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* ZapfinoPro triggers LuaTeX error with umlauts (äüö)
@ 2009-12-04 14:00 Bernhard Rosensteiner
  2009-12-04 14:15 ` Hans Hagen
  2009-12-04 15:31 ` Taco Hoekwater
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bernhard Rosensteiner @ 2009-12-04 14:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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("/Users/Bernhard/Documents/ConTeXt Experimente/ZapfinoExtraLTProTest/ZapfinoTest"

ConTeXt  ver: 2009.12.03 00:41 MKIV  fmt: 2009.12.3  int: english/english

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%	\startluacode
%	document = document or { }
%	document.arguments={
%	}
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language        : language en is active
system          : module calcmath (mkiv) loaded
(/Applications/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/x-calcmath.mkiv) (type-MyTypeScript.tex)

systems         : BEWARE: syntex functionality is enabled!

systems         : begin file ZapfinoTest at line 35
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) )</Users/Bernhard/Library/Fonts/ZapfinoExtraLTPro.otf
LuaTeX warning (file /Users/Bernhard/Library/Fonts/ZapfinoExtraLTPro.otf): "seac" character deprecated in Type 2 charstring.

!LuaTeX error (file /Users/Bernhard/Library/Fonts/ZapfinoExtraLTPro.otf): Type2 Charstring Parser: Parsing charstring failed: (status=-1, stack=5)
 ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

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%------------------------------ My Typescripts ------------------------------%

\starttypescript [math] [asana] [name] 
\definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [name:Asana-Math] [features=math\mathsizesuffix] 
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [script] [calligraphic] [name] 
\definefontsynonym [calligraphic] [name:ZapfinoExtraLTPro] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [calligraphic-caps] [name:ZapfinoExtraLT-SmallCaps] [features=default]
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\starttypescript [sans] [myriad-pro] [name]

  \definefontsynonym [Sans]                [name:MyriadPro-Regular] 
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]            [name:MyriadPro-Bold]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]          [name:MyriadPro-It]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic]      [name:MyriadPro-BoldIt]
  \definefontsynonym [SansSemiBold]        [name:MyriadPro-Semibold]
  \definefontsynonym [SansSemiBoldItalic]  [name:MyriadPro-SemiboldIt]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBlack]           [name:MyriadPro-Black]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBlackItalic]     [name:MyriadPro-BlackIt]
  \definefontsynonym [SansLight]           [name:MyriadPro-Light]
  \definefontsynonym [SansLightItalic]     [name:MyriadPro-LightIt]

  \definefontsynonym [SansSemiCondensed]              [name:MyriadPro-SemiCn]
  \definefontsynonym [SansSemiCondensedBold]          [name:MyriadPro-BoldSemiCn]
  \definefontsynonym [SansSemiCondensedItalic]        [name:MyriadPro-SemiCnIt]
  \definefontsynonym [SansSemiCondensedBoldItalic]    [name:MyriadPro-BoldCondIt]
  \definefontsynonym [SansSemiCondensedSemiBold]      [name:MyriadPro-SemiboldSemiCn]
  \definefontsynonym [SansSemiCondensedSemiBoldItalic][name:MyriadPro-SemiboldSemiCnIt]
  \definefontsynonym [SansSemiCondensedBlack]         [name:MyriadPro-BlackSemiCn]
  \definefontsynonym [SansSemiCondensedBlackItalic]   [name:MyriadPro-BlackSemiCnIt]
  \definefontsynonym [SansSemiCondensedLight]         [name:MyriadPro-LightCond]
  \definefontsynonym [SansSemiCondensedLightItalic]   [name:MyriadPro-LightCondIt]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [minion-pro] 
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  \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]       [SerifRegular-Bold]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic]     [SerifRegular-Italic]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [SerifRegular-BoldItalic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [minion-pro] [name]

  \definefontsynonym [SerifCaption-Regular]         [name:MinionPro-Capt]       [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifCaption-Bold]            [name:MinionPro-BoldCapt]   [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifCaption-Italic]          [name:MinionPro-ItCapt]     [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifCaption-BoldItalic]      [name:MinionPro-BoldItCapt] [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifCaption-CapsRegular]    [name:MinionPro-Capt]       [features=smallcaps]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifCaption-CapsBold]       [name:MinionPro-BoldCapt]   [features=smallcaps]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifCaption-CapsItalic]     [name:MinionPro-ItCapt]     [features=smallcaps]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifCaption-CapsBoldItalic] [name:MinionPro-BoldItCapt] [features=smallcaps]
  

