* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt [not found] <mailman.1288.1244895890.3589.ntg-context@ntg.nl> @ 2009-06-13 15:19 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 2009-06-14 10:28 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2009-06-13 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Hello, For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :) (Had problems with it recently) Vyatcheslav ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-13 15:19 ` stand-alone ConTeXt Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2009-06-14 10:28 ` Hans Hagen 2009-06-14 15:22 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-14 10:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > Hello, > > For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :) > (Had problems with it recently) yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of conversions, auto downsampling, etc) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-14 10:28 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-14 15:22 ` luigi scarso 2009-06-14 15:41 ` Mojca Miklavec 2009-06-14 17:10 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2009-06-14 15:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 439 bytes --] On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :) >> (Had problems with it recently) >> > > yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of > conversions, auto downsampling, etc) > If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript . "luafication" will use ghostscript again ? -- luigi [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 937 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-14 15:22 ` luigi scarso @ 2009-06-14 15:41 ` Mojca Miklavec 2009-06-14 17:12 ` Hans Hagen 2009-06-14 17:26 ` luigi scarso 2009-06-14 17:10 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 2 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2009-06-14 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 17:22, luigi scarso wrote: > >>> For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :) >>> (Had problems with it recently) >> >> yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of >> conversions, auto downsampling, etc) > > If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript . > "luafication" will use ghostscript again ? Unless Hans rewrites the whole GS interpreter ... yes. The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic missing completely ...), so I usually stick to ps2pdf (perl or shell, I think) or just call gs manually. Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-14 15:41 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2009-06-14 17:12 ` Hans Hagen 2009-06-14 17:26 ` luigi scarso 1 sibling, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-14 17:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 17:22, luigi scarso wrote: >>>> For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :) >>>> (Had problems with it recently) >>> yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of >>> conversions, auto downsampling, etc) >> If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript . >> "luafication" will use ghostscript again ? > > Unless Hans rewrites the whole GS interpreter ... yes. > > The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no > way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic > missing completely ...), so I usually stick to ps2pdf (perl or shell, > I think) or just call gs manually. the problem with eps is that there are too many alternatives possible (also, versions of gs behave differently); there are actually a coiple of options (like cropping, downsampling etc) but as usual those command line switches are not documented -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-14 15:41 ` Mojca Miklavec 2009-06-14 17:12 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-14 17:26 ` luigi scarso 2009-06-14 18:00 ` Mojca Miklavec 1 sibling, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2009-06-14 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1095 bytes --] On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Mojca Miklavec < mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 17:22, luigi scarso wrote: > > > >>> For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :) > >>> (Had problems with it recently) > >> > >> yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of > >> conversions, auto downsampling, etc) > > > > If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript . > > "luafication" will use ghostscript again ? > > > Unless Hans rewrites the whole GS interpreter ... yes. > > > The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no > way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic > missing completely ...), hmm strange -- do you have an example ? By defautl gs choose rotation studying dominant text orientation on current page; cfr Setting page orientation in Ps2pdf.htm There is an option in pstopdf -dAutoRotatePages=/None . so I usually stick to ps2pdf (perl or shell, > I think) A wrapper shell around gs There is also pstill http://www.wizards.de/~frank/pstill.html -- luigi [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2076 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-14 17:26 ` luigi scarso @ 2009-06-14 18:00 ` Mojca Miklavec 2009-06-14 18:50 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2009-06-14 18:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 19:26, luigi scarso wrote: > >> The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no >> way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic >> missing completely ...), > > hmm strange -- do you have an example ? For wrong paper orientation you can try (in gnuplot): set term post set output "x.ps" plot sin(x) and then convert the resulting file. For missing graphic I remember exporting a file in OpenOffice Draw or something similar. (I can try to find it.) > By defautl gs choose rotation studying dominant text orientation on current > page; cfr Setting page orientation > in Ps2pdf.htm > There is an option in pstopdf -dAutoRotatePages=/None . Exactly that's the problem. Removing this particular option from the default options that are applied to GS run solves the problem. > >> so I usually stick to ps2pdf (perl or shell, >> I think) > > A wrapper shell around gs > There is also pstill > http://www.wizards.de/~frank/pstill.html I'll try it out just for fun :) Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-14 