* Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain
@ 2009-05-12 14:25 Yanrui Li
2009-05-12 14:37 ` Hans Hagen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Yanrui Li @ 2009-05-12 14:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hi Hans,
I tried to use Chinese opentype fonts with luatex + plain fmt but I
failed. Only with Chinese TTF fonts it can work.
This a simple example:
\pdfoutput=1
\font\myfont=AdobeSongStd-Light
\myfont
我想实现 LuaTeX 对中文的支持
\end
When I compiled it, I got the following messages:
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.41.0-2009051221 (Web2C 7.5.7)
\write18 enabled.
(tt.tex (luatex-basics.tex) (luatex-fonts.tex <luatex-fonts-merged.lua> <luatex
-fonts.lua loaded in 0.027 seconds>) (luatex-mplib.tex)
LuaTeX warning: lua-loaded font [51] (/usr/share/fonts/adobe/AdobeSongStd-Light
.otf) has no characters!
[1{/opt/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/plain/pdftex.map}] ){/opt/context/te
x/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-rep-cmrm.enc}</opt/context/tex/texmf/fonts/type1/
public/lm/lmr10.pfb>
Output written on tt.pdf (1 page, 17128 bytes).
Transcript written on tt.log.
My test environment is minimals 2009.05.12 11:27 with Linux x86.
--
Best wishes,
Li Yanrui
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain 2009-05-12 14:25 Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain Yanrui Li @ 2009-05-12 14:37 ` Hans Hagen 2009-05-12 15:02 ` Yanrui Li 2009-05-12 16:55 ` Dohyun Kim 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-05-12 14:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Yanrui Li wrote: > Hi Hans, > > I tried to use Chinese opentype fonts with luatex + plain fmt but I > failed. Only with Chinese TTF fonts it can work. > > This a simple example: > > \pdfoutput=1 > \font\myfont=AdobeSongStd-Light > > \myfont > 我想实现 LuaTeX 对中文的支持 > > \end > > When I compiled it, I got the following messages: > > This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.41.0-2009051221 (Web2C 7.5.7) > \write18 enabled. > (tt.tex (luatex-basics.tex) (luatex-fonts.tex <luatex-fonts-merged.lua> <luatex > -fonts.lua loaded in 0.027 seconds>) (luatex-mplib.tex) > LuaTeX warning: lua-loaded font [51] (/usr/share/fonts/adobe/AdobeSongStd-Light > .otf) has no characters! > [1{/opt/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/plain/pdftex.map}] ){/opt/context/te > x/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-rep-cmrm.enc}</opt/context/tex/texmf/fonts/type1/ > public/lm/lmr10.pfb> > Output written on tt.pdf (1 page, 17128 bytes). > Transcript written on tt.log. this is because a cidmap is needed and the kpse that you use does not have it; upcoming versions of kpse (and luatex's kpse lib) will support it given that you also adapted your texmf.cnf accordingly then so a bit patience is needed Hans (worls ok in mkiv because it follows a different route) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain 2009-05-12 14:37 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-05-12 15:02 ` Yanrui Li 2009-05-12 15:47 ` Hans Hagen 2009-05-12 16:55 ` Dohyun Kim 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Yanrui Li @ 2009-05-12 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > Yanrui Li wrote: >> >> Hi Hans, >> >> I tried to use Chinese opentype fonts with luatex + plain fmt but I >> failed. Only with Chinese TTF fonts it can work. >> > > this is because a cidmap is needed and the kpse that you use does not have > it; upcoming versions of kpse (and luatex's kpse lib) will support it given > that you also adapted your texmf.cnf accordingly then I see. Thanks. > > so a bit patience is needed Yes. I prepared for it because Yue had told me those calculations in OTF font processing of luatex. I need to load it only for the experiments of Chinese punctuation compression in the bbox way. -- Best wishes, Li Yanrui ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain 2009-05-12 15:02 ` Yanrui Li @ 2009-05-12 15:47 ` Hans Hagen 2009-05-12 16:04 ` Yue Wang 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-05-12 15:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Yanrui Li wrote: > I need to load it only for the experiments of Chinese punctuation > compression in the bbox way. i played with that and discarded the code (in mkiv) for the moment because first i want more info about fonts and their quality ... one easily spends days on solving 'bugs' that are actually bugs in fonts instead i will look again into these issues when - i get precise rules for spacing (or multiple rule sets) - we have a set of default cjk fonts in tex live that can serve as reference Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain 2009-05-12 15:47 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-05-12 16:04 ` Yue Wang 2009-05-12 16:15 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Yue Wang @ 2009-05-12 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > Yanrui Li wrote: > >> I need to load it only for the experiments of Chinese punctuation >> compression in the bbox way. > > i played with that and discarded the code (in mkiv) for the moment because > first i want more info about fonts and their quality ... one easily spends > days on solving 'bugs' that are actually bugs in fonts instead > > i will look again into these issues when > > - i get precise rules for spacing (or multiple rule sets) No one have the epxerience of using the bbox information to typeset Chinese before --- that information was not availble to the user until LuaTeX came into being. So even experienced Chinese typesetting artist don't know the spacing