* Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain
@ 2009-05-12 14:25 Yanrui Li
2009-05-12 14:37 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Yanrui Li @ 2009-05-12 14:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Hans,
I tried to use Chinese opentype fonts with luatex + plain fmt but I
failed. Only with Chinese TTF fonts it can work.
This a simple example:
\pdfoutput=1
\font\myfont=AdobeSongStd-Light
\myfont
我想实现 LuaTeX 对中文的支持
\end
When I compiled it, I got the following messages:
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.41.0-2009051221 (Web2C 7.5.7)
\write18 enabled.
(tt.tex (luatex-basics.tex) (luatex-fonts.tex <luatex-fonts-merged.lua> <luatex
-fonts.lua loaded in 0.027 seconds>) (luatex-mplib.tex)
LuaTeX warning: lua-loaded font [51] (/usr/share/fonts/adobe/AdobeSongStd-Light
.otf) has no characters!
[1{/opt/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/plain/pdftex.map}] ){/opt/context/te
x/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-rep-cmrm.enc}</opt/context/tex/texmf/fonts/type1/
public/lm/lmr10.pfb>
Output written on tt.pdf (1 page, 17128 bytes).
Transcript written on tt.log.
My test environment is minimals 2009.05.12 11:27 with Linux x86.
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Li Yanrui
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* Re: Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain
2009-05-12 14:25 Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain Yanrui Li
@ 2009-05-12 14:37 ` Hans Hagen
2009-05-12 15:02 ` Yanrui Li
2009-05-12 16:55 ` Dohyun Kim
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-05-12 14:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Yanrui Li wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> I tried to use Chinese opentype fonts with luatex + plain fmt but I
> failed. Only with Chinese TTF fonts it can work.
>
> This a simple example:
>
> \pdfoutput=1
> \font\myfont=AdobeSongStd-Light
>
> \myfont
> 我想实现 LuaTeX 对中文的支持
>
> \end
>
> When I compiled it, I got the following messages:
>
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.41.0-2009051221 (Web2C 7.5.7)
> \write18 enabled.
> (tt.tex (luatex-basics.tex) (luatex-fonts.tex <luatex-fonts-merged.lua> <luatex
> -fonts.lua loaded in 0.027 seconds>) (luatex-mplib.tex)
> LuaTeX warning: lua-loaded font [51] (/usr/share/fonts/adobe/AdobeSongStd-Light
> .otf) has no characters!
> [1{/opt/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/plain/pdftex.map}] ){/opt/context/te
> x/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-rep-cmrm.enc}</opt/context/tex/texmf/fonts/type1/
> public/lm/lmr10.pfb>
> Output written on tt.pdf (1 page, 17128 bytes).
> Transcript written on tt.log.
this is because a cidmap is needed and the kpse that you use does not
have it; upcoming versions of kpse (and luatex's kpse lib) will support
it given that you also adapted your texmf.cnf accordingly then
so a bit patience is needed
Hans
(worls ok in mkiv because it follows a different route)
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* Re: Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain
2009-05-12 14:37 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2009-05-12 15:02 ` Yanrui Li
2009-05-12 15:47 ` Hans Hagen
2009-05-12 16:55 ` Dohyun Kim
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From: Yanrui Li @ 2009-05-12 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Yanrui Li wrote:
>>
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> I tried to use Chinese opentype fonts with luatex + plain fmt but I
>> failed. Only with Chinese TTF fonts it can work.
>>
>
> this is because a cidmap is needed and the kpse that you use does not have
> it; upcoming versions of kpse (and luatex's kpse lib) will support it given
> that you also adapted your texmf.cnf accordingly then
I see. Thanks.
>
> so a bit patience is needed
Yes. I prepared for it because Yue had told me those calculations in
OTF font processing of luatex.
I need to load it only for the experiments of Chinese punctuation
compression in the bbox way.
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Li Yanrui
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* Re: Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain
2009-05-12 15:02 ` Yanrui Li
@ 2009-05-12 15:47 ` Hans Hagen
2009-05-12 16:04 ` Yue Wang
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-05-12 15:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Yanrui Li wrote:
> I need to load it only for the experiments of Chinese punctuation
> compression in the bbox way.
i played with that and discarded the code (in mkiv) for the moment
because first i want more info about fonts and their quality ... one
easily spends days on solving 'bugs' that are actually bugs in fonts instead
i will look again into these issues when
- i get precise rules for spacing (or multiple rule sets)
- we have a set of default cjk fonts in tex live that can serve as
reference
Hans
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* Re: Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain
2009-05-12 15:47 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2009-05-12 16:04 ` Yue Wang
2009-05-12 16:15 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Yue Wang @ 2009-05-12 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Yanrui Li wrote:
>
>> I need to load it only for the experiments of Chinese punctuation
>> compression in the bbox way.
>
> i played with that and discarded the code (in mkiv) for the moment because
> first i want more info about fonts and their quality ... one easily spends
> days on solving 'bugs' that are actually bugs in fonts instead
>
> i will look again into these issues when
>
> - i get precise rules for spacing (or multiple rule sets)
No one have the epxerience of using the bbox information to typeset
Chinese before --- that information was not availble to the user until
LuaTeX came into being.