  \definefontsynonym [SerifRegular-Regular]         [name:MinionPro-Regular] [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifRegular-Bold]            [name:MinionPro-Bold]    [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifRegular-Italic]          [name:MinionPro-It]      [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifRegular-BoldItalic]      [name:MinionPro-BoldIt]  [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifRegular-CapsRegular]    [name:MinionPro-Regular] [features=smallcaps]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifRegular-CapsBold]       [name:MinionPro-Bold]    [features=smallcaps]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifRegular-CapsItalic]     [name:MinionPro-It]      [features=smallcaps]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifRegular-CapsBoldItalic] [name:MinionPro-BoldIt]  [features=smallcaps]

  \definefontsynonym [SerifSubhead-Regular]         [name:MinionPro-Subh]       [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifSubhead-Bold]            [name:MinionPro-BoldSubh]   [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifSubhead-Italic]          [name:MinionPro-ItSubh]     [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifSubhead-BoldItalic]      [name:MinionPro-BoldItSubh] [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifSubhead-CapsRegular]    [name:MinionPro-Subh]       [features=smallcaps]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifSubhead-CapsBold]       [name:MinionPro-BoldSubh]   [features=smallcaps]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifSubhead-CapsItalic]     [name:MinionPro-ItSubh]     [features=smallcaps]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifSubhead-CapsBoldItalic] [name:MinionPro-BoldItSubh] [features=smallcaps]
  

  \definefontsynonym [SerifDisplay-Regular]         [name:MinionPro-Disp]       [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifDisplay-Bold]            [name:MinionPro-BoldDisp]   [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifDisplay-Italic]          [name:MinionPro-ItDisp]     [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifDisplay-BoldItalic]      [name:MinionPro-BoldItDisp] [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifDisplay-CapsRegular]    [name:MinionPro-Disp]       [features=smallcaps]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifDisplay-CapsBold]       [name:MinionPro-BoldDisp]   [features=smallcaps]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifDisplay-CapsItalic]     [name:MinionPro-ItDisp]     [features=smallcaps]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifDisplay-CapsBoldItalic] [name:MinionPro-BoldItDisp] [features=smallcaps]

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  \definebodyfontenvironment [minionmyriad][4pt]
    [\s!text=4pt,\s!script=4pt,\s!scriptscript=4pt,
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  \definebodyfontenvironment [minionmyriad][5pt]
    [\s!text=5pt,\s!script=5pt,\s!scriptscript=5pt,
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  \definebodyfontenvironment [minionmyriad][6pt]
    [\s!text=6pt,\s!script=5pt,\s!scriptscript=5pt,
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  \definebodyfontenvironment [minionmyriad][7pt]
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  \definebodyfontenvironment [minionmyriad][12pt]
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  \definebodyfontenvironment [minionmyriad][13pt]
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  \definebodyfontenvironment [minionmyriad][14pt]
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     \c!x=12pt,\c!xx=10pt,\c!big=16pt,\c!small=12pt]

  \definebodyfontenvironment [minionmyriad][16pt]
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	     \c!x=16pt,\c!xx=14pt,\c!big=22pt,\c!small=16pt]
	
  \definebodyfontenvironment [minionmyriad][20pt]
	    [\s!text=20pt,\s!script=18pt,\s!scriptscript=16pt,
		 \c!x=18pt,\c!xx=16pt,\c!big=24pt,\c!small=18pt]

  \definebodyfontenvironment [minionmyriad][22pt]
	    [\s!text=22pt,\s!script=20pt,\s!scriptscript=18pt,
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  \definebodyfontenvironment [minionmyriad][24pt]
			    [\s!text=24pt,\s!script=22pt,\s!scriptscript=20pt,
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			    [\s!text=26pt,\s!script=24pt,\s!scriptscript=22pt,
			     \c!x=22pt,\c!xx=20pt,\c!big=32pt,\c!small=22pt]

  \definebodyfontenvironment [minionmyriad][28pt]
	    [\s!text=28pt,\s!script=26pt,\s!scriptscript=24pt,
	     \c!x=24pt,\c!xx=18pt,\c!big=32pt,\c!small=22pt]
	
