xetex and attachment: troubles

xetex and attachment: troubles

[Andrea Valle]

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Dear all,
I'm using xetex with fun (as suggested and discussed on the mailing  
list).

I'm revising a previously created document which used attachment  
command.
(the one documented here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ 
Verbatim_text#A_different_approach_to_formatting_and_code_colorization
)

The actual version is here:
http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/sw/sc/prd_tSCIRMA_scr.pdf

Now, with ConTeXt no problem.
If I use XeConTeXt (--> texexec --xtx) the file is not attached  
(there's the marker, a link is diplayed, but Acrobat says that  
there's no attachment).
As far as I can say, the problem seems to depend on --xtx switch,

Any hints?

Thanks

Best

-a-


--------------------------------------------------
Andrea Valle
--------------------------------------------------
CIRMA - DAMS
Università degli Studi di Torino
--> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
--> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle
--> andrea.valle@unito.it
--------------------------------------------------


"
Think of it as seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on noise)






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Re: xetex and attachment: troubles

[Andrea Valle]

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Sorry, but I would need a solution, or at least to know if there's  
nothing to do.

Any hints?

Best

Thanks

-a-


On 31 Mar 2008, at 17:28, Andrea Valle wrote:

> Dear all,
> I'm using xetex with fun (as suggested and discussed on the mailing  
> list).
>
> I'm revising a previously created document which used attachment  
> command.
> (the one documented here:
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ 
> Verbatim_text#A_different_approach_to_formatting_and_code_colorization
> )
>
> The actual version is here:
> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/sw/sc/prd_tSCIRMA_scr.pdf
>
> Now, with ConTeXt no problem.
> If I use XeConTeXt (--> texexec --xtx) the file is not attached  
> (there's the marker, a link is diplayed, but Acrobat says that  
> there's no attachment).
> As far as I can say, the problem seems to depend on --xtx switch,
>
> Any hints?
>
> Thanks
>
> Best
>
> -a-
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Andrea Valle
> --------------------------------------------------
> CIRMA - DAMS
> Università degli Studi di Torino
> --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
> --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle
> --> andrea.valle@unito.it
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> "
> Think of it as seasoning
> . noise [salt] is boring
> . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
> . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
> "
> (Ken Perlin on noise)
>
>
>
>
>
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--------------------------------------------------
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Università degli Studi di Torino
--> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
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--------------------------------------------------


"
Think of it as seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on noise)






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Re: xetex and attachment: troubles

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Andrea Valle wrote:
> Dear all,
> I'm using xetex with fun (as suggested and discussed on the mailing list).
>
> I'm revising a previously created document which used attachment command.
> (the one documented here:
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Verbatim_text#A_different_approach_to_formatting_and_code_colorization
> )
>
> The actual version is here:
> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/sw/sc/prd_tSCIRMA_scr.pdf
>
> Now, with ConTeXt no problem.
> If I use XeConTeXt (--> texexec --xtx) the file is not attached (there's the
> marker, a link is diplayed, but Acrobat says that there's no attachment).
> As far as I can say, the problem seems to depend on --xtx switch,

The problem is not the "--xtx switch", but the lack of support for the
underlying (xdvipdfmx) driver.

I googled a bit and found the following slides:
      http://project.ktug.or.kr/dvipdfmx/doc/tug2005.pdf
see page 18 in particular.

In spec-fdf there is:

\definespecial \doattachfile {\doPDFattachfile}

\def\doPDFattachfile#1#2#3#4#5#6#7#8%
  {\bgroup % title width height color symbol file
   \edefconvertedargument\PDFfile{#8}%
   % beware: the symbol may (indirectly) use the file
   % reference when typesetting the object number;
   \presetPDFsymbolappearance{#5}{#6}{#2}{#3}{#4}% sets width/height
   \startPDFsymbolappearance
     \doPDFembedfile\PDFfile{#7}{#8}%
     \doPDFgetembeddedfilereference\PDFfile\PDFobjectreference
     \setFDFlayer\@@DriverAttachmentLayer
     \doPDFannotation{\width}{\totalheight}
       {/Subtype /FileAttachment
        /FS \PDFobjectreference\space
        /Contents (#1)
        \PDFsymbol
        \FDFlayer
        \PDFattributes}%
   \stopPDFsymbolappearance
   \egroup}

Something similar needs to be added to spec-dpx.tex. (If Hans doesn't
reply, then someone else will have to.)

Mojca
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Re: xetex and attachment: troubles

[Andrea Valle]

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Thanks Mojca,


>
> The problem is not the "--xtx switch", but the lack of support for the
> underlying (xdvipdfmx) driver.


Sorry, please remember I'm very far from there...
I was just meaning: the problem is in xetex engine?


> I googled a bit and found the following slides:
>       http://project.ktug.or.kr/dvipdfmx/doc/tug2005.pdf
> see page 18 in particular.

thanks, means really nothing to me :-)

>
> In spec-fdf there is:
>
> \definespecial \doattachfile {\doPDFattachfile}
>
> \def\doPDFattachfile#1#2#3#4#5#6#7#8%
>   {\bgroup % title width height color symbol file
>    \edefconvertedargument\PDFfile{#8}%
>    % beware: the symbol may (indirectly) use the file
>    % reference when typesetting the object number;
>    \presetPDFsymbolappearance{#5}{#6}{#2}{#3}{#4}% sets width/height
>    \startPDFsymbolappearance
>      \doPDFembedfile\PDFfile{#7}{#8}%
>      \doPDFgetembeddedfilereference\PDFfile\PDFobjectreference
>      \setFDFlayer\@@DriverAttachmentLayer
>      \doPDFannotation{\width}{\totalheight}
>        {/Subtype /FileAttachment
>         /FS \PDFobjectreference\space
>         /Contents (#1)
>         \PDFsymbol
>         \FDFlayer
>         \PDFattributes}%
>    \stopPDFsymbolappearance
>    \egroup}
>


> Something similar needs to be added to spec-dpx.tex.

