* problem with two columns on a page
@ 2009-03-12 15:56 Jelle Huisman
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From: Jelle Huisman @ 2009-03-12 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
I'm typesetting a dictionary using \startcolumns[n=2,balance=yes] to get
balanced columns. I have 26 balanced columns with simple headers in
between and a lot of situations with two columns on one page. (see
example). As long as the number of lines of the first columns (AA) is
fewer than a certain value around 20 the next columns (BB) will be
placed on the same page, but if there are more lines from the first
columns they push the second columns to the next page. Is there a way to
control this behavior, I would like to be able to keep this second
columns starting on this page even if there are only 5 lines of text
available for it. (using MkII)
\starttext
\showgrid
\startalignment[center] AA \stopalignment\blank
\startcolumns[n=2,balance=yes]
\dorecurse{40}{a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a } % << this works
%\dorecurse{42}{a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a } % << this
pushes columns (BB) to the next page
\stopcolumns
\startalignment[center] BB \stopalignment\blank
\startcolumns[n=2,balance=yes]
\dorecurse{100}{b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b }
\stopcolumns
\stoptext
Thanks,
Jelle
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* Re: problem with two columns on a page [not found] ` <49BA873E.20603@wxs.nl> @ 2009-03-13 17:26 ` Jelle Huisman 2009-03-13 18:19 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Jelle Huisman @ 2009-03-13 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hans Hagen wrote: > the problem is that the paragraph is larger than two columns and > that's tricky to handle without too much messing around (i'll redo the > balancer in mkiv once i've arrived at it; i see where the catch takes > place but i'd rather not touch the mkii code now) > > so, what you can do is trigger the otr before columns end > > add \penalty\outputpenalty just before \stopcolumns > > (ok, might hav eother side effects It does indeed not do what I expected. One final try: is there some sort of setting for the number of lines allowed in a column that triggers the OTR, so that I could tweak that? Or is it hard coded and will it break everything? Thanks, Jelle ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: problem with two columns on a page 2009-03-13 17:26 ` Jelle Huisman @ 2009-03-13 18:19 ` Hans Hagen 2009-03-13 18:39 ` Jelle Huisman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-03-13 18:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Jelle Huisman wrote: > Hans Hagen wrote: >> the problem is that the paragraph is larger than two columns and >> that's tricky to handle without too much messing around (i'll redo the >> balancer in mkiv once i've arrived at it; i see where the catch takes >> place but i'd rather not touch the mkii code now) >> >> so, what you can do is trigger the otr before columns end >> >> add \penalty\outputpenalty just before \stopcolumns >> >> (ok, might hav eother side effects > > It does indeed not do what I expected. One final try: is there some sort > of setting for the number of lines allowed in a column that triggers the > OTR, so that I could tweak that? Or is it hard coded and will it break > everything? where did you put the penalty? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: problem with two columns on a page 2009-03-13 18:19 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-03-13 18:39 ` Jelle Huisman 2009-03-13 19:20 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Jelle Huisman @ 2009-03-13 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hans Hagen wrote: > Jelle Huisman wrote: >> Hans Hagen wrote: >>> the problem is that the paragraph is larger than two columns and >>> that's tricky to handle without too much messing around (i'll redo >>> the balancer in mkiv once i've arrived at it; i see where the catch >>> takes place but i'd rather not touch the mkii code now) >>> >>> so, what you can do is trigger the otr before columns end >>> >>> add \penalty\outputpenalty just before \stopcolumns >>> >>> (ok, might hav eother side effects >> >> It does indeed not do what I expected. One final try: is there some >> sort of setting for the number of lines allowed in a column that >> triggers the OTR, so that I could tweak that? Or is it hard coded and >> will it break everything? > > where did you put the penalty? Right before \stopcolumns, as you suggested. \starttext \showgrid \startalignment[center] AA \stopalignment\blank \startcolumns[n=2,balance=yes] %\dorecurse{40}{a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a } % << this works \dorecurse{42}{a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a } % << this pushes columns (BB) to the next page \penalty\outputpenalty \stopcolumns \startalignment[center] BB \stopalignment\blank \startcolumns[n=2,balance=yes] \dorecurse{100}{b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b } \stopcolumns \stoptext Jelle ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: problem with two columns on a page 2009-03-13 18:39 ` Jelle Huisman @ 2009-03-13 19:20 ` Hans Hagen 2009-03-13 19:25 ` Marcin Borkowski 2009-03-13 20:23 ` Jelle Huisman 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-03-13 19:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Jelle Huisman wrote: > Hans Hagen wrote: >> Jelle Huisman wrote: >>> Hans Hagen wrote: >>>> the problem is that the paragraph is larger than two columns and >>>> that's tricky to handle without too much messing around (i'll redo >>>> the balancer in mkiv once i've arrived at it; i see where the catch >>>> takes place but i'd rather not touch the mkii code now) >>>> >>>> so, what you can do is trigger the otr before columns end >>>> >>>> add \penalty\outputpenalty just before \stopcolumns >>>> >>>> (ok, might hav eother side effects >>> >>> It does indeed not do what I expected. One final try: is there some >>> sort of setting for the number of lines allowed in a column that >>> triggers the OTR, so that I could tweak that? Or is it hard coded and >>> will it break everything? >> >> where did you put the penalty? > > Right before \stopcolumns, as you suggested. > > \starttext > \showgrid > > \startalignment[center] AA \stopalignment\blank > \startcolumns[n=2,balance=yes] > %\dorecurse{40}{a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a } % << this works > \dorecurse{42}{a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a } % << this > pushes columns (BB) to the next page > \penalty\outputpenalty > \stopcolumns > > \startalignment[center] BB \stopalignment\blank > \startcolumns[n=2,balance=yes] > \dorecurse{100}{b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b } \penalty\outputpenalty > \stopcolumns > > \stoptext > > > Jelle > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry > to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: problem with two columns on a page 2009-03-13 19:20 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-03-13 19:25 ` Marcin Borkowski 2009-03-13 20:23 ` Jelle Huisman 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2009-03-13 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hans, I've read in this thread that you're going to work on columns some day. Could you pay some attention to multicolumn itemizations? Currently they *must* be [packed], which is a serious restriction for me (I can put some struts, but it's not very comfortable nor elegant...) Regards -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: problem with two columns on a page 2009-03-13 19:20 ` Hans Hagen 2009-03-13 19:25 ` Marcin Borkowski @ 2009-03-13 20:23 ` Jelle Huisman 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Jelle Huisman @ 2009-03-13 20:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hans Hagen wrote: >> \starttext >> \showgrid >> \startalignment[center] AA \stopalignment\blank >> \startcolumns[n=2,balance=yes] >> %\dorecurse{40}{a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a } % << this >> works >> \dorecurse{42}{a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a } % << this >> pushes columns (BB) to the next page >> \penalty\outputpenalty >> \stopcolumns >> \startalignment[center] BB \stopalignment\blank >> \startcolumns[n=2,balance=yes] >> \dorecurse{100}{b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b } > > \penalty\outputpenalty > >> \stopcolumns >> \stoptext The "B" columns still start at the seond page :-( Jelle ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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