From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/53617 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Taco Hoekwater Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Page Numbering Hell Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:19:00 +0200 Message-ID: <4AE158E4.2040105@elvenkind.com> References: <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D6CE2B0@slcmail.slc.mew.int> <200910210913.55415.alan.braslau@cea.fr> <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D6CE2B9@slcmail.slc.mew.int> <200910211800.46075.alan.braslau@cea.fr> <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D6CE2DF@slcmail.slc.mew.int> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1256282413 27778 80.91.229.12 (23 Oct 2009 07:20:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:20:13 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Oct 23 09:20:06 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N1ERO-0000Zt-Lr for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:20:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7984EC9B1A; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:18:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ZsNAvpL0IpPt; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:18:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DEEC9AF9; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:18:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AFEC9B0D for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:18:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id w8cq5F0UcX4x for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:18:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from plane.elvenkind.com (elvenknd.xs4all.nl [82.95.203.226]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B62C9A70 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:18:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from glenlivet.elvenkind.com (glenlivet.elvenkind.com [10.10.0.6]) by plane.elvenkind.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5783802BE1A; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:19:00 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090319) In-Reply-To: <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D6CE2DF@slcmail.slc.mew.int> X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:53617 Archived-At: Hi, Bryant Eastham wrote: > > 1. Should I use mkii or mkiv? If mkii, then what should I plan on as > schedule for upgrading? > 2. Should I use context or texexec? As I understand, this is the same as > asking whether to use pdftex or luatex. It may also be related to the > mkii/mkiv issue, but I am less sure of that. The (new) version of context that runs on luatex is called mkiv, the (traditional) version that runs on pdftex as well as xetex is called mkii. There are two shell commands: texexec and context. Both of these can run either mkii (pdftex or xetex) or mkiv (luatex), but they have different defaults: 'texexec' defaults to mkii and 'context' defaults to mkiv. There are not a lot of core differences between mkii and mkiv, but there are a few. The big thing on the user side is that mkiv is totally based on Unicode and UTF-8, and knows how to do OpenType font processing. It follows that the commands that deal with input regimes and font encodings are either stubs or missing, there is a slightly longer list of differences here: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/MkIV_Differences I hope that answers your question. > 3. What *reference* material exists? I do not need a user guide. Right > now it has been Google. However, the solutions most recently mentioned > on the mailing lists seem to dead-end. I am fine with an answer of "see > the source code" if that is really it. The closest thing to a short reference is the command index (texshow-web) at contextgarden: http://texshow.contextgarden.net/ However, this is a community effort with a slight lack of actual community. The cont-en[pi].pdf is Hans' context manual, which was originally written in the nineties and is now slightly out of date. The foundry.supelec.fr project (contextref/context-reference) is a community attempt to update that manual. Best wishes, Taco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________