* [NTG-context] Upgrading from 2021.03.05.20230120 -> 2023.05.05.20230730 breaks BibTeX footnotes
@ 2024-06-17 17:57 Kip Warner
2024-06-17 22:54 ` [NTG-context] " Hans Hagen via ntg-context
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From: Kip Warner @ 2024-06-17 17:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello list,
I recently upgraded my distro release to Ubuntu Noble on one of my
machines. The ConTeXt packages that were previously for
2021.03.05.20230120 were upgraded to 2023.05.05.20230730.
Since the upgrade I've noticed my BibTeX footnotes that previously
looked like this:
https://imgur.com/vg7Xjd3.png
Now look like this:
https://imgur.com/I3hq6bM.png
I haven't changed anything in the source of my document. This is how I
typeset in my Environment.tex:
% Select References.bib and name it the main database...
\usebtxdataset[main][./References.bib]
% Citation style...
\usebtxdefinitions[apa]
% Use our main dataset for citations...
\setupbtx[dataset=main]
\definebtxrendering[main][apa][dataset=main]
% When listing all references use APS style...
\definebtxrendering
[list_all_references]
[aps]
[dataset=main,
group=examples]
\setupbtxrendering[main][
pagestate=start,
continue=yes,
numbering=yes]
% Macro to put the citations as footnotes...
\unexpanded\def\footnotecite{\dodoubleempty\domycite}
\def\domycite[#1][#2]%
{\ifsecondargument
\footnote{\cite[alternative=entry,#1][main::#2]}%
\else
\footnote{\cite[alternative=entry][main::#1]}%
\fi}
Any help appreciated!
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* [NTG-context] Re: Upgrading from 2021.03.05.20230120 -> 2023.05.05.20230730 breaks BibTeX footnotes
2024-06-17 17:57 [NTG-context] Upgrading from 2021.03.05.20230120 -> 2023.05.05.20230730 breaks BibTeX footnotes Kip Warner
@ 2024-06-17 22:54 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2024-06-18 0:40 ` Kip Warner
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From: Hans Hagen via ntg-context @ 2024-06-17 22:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kip Warner, mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Hans Hagen
On 6/17/2024 7:57 PM, Kip Warner wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I recently upgraded my distro release to Ubuntu Noble on one of my
> machines. The ConTeXt packages that were previously for
> 2021.03.05.20230120 were upgraded to 2023.05.05.20230730.
>
> Since the upgrade I've noticed my BibTeX footnotes that previously
> looked like this:
>
> https://imgur.com/vg7Xjd3.png
>
> Now look like this:
>
> https://imgur.com/I3hq6bM.png
>
> I haven't changed anything in the source of my document. This is how I
> typeset in my Environment.tex:
>
> % Select References.bib and name it the main database...
> \usebtxdataset[main][./References.bib]
>
> % Citation style...
> \usebtxdefinitions[apa]
>
> % Use our main dataset for citations...
> \setupbtx[dataset=main]
>
> \definebtxrendering[main][apa][dataset=main]
>
> % When listing all references use APS style...
> \definebtxrendering
> [list_all_references]
> [aps]
> [dataset=main,
> group=examples]
>
> \setupbtxrendering[main][
> pagestate=start,
> continue=yes,
> numbering=yes]
>
> % Macro to put the citations as footnotes...
> \unexpanded\def\footnotecite{\dodoubleempty\domycite}
> \def\domycite[#1][#2]%
> {\ifsecondargument
> \footnote{\cite[alternative=entry,#1][main::#2]}%
> \else
> \footnote{\cite[alternative=entry][main::#1]}%
> \fi}
complete example needed
- tex file
- bib file
Hans
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* [NTG-context] Re: Upgrading from 2021.03.05.20230120 -> 2023.05.05.20230730 breaks BibTeX footnotes
2024-06-17 22:54 ` [NTG-context] " Hans Hagen via ntg-context
@ 2024-06-18 0:40 ` Kip Warner
[not found] ` <4de46d2f-4b2c-4936-a980-31dbf62e27ac@xs4all.nl>
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From: Kip Warner @ 2024-06-18 0:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
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On Tue, 2024-06-18 at 00:54 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> complete example needed
>
> - tex file
> - bib file
Hello Hans,
While trying to prepare a minimal for you I noticed that now all of my
footnotes disappear. Here is a minimal using the buffer method so there
is only one file:
\startbuffer[testdata]
@Book{cicero-tuscu2011,
author = {Cicéron, Marcus Tullius},
editor = {Fohlen, G.},
publisher = {Les Belles Lettres},
title = {Tusculanes},
year = {2011},
address = {Paris},
edition = {7e tirage},
isbn = {9782251010830},
series = {œuvres philosophiques},
volume = {1},
ppn_gvk = {1823774121},
translator = {Jules Humbert},
}
\stopbuffer
% Setup bibliography...
