From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/50419 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: MKIV, fonts, confusion Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:47:17 +0200 Message-ID: <4A0AF995.3070506@wxs.nl> References: <5df5befa0905130618j570c02a5k687b3aea95fa89c0@mail.gmail.com> <5df5befa0905130931u35f777eh102b0ef94c5ec2ea@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1242233304 18366 80.91.229.12 (13 May 2009 16:48:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:48:24 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed May 13 18:48:16 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M4Hct-0000R3-Mf for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 May 2009 18:48:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C450F1FF5C; Wed, 13 May 2009 18:48:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 31564-02; Wed, 13 May 2009 18:47:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279121FF39; Wed, 13 May 2009 18:47:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FBB1FF39 for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 18:47:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29234-05 for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 18:47:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter1-ams.mf.surf.net (filter1-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.69]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028B01FF2C for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 18:47:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by filter1-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n4DGlGQO019673 for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 18:47:17 +0200 Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.9e) with ESMTP id 9642-1840426 for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 18:47:16 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <5df5befa0905130931u35f777eh102b0ef94c5ec2ea@mail.gmail.com> X-Originating-IP: 10.100.1.100 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=83.247.100.17; country=NL; region=15; city=Almelo; latitude=52.3500; longitude=6.6667; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.3500,6.6667&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 224823185 - 458a97229936 - 20090513 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.69 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:50419 Archived-At: afsmith wrote: > Luigi, Hans, and Wolfgang, thank you for your responses. I'm still > unclear on several things. (comments on your responses follow > afterwards) > > Let me try asking these things as questions. Specifically, could > someone please tell me... > 1. How do I determine whether I am using MKII, MKIV, or XeTeX to > process my documents? \doifmode {mkiv} { ... } \ifnum\texengine=\xetexengine .. \fi mkiv only run son top of luatex (and the context command replaces texexec there) > 2. Given the line from a typescript... > \definefontsynonym[LiberationSerif] [name:liberationserif] > .... how do I determine which file "name:liberationserif" corresponds to? not relevant since name will sort that out (given that the name is ok) > 3. In both MKII and MKIV, how can I determine which typescripts exist? > In other words, how do I determine working arguments for > "\usetypescriptfile"? by looking at the file, but at some point i expect users to switch to mkiv so if mkiv works for your document, then forget about mkii > 3b. Specifically, in the case of... > \usetypescript[palatino][ec] > .... in which typescript is this defined? (given a vanilla context > minimals installation) that one in type-one (type one font) > 4. What defines the output of "fc-list" or "mtxrun --script fonts > --list"? Do they correspond to files? Type synonyms? etc. mkiv does not use fc-list and as fc-list does not work on my machine i have no clue > 5. Do I need to bother with map files for MKII? normally the typescript handles that > 6. Is it particularly recommended that I use MKIV? How stable is it > compared to MKII? depends on your document; currently somewhat in flux due to reimplementing structure but that will stabelize > Luigi, what do you mean by "and look into base/*"? Which 'base'? Are > you talking about in the context minimals distribution? some specific > online repository? I have seen the two documents you mentioned. > Re-reading them has clarified things a little bit. tex/context/base > Wolfgang, > Currently the module you linked to > (http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/simplefonts/) is beyond my > understanding... I would first like to understand the mechanism your > module operates on before trying to automate it. > > Hans, > I am aware that there are such types of parameters that must be > defined for fonts. I understand 'it is complicated' but this does not > really help make things clearer to me. The inner workings of fonts are > of little concern to me to me at the moment. Right now I do not even > know where to look. I have seen the examples you gave for palatino, > such as... > \usetypescript[palatino][ec] > ....but I have no idea where those arguments come from well, palatino is defined in type-one if ec makes no sense to you, then just use it (polish use qx, i use texnansi, etc ... it depends on the language you use and for english it hardly matters) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________