18:00 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2009-06-14 18:50 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2009-06-14 18:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1169 bytes --] On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Mojca Miklavec < mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 19:26, luigi scarso wrote: > > > >> The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no > >> way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic > >> missing completely ...), > > > > hmm strange -- do you have an example ? > > For wrong paper orientation you can try (in gnuplot): > > set term post > set output "x.ps" > plot sin(x) > > and then convert the resulting file. It seems that gnuplot set page orientation, so best -dAutoRotatePages=/None gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dAutoRotatePages=/None -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=x.pdf x.ps -c quit > For missing graphic I remember > exporting a file in OpenOffice Draw or something similar. (I can try > to find it.) > Was a fault of OO ? > > A wrapper shell around gs > > There is also pstill > > http://www.wizards.de/~frank/pstill.html<http://www.wizards.de/%7Efrank/pstill.html> > > I'll try it out just for fun :) > well it's seems not fun at all -- absurde command line. But it looks like the only ps interpreter alternative of gs on Linux / Windows . -- luigi [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2153 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-14 15:22 ` luigi scarso 2009-06-14 15:41 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2009-06-14 17:10 ` Hans Hagen 2009-06-14 17:39 ` luigi scarso 1 sibling, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-14 17:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users luigi scarso wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > >> Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :) >>> (Had problems with it recently) >>> >> yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of >> conversions, auto downsampling, etc) >> > > If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript . > "luafication" will use ghostscript again ? sure, what else ... actually, pstopdf started out as some perl script long ago (when we started using pdftex) and we needed it not only in order to convert to pdf, but also to clean up some mess in eps files that interfered with the process there's actually already something mtx-convert but it does not deal with eps Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-14 17:10 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-14 17:39 ` luigi scarso 2009-06-14 18:21 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2009-06-14 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 528 bytes --] > > >> If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript . >> "luafication" will use ghostscript again ? >> > > sure, what else ... actually, pstopdf started out as some perl script long > ago (when we started using pdftex) and we needed it not only in order to > convert to pdf, but also to clean up some mess in eps files that interfered > with the process > So what about a lua wrapper of libgs.so libgs.dll ? code should be not complicated http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/luatex_lunatic#Ghostscript -- luigi [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1023 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-14 17:39 ` luigi scarso @ 2009-06-14 18:21 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-14 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users luigi scarso wrote: >> >>> If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript . >>> "luafication" will use ghostscript again ? >>> >> sure, what else ... actually, pstopdf started out as some perl script long >> ago (when we started using pdftex) and we needed it not only in order to >> convert to pdf, but also to clean up some mess in eps files that interfered >> with the process >> > > So what about a lua wrapper of libgs.so libgs.dll ? > code should be not complicated > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/luatex_lunatic#Ghostscript because it adds another dependency (dll/lib mess) while using the gs program is not much slower anyway ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* stand-alone ConTeXt @ 2009-06-11 10:10 Carlos Breton Besnier 2009-06-11 10:39 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Carlos Breton Besnier @ 2009-06-11 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 67 bytes --] stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available? [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 71 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-11 10:10 Carlos Breton Besnier @ 2009-06-11 10:39 ` Hans Hagen 2009-06-11 15:05 ` Kevin D. Robbins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-11 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Carlos Breton Besnier wrote: > stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available? no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the minimals as option ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-11 10:39 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-11 15:05 ` Kevin D. Robbins 2009-06-11 18:12 ` Mohamed Bana 2009-06-11 20:42 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 0 siblings, 2 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Kevin D. Robbins @ 2009-06-11 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1476 bytes --] Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really comfortable using only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test this option. Kevin On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > Carlos Breton Besnier wrote: > >> stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available? >> > > no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the minimals as > option > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2507 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-11 15:05 ` Kevin D. Robbins @ 2009-06-11 18:12 ` Mohamed Bana 2009-06-11 19:06 ` Kevin D. Robbins 2009-06-11 20:42 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 1 sibling, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Mohamed Bana @ 2009-06-11 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users why not support Emacs? AucTeX is mature. Kevin D. Robbins wrote: > Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt > support in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I > need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really > comfortable using only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test > this option. > > Kevin > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl > <mailto:pragma@wxs.nl>> wrote: > > Carlos Breton Besnier wrote: > > stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available? > > > no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the > minimals as option > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > <http://www.pragma-ade.com> > | www.pragma-pod.nl > <http://www.pragma-pod.nl> > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an > entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-11 18:12 ` Mohamed Bana @ 2009-06-11 19:06 ` Kevin D. Robbins 2009-06-11 19:36 ` Khaled Hosny 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Kevin D. Robbins @ 2009-06-11 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3262 bytes --] Well, I and another colleague do use Emacs on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux alike. The folks I'm planning to help get started with ConTeXt, though, are as intimidated by Emacs as they are by the command line. I'm hoping that Scite will feel a bit more natural to them. Kevin On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Mohamed Bana <mbana.lists@googlemail.com>wrote: > why not support Emacs? AucTeX is mature. > > Kevin D. Robbins wrote: > >> Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support >> in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to >> support users who only work on Windows and are not really comfortable using >> only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test this option. >> >> Kevin >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl <mailto: >> pragma@wxs.nl>> wrote: >> >> Carlos Breton Besnier wrote: >> >> stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available? >> >> >> no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the >> minimals as option >> >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >> tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com >> <http://www.pragma-ade.com> >> | www.pragma-pod.nl >> <http://www.pragma-pod.nl> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an >> entry to the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 5616 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-11 19:06 ` Kevin D. Robbins @ 2009-06-11 19:36 ` Khaled Hosny 0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Khaled Hosny @ 2009-06-11 19:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4730 bytes --] TeXworks would be a good choice too, if you want a simple interface that just works. It can be used as a portable application on windows too, and I believe it can combined easily with context minimals. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 01:06:31PM -0600, Kevin D. Robbins wrote: > Well, I and another colleague do use Emacs on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux > alike. The folks I'm planning to help get started with ConTeXt, though, are as > intimidated by Emacs as they are by the command line. I'm hoping that Scite > will feel a bit more natural to them. > > Kevin > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Mohamed Bana <mbana.lists@googlemail.com> > wrote: > > why not support Emacs? AucTeX is mature. > > Kevin D. Robbins wrote: > > Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt > support in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I > need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really > comfortable using only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test > this option. > > Kevin > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl <mailto: > pragma@wxs.nl>> wrote: > > Carlos Breton Besnier wrote: > > stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not > available? > > > no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the > minimals as option > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > <http://www.pragma-ade.com> > | www.pragma-pod.nl > <http://www.pragma-pod.nl> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an > entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> / > > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry > to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ > ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ > ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer [-- Attachment #1.2: Digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 197 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-11 15:05 ` Kevin D. Robbins 2009-06-11 18:12 ` Mohamed Bana @ 2009-06-11 20:42 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 2009-06-11 22:10 ` Kevin D. Robbins 1 sibling, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد @ 2009-06-11 20:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:05:07 -0600, Kevin D. Robbins <krobbins@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote: > Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt > support in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I > need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really > comfortable using only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test > this option. If you want something really comfortable for Windows users, try the Notepad++ setup: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Image:Npp_ConTeXt-Uni.zip I don't have Vista, which uses a different dir structure for the files, but you can easily adopt this as needed. Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-11 20:42 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد @ 2009-06-11 22:10 ` Kevin D. Robbins 2009-06-12 7:44 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Kevin D. Robbins @ 2009-06-11 22:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1584 bytes --] Thanks! I'll play around a bit with TeXWorks and Notepad++. Kevin 2009/6/11 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <ishamid@colostate.edu> > On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:05:07 -0600, Kevin D. Robbins < > krobbins@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote: > > Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support >> in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to >> support users who only work on Windows and are not really comfortable using >> only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test this option. >> > > If you want something really comfortable for Windows users, try the > Notepad++ setup: > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Image:Npp_ConTeXt-Uni.zip > > I don't have Vista, which uses a different dir structure for the files, but > you can easily adopt this as needed. > > Best wishes > Idris > > -- > Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief > International Journal of Shi`i Studies > Department of Philosophy > Colorado State University > Fort Collins, CO 80523 > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2655 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-11 22:10 ` Kevin D. Robbins @ 2009-06-12 7:44 ` Hans Hagen 2009-06-13 2:29 ` Yue Wang 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-12 7:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Kevin D. Robbins wrote: > Thanks! I'll play around a bit with TeXWorks and Notepad++. i have texworks kind of working (stripped and patched set of configuration files) and at some point i will add them to the distribution ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-12 7:44 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-13 2:29 ` Yue Wang 2009-06-13 11:30 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Yue Wang @ 2009-06-13 2:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users right now the most important thing missing in the distribution is: gs, ruby, xml stuffs, gzip, zip, and tidy. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > Kevin D. Robbins wrote: >> >> Thanks! I'll play around a bit with TeXWorks and Notepad++. > > i have texworks kind of working (stripped and patched set of configuration > files) and at some point i will add them to the distribution > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-13 2:29 ` Yue Wang @ 2009-06-13 11:30 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2009-06-13 11:41 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2009-06-13 11:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Am 2009-06-13 um 04:29 schrieb Yue Wang: > right now the most important thing missing in the distribution is: > gs, ruby, xml stuffs, gzip, zip, and tidy. of course; at best just include a whole Windows. No, really, before providing everything in some monster install, better provide a Linux VM image. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-13 11:30 ` Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2009-06-13 11:41 ` Hans Hagen 2009-06-15 4:03 ` Yue Wang 2009-06-15 12:26 ` Yue Wang 0 siblings, 2 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-13 11:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Am 2009-06-13 um 04:29 schrieb Yue Wang: > >> right now the most important thing missing in the distribution is: >> gs, ruby, xml stuffs, gzip, zip, and tidy. > > of course; at best just include a whole Windows. > > No, really, before providing everything in some monster install, better > provide a Linux VM image. the mswincontext zip always provided ruby and gs and as well as xmlproc and xsltproc it's just that now that we have the garden minimals i no longer make my own so making mswincontex makes less sense too however, mojca and i are working on a garden based variant (scite and texworks) btw, if one uses mkiv, ruby is no longer needed unless one wants to run specific scripts that are not yet luafied; but then, installing ruby is no big deal anyway Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-13 11:41 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-15 4:03 ` Yue Wang 2009-06-15 7:19 ` Hans Hagen 2009-06-15 12:26 ` Yue Wang 1 sibling, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Yue Wang @ 2009-06-15 4:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users > btw, if one uses mkiv, ruby is no longer needed unless one wants to run > specific scripts that are not yet luafied; but then, installing ruby is no > big deal anyway How about process the mkii document using lua script too? So eventually we can get rid of ruby and perl. now context script supports --pdftex and --xetex switch, but it still fall back to texexec and texutils ruby scripts. > > Hans > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-15 4:03 ` Yue Wang @ 2009-06-15 7:19 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-15 7:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Yue Wang wrote: >> btw, if one uses mkiv, ruby is no longer needed unless one wants to run >> specific scripts that are not yet luafied; but then, installing ruby is no >> big deal anyway > > How about process the mkii document using lua script too? So > eventually we can get rid of ruby and perl. for that i need to rewrite the index sorting in lua (plus a little bit of tui -> tuo handling) > now context script supports --pdftex and --xetex switch, but it still > fall back to texexec and texutils ruby scripts. sure, time is limited Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-13 11:41 ` Hans Hagen 2009-06-15 4:03 ` Yue Wang @ 2009-06-15 12:26 ` Yue Wang 2009-06-15 14:33 ` Joel C. Salomon 1 sibling, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Yue Wang @ 2009-06-15 12:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users > the mswincontext zip always provided ruby and gs and as well as xmlproc and > xsltproc > > it's just that now that we have the garden minimals i no longer make my own > so making mswincontex makes less sense too > What about make a mswinbonus.zip for the user who need them, like MacTeX shipped its gs/imagemagick... Yue Wang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-15 12:26 ` Yue Wang @ 2009-06-15 14:33 ` Joel C. Salomon 2009-06-15 14:40 ` Yue Wang 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Joel C. Salomon @ 2009-06-15 14:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Yue Wang wrote: >> the mswincontext zip always provided ruby and gs and as well as xmlproc and >> xsltproc >> >> it's just that now that we have the garden minimals i no longer make my own >> so making mswincontex makes less sense too >> > > What about make a mswinbonus.zip for the user who need them, > like MacTeX shipped its gs/imagemagick... It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly complementing the utility programs from TeX Live. —Joel Salomon ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-15 14:33 ` Joel C. Salomon @ 2009-06-15 14:40 ` Yue Wang 2009-06-15 15:05 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Yue Wang @ 2009-06-15 