  \definebodyfontenvironment [minionmyriad][30pt]
			    [\s!text=30pt,\s!script=28pt,\s!scriptscript=26pt,
			     \c!x=24pt,\c!xx=20pt,\c!big=34pt,\c!small=24pt]
	
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [opticals] [size]
  \definebodyfont [4pt,5pt,6pt,7pt,8pt] [rm] 
    [tf=SerifCaption-Regular      sa 1,
     bf=SerifCaption-Bold         sa 1,
     it=SerifCaption-Italic       sa 1,
     bi=SerifCaption-BoldItalic   sa 1,
     sc=SerifCaption-CapsRegular     sa 1,
     scit=SerifCaption-CapsItalic     sa 1,
     scb=SerifCaption-CapsBold     sa 1,
     scbit=SerifCaption-CapsBoldItalic     sa 1]

  \definebodyfont [9pt,10pt,11pt,12pt,13pt] [rm] 
    [tf=SerifRegular-Regular      sa 1,
     bf=SerifRegular-Bold         sa 1,
     it=SerifRegular-Italic       sa 1,
     bi=SerifRegular-BoldItalic   sa 1,
     sc=SerifRegular-CapsRegular   sa 1,
     scit=SerifRegular-CapsItalic   sa 1,
     scbf=SerifRegular-CapsBold    sa 1,
	 scbfit=SerifRegular-CapsBoldItalic sa 1]

  \definebodyfont [14pt,16pt,18pt,20pt] [rm] 
    [tf=SerifSubhead-Regular      sa 1,
     bf=SerifSubhead-Bold         sa 1,
     it=SerifSubhead-Italic       sa 1,
     bi=SerifSubhead-BoldItalic   sa 1,
     sc=SerifSubhead-CapsRegular    sa 1,
     scit=SerifSubhead-CapsItalic     sa 1,
     scbf=SerifSubhead-CapsBold     sa 1,
     scbfit=SerifSubhead-CapsBoldItalic     sa 1]

  \definebodyfont[22pt,24pt,26pt,28pt,30pt] [rm] 
    [tf=SerifDisplay-Regular      sa 1,
     bf=SerifDisplay-Bold         sa 1,
     it=SerifDisplay-Italic       sa 1,
     bi=SerifDisplay-BoldItalic   sa 1,
     sc=SerifDisplay-CapsRegular     sa 1,
     scit=SerifDisplay-CapsItalic     sa 1,
     scbf=SerifDisplay-CapsBold     sa 1,
     scbfit=SerifDisplay-CapsBoldItalic     sa 1]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[all] [normal] [size]
\definebodyfont[4pt,5pt,6pt,7pt,8pt,9pt,10pt,11pt,12pt,13pt,14pt,16pt,18pt,20pt,22pt,24pt,26pt,28pt,30pt] [ss]
    [tf=Sans      sa 1,
     bf=SansBold         sa 1,
     it=SansItalic       sa 1,
     bi=SansBoldItalic   sa 1]

\definebodyfont[4pt,5pt,6pt,7pt,8pt,9pt,10pt,11pt,12pt,13pt,14pt,16pt,18pt,20pt,22pt,24pt,26pt,28pt,30pt] [cg]
	    [tf=calligraphic   sa 1,
	     sc=calligraphic-caps sa 1]
\stoptypescript

%typefaces:
\starttypescript [MinionProMyriadPro]
    \definetypeface [minionmyriad] [mm] [math] [asana] [default]
    \definetypeface [minionmyriad] [cg] [script] [calligraphic] [normal]
    \definetypeface [minionmyriad] [tt] [mono] [myriad-pro]  [default]
	\definetypeface [minionmyriad] [ss] [sans] [myriad-pro]  [normal]
	\definetypeface [minionmyriad] [rm] [serif] [minion-pro] [opticals]
\stoptypescript

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\synctex=1
\usemodule[calcmath]
\mainlanguage[de]
\preloadtypescripts
\setuplayout[grid=no, backspace=2.6cm, leftmargin=2cm, rightmargin=2cm,
 topspace=1cm, top=0cm, bottom=\headerheight, width=middle, height=fit, headerdistance=0.5cm, 
header=1cm, footer=1cm, margindistance=0.3cm]

