From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/53647 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Spam:*****, RE: Page Numbering Hell Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:57:11 +0200 Message-ID: <4AE2EB97.80202@wxs.nl> References: <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D6CE2B0@slcmail.slc.mew.int> <4C80A4C0-DBD4-4B7C-A9CB-A16265F22462@uni-bonn.de> <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D039292@slcmail.slc.mew.int> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1256457027 5622 80.91.229.12 (25 Oct 2009 07:50:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:50:27 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Oct 25 08:50:20 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N1xrm-0002kl-CK for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:50:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA82EC9CA7; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:45:27 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id HzGJvqIvFzGW; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:45:27 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88F2C9CA8; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:42:54 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03F1C9A70 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:56:11 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id QDBgd6Hr4LI2 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:56:09 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.solcon.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9129AC9A63 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:56:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.100; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-9 (SurgeMail 4.2a2) with ESMTP id 1888-1713362 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:56:51 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) In-Reply-To: <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D039292@slcmail.slc.mew.int> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:53647 Archived-At: Bryant Eastham wrote: > Thanks to others for their responses. I will try them out tomorrow, and > will be sure to collect all my hundreds of attempts for the amusement of > the group - maybe in hopes of atoning for my "rant". :-) one of the problems of tex is that (potential) users often first seen the end products and working backwards from what one sees of not easy with tex based systems another aspect is that it's easy to get some results but more complex demands need more complex solutions (hard coding each solution means even more need for manuals and finally not being able to locate an already given solution) concerning the fact that you have to make a decision for a longer span of time, it's good to know that tex is normally quite stable and has survived other systems quite well, and that's unlikely to change; and we have no intentions to quit development (after all, development of mkiv is taking quite some of our resourceses and will do so for the next couple of years) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________