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From: "Manuel P." <ayeye.sysforge@gmail.com>
To: context-ml <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Thoughts on ConTeXt: ditched
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:54:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B378347.8020700@gmail.com> (raw)

ConTeXt is a good software. I was impressed with a manual typesetted 
with it and decided to give it a try. After some small documents, 
despite my ridicously small knowledge of it I decided to use ConTeXt for 
my thesis. Bad move.

ConTeXt is beautiful because it's very configurable, for the most uses 
doesn't need any external module (unlike LaTeX), and gives me more power 
on the presentation of the document. But in a few days of work I've come 
to realize that it's not suited for me and this project.

I've had some unpleasant surprises:
- Bibliography doesn't work the way it should on MKIV. Unlike MKII.
- MKIV, unlike MKII, doesn't setup any background color:

----
\setupcolors[state=start]
\setupbackground[background=screen]
\setupbackground[state=start]
\def\quotebox#1#2
     {\blank
     \midaligned{\startbackground
     \quotation{\em #1} \crlf --#2
     \stopbackground}
     \blank}
----

- the above \quotebox command, in some cases, sends pdftex and luatex 
(MKII and MKIV) to the moon with an infinite loop (100% CPU).

One reason for this is probably my very limited knowledge and experience 
with ConTeXt. It's extremely configurable, and this is a plus. But on 
the other hand if you don't know how to move, what to do, the system 
internals and how any configuration affect the typesetting, a lot of 
thing won't work. And worse, you won't know where to bump your head. I 
don't have time to read the reference manual (I've already read the 
excursion) because the deadline is too near, so I have to call defeat 
and go to the LaTeX camp. I've wasted days of work, now I can't afford 
more of that.

It's a learning experience: don't use an "experimental" (new for me) 
tool for an important job. Stick to the tried&tested ones, and use new 
stuff only in a safe context (without a near hard deadline).

Maybe, in some future, I'll take again ConTeXt and try to learn it the 
proper way. But for now, it's "fired".

For your patience, time and help: thanks to all of you!

A little wish: I hope that when I'll return here there'll be good 
documentation (user-oriented) and a single (througly tested, see TDD/BDD 
approaches) reference implementation.

-- 
Manuel P.

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             reply	other threads:[~2009-12-27 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-27 15:54 Manuel P. [this message]
2009-12-27 18:41 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-12-28 13:44   ` Manuel P.
2009-12-28 15:12     ` Khaled Hosny
2009-12-28 17:59     ` Hans Hagen
2009-12-29 12:48       ` Manuel P.
2009-12-29  2:48     ` berend
2009-12-29 12:57       ` Manuel P.
2010-01-03 18:45         ` Piotr Kopszak
2010-01-04 21:46           ` Manuel P.
2009-12-27 19:16 ` Peter Münster
2009-12-27 21:11   ` Hans Hagen
2009-12-28 13:48   ` Manuel P.
2009-12-28 17:19     ` Peter Münster
2009-12-28 11:30 ` Gour
2009-12-28 12:36 ` R. Bastian

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