%---------- font-features ----------%
\definefontfeature[default][script=latn, mode=node, tlig=yes, trep=yes, cpsp=yes, salt=no, size=yes, 
protrusion=quality, expansion=quality, script=latn, kern=yes, liga=yes, itlc=yes, onum=no] 
\definefontfeature[aalt][default][aalt=yes]
\definefontfeature[smallcaps][default][smcp=yes]
\definefontfeature[medivial][default][onum=yes]
\setupfontexpansion[quality][stretch=2.5, shrink=2.5, step=.5, vector=quality, factor=1]
\setupfontprotrusion[quality][vector=quality, left=1, right=1]
\setuptolerance[verytolerant,stretch]
\setupalign[hanging, hz]

\setuppagenumbering[location=]

\usetypescriptfile[type-MyTypeScript]
\usetypescript[MinionProMyriadPro]

\definefont[myfontzapf][ZapfinoExtraLTPro*default]

\setupalign[hz, hanging]




\setupbodyfont[minionmyriad, 18pt]
\tracetypescriptstrue

\starttext
Zapfino Test.  ÄÜÖäüö

\cg
M Mr Mr. H He Her Herm Herma Herman Hermann Z Za Zap Zapf ä

 1/4

 Mr. Hermann Zapf


fiets effe flater triest troef syntehesis h.1 h.2 h.3 1/4 

ff iff \myfontzapf 1/4 ff iff 


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Hello all,

the subject says it all. Please see attachement.
Another question: How can i easily access the stylisticsets in Zapfino? Have i to define fontfeatures for each set or is there a other way?

best regards
Bernhard


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* Re:  ZapfinoPro triggers LuaTeX error with umlauts (äüö)
  2009-12-04 14:00 ZapfinoPro triggers LuaTeX error with umlauts (äüö) Bernhard Rosensteiner
@ 2009-12-04 14:15 ` Hans Hagen
  2009-12-04 14:33   ` Bernhard Rosensteiner
  2009-12-04 15:31 ` Taco Hoekwater
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-12-04 14:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> the subject says it all. Please see attachement.

umlauts? the file does not load at all

> Another question: How can i easily access the stylisticsets in Zapfino? Have i to define fontfeatures for each set or is there a other way?

just enable them (<feature>=1..N)


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* Re:  ZapfinoPro triggers LuaTeX error with umlauts (äüö)
  2009-12-04 14:15 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2009-12-04 14:33   ` Bernhard Rosensteiner
  2009-12-04 14:58     ` Hans Hagen
  2009-12-04 15:04     ` Wolfgang Schuster
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bernhard Rosensteiner @ 2009-12-04 14:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

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ok, i´ve skipped the typescriptfile maybe it´s easier to see where the problem lies.
When i use ä, ü or ö  i get an error but without umlauts all works ok.


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\synctex=1
\usemodule[calcmath]
\mainlanguage[de]
\preloadtypescripts
\setuplayout[grid=no, backspace=2.6cm, leftmargin=2cm, rightmargin=2cm,
 topspace=1cm, top=0cm, bottom=\headerheight, width=middle, height=fit, headerdistance=0.5cm, 
header=1cm, footer=1cm, margindistance=0.3cm]

%---------- font-features ----------%
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\setuppagenumbering[location=]

\usetypescriptfile[type-MyTypeScript]
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\cg
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fiets effe flater triest troef syntehesis h.1 h.2 h.3 1/4 

ff iff \myfontzapf 1/4 ff iff 


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Am 04.12.2009 um 15:15 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> the subject says it all. Please see attachement.
> 
> umlauts? the file does not load at all
> 
>> Another question: How can i easily access the stylisticsets in Zapfino? Have i to define fontfeatures for each set or is there a other way?
> 
> just enable them (<feature>=1..N)
> 
> 
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* Re:  ZapfinoPro triggers LuaTeX error with umlauts (äüö)
  2009-12-04 14:33   ` Bernhard Rosensteiner
@ 2009-12-04 14:58     ` Hans Hagen
  2009-12-04 15:09       ` Bernhard Rosensteiner
  2009-12-04 15:04     ` Wolfgang Schuster
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-12-04 14:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote:
> ok, i´ve skipped the typescriptfile maybe it´s easier to see where the problem lies.
> When i use ä, ü or ö  i get an error but without umlauts all works ok.
LuaTeX warning (file 
/Users/Bernhard/Library/Fonts/ZapfinoExtraLTPro.otf): "seac" character 
deprecated in Type 2 charstring.

