footnote-number alignment

footnote-number alignment

[achim]

Hello,
after struggling some weeks to get everything to work, i'm now
nearly satisfied with typsetting via context. But there is one
problem left for that i cant find any solution, even after googling
for hours.
I am typesetting documents with a large amount of footnotes, and
want to have the footnote-number aligned to the correct decimal place.
To explain:
page one has footnotes 1 to 8, numbers are left-aligned, everything is good

-----
1 footnotetext
2 footnotetext
3 footnottext
....
8 footnotetext

page two has footnotes 9 to 12, so I want to have

 9 footnotetext
10 footnotetext
...

but i only get:
9 footnotetext
10 foootnotextex.

I think, there is no easy solution, but maybe someone can give me a push
to the direction how i can realize that behaviour (btw same problem is with
numbered lists)
Any hint is welcome,

Thanks a lot
Achim Jander





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Re: footnote-number alignment

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:09 PM, achim@jander.de wrote:

> Hello,
> after struggling some weeks to get everything to work, i'm now
> nearly satisfied with typsetting via context. But there is one
> problem left for that i cant find any solution, even after googling
> for hours.
> I am typesetting documents with a large amount of footnotes, and
> want to have the footnote-number aligned to the correct decimal place.
> To explain:
> page one has footnotes 1 to 8, numbers are left-aligned, everything  
> is good
>
> -----
> 1 footnotetext
> 2 footnotetext
> 3 footnottext
> ....
> 8 footnotetext
>
> page two has footnotes 9 to 12, so I want to have
>
> 9 footnotetext
> 10 footnotetext
> ...
>
> but i only get:
> 9 footnotetext
> 10 foootnotextex.
>
> I think, there is no easy solution, but maybe someone can give me a  
> push
> to the direction how i can realize that behaviour (btw same problem  
> is with
> numbered lists)
> Any hint is welcome,

Your ASCII art doesn't really show what you're after, but from your  
description, you could try something like this (I too have searched  
for this, and I don't think there is an easier solution; maybe  
something like this should go into the core):

\def\NoteNumber#1{\hbox to 14pt{\hbox to 8pt{\strut\hfill #1}}}

\setupnotedefinition[footnote][location=left,hang=0]

\setupfootnotes[align={normal,hanging},
		numbercommand=\NoteNumber]

HTH

Thomas


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Re: footnote-number alignment

[Taco Hoekwater]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> 
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:09 PM, achim@jander.de wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> after struggling some weeks to get everything to work, i'm now
>> nearly satisfied with typsetting via context. But there is one
>> problem left for that i cant find any solution, even after googling
>> for hours.
>> I am typesetting documents with a large amount of footnotes, and
>> want to have the footnote-number aligned to the correct decimal place.
>> To explain:
>> page one has footnotes 1 to 8, numbers are left-aligned, everything is 
>> good
>>
>> -----
>> 1 footnotetext
>> 2 footnotetext
>> 3 footnottext
>> ....
>> 8 footnotetext
>>
>> page two has footnotes 9 to 12, so I want to have
>>
>>  9 footnotetext
>> 10 footnotetext
>> ...
>>
>> but i only get:
>> 9 footnotetext
>> 10 foootnotextex.
>>
>> I think, there is no easy solution, but maybe someone can give me a push
>> to the direction how i can realize that behaviour (btw same problem is 
>> with numbered lists)

I do not think you can get this:

1 footnotetext
2 footnotetext

and then

~9 footnotetext
10 footnotetext

The best you can have (afaik) is:


~1 footnotetext
~2 footnotetext

and then

~9 footnotetext
10 footnotetext


It should be relatively simple for you to tweak Wolfgang's solution to
do that.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: footnote-number alignment

[Hans Hagen]

achim@jander.de wrote:
> Hello,
> after struggling some weeks to get everything to work, i'm now
> nearly satisfied with typsetting via context. But there is one
> problem left for that i cant find any solution, even after googling
> for hours.
> I am typesetting documents with a large amount of footnotes, and
> want to have the footnote-number aligned to the correct decimal place.
> To explain:
> page one has footnotes 1 to 8, numbers are left-aligned, everything is good
> 
> -----
> 1 footnotetext
> 2 footnotetext
> 3 footnottext
> .....
> 8 footnotetext
> 
> page two has footnotes 9 to 12, so I want to have
> 
>  9 footnotetext
> 10 footnotetext
> ....
> 
> but i only get:
> 9 footnotetext
> 10 foootnotextex.
> 
> I think, there is no easy solution, but maybe someone can give me a push
> to the direction how i can realize that behaviour (btw same problem is with
> numbered lists)
> Any hint is welcome,

as the relevant info is present deep down in context i can imagine a 
solution but it's not a 5 minutes job

