From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/53691 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Page Numbering Hell Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:57:02 +0100 Message-ID: <4AE4673E.6020708@wxs.nl> References: <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D6CE2B0@slcmail.slc.mew.int> <200910210913.55415.alan.braslau@cea.fr> <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D6CE2B9@slcmail.slc.mew.int> <1ea4ae670910220103j7d3d027dpc0e5f76644b837d1@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1256482644 2628 80.91.229.12 (25 Oct 2009 14:57:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:57:24 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Oct 25 15:57:16 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N24Wu-0000dQ-2L for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:57:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C632C9AC1; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:56:06 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id BhjqCRZtjn5h; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:56:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C642C9A8A; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:56:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2243C9A8A for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:56:00 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id VX1Qom2DNmj7 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:55:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.solcon.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449F7C9A70 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:55:58 +0100 (CET) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.100; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-9 (SurgeMail 4.2a2) with ESMTP id 2188-1713362 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:56:41 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) In-Reply-To: <1ea4ae670910220103j7d3d027dpc0e5f76644b837d1@mail.gmail.com> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:53691 Archived-At: Bo=9Atjan Vesnicer wrote: > for me it is actually very obvious an easy to understand the situation > about missing documentation. In my opinion there are a couple of > reasons for that: > - The gurus don't have time to write the documentation since they have > more important things to do, i.e. implementing features. indeed; and since we also have to make a living, sometimes demands of = projects get priority > - Documentation (in a form of a manual) is of the most value to the > newbies, but they can't write a manual by themselves about something > they dont't know much about. So they ask for the documentation on the > mailing list, but they eventually find out that the up-to-date > documentation is missing and they start to use other sources of > information (wiki, mailing list, source code etc.). They learn slowly, > but at the end (if they persist long enough) they know enough that > they maybe could write a manual. However, they don't really need the > manual any more so they decide not to write one. (Paradoxical > situation, I know.) good point ... also, writing a manual helps oncovering inconsistencies; = a variant on manuals is writing articles (e.f. for tex user group = magazines) > - The key is in the motivation. If you want better documentation, you > have to figure out how to convince the gurus to write one. 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