From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/51630 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: mkiv structure Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:44:33 +0200 Message-ID: <4A51E3A1.4000204@wxs.nl> References: <4A36001B.8000307@wxs.nl> <200907031012.35046.alan.braslau@cea.fr> <4A4E0FD7.4040903@wxs.nl> <200907060020.57585.alan.braslau@cea.fr> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1246880755 702 80.91.229.12 (6 Jul 2009 11:45:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ntg-context@ntg.nl To: Alan BRASLAU Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Jul 06 13:45:48 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MNmdg-0003kL-C0 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:45:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B05C1FB5B; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:45:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26529-09-4; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:44:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F4B1FB1D; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:44:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E711FAD7 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:44:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26529-09-3 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:44:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (filter2-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.70]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F851FA4C for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:44:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n66Bia8w028438 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:44:36 +0200 Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.9e) with ESMTP id 24120-1840426 for multiple; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:44:36 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) In-Reply-To: <200907060020.57585.alan.braslau@cea.fr> X-Originating-IP: 10.100.1.100 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=83.247.100.17; country=NL; region=15; city=Almelo; latitude=52.3500; longitude=6.6667; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.3500,6.6667&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 256260279 - 07d05bcf1293 - 20090706 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.70 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:51630 Archived-At: Alan BRASLAU wrote: > On Friday 03 July 2009 16:04:07 Hans Hagen wrote: >>> Obsolete in mkii? >>> Shouldn't basic use (read standard users) >>> treat source text transparently >>> between mkii and mkiv? >> no, this is one of the few places where there will be a difference; we >> have way more control now (also to the detail of setting up styles for >> each separator in a composed number) but that comes at a price; i don't >> want to complicate the mkiv code with too many compatibility hacks > > I understand and I do agree, basically. > However, any (and all) differences need to be clearly documented. > I know that you are working on this. Perhaps we need to put together > a mkii->mkiv changes summary document, from the users point of view > updating http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Mark_IV (or Mark_IV_differences). feel free to document this on the wiki we can tag such incompatibilities as 'permanent', 'temporary' and 'to be discussed' there will also be a module that collects a couple of 'obsolete' commands (often obsolete because we have better methods now but some ancient style might use them) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________