hyphenation patters for Ukrainian

hyphenation patters for Ukrainian

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Hello,

What bout hyphenation patters for Ukrainian?
\language[ru] seems to work, but \language[ua] does not.

Best,
Vyatcheslav
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A few minor questions

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Hello,

1) I use \setupindenting[yes, big]. How to make the first paragraph 
(after the section title) to be indented too?

2) I made a command for abstracts (a few lines in the beginning of the 
paper, one paragraph only). Please, look at my definition, i'd like to 
know how to implement it in more elegant, ConTeXt way.
\define[1]\Abstract{
\startalignment[middle]
\switchtobodyfont[11pt]
{\it #1}
\stopalignment
\blank[big]}

Example usage:
\Abstract{Присвячено практичному застосуванню алгоритмів параметричної 
ідентифікації для визначення параметрів технологічного процесу 
гідроструйного різання}

Best regards,
Vyatcheslav
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font-win.tex

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Is there a script which can be called font-win.tex, which describes all 
OS-shipped fonts on Windows platform? If not, why? :o)

Best,
Vyatcheslav
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My printer vs. Times New Roman

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Hello again,

Sorry for asking so many questions at a time, but i'm really intrigued.

I have Samsung ML-1615 laser printer. When I print an MS Word document 
typesetted in Times New Roman, the printer uses internal (hardware) font 
resource, and hardcopy is very smooth and nice. When I print a pdf 
generated by ConTexT, the same font becomes rasterized and looks a bit 
ragged on a paper.

Is there a way to instruct Acrobat and printer that I use authentic Time 
New Roman?

(The typescript I currently use is:
\starttypescript [serif] [timesnr]
\definefontsynonym [TimesNRRegular][file:times][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [TimesNRItalic][file:timesi][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [TimesNRBold][file:timesbd][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [timesnr]
\definefontsynonym [Serif][TimesNRRegular][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic][TimesNRItalic][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold][TimesNRBold][features=default]
%\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic][][features=default]
%\definefontsynonym [SansBoldSlanted][SansBoldItalic][features=default]
%\definefontsynonym [SansCaps][Sans][features=smallcaps]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted][SerifItalic][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [timesnr]
\definetypeface[timesnr][rm][serif][timesnr][default]
\stoptypescript
)

Best regards,
Vyatcheslav
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Re: My printer vs. Times New Roman

[Michail Vidiassov]

Dear Vyatcheslav,

On Tue, 10 Mar 2009, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:

> I have Samsung ML-1615 laser printer. When I print an MS Word document 
> typesetted in Times New Roman, the printer uses internal (hardware) font 
> resource, and hardcopy is very smooth and nice. When I print a pdf generated 
> by ConTexT, the same font becomes rasterized and looks a bit ragged on a 
> paper.

IMHO Samsung ML-1615 is a GDI printer, that relies on PC CPU to do most of 
the work. Thus the printer is unlikely to have any hardware fonts.

There may be settings in your PDF viewer to enable/disable the use of 
local fonts and something like "print text as graphics" - you may play 
with them. But in general PDF document/PDF viewer/Windows GDI printer driver 
combo may or may not work depending on the astrological conditions.

/* Offtopic
  Is "go and get a PostScript 3 printer or use GhostScript, both are dirt cheap"
  an answer backed by the collective wisdom of ConTeXt/LuaTeX/pdfTeX users? 
*/

           Sincerely, Michail
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Re: A few minor questions

[Taco Hoekwater]

Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 1) I use \setupindenting[yes, big]. How to make the first paragraph
> (after the section title) to be indented too?

\setuphead[section][indentnext=yes]

> 2) I made a command for abstracts (a few lines in the beginning of the
> paper, one paragraph only). Please, look at my definition, i'd like to
> know how to implement it in more elegant, ConTeXt way.

\startsetups abstract:before
  \startalignment[middle]
  \switchtobodyfont[11pt]
  \bgroup\it
\stopsetups

\startsetups abstract:after
  \egroup
  \stopalignment
  \blank[big]
\stopsetups

\definestartstop
  [Abstract]
  [before=\directsetup{abstract:before},
   after=\directsetup{abstract:after}]

\startAbstract
...
\stopAbstract

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: font-win.tex

[Taco Hoekwater]

Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> Is there a script which can be called font-win.tex, which describes all
> OS-shipped fonts on Windows platform? If not, why? :o)

IIRC, every Windows platform ships with a slightly different list.

There are the 12 basic TimesNewRoman, Arial and Courier fonts, but
not all versions of those fonts have the same glyph repertoire.

For Hans, this would be a useful addition to mtx-fonts:

  mtxrun --script=fonts --list --tree=\$OSFONTDIR


Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: font-win.tex

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 10.03.2009 um 09:46 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:

> Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
>> Is there a script which can be called font-win.tex, which describes  
>> all
>> OS-shipped fonts on Windows platform? If not, why? :o)
>
> IIRC, every Windows platform ships with a slightly different list.
>
> There are the 12 basic TimesNewRoman, Arial and Courier fonts, but
> not all versions of those fonts have the same glyph repertoire.