!LuaTeX error (file 
/Users/Bernhard/Library/Fonts/ZapfinoExtraLTPro.otf): Type2 Charstring 
Parser: Parsing charstring failed: (status=-1, stack=5)
  ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

none of the pdf files is ok ... i cannot test your tex file now as my 
luatex is broken this afternoon

Hans

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* Re:  ZapfinoPro triggers LuaTeX error with umlauts (äüö)
  2009-12-04 14:33   ` Bernhard Rosensteiner
  2009-12-04 14:58     ` Hans Hagen
@ 2009-12-04 15:04     ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2009-12-04 16:23       ` Bernhard Rosensteiner
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Am 04.12.2009 um 15:33 schrieb Bernhard Rosensteiner:

> ok, i´ve skipped the typescriptfile maybe it´s easier to see where the problem lies.
> When i use ä, ü or ö  i get an error but without umlauts all works ok.


Can you check this example:

\definefontfeature[zapfino][default][script=latn,mode=node,calt=yes,clig=yes,liga=yes,rlig=yes,tlig=yes]

%\definefont[zapfino][name:zapfino*zapfino]
\definefont[zapfino][file:ZapfinoExtraLTPro]

\define[1]\zapfinoexample
  {\page
   \bgroup
   \definefontfeature[#1][default][mode=node,script=latn,#1=yes]
   \zapfino\addff{#1}\input knuth\par
   \egroup}

\starttext

\zapfino

%Z Za Zap Zapf Zapfi Zapfin Zapfino

%ÄÖÜäöüß

\processcommalist[ss01,ss02,ss03,ss04,ss05,ss06,ss07,ss08,ss09,ss10,ss11,ss12,ss13,ss14,ss15,ss16,ss17,ss18,ss19,ss20]\zapfinoexample

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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* Re:  ZapfinoPro triggers LuaTeX error with umlauts (äüö)
  2009-12-04 14:58     ` Hans Hagen
@ 2009-12-04 15:09       ` Bernhard Rosensteiner
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From: Bernhard Rosensteiner @ 2009-12-04 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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i can open all pdf´s i´ve sent - strange. However i will not interrupt you now because you have more important things to do

best regards
Bernhard
Am 04.12.2009 um 15:58 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote:
>> ok, i´ve skipped the typescriptfile maybe it´s easier to see where the problem lies.
>> When i use ä, ü or ö  i get an error but without umlauts all works ok.
> LuaTeX warning (file /Users/Bernhard/Library/Fonts/ZapfinoExtraLTPro.otf): "seac" character deprecated in Type 2 charstring.
> 
> !LuaTeX error (file /Users/Bernhard/Library/Fonts/ZapfinoExtraLTPro.otf): Type2 Charstring Parser: Parsing charstring failed: (status=-1, stack=5)
> ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
> 
> none of the pdf files is ok ... i cannot test your tex file now as my luatex is broken this afternoon
> 
> Hans
> 
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* Re:  ZapfinoPro triggers LuaTeX error with umlauts (äüö)
  2009-12-04 14:00 ZapfinoPro triggers LuaTeX error with umlauts (äüö) Bernhard Rosensteiner
  2009-12-04 14:15 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2009-12-04 15:31 ` Taco Hoekwater
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Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> the subject says it all. Please see attachement.

Which version of luatex are you using?

(works for me: luatex prerelease 0.47.0, linux/i386)

Best wishes,
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* Re:  ZapfinoPro triggers LuaTeX error with umlauts (äüö)
  2009-12-04 15:04     ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2009-12-04 16:23       ` Bernhard Rosensteiner
  2009-12-04 16:31         ` Taco Hoekwater
  2009-12-04 16:53         ` Lutz Haseloff
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From: Bernhard Rosensteiner @ 2009-12-04 16:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 04.12.2009 um 16:04 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

> 
> Am 04.12.2009 um 15:33 schrieb Bernhard Rosensteiner:
> 
>> ok, i´ve skipped the typescriptfile maybe it´s easier to see where the problem lies.
>> When i use ä, ü or ö  i get an error but without umlauts all works ok.
> 
> 
> Can you check this example:
> 
> \definefontfeature[zapfino][default][script=latn,mode=node,calt=yes,clig=yes,liga=yes,rlig=yes,tlig=yes]
> 
> %\definefont[zapfino][name:zapfino*zapfino]
> \definefont[zapfino][file:ZapfinoExtraLTPro]
> 
> \define[1]\zapfinoexample
>  {\page
>   \bgroup
>   \definefontfeature[#1][default][mode=node,script=latn,#1=yes]
>   \zapfino\addff{#1}\input knuth\par
>   \egroup}
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \zapfino
> 
> %Z Za Zap Zapf Zapfi Zapfin Zapfino
> 
> %ÄÖÜäöüß
> 
> \processcommalist[ss01,ss02,ss03,ss04,ss05,ss06,ss07,ss08,ss09,ss10,ss11,ss12,ss13,ss14,ss15,ss16,ss17,ss18,ss19,ss20]\zapfinoexample
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> Wolfgang

this example processes normaly (i get 20 pages  with the stylistic sets) but when i put an umlaut before \stoptext there is the same error as before.


