}(0)={\bf k}
>>> \stopformula
>>> \stoptext
>>
>> i have no clue what you expect .. the bold y? if so ... we need to add 
>> the bold definition to the vf spec
>>
> 
> Hi Hans,
> 
> I guess what Yue Wang wants to say is that in mkiv the summation sign 
> \sum has a small size, analogous to the in-line math $\sum$, while in 
> mkii the ersult is as expected.

ok, thanks

Hans


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Re: beta release

[Yanrui Li]

2009/3/2 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> Yanrui Li wrote:
>>
>> 2009/2/25 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As prelude to LuaTeX 0.40 there is now a beta 0.35. I uploaded a context
>>> beta that matches this version. The most important move is that we now
>>> have
>>> a new math subsystem. (Specially for Mojca: iwona seems to work ok).
>>> Apart
>>> from bringin unicode math this also gives a better performance. (Some
>>> info
>>> about what is involved can be found in mk.pdf on the website).
>>>
>>> There might be ommisions so when you run into one, just let us know.
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Maybe there are some bugs in scrp-ini.lua and scrp-cjk.lua as follows:
>>
>> 1. In scrp-ini.lua, some flags of punctuations in the definition of
>> "hash" are replaced by
>> "chinese" flags, for example:
>>
>> local hash = {
>>    ... ...
>>    [0xFF0C] = "full_width_close", -- ，
>>    ... ...
>> }
>> ... ...
>> for i=0x0FF00,0x0FFEF do hash[i] = "chinese" end
>> ... ...
>>
>> 2. In scrp-cjk.lua, it seems that "insert_node_before" in some break &
>> shrink & stretch functions
>> should be "insert_node_after", for example:
>>
>> local function nobreak_stretch(head,current)
>>    insert_node_before(head,current,make_penalty_node(10000))
>>    insert_node_before(head,current,make_glue_node(0,inter_char_stretch,0))
>> end
>
> we only insert nodes before, so in that case you need to look at another
> combination; so, like
>
> <class_a> [insert] <class_b>
>
> is triggered only once, by the table entry
>
> [class a] = { class_b = ... }
>

Thanks for your explanation,  I see.

There are some Chinese punctuations,
such as “，" (fullwidth comma), "！" (fullwidth exclamation mark) and so on,
which are considered to be "chinese" but not "full_width_close" by
scrp-cjk.lua.
Is this deliberately doing?

-- 
Best wishes,
Li Yanrui

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Re: beta release

[Yue Wang]

yep. thx.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Yue Wang wrote:
>>
>> Oh, Hans, another bug report, pls test this (come from my thesis):
>>
>> \usetypescript[palatino]
>> \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm]
>> \starttext
>>
>> \placeformula\startformula
>> P_{(i,j)}=\sum_{n=1}^{n_s} P_{{\rm straight},n} \sum_{n=1}^{n_b}
>> P_{{\rm bend},n}
>> \stopformula
>>
>> \placeformula\startformula
>> {{\rm d} {\bf y}\over {\rm d} t} = f(t,{\bf y}) \quad {\bf y}(0)={\bf k}
>> \stopformula
>> \stoptext
>
> i have no clue what you expect .. the bold y? if so ... we need to add the
> bold definition to the vf spec
>
> mathematics.make_font ( "px-math", {
>    { name = "texgyrepagella-regular", features = "virtualmath", main = true
> },
>    { name = "pxr", vector = "traditional-mr" } ,
>    { name = "pxmi", vector = "traditional-mi", skewchar=0x7F },
>    { name = "pxsy", vector = "traditional-sy", skewchar=0x30, parameters =
> true } ,
>    { name = "pxex", vector = "traditional-ex", extension = true } ,
>    { name = "pxsya", vector = "traditional-ma" },
>    { name = "pxsyb", vector = "traditional-mb" },
> } )
>
> (feel free to figure out what font -)
>
>
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Re: beta release