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users > It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or > if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly > complementing the utility programs from TeX Live. > it is just context minimals' extra... minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt. > —Joel Salomon > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-15 14:40 ` Yue Wang @ 2009-06-15 15:05 ` Hans Hagen 2009-06-15 15:17 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2009-06-20 13:17 ` Mojca Miklavec 0 siblings, 2 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-15 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Yue Wang wrote: >> It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or >> if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly >> complementing the utility programs from TeX Live. >> > > it is just context minimals' extra... > minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt. there will be a goodies option: --goodies=scite,texworks,xml,gs but not many more ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-15 15:05 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-15 15:17 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2009-06-20 13:17 ` Mojca Miklavec 1 sibling, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-06-15 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Am 15.06.2009 um 17:05 schrieb Hans Hagen: >> it is just context minimals' extra... >> minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt. > > there will be a goodies option: > > --goodies=scite,texworks,xml,gs > > but not many more Is it also possible to change --extras=... to --modules=... (or keep extra for old times sake)? Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-15 15:05 ` Hans Hagen 2009-06-15 15:17 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-06-20 13:17 ` Mojca Miklavec 2009-06-21 11:09 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2009-06-20 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 17:05, Hans Hagen wrote: > Yue Wang wrote: >>> >>> It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or >>> if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly >>> complementing the utility programs from TeX Live. >> >> it is just context minimals' extra... >> minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt. > > there will be a goodies option: > > --goodies=scite,texworks,xml,gs The option --goodies=texworks should work now. Once you run setuptex (or if you have set the path), you should be able to call just "texworks filename" from command line. Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are missing from the list ... Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-20 13:17 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2009-06-21 11:09 ` Hans Hagen 2009-06-21 18:49 ` Mojca Miklavec 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-21 11:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 17:05, Hans Hagen wrote: >> Yue Wang wrote: >>>> It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or >>>> if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly >>>> complementing the utility programs from TeX Live. >>> it is just context minimals' extra... >>> minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt. >> there will be a goodies option: >> >> --goodies=scite,texworks,xml,gs > > The option --goodies=texworks should work now. Once you run setuptex > (or if you have set the path), you should be able to call just > "texworks filename" from command line. > > Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are > missing from the list ... indeed. mkiv only as i don't want dependencies on perl/ruby in this case (also, once the lua interface of texworks is stable and documented i'll see if i can make menus a bit more context friendly; for the moment i misuse the typesetting menu for a few 'features') ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-21 11:09 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-21 18:49 ` Mojca Miklavec 2009-06-21 20:55 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2009-06-21 18:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 13:09, Hans Hagen wrote: > Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> >> Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are >> missing from the list ... > > indeed. mkiv only as i don't want dependencies on perl/ruby in this case So ... should I start blackmailing with "I'll remove it from minimals unless it starts supporting mkii" or rather with "I'll tell Jonathan that your configuration doesn't support XeTeX"? :) :) :) :) :) :) (Let's leave it up to users to install ruby themselves and it's totally ok if mkiv stays the default, but I see no reason for not providing XeTeX and pdfTeX support (with synctex switch on by default) on purpose ...) > (also, once the lua interface of texworks is stable and documented i'll see > if i can make menus a bit more context friendly; for the moment i misuse the > typesetting menu for a few 'features') That's fine for me. Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: stand-alone ConTeXt 2009-06-21 18:49 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2009-06-21 20:55 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-21 20:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 13:09, Hans Hagen wrote: >> Mojca Miklavec wrote: >>> Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are >>> missing from the list ... >> indeed. mkiv only as i don't want dependencies on perl/ruby in this case > > So ... should I start blackmailing with "I'll remove it from minimals > unless it starts supporting mkii" or rather with "I'll tell Jonathan > that your configuration doesn't support XeTeX"? :) :) :) :) :) :) > > (Let's leave it up to users to install ruby themselves and it's > totally ok if mkiv stays the default, but I see no reason for not > providing XeTeX and pdfTeX support (with synctex switch on by default) > on purpose ...) well, it's not that pdftex cq. xetex are not supported, but more that mtxrun defaults to luatex / mkiv (just as texexec defaults to pdftex) and *i* want to default to luatex (no matter how much you blackmail me) users can % engine=pdftex % engine=xetex at the top of their document if they want and mtxrun will then run texexec instead if users want syntex on they can enable it with \synctex=1 Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
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