% Select References.bib and name it the main database...
\usebtxdataset[main][testdata.buffer]
% Citation style...
\usebtxdefinitions[apa]
% Use our main dataset for citations...
\setupbtx[dataset=main]
\definebtxrendering[main][apa][dataset=main]
\setupbtxrendering[main][
pagestate=start,
continue=yes,
numbering=yes]
% Macro to put the citations as footnotes...
\unexpanded\def\footnotecite{\dodoubleempty\domycite}
\def\domycite[#1][#2]%
{\ifsecondargument
\footnote{\cite[alternative=entry,#1][main::#2]}%
\else
\footnote{\cite[alternative=entry][main::#1]}%
\fi}
\starttext
Some footnote here.\footnotecite[cicero-tuscu2011]
\stoptext
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* [NTG-context] Re: Upgrading from 2021.03.05.20230120 -> 2023.05.05.20230730 breaks BibTeX footnotes
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@ 2024-06-18 16:48 ` Hans Hagen
2024-06-19 1:28 ` Kip Warner
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2024-06-18 16:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kip Warner, mailing list for ConTeXt users
On 6/18/2024 6:38 PM, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-06-18 at 18:16 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> you need to place a list in order to get some ref
>
> Is there no way to use references without having to list the entire
> bibliography?
then use \alwayscite
% hidden : mark for list, don't show in text
% list : mark for list, show in text only when in list
% text : not to list, show in text
% always : mark for list, show in text
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* [NTG-context] Re: Upgrading from 2021.03.05.20230120 -> 2023.05.05.20230730 breaks BibTeX footnotes
2024-06-18 16:48 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2024-06-19 1:28 ` Kip Warner
2024-06-19 7:24 ` Hans Hagen
2024-06-21 0:13 ` Kip Warner
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From: Kip Warner @ 2024-06-19 1:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
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On Tue, 2024-06-18 at 18:48 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> then use \alwayscite
Hey Hans. I note that command is not documented (yet) so thank you for
providing that. That works in getting the reference typeset without
having to list all of them.
That at least gets the reference to typeset, but back to the original
issue, it still doesn't typeset correctly. I've managed to come up with
a minimal that displays the garbled reference:
\startbuffer[testdata]
@Book{cicero-tuscu2011,
author = {Cicéron, Marcus Tullius},
editor = {Fohlen, G.},
publisher = {Les Belles Lettres},
title = {Tusculanes},
year = {2011},
address = {Paris},
edition = {7e tirage},
isbn = {9782251010830},
series = {œuvres philosophiques},
volume = {1},
ppn_gvk = {1823774121},
translator = {Jules Humbert},
}
\stopbuffer
% Setup bibliography...
% Select References.bib and name it the main database...
\usebtxdataset[main][testdata.buffer]
% Citation style...
\usebtxdefinitions[apa]
% Use our main dataset for citations...
\setupbtx[dataset=main]
\definebtxrendering[main][apa][dataset=main]
\setupbtxrendering[main][
pagestate=start,
continue=yes,
numbering=yes]
% Macro to put the citations as footnotes...
\unexpanded\def\footnotecite{\dodoubleempty\domycite}
\def\domycite[#1][#2]%
{\ifsecondargument
\footnote{\alwayscite[alternative=entry,#1][main::#2]}%
\else
\footnote{\alwayscite[alternative=entry][main::#1]}%
\fi}
\starttext
Some footnote.\footnotecite[cicero-tuscu2011]
\stoptext
If I use ConTeXt via https://context-on-web.eu/, which appears to be
ConTeXt ver: 2022.12.22 22:17 LMTX fmt: 2022.12.23, it works fine and I
see the following in the footnote, as expected:
1 Cicéron, M. T. (2011). Tusculanes (G. Fohlen, Ed.) (J. Humbert,
Trans.). (Vol. 1, 7e tirage ed.). Paris: Les Belles Lettres.
