MK II ( \mainlanguage[fr] && \useencoding[ffr] )+ mpost

MK II ( \mainlanguage[fr] && \useencoding[ffr] )+ mpost

[aubin]

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Hello,
 I'm trying to compile a product of a complex structure (env +
project + product).
 - My useMPgraphics are included in a product using input
 - My environment starts with :
     enableregime[utf8]
     useencoding[ffr]
     mainlanguage[fr]
 just before startenvironment (else the horizontal spacing are not ok
for my products, compiled as standalone documents)
 As is, the metapost processing halts on 
 ! Illegal suffix of declared variable will be flushed.
                    {
 l.149 path theshapemathortext {
                                 ;}{;}
 If I comment out *only* mainlanguage[fr], metapost's processings are
OK but I have english labels (Content, Chapter...) instead of french
ones (obviously).
 If I comment out *only* useencoding[ffr], metapost's processing
areOK but horizontal spacing for punctation are not OK (i.e. with
respect to french typographic standards).
 My question is : how I can obtain french labels + french punctuation
SIMULTANEOUSLY ;)
 I use the up-to-date context/metapost from minimals... And I can't
use MK IV since I need t-vim...
 (useencoding[ffr] is not known by MK IV as typeSTUFF from t-vim)
 Renaud
  

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Re: MK II ( \mainlanguage[fr] && \useencoding[ffr] )+ mpost

[Hans Hagen]

aubin@nibua-r.org wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to compile a product of a complex structure (env + project + 
> product).
> 
> - My useMPgraphics are included in a product using \input
> - My environment starts with :
>     \enableregime[utf8]
>     \useencoding[ffr]
>     \mainlanguage[fr]
> just before \startenvironment (else the horizontal spacing are not ok 
> for my products, compiled as standalone documents)
> 
> As is, the metapost processing halts on
> ! Illegal suffix of declared variable will be flushed.
> <to be read again>
>                    {
> l.149 path theshape\mathortext {
>                                 ;}{;}
> 

what happens if you put \string in front of : and ;


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Re: MK II ( \mainlanguage[fr] && \useencoding[ffr] )+ mpost

[Hans Hagen]

Renaud AUBIN wrote:

> OK, since I don't know the behavior of \setupcharacterspacing, the
> following question may seem stupid to you:
> How the following string will be processed « Did you notice that real
> NO-BREAK SPACE chars are already there? »

why not just try it

currently only intermediate kerns, glue and spacing characters are 
considered

> More over, since I have just forgotten my « Lexique des règles
> typographiques en usage à l'imprimerie nationale »at work, I have to
> wait the morrow to confirm the fact that some use of U+202F NARROW
> NO-BREAK SPACE are necessary. Same question as the previous one applies
> when NNBSP are already there…

it depends to what extend you want context to clean up and optimize 
spacing; it can be that 202F is there for other purposes (and maybe not 
even consistently used as it is kind of invisible); so it should 
probababluy configurable (we have already some modes)

> And the last question of the day ;) : … expends to . . . with
> french. Could that be easily corrected?

probably, but first i want proper specs on which most french users agree 
(so i do an extra cc to arthur who is sort of in charge of the french 
tex users)

> (This flow of question comes from my recent experiments of the advanced
> capabilities of bépo fr keyboard plus .XCompose usage).

Hans

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