[Yue Wang]

yes, that's what the second equation points out.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 1 mars 09, at 19:53, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> Yue Wang wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh, Hans, another bug report, pls test this (come from my thesis):
>>> \usetypescript[palatino]
>>> \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm]
>>> \starttext
>>> \placeformula\startformula
>>> P_{(i,j)}=\sum_{n=1}^{n_s} P_{{\rm straight},n} \sum_{n=1}^{n_b}
>>> P_{{\rm bend},n}
>>> \stopformula
>>> \placeformula\startformula
>>> {{\rm d} {\bf y}\over {\rm d} t} = f(t,{\bf y}) \quad {\bf y}(0)={\bf k}
>>> \stopformula
>>> \stoptext
>>
>> i have no clue what you expect .. the bold y? if so ... we need to add the
>> bold definition to the vf spec
>>
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> I guess what Yue Wang wants to say is that in mkiv the summation sign \sum
> has a small size, analogous to the in-line math $\sum$, while in mkii the
> ersult is as expected.
>
> Best regards: OK
>
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Re: beta release

[Yue Wang]

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Yue Wang <yuleopen@gmail.com> wrote:
> yes, that's what the second equation points out.
>
s/second/first

> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 1 mars 09, at 19:53, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> Yue Wang wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh, Hans, another bug report, pls test this (come from my thesis):
>>>> \usetypescript[palatino]
>>>> \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm]
>>>> \starttext
>>>> \placeformula\startformula
>>>> P_{(i,j)}=\sum_{n=1}^{n_s} P_{{\rm straight},n} \sum_{n=1}^{n_b}
>>>> P_{{\rm bend},n}
>>>> \stopformula
>>>> \placeformula\startformula
>>>> {{\rm d} {\bf y}\over {\rm d} t} = f(t,{\bf y}) \quad {\bf y}(0)={\bf k}
>>>> \stopformula
>>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> i have no clue what you expect .. the bold y? if so ... we need to add the
>>> bold definition to the vf spec
>>>
>>
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> I guess what Yue Wang wants to say is that in mkiv the summation sign \sum
>> has a small size, analogous to the in-line math $\sum$, while in mkii the
>> ersult is as expected.
>>
>> Best regards: OK
>>
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Re: beta release

[Hans Hagen]

Yanrui Li wrote:
> 2009/3/2 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
>> Yanrui Li wrote:
>>> 2009/2/25 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As prelude to LuaTeX 0.40 there is now a beta 0.35. I uploaded a context
>>>> beta that matches this version. The most important move is that we now
>>>> have
>>>> a new math subsystem. (Specially for Mojca: iwona seems to work ok).
>>>> Apart
>>>> from bringin unicode math this also gives a better performance. (Some
>>>> info
>>>> about what is involved can be found in mk.pdf on the website).
>>>>
>>>> There might be ommisions so when you run into one, just let us know.
>>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Maybe there are some bugs in scrp-ini.lua and scrp-cjk.lua as follows:
>>>
>>> 1. In scrp-ini.lua, some flags of punctuations in the definition of
>>> "hash" are replaced by
>>> "chinese" flags, for example:
>>>
>>> local hash = {
>>>    ... ...
>>>    [0xFF0C] = "full_width_close", -- ，
>>>    ... ...
>>> }
>>> ... ...
>>> for i=0x0FF00,0x0FFEF do hash[i] = "chinese" end
>>> ... ...
>>>
>>> 2. In scrp-cjk.lua, it seems that "insert_node_before" in some break &
>>> shrink & stretch functions
>>> should be "insert_node_after", for example:
>>>
>>> local function nobreak_stretch(head,current)
>>>    insert_node_before(head,current,make_penalty_node(10000))
>>>    insert_node_before(head,current,make_glue_node(0,inter_char_stretch,0))
>>> end
>> we only insert nodes before, so in that case you need to look at another
>> combination; so, like
>>
>> <class_a> [insert] <class_b>
>>
>> is triggered only once, by the table entry
>>
>> [class a] = { class_b = ... }
>>
> 
> Thanks for your explanation,  I see.
> 
> There are some Chinese punctuations,
> such as “，" (fullwidth comma), "！" (fullwidth exclamation mark) and so on,
> which are considered to be "chinese" but not "full_width_close" by
> scrp-cjk.lua.
> Is this deliberately doing?

