From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/50674 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: French typography is back Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 18:29:01 +0200 Message-ID: <4A15814D.3020400@wxs.nl> References: <4A15490B.3050607@pengzone.org> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1242923411 7390 80.91.229.12 (21 May 2009 16:30:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 16:30:11 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu May 21 18:30:04 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M7B9X-0007s2-9o for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:29:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A301FE4B; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:29:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05490-05-5; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:29:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DA21FE1E; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:29:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B65B1FE1E for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:29:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05490-05-4 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:29:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (filter4-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.72]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4EA01FDCC for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:29:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n4LGSwmc006205 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:28:59 +0200 Original-Received: from [10.100.8.10] (unverified [10.100.8.10]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.9e) with ESMTP id 11771-1840426 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:29:01 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <4A15490B.3050607@pengzone.org> X-Originating-IP: 10.100.8.10 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=83.247.100.17; country=NL; region=15; city=Almelo; latitude=52.3500; longitude=6.6667; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.3500,6.6667&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 229697356 - 1a2dd781d4e8 - 20090521 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.72 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:50674 Archived-At: Robert-Andr=E9 Mauchin wrote: > Hi again, > = > I have been reading all threads about the French typography in this = > mailing list, however the current solution is alas far for perfect. The = > command \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] was a good idea, but it = > only deals with spacing. French typography rules not only tells us that = > there should be a narrow, or a normal space before some punctuation = > marks like :, ;, , !, ?, =AB or =BB, but also that theses spaces must be = non = > breakable otherwise line breaking could occur just before a punctuation = > mark (and this is very bad). > = > Take a look at the following example: > \section{Production locale indig=E8ne ou production romaine import=E9e?} \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] \hsize .1mm a? aa? aaa? aaaa? seems ok here so what version are you using? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________