So even experienced Chinese typesetting artist don't know the spacing rules.
We have to play/experiment that in LuaTeX in order to find the best
possible parameters for typesetting.
Then we can report to you what should ConTeXt do in order to type
Chinese perfectly.
> - we have a set of default cjk fonts in tex live that can serve as reference
Adobe set will be good enough for reference.
>
> Hans
>
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* Re: Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain
2009-05-12 16:04 ` Yue Wang
@ 2009-05-12 16:15 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-05-12 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 12.05.2009 um 18:04 schrieb Yue Wang:
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>> - we have a set of default cjk fonts in tex live that can serve as
>> reference
>
> Adobe set will be good enough for reference.
With Adobes fonts you can use the 'palt' feature but this has a few
effects
which are not always desired but I wasn't able in the past to use it
in MkIV.
Wolfgang
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* Re: Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain
2009-05-12 14:37 ` Hans Hagen
2009-05-12 15:02 ` Yanrui Li
@ 2009-05-12 16:55 ` Dohyun Kim
2009-05-12 17:51 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Dohyun Kim @ 2009-05-12 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2009/5/12 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> Yanrui Li wrote:
>>
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> I tried to use Chinese opentype fonts with luatex + plain fmt but I
>> failed. Only with Chinese TTF fonts it can work.
>>
>> This a simple example:
>>
>> \pdfoutput=1
>> \font\myfont=AdobeSongStd-Light
>>
>> \myfont
>> 我想实现 LuaTeX 对中文的支持
>>
>> \end
>>
>> When I compiled it, I got the following messages:
>>
>> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.41.0-2009051221 (Web2C 7.5.7)
>> \write18 enabled.
>> (tt.tex (luatex-basics.tex) (luatex-fonts.tex <luatex-fonts-merged.lua>
>> <luatex
>> -fonts.lua loaded in 0.027 seconds>) (luatex-mplib.tex)
>> LuaTeX warning: lua-loaded font [51]
>> (/usr/share/fonts/adobe/AdobeSongStd-Light
>> .otf) has no characters!
>> [1{/opt/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/plain/pdftex.map}]
>> ){/opt/context/te
>>
>> x/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-rep-cmrm.enc}</opt/context/tex/texmf/fonts/type1/
>> public/lm/lmr10.pfb>
>> Output written on tt.pdf (1 page, 17128 bytes).
>> Transcript written on tt.log.
>
> this is because a cidmap is needed and the kpse that you use does not have
> it; upcoming versions of kpse (and luatex's kpse lib) will support it given
> that you also adapted your texmf.cnf accordingly then
>
> so a bit patience is needed
>
Yes, that is a source of problem; more obstacles, however, are waiting for us.
1.
To test an cid-keyed opentype fonts, I have copied *.cidmap files
into current directory and processed a simple document with luatex-plain.
But it did not work:
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.1-2009050920 (Web2C 7.5.7)
\write18 enabled.
(nanumotf.tex
(/media/disk/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-basics.tex)
(/media/disk/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-fonts.tex <lu
atex-fonts-merged.lua> <luatex-fonts.lua loaded in 0.027 seconds>)
(/media/disk/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-mplib.tex)
LuaTeX warning: lua-loaded font [51] (/media/disk/context/tex/texmf-local/fonts
/opentype/korean/NanumGothic.otf) has no characters!
The same message as that of Li Yanrui's experiment, which would not
occur on windows machine. But I am on my linux box, whose
file system, as you know, distinguishs upper- and lower-case letters:
Adobe-Korea1-2.cidmap is quite different from adobe-korea1-2.cidmap.
So I added one line into luatex-fonts-merged.lua as follows:
--- ../tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-fonts-merged.lua 2009-05-12
18:29:55.000000000 +0900
+++ luatex-fonts-merged.lua 2009-05-13 01:14:55.000000000 +0900
@@ -3898,6 +3898,7 @@
local function locate(registry,ordering,supplement)
local filename = format(template,registry,ordering,supplement)
+ filename = string.lower(filename)
local cidmap = fonts.cid.map[filename]
if not cidmap then
if trace_loading then
2.
However, I still got an error even after that one-line patch:
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.1-2009050920 (Web2C 7.5.7)
\write18 enabled.
(nanumotf.tex
(/media/disk/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-basics.tex)
(/media/disk/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-fonts.tex <lu
atex-fonts-merged.lua> <luatex-fonts.lua loaded in 0.029 seconds>)
(/media/disk/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-mplib.tex)
! LuaTeX error ./luatex-fonts-merged.lua:3879: attempt to call field 'loaddata'
(a nil value).
In other words, loaddata is not defined. So I issued "grep" command,
which helped me finding "io.loaddata" function defined in l-io.lua.
In sum:
even after modification of kpse, two more problems should be fixed.
1. lowering uppercase filename before searching cidmap
2. including l-io.lua into luatex-plain
Regards,
Dohyun Kim
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* Re: Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain
2009-05-12 16:55 ` Dohyun Kim
@ 2009-05-12 17:51 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-05-12 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Dohyun Kim wrote:
> even after modification of kpse, two more problems should be fixed.
> 1. lowering uppercase filename before searching cidmap
> 2. including l-io.lua into luatex-plain
i uploaded a beta
Hans
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