Re: suggestions for MKIV

[Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>]

Peter Münster wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
>>> Since there is no more need, to keep compatibility with MKII (there are
>>> already a lot of differences), I suggest - for the benefit of beginners -
>>> to change at least 2 things:
>>>
>>> - let \framed or \externalfigure behave like \parbox and \includegraphics
>>> in LaTeX, i.e. no more need to put \dontleavehmode before the command
>>> (the current behaviour is just not very intuitive...)
>> no, no and no!
>>
>> \starttext
>> \placefigure{centered?}{\framed{vmode}}
>> \placefigure{centered?}{\dontleavehmode\framed{hmode}}
>> \stoptext
> 
> Hello Wolfgang,
> 
> I remember well your example. And again, it's more intuitive, if
> 
>                \placefigure{centered?}{test}
> and
>                \placefigure{centered?}{\framed{test}}
> and
>                \placefigure{centered?}{test \framed{test} test}
> 
> would behave the *same* way.
> 
> 
> There is no real problem for *me*, but it's very difficult to explain to a
> beginner (often coming from LaTeX), that here and there, a \dontleavehmode

\framed starts with a \bgroup which makes it possible to do

\setbox\vbox\framed

so we cannot change that without breaking things


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