* Re: hyphenation
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@ 2009-04-09 15:02 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
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From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2009-04-09 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas A. Schmitz, ntg-context
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Hello Thomas and everybody,
I've checked hyph patterns for Russian and languages provided by you. I
discovered that nothing has changed for last month -- the result is
exactly the same for luatex 0.35 and 0.37, as well as respective ConTeXt
builds.
Two demo images are attached.
Vyatcheslav
> Hi Vyatcheslav,
>
> I append a file that I have used, can you simply add tests for Russian
> and Ukrainian? Yes, I'm using mkiv, latest beta, luatex 0.37.
>
> Thanks for your help - I will be offline until Sunday night.
>
> All best
>
> Thomas
>
>
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* hyphenation
@ 2021-10-13 7:49 Hans Hagen via ntg-context
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From: Hans Hagen via ntg-context @ 2021-10-13 7:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
Here is a nice trick to show all possible (within the constraints of
fonts and languages) hyphenations in a paragraoh:
\bgroup
\setupalign[flushright]
\hyphenpenalty-100000
\input tufte
\par % force hyphenation
\egroup
This one does the same for last lines on a page with a hyphen:
\bgroup
% \interlinepenalty10000
\brokenpenalty-10000
\input tufte
\egroup
Hans
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* Re: hyphenation
2018-10-26 11:38 hyphenation Hans van der Meer
2018-10-26 11:54 ` hyphenation Hans Hagen
@ 2018-10-26 11:57 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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Untested:
\setupreferenceformat[style=\nohyphens]
Wolfgang
Hans van der Meer schrieb am 26.10.18 um 13:38:
> Using roman numbers in figures I encountered a case where XIII.9 was
> hyphenated into XI-II.9. A bit unclear, in my opinion.
>
> Easily repairable with something
> like \def\myfigure[#1]{{\nohyphens\in{figure}[#1]}}
> Just an observation, not really a problem but maybe something waiting
> to be fixed.
>
> dr. Hans van der Meer
>
>
>
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* Re: hyphenation
2018-10-26 11:38 hyphenation Hans van der Meer
@ 2018-10-26 11:54 ` Hans Hagen
2018-10-26 11:57 ` hyphenation Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2018-10-26 11:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 10/26/2018 1:38 PM, Hans van der Meer wrote:
> Using roman numbers in figures I encountered a case where XIII.9 was
> hyphenated into XI-II.9. A bit unclear, in my opinion.
>
> Easily repairable with something
> like \def\myfigure[#1]{{\nohyphens\in{figure}[#1]}}
> Just an observation, not really a problem but maybe something waiting to
> be fixed.
\nl \hyphenation{XIII}
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* hyphenation
@ 2018-10-26 11:38 Hans van der Meer
2018-10-26 11:54 ` hyphenation Hans Hagen
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From: Hans van der Meer @ 2018-10-26 11:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Using roman numbers in figures I encountered a case where XIII.9 was hyphenated into XI-II.9. A bit unclear, in my opinion.
Easily repairable with something like \def\myfigure[#1]{{\nohyphens\in{figure}[#1]}}
Just an observation, not really a problem but maybe something waiting to be fixed.
dr. Hans van der Meer
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* Re: hyphenation
2009-05-24 21:12 hyphenation Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2009-05-25 7:07 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2009-05-25 7:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Hraban,
Your questions are more about luatex than about context, I think
(you _are_ talking about mkiv, yes?)
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Ahoi,
> (1)
> there's an ongoing thread on the German mailing list (TeX-D-L), if it
> would be possible to implement weighted(?) hyphenation, i.e. that some
> breaks are better than other, e.g.
> Do-nau---dampf--schiff---fahrt
> Wa-ren---wirt--schaft
> Eu-ro-pa---par-la--ment
> (In InDesign I can suggest such priorities if I add words to the user
> dictionary.)
There is a tracker item to that effect:
http://tracker.luatex.org/view.php?id=168
but it has no planned deadline yet.
> (2)
> Uses ConTeXt the same hyphenation algorithm as LaTeX? Or one of the
> newer projects? (perhaps SiSiSi?)
At the moment, the functionality of \patterns in luatex is the same as
in pdf(tex) except that the hyphenation patterns are fully UTF-8.
> (3)
> Further, I wonder why \hyphenation{} is case dependend - in my last
> project "Secretary General" was wrongly hyphenated, but
> \hyphenation{se-cre-ta-ry} didn't fix it, I needed
> \hyphenation{Se-cre-ta-ry}. Does that make sense?
Not so much. At first sight, this looks like a luatex bug. I will
investigate.