Can't follow you here. What is spec-dpx?


Best

-a-




> --------------------------------------------------

Andrea Valle
--------------------------------------------------
CIRMA - DAMS
Università degli Studi di Torino
--> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
--> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle
--> andrea.valle@unito.it
--------------------------------------------------


I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who  
doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this  
guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with  
me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss  
Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information.
(Annabel Chong)




--------------------------------------------------
Andrea Valle
--------------------------------------------------
CIRMA - DAMS
Università degli Studi di Torino
--> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
--> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle
--> andrea.valle@unito.it
--------------------------------------------------


"
Think of it as seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on noise)






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Re: xetex and attachment: troubles

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Andrea Valle wrote:
> Thanks Mojca,
>
> The problem is not the "--xtx switch", but the lack of support for the
> underlying (xdvipdfmx) driver.
>
>
> Sorry, please remember I'm very far from there...
> I was just meaning: the problem is in xetex engine?
>
>
>
> I googled a bit and found the following slides:
>       http://project.ktug.or.kr/dvipdfmx/doc/tug2005.pdf
> see page 18 in particular.
>
> > thanks, means really nothing to me :-)

It was meant for someone else trying to help :-)

> > Something similar needs to be added to spec-dpx.tex.
>
> Can't follow you here. What is spec-dpx?

[TEXMF]/tex/context/base/spec-dpx.tex is a file that someone should
fix in order to make attachments work with XeTeX.

Mojca
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Re: xetex and attachment: troubles

[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Andrea Valle wrote:
>> Thanks Mojca,
>>
>> The problem is not the "--xtx switch", but the lack of support for the
>> underlying (xdvipdfmx) driver.
>>
>>
>> Sorry, please remember I'm very far from there...
>> I was just meaning: the problem is in xetex engine?
>>
>>
>>
>> I googled a bit and found the following slides:
>>       http://project.ktug.or.kr/dvipdfmx/doc/tug2005.pdf
>> see page 18 in particular.
>>
>>> thanks, means really nothing to me :-)
> 
> It was meant for someone else trying to help :-)

she meant me; however, i have no test file and probably a non working 
xetex on my machine (need to update)

Hans

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Re: xetex and attachment: troubles

[Andrea Valle]

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Thanks Mojca, Hans,

ok, I've understood.

:)

-a-



On 3 Apr 2008, at 12:17, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Andrea Valle wrote:
>>> Thanks Mojca,
>>>
>>> The problem is not the "--xtx switch", but the lack of support  
>>> for the
>>> underlying (xdvipdfmx) driver.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, please remember I'm very far from there...
>>> I was just meaning: the problem is in xetex engine?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I googled a bit and found the following slides:
>>>       http://project.ktug.or.kr/dvipdfmx/doc/tug2005.pdf
>>> see page 18 in particular.
>>>
>>>> thanks, means really nothing to me :-)
>>
>> It was meant for someone else trying to help :-)
>
> she meant me; however, i have no test file and probably a non working
> xetex on my machine (need to update)
>
> Hans
>
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--------------------------------------------------
CIRMA - DAMS
Università degli Studi di Torino
--> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
--> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle
--> andrea.valle@unito.it
--------------------------------------------------


"
Think of it as seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on noise)






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Re: xetex and attachment: troubles

[Jesse Alama]

Any progress on this?  As of 2009-04-09, attachments with xetex still
behave as Andrea described on 2008-03-31.  (I'm using the xetex in the
minimals.)

Jesse

Andrea Valle <valle@di.unito.it> writes:

> Thanks Mojca, Hans,
>
> ok, I've understood.
>
> :)
>
> -a-
>
>
>
> On 3 Apr 2008, at 12:17, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>     Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
>         On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Andrea Valle wrote:
>
>             Thanks Mojca,
>
>             The problem is not the "--xtx switch", but the lack of support for
>             the
>             underlying (xdvipdfmx) driver.
>
>
>             Sorry, please remember I'm very far from there...
>             I was just meaning: the problem is in xetex engine?
>
>
>
>             I googled a bit and found the following slides:
>                   http://project.ktug.or.kr/dvipdfmx/doc/tug2005.pdf
>             see page 18 in particular.
>
>
>                 thanks, means really nothing to me :-)
>
>
>         It was meant for someone else trying to help :-)
>
>
>     she meant me; however, i have no test file and probably a non working 
>     xetex on my machine (need to update)
>
>     Hans
>
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>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Andrea Valle
> --------------------------------------------------
> CIRMA - DAMS
> Università degli Studi di Torino
> --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/
> --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle
> --> andrea.valle@unito.it
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> "
> Think of it as seasoning
> . noise [salt] is boring
> . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
> . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
> "
> (Ken Perlin on noise)
>
>
>
>
>
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-- 
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Re: xetex and attachment: troubles

[Hans Hagen]

Jesse Alama wrote:
> Any progress on this?  As of 2009-04-09, attachments with xetex still
> behave as Andrea described on 2008-03-31.  (I'm using the xetex in the
> minimals.)

i didn't look into it; it's mostly a dpx backend issue btw, not that 
much related to xetex

Hans


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