That's not a reason why we can't ship typescript files for Windows
and Mac. We still have type-msw with typescripts for Verdana and
Arial and type-xtx with typescripts for the Mac (a lot of them
for XeTeX only).

I think it makes sense to provide two new files type-win for fonts
included in Windows Vista and type-mac for Mac OS (are .dfont fonts
working in LuaTeX 0.40).

Wolfgang

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Re: font-win.tex

[Taco Hoekwater]

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> type-mac for Mac OS (are .dfont fonts working in LuaTeX 0.40).

That would be nice, but I am not sure I will get around to implementing
it (besides time constraints, it is never easy to develop for a platform
one doesn't actually have). It would be nice if there was a volunteer

Best wishes,
Taco


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Re: font-win.tex

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 10.03.2009 um 11:58 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:

>> type-mac for Mac OS (are .dfont fonts working in LuaTeX 0.40).
>
> That would be nice, but I am not sure I will get around to  
> implementing
> it (besides time constraints, it is never easy to develop for a  
> platform
> one doesn't actually have). It would be nice if there was a volunteer

I thought this because you mentioned it in the announcement for 0.31.0
(as point on your todo list).

Wolfgang

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Re: font-win.tex

[Taco Hoekwater]

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
> Am 10.03.2009 um 11:58 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
> 
>>> type-mac for Mac OS (are .dfont fonts working in LuaTeX 0.40).
>>
>> That would be nice, but I am not sure I will get around to implementing
>> it (besides time constraints, it is never easy to develop for a platform
>> one doesn't actually have). It would be nice if there was a volunteer
> 
> I thought this because you mentioned it in the announcement for 0.31.0
> (as point on your todo list).

I know, I know. Foot in mouth etc.
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Re: font-win.tex

[Michail Vidiassov]

Dear Taco and All,

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> type-mac for Mac OS (are .dfont fonts working in LuaTeX 0.40).
>
> That would be nice, but I am not sure I will get around to implementing
> it (besides time constraints, it is never easy to develop for a platform
> one doesn't actually have).

BTW, how the multiplatformity is handled now?

Is there a "regular multiplatform build farm"?

Do developers use remote access to computers with platforms
they do not have at home (if no - due to lack of hardware or interest)?

And what are the platforms blessed to be owned by developers?

                       Sincerely, Michail

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Re: My printer vs. Times New Roman

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

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Am 2009-03-10 um 05:59 schrieb Michail Vidiassov:
> /* Offtopic
> Is "go and get a PostScript 3 printer or use GhostScript, both are  
> dirt cheap"
> an answer backed by the collective wisdom of ConTeXt/LuaTeX/pdfTeX  
> users? */


In my experience "no" regarding PS3 printers being cheap.

And there are sometimes printing problems with Adobe Acrobat/Reader as  
well as with GhostScript and GS-based applications, regardless of the  
source of the PDF, on some printers - even those that claim to contain  
genuine PostScript interpreters.


Greetlings from Lake Constance!
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Re: font-win.tex

[Taco Hoekwater]

Michail Vidiassov wrote:
> Dear Taco and All,
> 
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>> type-mac for Mac OS (are .dfont fonts working in LuaTeX 0.40).
>> That would be nice, but I am not sure I will get around to implementing
>> it (besides time constraints, it is never easy to develop for a platform
>> one doesn't actually have).
> 
> BTW, how the multiplatformity is handled now?
> 
> Is there a "regular multiplatform build farm"?

In a way. Luatex runs piggyback on the context garden distribution.

   http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals#Supported_platforms

(although that page may be a little bit outdated)

Also, once a year we sync with texlive (that adds the somewhat
outlandish AIX and hpux, as well as OpenBSD on i386).

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: hyphenation patters for Ukrainian

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 00:06, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> Hello,
>
> What bout hyphenation patters for Ukrainian?
> \language[ru] seems to work, but \language[ua] does not.

There is one issue that needs to be fixed first - the ??? needs to be
replaced with proper language code:
    mtx-patterns.lua:    { "??",  "hyph-uk.tex",            "ukrainian" },
Then, Hans needs to rerun the script to generate patterns and then you
need to resolve the language synonym problem. Ukrainian should have
been uk, not ua.

Mojca
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Re: font-win.tex

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 10.03.2009 um 12:37 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:

>> It would be nice if there was a volunteer
> I'm the one, but for Windows XP at the moment. Then I will add Vista  
> fonts. IMHO, the previous versions of Windows are not worth to  
> consider.

I can provide typescripts for the new Vista Cxxx fonts.

Wolfgang

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Re: font-win.tex

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

> It would be nice if there was a volunteer
I'm the one, but for Windows XP at the moment. Then I will add Vista fonts. IMHO, the previous versions of Windows are not worth to consider.

Vyatcheslav

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