From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/50500 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mari Voipio Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: docs Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:59:53 +0300 Message-ID: <4A0C31E9.6040501@iki.fi> References: <20090514140131.01332c39@KUBUNTU64> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1242313268 12410 80.91.229.12 (14 May 2009 15:01:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:01:08 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu May 14 17:01:01 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M4cQd-0008Cv-FS for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 17:00:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6859E1FFD2; Thu, 14 May 2009 17:00:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 30270-07-5; Thu, 14 May 2009 17:00:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A0F1FF55; Thu, 14 May 2009 17:00:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B97B1FF55 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 17:00:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 30270-07-4 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 17:00:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-til.mf.surf.net (filter3-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.219]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594C71FF51 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 17:00:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from kpatents.net (mail.kpatents.com [195.170.128.67]) by filter3-til.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4EF0B3L003703 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 17:00:11 +0200 Original-Received: from [192.168.100.147] (helo=kpatents.com) by kpatents.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M4cPq-0002eQ-Bt for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Thu, 14 May 2009 18:00:10 +0300 Original-Received: from [192.168.100.169] ([192.168.100.169]) by kpatents.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 14 May 2009 17:59:53 +0300 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <20090514140131.01332c39@KUBUNTU64> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2009 14:59:53.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[A2F77060:01C9D4A4] X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=195.170.128.67; country=FI; region=13; city=Helsinki; latitude=60.1756; longitude=24.9342; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=60.1756,24.9342&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 225662478 - d7afce3284dc - 20090514 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.219 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:50500 Archived-At: R. Bastian wrote: > -. Is it necessary to know TeX ? I assume it depends on what you are planning to do with ConTeXt. I've been using ConTeXt for at least five years now, but I've never touched TeX (nor LaTeX nor any others, just ConTeXt). I've got a vague idea what it is about and that's it. Some points though: - background in something else than WYSIWYG editing (What You See Is What You Get = Word, for example) helps a lot. Before I started with ConTeXt I'd already done my share of html and I've learned to do structured documents also in word processing (i.e. "mark it heading 1" instead of "make that big and black). - I do ConTeXt pretty much with the "learn-as-you-go" philosophy and when I really have to learn something, I'm pretty determined; most of my ConTeXt usage is at work and if something needs to be done, it has to get done and I can't back off if it seems difficult first. (It took me two days, lot of swearing and a few questions on this mailing list to achieve my first ConTeXt doc in Cyrillic, but I did it in the end. Now it is of course as easy as can be...) - depends on the operationg system and user's backgrouns, too. Those who've used linux/mainframe are probably less likely to be upset by ConTeXt while your average Mac/Windows user may go crazy at the steep start of the learning curve; I'd done some unix and that definitely increased my tolerance. There are days when I swear and yell and curse myself for going over from Word to ConTeXt. But on 9 days out of 10 I pat myself on the back for making the switch. Especially on those styles when MS Word defies all of my attempts to keep a document structurally styled... That's my five cents, Mari ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________