we have different vectors for chinese and korean and each of them can be 
optimized, of there can be several for each script

keep in mind that when korean uses chinese, it does not use the chinese 
rules

Hans

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Re: beta release

[Dohyun Kim]

2009/3/2 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> Yanrui Li wrote:
>>
>> There are some Chinese punctuations,
>> such as “，" (fullwidth comma), "！" (fullwidth exclamation mark) and so on,
>> which are considered to be "chinese" but not "full_width_close" by
>> scrp-cjk.lua.
>> Is this deliberately doing?
>
> we have different vectors for chinese and korean and each of them can be
> optimized, of there can be several for each script
>
> keep in mind that when korean uses chinese, it does not use the chinese
> rules
>

Those Chinese punctuations we Koreans seldom use.
Nor we normally use characters from U+FF00 .. U+FFFF area.
So it's OK to delete this line in scip-ini.lua :

    for i=0x0FF00,0x0FFEF do hash[i] = "chinese" end

as requested by Chinese people.

Or it would be better if the order is reversed, that is to say,
if the line mentioned above and other adjacent lines comes before
the hash table of individual characters.

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Re: beta release

[Hans Hagen]

Dohyun Kim wrote:
> 2009/3/2 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
>> Yanrui Li wrote:
>>> There are some Chinese punctuations,
>>> such as “，" (fullwidth comma), "！" (fullwidth exclamation mark) and so on,
>>> which are considered to be "chinese" but not "full_width_close" by
>>> scrp-cjk.lua.
>>> Is this deliberately doing?
>> we have different vectors for chinese and korean and each of them can be
>> optimized, of there can be several for each script
>>
>> keep in mind that when korean uses chinese, it does not use the chinese
>> rules
>>
> 
> Those Chinese punctuations we Koreans seldom use.
> Nor we normally use characters from U+FF00 .. U+FFFF area.
> So it's OK to delete this line in scip-ini.lua :
> 
>     for i=0x0FF00,0x0FFEF do hash[i] = "chinese" end
> 
> as requested by Chinese people.
> 
> Or it would be better if the order is reversed, that is to say,
> if the line mentioned above and other adjacent lines comes before
> the hash table of individual characters.

then we'd need to do each assignment individually; so instead i now have

for i=0x0FF00,0x0FFEF do if not hash[i] then hash[i] = "chinese"
end end

i.e. a test before an assigment so that the first table takes precedence.

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Re: beta release

[Dohyun Kim]

2009년 3월 2일 (월) 오후 7:02, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>님의 말:
> Dohyun Kim wrote:
>> Or it would be better if the order is reversed, that is to say,
>> if the line mentioned above and other adjacent lines comes before
>> the hash table of individual characters.
>
> then we'd need to do each assignment individually; so instead i now have
>
> for i=0x0FF00,0x0FFEF do if not hash[i] then hash[i] = "chinese"
> end end
>
> i.e. a test before an assigment so that the first table takes precedence.
>

ok.
Then, why don't you do the same for other assignments to "chinese"?
because, for instance, "non-starters" too are currently overridden by "chinese".