rules. We have to play/experiment that in LuaTeX in order to find the best possible parameters for typesetting. Then we can report to you what should ConTeXt do in order to type Chinese perfectly. > - we have a set of default cjk fonts in tex live that can serve as reference Adobe set will be good enough for reference. > > Hans > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain 2009-05-12 16:04 ` Yue Wang @ 2009-05-12 16:15 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-05-12 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Am 12.05.2009 um 18:04 schrieb Yue Wang: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: >> - we have a set of default cjk fonts in tex live that can serve as >> reference > > Adobe set will be good enough for reference. With Adobes fonts you can use the 'palt' feature but this has a few effects which are not always desired but I wasn't able in the past to use it in MkIV. Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain 2009-05-12 14:37 ` Hans Hagen 2009-05-12 15:02 ` Yanrui Li @ 2009-05-12 16:55 ` Dohyun Kim 2009-05-12 17:51 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Dohyun Kim @ 2009-05-12 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users 2009/5/12 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>: > Yanrui Li wrote: >> >> Hi Hans, >> >> I tried to use Chinese opentype fonts with luatex + plain fmt but I >> failed. Only with Chinese TTF fonts it can work. >> >> This a simple example: >> >> \pdfoutput=1 >> \font\myfont=AdobeSongStd-Light >> >> \myfont >> 我想实现 LuaTeX 对中文的支持 >> >> \end >> >> When I compiled it, I got the following messages: >> >> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.41.0-2009051221 (Web2C 7.5.7) >> \write18 enabled. >> (tt.tex (luatex-basics.tex) (luatex-fonts.tex <luatex-fonts-merged.lua> >> <luatex >> -fonts.lua loaded in 0.027 seconds>) (luatex-mplib.tex) >> LuaTeX warning: lua-loaded font [51] >> (/usr/share/fonts/adobe/AdobeSongStd-Light >> .otf) has no characters! >> [1{/opt/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/plain/pdftex.map}] >> ){/opt/context/te >> >> x/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-rep-cmrm.enc}</opt/context/tex/texmf/fonts/type1/ >> public/lm/lmr10.pfb> >> Output written on tt.pdf (1 page, 17128 bytes). >> Transcript written on tt.log. > > this is because a cidmap is needed and the kpse that you use does not have > it; upcoming versions of kpse (and luatex's kpse lib) will support it given > that you also adapted your texmf.cnf accordingly then > > so a bit patience is needed > Yes, that is a source of problem; more obstacles, however, are waiting for us. 1. To test an cid-keyed opentype fonts, I have copied *.cidmap files into current directory and processed a simple document with luatex-plain. But it did not work: This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.1-2009050920 (Web2C 7.5.7) \write18 enabled. (nanumotf.tex (/media/disk/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-basics.tex) (/media/disk/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-fonts.tex <lu atex-fonts-merged.lua> <luatex-fonts.lua loaded in 0.027 seconds>) (/media/disk/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-mplib.tex) LuaTeX warning: lua-loaded font [51] (/media/disk/context/tex/texmf-local/fonts /opentype/korean/NanumGothic.otf) has no characters! The same message as that of Li Yanrui's experiment, which would not occur on windows machine. But I am on my linux box, whose file system, as you know, distinguishs upper- and lower-case letters: Adobe-Korea1-2.cidmap is quite different from adobe-korea1-2.cidmap. So I added one line into luatex-fonts-merged.lua as follows: --- ../tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-fonts-merged.lua 2009-05-12 18:29:55.000000000 +0900 +++ luatex-fonts-merged.lua 2009-05-13 01:14:55.000000000 +0900 @@ -3898,6 +3898,7 @@ local function locate(registry,ordering,supplement) local filename = format(template,registry,ordering,supplement) + filename = string.lower(filename) local cidmap = fonts.cid.map[filename] if not cidmap then if trace_loading then 2. However, I still got an error even after that one-line patch: This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.1-2009050920 (Web2C 7.5.7) \write18 enabled. (nanumotf.tex (/media/disk/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-basics.tex) (/media/disk/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-fonts.tex <lu atex-fonts-merged.lua> <luatex-fonts.lua loaded in 0.029 seconds>) (/media/disk/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-mplib.tex) ! LuaTeX error ./luatex-fonts-merged.lua:3879: attempt to call field 'loaddata' (a nil value). In other words, loaddata is not defined. So I issued "grep" command, which helped me finding "io.loaddata" function defined in l-io.lua. In sum: even after modification of kpse, two more problems should be fixed. 1. lowering uppercase filename before searching cidmap 2. including l-io.lua into luatex-plain Regards, Dohyun Kim ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Chinese opentype fonts can not be loaded in luatex-plain 2009-05-12 16:55 ` Dohyun Kim @ 2009-05-12 17:51 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-05-12 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Dohyun Kim wrote: > even after modification of kpse, two more problems should be fixed. > 1. lowering uppercase filename before searching cidmap > 2. including l-io.lua into luatex-plain i uploaded a beta Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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