Hans

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Re: footnote-number alignment

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Oct 25, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
>
> It should be relatively simple for you to tweak Wolfgang's solution to
> do that.
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco

Hmm, should I feel honored that Taco takes my code for Wolfgang's or  
deplore that all the good replies are attributed to Wolfgang  
automatically? That's a tough one :-)

Thomas
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Re: footnote-number alignment

[Taco Hoekwater]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> 
> On Oct 25, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
>> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>>
>>
>> It should be relatively simple for you to tweak Wolfgang's solution to
>> do that.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Taco
> 
> Hmm, should I feel honored that Taco takes my code for Wolfgang's or 
> deplore that all the good replies are attributed to Wolfgang 
> automatically? That's a tough one :-)

Next meeting, I owe you a beer.

Bet wishes,
Taco
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Re: footnote-number alignment

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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Am 25.10.2009 um 16:00 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> achim@jander.de wrote:
>> I am typesetting documents with a large amount of footnotes, and
>> want to have the footnote-number aligned to the correct decimal  
>> place.
>
> as the relevant info is present deep down in context i can imagine a  
> solution but it's not a 5 minutes job

fix the text/title alignment in descriptions and right aligned numbers  
are possible

strc-des.mkiv:

@@ -334,6 +334,7 @@
          {\dodescriptionhandler
             {\vtop
                {\hsize\dimexpr\descriptionsheadwidth- 
\descriptionsheaddistance\relax
+               \doifsomething{\descriptionparameter\c!align} 
{\setupalign[\descriptionparameter\c!align]}%
                 \begstrut\descriptionparameter\c!text\ignorespaces 
\currentdescriptiontext\endstrut}}}}%
     \doifelse{\descriptionparameter\c!aligntitle}\v!no
       {\leftdescriptionskip\leftskip\rightdescriptionskip\rightskip}

Wolfgang


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Re: footnote-number alignment

[Hans Hagen]

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
> Am 25.10.2009 um 16:00 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> 
>> achim@jander.de <mailto:achim@jander.de> wrote:
>>> I am typesetting documents with a large amount of footnotes, and
>>> want to have the footnote-number aligned to the correct decimal place.
>>
>> as the relevant info is present deep down in context i can imagine a 
>> solution but it's not a 5 minutes job
> 
> fix the text/title alignment in descriptions and right aligned numbers 
> are possible
> 
> strc-des.mkiv:
> 
> @@ -334,6 +334,7 @@
>          {\dodescriptionhandler
>             {\vtop
>                
> {\hsize\dimexpr\descriptionsheadwidth-\descriptionsheaddistance\relax
> +               
> \doifsomething{\descriptionparameter\c!align}{\setupalign[\descriptionparameter\c!align]}%
>                
>  \begstrut\descriptionparameter\c!text\ignorespaces\currentdescriptiontext\endstrut}}}}%
>     \doifelse{\descriptionparameter\c!aligntitle}\v!no
>       {\leftdescriptionskip\leftskip\rightdescriptionskip\rightskip}

hm, but isn't align meant for the main text then? i must look up that one

anyhow, i thought that the alignment had to do with:

  1
  2
10

and

1
2
3

i.e. less width in the case of < 10 which can be done using first/last 
on page numbers

Hans


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Re: footnote-number alignment

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 25.10.2009 um 21:30 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> hm, but isn't align meant for the main text then? i must look up  
> that one

there are two \setupalign commands in the source and both are written  
in macros
to place the descripton text (but did not work), how about 'headalign'  
then, it's
mentioned in the following example from the source

% list and titles are experimental
%
% \definedescription[test] [location=left,hang=4,headalign= 
{right},distance=1em,list=test]

> anyhow, i thought that the alignment had to do with:
>
> 1
> 2
> 10
>
> and
>
> 1
> 2
> 3
>
> i.e. less width in the case of < 10 which can be done using first/ 
> last on page numbers

what do you mean?

Wolfgang

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Re: footnote-number alignment

[Hans Hagen]

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> 
> what do you mean?

123|
    |
  1 xxxxxx
  2 xxxxxx
10 xxxxxx

vs

12|
   |
1 xxxxxx
2 xxxxxx


so, an adaptive width (same can be said for itemize, kind of auto-broad
behaviour)

Hans

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