But on my machine which has ConTeXt 2023.05.05, I see the following:
1 internal()Cicéron, M. T. (2011). Tusculanes (G. Fohlen, Ed.) (J.
Humbert, Trans.). (Vol. 1, 7e tirage ed.). Paris: Les Belles Lettres.
isbn∶9782251010830
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* [NTG-context] Re: Upgrading from 2021.03.05.20230120 -> 2023.05.05.20230730 breaks BibTeX footnotes
2024-06-19 1:28 ` Kip Warner
@ 2024-06-19 7:24 ` Hans Hagen
2024-06-19 17:30 ` Kip Warner
2024-06-21 0:13 ` Kip Warner
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2024-06-19 7:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kip Warner; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On 6/19/2024 3:28 AM, Kip Warner wrote:
> But on my machine which has ConTeXt 2023.05.05, I see the following:
so best update then ... a while ago we had some addition for references
and that involved an extra argument someplace which is what you see ...
seems to be solved in the meantime, if not i'll look at it
(i assume you use the installer)
Hans
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* [NTG-context] Re: Upgrading from 2021.03.05.20230120 -> 2023.05.05.20230730 breaks BibTeX footnotes
2024-06-19 7:24 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2024-06-19 17:30 ` Kip Warner
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From: Kip Warner @ 2024-06-19 17:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
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On Wed, 2024-06-19 at 09:24 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> so best update then ... a while ago we had some addition for
> references and that involved an extra argument someplace which is
> what you see ... seems to be solved in the meantime, if not i'll look
> at it
>
> (i assume you use the installer)
I use the Debian packages that ship with Ubuntu Noble (24.04). I'm a
bit reluctant to install outside of the package manager's stewardship
of the FHS, but might have to.
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* [NTG-context] Re: Upgrading from 2021.03.05.20230120 -> 2023.05.05.20230730 breaks BibTeX footnotes
2024-06-19 1:28 ` Kip Warner
2024-06-19 7:24 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2024-06-21 0:13 ` Kip Warner
2024-06-21 7:17 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Kip Warner @ 2024-06-21 0:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
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On Tue, 2024-06-18 at 18:28 -0700, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-06-18 at 18:48 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > then use \alwayscite
>
> Hey Hans. I note that command is not documented (yet) so thank you
> for providing that.
Thank you Hans for documenting:
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/alwayscite
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* [NTG-context] Re: Upgrading from 2021.03.05.20230120 -> 2023.05.05.20230730 breaks BibTeX footnotes
2024-06-21 0:13 ` Kip Warner
@ 2024-06-21 7:17 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2024-06-21 7:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kip Warner; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On 6/21/2024 2:13 AM, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-06-18 at 18:28 -0700, Kip Warner wrote:
>> On Tue, 2024-06-18 at 18:48 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> then use \alwayscite
>>
>> Hey Hans. I note that command is not documented (yet) so thank you
>> for providing that.
>
> Thank you Hans for documenting:
>
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/alwayscite
You have to thank someone else for that effort.
Hans
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From: Kip Warner @ 2024-06-15 17:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
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Hello list,
I recently upgraded my distro release to Ubuntu Noble on one of my
machines. The ConTeXt packages that were previously for
2021.03.05.20230120 were upgraded to 2023.05.05.20230730.
Since the upgrade I've noticed my BibTeX footnotes that previously
looked like this:
https://imgur.com/vg7Xjd3.png
Now look like this:
https://imgur.com/I3hq6bM.png
I haven't changed anything in the source of my document. This is how I
typeset in my Environment.tex:
% Select References.bib and name it the main database...
\usebtxdataset[main][./References.bib]
% Citation style...
\usebtxdefinitions[apa]
% Use our main dataset for citations...
\setupbtx[dataset=main]
\definebtxrendering[main][apa][dataset=main]
% When listing all references use APS style...
\definebtxrendering
[list_all_references]
[aps]
[dataset=main,
group=examples]
\setupbtxrendering[main][
pagestate=start,
continue=yes,
numbering=yes]
% Macro to put the citations as footnotes...
\unexpanded\def\footnotecite{\dodoubleempty\domycite}
\def\domycite[#1][#2]%
{\ifsecondargument
\footnote{\cite[alternative=entry,#1][main::#2]}%
\else
\footnote{\cite[alternative=entry][main::#1]}%
\fi}
Any help appreciated!
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