From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/49048 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: \framed (and others) don't honor directional switches Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:08:48 +0200 Message-ID: <49D67AE0.7050304@wxs.nl> References: <20090403123501.GA12675@khaled-laptop> <49D6075C.80106@wxs.nl> <20090403204723.GA28189@khaled-laptop> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1238792989 12376 80.91.229.12 (3 Apr 2009 21:09:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:09:49 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users , Idris Samawi Hamid Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Apr 03 23:11:07 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LpqfJ-0001VM-KG for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:11:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7D41FB89; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:09:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24164-01; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:09:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103901FADF; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:09:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6F41FADF for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:09:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12571-03 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:08:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (filter4-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.72]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241A21FADB for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:08:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n33L8qQP017238 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:08:52 +0200 Original-Received: from [10.100.8.10] (unverified [10.100.8.10]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.9e) with ESMTP id 25738-1840426 for multiple; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:08:47 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <20090403204723.GA28189@khaled-laptop> X-Originating-IP: 10.100.8.10 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=83.247.100.17; country=NL; region=16; city=Dronten; latitude=52.5333; longitude=5.7167; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5333,5.7167&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 203699442 - b2d2e5eb0cef - 20090403 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.72 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:49048 Archived-At: Khaled Hosny wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 02:55:56PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >> Khaled Hosny wrote: >>> framed, framedtext, TEXpage (and may be others), no longer honor >>> directional switches. I'm sure TEXpage at least was OK a month ago. >>> >>> \pagedir TRT\bodydir TRT\pardir TRT\textdir TRT >>> \starttext >>> \startTEXpage >>> \input tufte >>> \stopTEXpage >>> \framed{Hello world} >>> \startframedtext >>> \input tufte >>> \stopframedtext >>> \startbackground >>> \input tufte >>> \stopbackground >>> \stoptext >> if so then it's a side effect of changesin the engine (changes in rl >> handling are dangerous because macro packages are internally lr in many >> aspects (like positioning data relative to other data) and patching each >> macro for rl is non trivial (due to possible side effects) so first we >> need to be sure that the luatex engine is okay > > I tried to debug thus further, compiling the following document with > both plain and context formats, in plain all boxes are TRT (the part of > the log after "Completed box being shipped out [1]"), while in context > all boxes are TLT except that hbox that contains the text. Though I > don't know how much relevant is this or what it does actually mean. > > \pagedir TRT > \bodydir TRT > \pardir TRT > \textdir TRT > \tracingall > Hello \hbox{World} > \bye you can comment this in cont-new.mkiv % \def\pagedir{\expandafter\gobblethreearguments} % \def\bodydir{\expandafter\gobblethreearguments} i'm trying to figure out what dirs make sense (even when all are enabled the alignment is no 100% ok; for instance, why should bodydir influence textdir and pardir (i.e. when i would expect the content to be rl independent of page/bodydir (we need some higher level interface and not these low level *dir commands) best is if you and idris sort this out (is part of idris onthology) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________