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* Possible Bug(s) in bibl-ams.tex (mkii)
@ 2009-08-12 15:09 Xan
  2009-08-12 15:40 ` Xan
  2009-08-13  9:42 ` Taco Hoekwater
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Xan @ 2009-08-12 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Taco Hoekwater; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users

Hi,

1) First of all, I want to say that

\setuppublicationlayout[incollection]{%
   \insertartauthors{}{}{\insertthekey{}{, }{}}%
   \insertarttitle{, \bgroup }{\egroup}{}%
   \inserttitle
    {, in %
    \bgroup\it}%
    {\egroup
     \inserteditors{, edited by }%
        {}%
        {}
         \insertseries
              {\insertvolume{, number }{~in }{ }}%
              {}%
              {}%
         \insertchap{\unskip, }{ }{ }%
         \insertpubyear{(%
           \insertpublisher{}%{, }%{}%
          }{)\insertEdition{, }{ ed. }{}}{}%
         \insertpages{\unskip, p.~}{. }{\unskip. }%
        }%
        {In \insertcrossref{}{}{}%
         \insertchap{\unskip, }{ }{ }%
         \insertpages{\unskip, p.~}{. }{\unskip. }%
        }%
   \insertNote{ }{.}{}%
}

must be:

\setuppublicationlayout[incollection]{%
   \insertartauthors{}{}{\insertthekey{}{, }{}}%
   \insertarttitle{, \bgroup }{\egroup}{}%
   \inserttitle
    {, in %
    \bgroup\it}%
    {\egroup
     \inserteditors{, edited by }%
        {}%
        {}
         \insertseries
              {\insertvolume{\unskip, number }{~in }{ }}%
              {}%
              {}%
         \insertchap{\unskip, }{ }{ }%
         \insertpubyear{(%
           \insertpublisher{}%{, }%{}%
          }{)\insertEdition{, }{ ed. }{}}{}%
         \insertpages{\unskip, p.~}{. }{\unskip. }%
        }%
        {In \insertcrossref{}{}{}%
         \insertchap{\unskip, }{ }{ }%
         \insertpages{\unskip, p.~}{. }{\unskip. }%
        }%
   \insertNote{ }{.}{}%
}

with \unskip before number (in 
/usr/share/texmf/context/bib/bibl-ams.tex) . Else a white space between 
coma and precedent text is putting. I used ConTeXt ver 2007.09.28 MKII 
but I think this error is in more actual versions.

2) For the other hand, if we want to that publisher is inserted, we have 
to put uncomment lines in publisher:

           \insertpublisher{}{, }{}%

With this change, context puts me the year of publication. Mysteriously 
with the original, ConTeXt puts me the publisher (is this correct Taco???).

For example, in @incollection{millerIIIa2,
author = "Charles F. {{Miller III}}",
title = "Decision problems for groups: survey and reflections",
booktitle = "Algorithms and Classification in Combinatorial Group Theory",
year = "1992",
publisher = "Springer-Verlag",
address = "Berlin",
editor = "Gilbert Baumslag and Charles F. {{Miller III}}",
pages = "1-59",
series = "MSRI Publications",
volume = 23
}

I get (in the past)

C.F M;iller III, Decision problems for groups: survey and reflections, 
in {\em Algorithms and Classification in Combinatorial Group Theory}, 
edited by G. Baumslag and C. F. Miller III, number 23 in MSRI 
Publications (Springer-Verlag, Berlin), p. 1-59.

Now I get,

C.F M;iller III, Decision problems for groups: survey and reflections, 
in {\em Algorithms and Classification in Combinatorial Group Theory}, 
edited by G. Baumslag and C. F. Miller III, number 23 in MSRI 
Publications (Springer-Verlag, Berlin, 1992), p. 1-59.


For the other hand, in @article, for example in
@article{stillwell,
title = "The Word Problem and the isomorphism problem for groups",
author = "John Stillwell",
journal = "Bulletin (New Series) of the American Mathematical Society",
volume = 6,
number = 1,
year = 1982,
month = "Jan"
}

I think it could be a dot after number, but I can't put manually: if we 
have pages after, we have dot and comma. Actually, I think we need if 
clause, but I don't know how get it. Taco, you surely do it better ;-). 
Always the bib entries should be final dot (isn't?).

3) For the other hand, I think we need a dot between pages and note in 
@article. For example in

@article{novikov,
 author = "P. S. Novikov",
 title = "On the algorithmic unsolvability of the word problem in group 
theory",
 journal = "Proceedings of Steklov Mathematical Institute",
 year = "1955",
 volume = "44",
 pages = "1-145",
 note = "Traducció anglesa a l'American Mathematical Society 
Translations (2) 9 (1958), 1-122"
}

we don't have ". Traducció ...." See the dot.

4) Finally, @inbook, I have dot between title and address and year. For 
example in

@book{grillet,
author = "Pierre Antoine Grillet",
title = "Abstract Algebra",
edition = "second",
year = "2007",
publishers = "Springer",
series = "Graduate Texts in Mathematics",
address = "New York"
}
I get

P. A. Grillet, {\em Abstract Algebra}. (New York, 2007), second ed.

and it should be:

P. A. Grillet, {\em Abstract Algebra} (New York, 2007), second ed.


Well I hope you note this. Not of all,
Xan.

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* Re: Possible Bug(s) in bibl-ams.tex (mkii)
  2009-08-12 15:09 Possible Bug(s) in bibl-ams.tex (mkii) Xan
@ 2009-08-12 15:40 ` Xan
  2009-08-13  9:42 ` Taco Hoekwater
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Xan @ 2009-08-12 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Taco Hoekwater; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users

And in @phdthesis and @masterthesis we should have

   \inserttitle{\bgroup\it }{\egroup, }{}%

after insertauthors.

Or we want to ignore the title ? ;-)

Xan.
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* Re: Possible Bug(s) in bibl-ams.tex (mkii)
  2009-08-12 15:09 Possible Bug(s) in bibl-ams.tex (mkii) Xan
  2009-08-12 15:40 ` Xan
@ 2009-08-13  9:42 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2009-08-13  9:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Xan,

I appreciate the detailed comments, but I cannot really
work with it like this, it is too hard for me to extract
actual actions.

An easier way for me to handle this is if you create a small
test document, run it with the current bib module, and write
down all that is wrong with it.

Best wishes,
Taco


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