Re: Fonts loaded

Re: Fonts loaded

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Hello Hans,

Thank you for --mode=*nofonts and detailed explanation.

The mode works well and reduces font loading time from 2.281 to 1.266 seconds!

Thankfully,
Vyatcheslav


> - you can try --mode=*nofonts but keep in mind that this is meant for
> special cases where styles are loaded immediately on the command line
>
> - it will not save much time; eventually we will have opentype lm math
> anyway; and half of those fonts are small anyway
>
> - it will result in errors when you don't immediately load a typeface
> especially if spacing is being set up
>
> - you need a math font because some symbols come from math (like bullets)
>
> - delaying math setup would result in way more overhead as then it needs
> to be set up inside math (and then it happens grouped)
>
> - also, reported problems resulting from not having load a base font set
> are unlikely to be looked into
>
> - as i keep optimnizing code, i expect the reported times to drop a bit
>    in the future;
>
> - a resident run might save some load time, but this is compensated by
> the need to reinitialize all subsystems (apart from a mess)
>
> - computers will become faster anyway and in most runs the startup time
> is small compared to the other runtime
>
>    

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Fonts loaded

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Hello Hans,

Sorry for my insistence, but...

mkiv lua stats : loaded fonts              - 37 files: 
lmmono10-regular.otf lmmono12-regular.otf lmmono8-regular.otf 
lmmono9-regular.otf lmroman10-bold.otf lmroman10-regular.otf 
lmroman12-bold.otf lmroman12-regular.otf lmroman7-bold.otf 
lmroman7-regular.otf lmroman9-bold.otf lmroman9-regular.otf 
lmsans10-regular.otf lmsans12-regular.otf lmsans8-regular.otf 
lmsans9-regular.otf eufb10.tfm eufb7.tfm eufm10.tfm eufm7.tfm msam10.tfm 
msam7.tfm msbm10.tfm msbm7.tfm lmex10.tfm lmmi10.tfm lmmi12.tfm 
lmmi7.tfm lmmi9.tfm lmmib10.tfm lmmib7.tfm lmsy10.tfm lmsy7.tfm 
lmsy9.tfm minionpro-bold.otf minionpro-it.otf minionpro-regular.otf

How can I get rid of all of these fonts except last three?

Vyatcheslav
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Re: Fonts loaded

[Hans Hagen]

Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> Hello Hans,
> 
> Sorry for my insistence, but...
> 
> mkiv lua stats : loaded fonts              - 37 files: 
> lmmono10-regular.otf lmmono12-regular.otf lmmono8-regular.otf 
> lmmono9-regular.otf lmroman10-bold.otf lmroman10-regular.otf 
> lmroman12-bold.otf lmroman12-regular.otf lmroman7-bold.otf 
> lmroman7-regular.otf lmroman9-bold.otf lmroman9-regular.otf 
> lmsans10-regular.otf lmsans12-regular.otf lmsans8-regular.otf 
> lmsans9-regular.otf eufb10.tfm eufb7.tfm eufm10.tfm eufm7.tfm msam10.tfm 
> msam7.tfm msbm10.tfm msbm7.tfm lmex10.tfm lmmi10.tfm lmmi12.tfm 
> lmmi7.tfm lmmi9.tfm lmmib10.tfm lmmib7.tfm lmsy10.tfm lmsy7.tfm 
> lmsy9.tfm minionpro-bold.otf minionpro-it.otf minionpro-regular.otf
> 
> How can I get rid of all of these fonts except last three?

- you can try --mode=*nofonts but keep in mind that this is meant for 
special cases where styles are loaded immediately on the command line

- it will not save much time; eventually we will have opentype lm math 
anyway; and half of those fonts are small anyway

- it will result in errors when you don't immediately load a typeface 
especially if spacing is being set up

- you need a math font because some symbols come from math (like bullets)

- delaying math setup would result in way more overhead as then it needs 
to be set up inside math (and then it happens grouped)

- also, reported problems resulting from not having load a base font set 
are unlikely to be looked into

- as i keep optimnizing code, i expect the reported times to drop a bit 
  in the future;

- a resident run might save some load time, but this is compensated by 
the need to reinitialize all subsystems (apart from a mess)

- computers will become faster anyway and in most runs the startup time 
is small compared to the other runtime

Hans

ps. it's no problem to get a 100-300 page per second througput for 
stupid documents but anything fancy will drop that to 1-20 pps

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