From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/50745 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Taco Hoekwater Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: hyphenation Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:07:58 +0200 Message-ID: <4A1A43CE.6060909@elvenkind.com> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1243235362 15893 80.91.229.12 (25 May 2009 07:09:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 07:09:22 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon May 25 09:09:15 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M8UJ9-0002ER-4Z for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 09:09:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4D61FD9A; Mon, 25 May 2009 09:09:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08805-04; Mon, 25 May 2009 09:08:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FD71FD83; Mon, 25 May 2009 09:08:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248221FD83 for ; Mon, 25 May 2009 09:08:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20129-01 for ; Mon, 25 May 2009 09:08:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-til.mf.surf.net (filter4-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.220]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A271FD48 for ; Mon, 25 May 2009 09:08:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp-cloud1.xs4all.nl (smtp-cloud1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.61]) by filter4-til.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4P77xWc021571 for ; Mon, 25 May 2009 09:07:59 +0200 Authentication-Results: smtp-cloud1.xs4all.nl smtp.user=boo0; auth=pass (PLAIN) Original-Received: from [82.161.175.147] ([82.161.175.147:34341] helo=[192.168.178.26]) by smtp-cloud1.xs4all.nl (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id C5/B3-00600-EC34A1A4; Mon, 25 May 2009 09:07:58 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090114) In-Reply-To: X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=194.109.24.61; country=NL; region=07; city=Amsterdam; latitude=52.3500; longitude=4.9167; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.3500,4.9167&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 230936197 - 4d54f39d299a - 20090525 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.220 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:50745 Archived-At: Hi Hraban, Your questions are more about luatex than about context, I think (you _are_ talking about mkiv, yes?) Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Ahoi, > (1) > there's an ongoing thread on the German mailing list (TeX-D-L), if it > would be possible to implement weighted(?) hyphenation, i.e. that some > breaks are better than other, e.g. > Do-nau---dampf--schiff---fahrt > Wa-ren---wirt--schaft > Eu-ro-pa---par-la--ment > (In InDesign I can suggest such priorities if I add words to the user > dictionary.) There is a tracker item to that effect: http://tracker.luatex.org/view.php?id=168 but it has no planned deadline yet. > (2) > Uses ConTeXt the same hyphenation algorithm as LaTeX? Or one of the > newer projects? (perhaps SiSiSi?) At the moment, the functionality of \patterns in luatex is the same as in pdf(tex) except that the hyphenation patterns are fully UTF-8. > (3) > Further, I wonder why \hyphenation{} is case dependend - in my last > project "Secretary General" was wrongly hyphenated, but > \hyphenation{se-cre-ta-ry} didn't fix it, I needed > \hyphenation{Se-cre-ta-ry}. Does that make sense? Not so much. At first sight, this looks like a luatex bug. I will investigate. Best wishes, Taco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________