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Re: beta release

[Hans Hagen]

Dohyun Kim wrote:
> 2009년 3월 2일 (월) 오후 7:02, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>님의 말:
>> Dohyun Kim wrote:
>>> Or it would be better if the order is reversed, that is to say,
>>> if the line mentioned above and other adjacent lines comes before
>>> the hash table of individual characters.
>> then we'd need to do each assignment individually; so instead i now have
>>
>> for i=0x0FF00,0x0FFEF do if not hash[i] then hash[i] = "chinese"
>> end end
>>
>> i.e. a test before an assigment so that the first table takes precedence.
>>
> 
> ok.
> Then, why don't you do the same for other assignments to "chinese"?
> because, for instance, "non-starters" too are currently overridden by "chinese".

i do it for all


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Re: beta release

[Yue Wang]

${\bf y}$ still gives me roman regular y.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Yue Wang wrote:
>>
>> Oh, Hans, another bug report, pls test this (come from my thesis):
>>
>> \usetypescript[palatino]
>> \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm]
>> \starttext
>>
>> \placeformula\startformula
>> P_{(i,j)}=\sum_{n=1}^{n_s} P_{{\rm straight},n} \sum_{n=1}^{n_b}
>> P_{{\rm bend},n}
>> \stopformula
>>
>> \placeformula\startformula
>> {{\rm d} {\bf y}\over {\rm d} t} = f(t,{\bf y}) \quad {\bf y}(0)={\bf k}
>> \stopformula
>> \stoptext
>
> i have no clue what you expect .. the bold y? if so ... we need to add the
> bold definition to the vf spec
>
> mathematics.make_font ( "px-math", {
>    { name = "texgyrepagella-regular", features = "virtualmath", main = true
> },
>    { name = "pxr", vector = "traditional-mr" } ,
>    { name = "pxmi", vector = "traditional-mi", skewchar=0x7F },
>    { name = "pxsy", vector = "traditional-sy", skewchar=0x30, parameters =
> true } ,
>    { name = "pxex", vector = "traditional-ex", extension = true } ,
>    { name = "pxsya", vector = "traditional-ma" },
>    { name = "pxsyb", vector = "traditional-mb" },
> } )
>
> (feel free to figure out what font -)
>
>
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Re: beta release

[Yue Wang]

HZ feature is still not working in the latest beta.
(Wolfgang's example is a good test for that)

2009/3/2 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>:
>
> Am 01.03.2009 um 18:19 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>
>> Yue Wang wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Hans:
>>> Are HZ features still working? I test the beta with one of my
>>> documents, and it gives very bad line break:(
>>
>> it should work ok ... what testfile do you use?
>
> He's is right, here is a example.
>
> \definefontfeature[default][default][script=latn,mode=node,expansion=quality,protrusion=quality]
>
> \usetypescript[palatino]
> \setupbodyfont[palatino]
>
> \mainlanguage[de]
>
> \starttext
>
> Ein König von Baßrah besaß große Reichtümer. Seine Untertanen liebten ihn,
> aber er hatte keine Kinder, und das betrübte ihn über die Maßen. Indes
> veranlaßte er alle heiligen Männer in seinen Staaten durch namhafte
> Geschenke,
> den Himmel für ihn um einen Sohn zu bitten, und ihre Gebete waren nicht
> erfolglos: die Königin wurde schwanger und genas glücklich eines Sohnes.
> welcher
> den Namen Zeyn Alasnam, d\,h~Zierde der Bildsäulen, erhielt.
>
> Der König ließ alle Sterndeuter seines Reiches zusammenrufen und befahl
> ihnen, dem Kind das Horoskop zu stellen. Sie entdeckten durch ihre
> Beobachtungen, daß er lange leben und viel Mut besitzen würde, daß er dieses
> Mutes aber auch bedürfe, um das vielfache Unglück, das ihn bedrohe, mannhaft
> zu
> ertragen. Der König erschrak nicht über diese Weissagung, »Wenn mein Sohn
> Mut
> hat«, sagte er, »so ist er nicht zu beklagen. Es ist gut, wenn die Prinzen
> manchmal in ein Unglück kommen; Widerwärtigkeiten läutern ihre Tugend, sie
> lernen dadurch nur um so besser regieren.«
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>
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Re: beta release

[Hans Hagen]

Yue Wang wrote:
> ${\bf y}$ still gives me roman regular y.

sure, as i didn't add any bold definitions yet

Hans


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