Which version of luatex are you using?

(works for me: luatex prerelease 0.47.0, linux/i386)

Best wishes,
Taco

i use: LuaTeX, Version beta-0.46.0-2009112909, MacOSX 10.6.2 

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* Re:  ZapfinoPro triggers LuaTeX error with umlauts (äüö)
  2009-12-04 16:23       ` Bernhard Rosensteiner
@ 2009-12-04 16:31         ` Taco Hoekwater
  2009-12-04 17:56           ` Bernhard Rosensteiner
  2009-12-04 16:53         ` Lutz Haseloff
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Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote:
> 
> i use: LuaTeX, Version beta-0.46.0-2009112909, MacOSX 10.6.2 

Different font maybe? Mine is 396992 bytes, dated Jun 23 2007,
version 001.001.

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* Re:  ZapfinoPro triggers LuaTeX error with umlauts (äüö)
  2009-12-04 16:23       ` Bernhard Rosensteiner
  2009-12-04 16:31         ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2009-12-04 16:53         ` Lutz Haseloff
  2009-12-04 16:59           ` luigi scarso
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From: Lutz Haseloff @ 2009-12-04 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi all,

I had the same error until I loaded the otf into fontforge and then saved again as otf.

Greetings Lutz
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* Re:  ZapfinoPro triggers LuaTeX error with umlauts (äüö)
  2009-12-04 16:53         ` Lutz Haseloff
@ 2009-12-04 16:59           ` luigi scarso
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From: luigi scarso @ 2009-12-04 16:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Lutz Haseloff
<lutz.haseloff@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I had the same error until I loaded the otf into fontforge and then saved again as otf.

What does ttx says ?
(if you have ttx ,of course)
-- 
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* Re:  ZapfinoPro triggers LuaTeX error with umlauts (äüö)
  2009-12-04 16:31         ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2009-12-04 17:56           ` Bernhard Rosensteiner
  2009-12-04 19:04             ` Taco Hoekwater
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Am 04.12.2009 um 17:31 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:

> 
> 
> Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote:
>> 
>> i use: LuaTeX, Version beta-0.46.0-2009112909, MacOSX 10.6.2 
> 
> Different font maybe? Mine is 396992 bytes, dated Jun 23 2007,
> version 001.001.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Taco
> 

Thanks, that could be the problem because i found out that my ZapfinoExtraLT-One works with umlauts. My Pro Version is from 2003 maybe to old.

best regards
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* Re:  ZapfinoPro triggers LuaTeX error with umlauts (äüö)
  2009-12-04 17:56           ` Bernhard Rosensteiner
@ 2009-12-04 19:04             ` Taco Hoekwater
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Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote:
> Am 04.12.2009 um 17:31 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
> 
>> 
>> Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote:
>>> i use: LuaTeX, Version beta-0.46.0-2009112909, MacOSX 10.6.2
>> Different font maybe? Mine is 396992 bytes, dated Jun 23 2007, 
>> version 001.001.
>> 
>> Best wishes, Taco
>> 
> 
> Thanks, that could be the problem because i found out that my
> ZapfinoExtraLT-One works with umlauts. My Pro Version is from 2003
> maybe to old.

I looked into this for a bit, and decided not to attempt to fix
the handling of such antiquated fonts, as it would really be quite
complex and there is a much easier fix: run the font through
fontforge to get a modern OTF that doesn't use the deprecated
'seac' operator.

Alternatively, there is a workaround:

   context --directives=fonts.embedall ...



Best wishes,
Taco




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2009-12-04 15:04     ` Wolfgang Schuster
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2009-12-04 16:31         ` Taco Hoekwater
2009-12-04 17:56           ` Bernhard Rosensteiner
2009-12-04 19:04             ` Taco Hoekwater
2009-12-04 16:53         ` Lutz Haseloff
2009-12-04 16:59           ` luigi scarso
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