Best wishes,
Taco
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* hyphenation
@ 2009-05-24 21:12 Henning Hraban Ramm
2009-05-25 7:07 ` hyphenation Taco Hoekwater
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2009-05-24 21:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Ahoi,
(1)
there's an ongoing thread on the German mailing list (TeX-D-L), if it
would be possible to implement weighted(?) hyphenation, i.e. that some
breaks are better than other, e.g.
Do-nau---dampf--schiff---fahrt
Wa-ren---wirt--schaft
Eu-ro-pa---par-la--ment
(In InDesign I can suggest such priorities if I add words to the user
dictionary.)
(2)
Uses ConTeXt the same hyphenation algorithm as LaTeX? Or one of the
newer projects? (perhaps SiSiSi?)
(3)
Further, I wonder why \hyphenation{} is case dependend - in my last
project "Secretary General" was wrongly hyphenated, but
\hyphenation{se-cre-ta-ry} didn't fix it, I needed \hyphenation{Se-cre-
ta-ry}. Does that make sense?
Greetlings from Lake Constance!
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* Re: hyphenation
2004-01-06 21:37 ` hyphenation Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2004-01-07 6:21 ` Peter Münster
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From: Peter Münster @ 2004-01-07 6:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> > Here again the example, where you can see the problem.
>
> Here's no problem - I get hyphenation.
Ok, then there must be a problem with my installation. I only get "evolution"
hyphenated, but not "évolution"... :(
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* Re: hyphenation
2004-01-06 16:58 hyphenation (was: Re: extended ascii characters) Peter Münster
@ 2004-01-06 21:37 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2004-01-07 6:21 ` hyphenation Peter Münster
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2004-01-06 21:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
Am Dienstag, 06.01.04, um 17:58 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Peter
Münster:
> The original posted example began with \fr, which should be the same as
> \language[fr].
right.
> Here again the example, where you can see the problem.
Here's no problem - I get hyphenation.
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* Re: hyphenation
2003-04-02 6:04 hyphenation Zeljko Vrba
@ 2003-04-08 11:26 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-04-08 11:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
At 08:04 02/04/2003 +0200, Zeljko Vrba wrote:
>I'm typesetting something in Croatian language. In cont-en.tex I put
>an \installlanguage, and properly configured the hyphenation tables
>(which languages to include/exclude). In my main project file, I put
>\mainlanguage[hr]. Is this enough for Context to use Croatian hyphenation
>rules? Is there a way to check by which rules does it hyphenate?
>
>(I myself am not too familiar with my own language's hyphenation :),
>but some words do appear hyphenated strangely nevertheless.. so I'd just
>want to check it)
this is also related to the (font) encoding; are you sure that the encoding
matches the patterns?
(can be set up with installlanguage, see czech)
Hans
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* hyphenation
@ 2003-04-02 6:04 Zeljko Vrba
2003-04-08 11:26 ` hyphenation Hans Hagen
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From: Zeljko Vrba @ 2003-04-02 6:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
I'm typesetting something in Croatian language. In cont-en.tex I put
an \installlanguage, and properly configured the hyphenation tables
(which languages to include/exclude). In my main project file, I put
\mainlanguage[hr]. Is this enough for Context to use Croatian hyphenation
rules? Is there a way to check by which rules does it hyphenate?
(I myself am not too familiar with my own language's hyphenation :),
but some words do appear hyphenated strangely nevertheless.. so I'd just
want to check it)
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* Re: Hyphenation
[not found] ` <3.0.5.32.19990525160807.00a40210@mail.northcoast.com>
@ 1999-05-26 7:35 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 1999-05-26 7:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
David Arnold wrote:
> (f:\texmf\tex\context\config\cont-usr.tex))
> language : no patterns en for en (n=0)
> language : no hyphenations en for en (n=0)
> language : patterns uk for uk loaded (n=1)
> ConTeXt ver: 1999.5.11 fmt: 1999.5.22 int: english mes: english
> >> It doesn't look like I am getting the hyphenation patterns I need. The
> >> following source generates the attached pdf on my system.
Ah, this is a real problem! I didn't notice that because I use the
lang-* filenames here (those were included in previous distributions).
File mapping is rather recent and was introduced to prevent
duplications. The cont-usr file should have an 'en' entry too! I also
noticed that the uk entry was wrong: should be 'ukhyphen' instead of
'ukhyph'. So much for standards in naming. I don;t think tetex suffers
from this, because Thomas has a system wide mapping system running
there.
Can you add/change these lines in cont-usr.tex?
\definefilesynonym [lang-en.pat] [ushyph1.tex]
\definefilesynonym [lang-us.pat] [ushyph1.tex]
\definefilesynonym [lang-uk.pat] [ukhyphen.tex]
Thanks for mentioning the problem,
Hans
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