From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/55626 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: using `` '' the output is wrong. Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:53:01 +0100 Message-ID: <4B5467BD.2020006@wxs.nl> References: <4be511dc1001180434h14d05ebq27c5f9f1c5a811c8@mail.gmail.com> <4B545911.1050400@elvenkind.com> <201001181415.56845.alan.braslau@cea.fr> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263822818 1961 80.91.229.12 (18 Jan 2010 13:53:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:53:38 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Jan 18 14:53:31 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NWs2r-00030T-9S for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:53:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6762FC9C40; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:53:28 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id x7K9tq36Lt4o; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:53:18 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DD5C9C22; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:53:18 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2279C9C22 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:53:13 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ccvPcXTCRJOh for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:53:07 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.solcon.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7220C9B8C for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:53:06 +0100 (CET) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.100; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-9 (SurgeMail 4.2d2) with ESMTP id 910-1713362 for multiple; Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:52:52 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0 In-Reply-To: <201001181415.56845.alan.braslau@cea.fr> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:55626 Archived-At: On 18-1-2010 14:15, Alan BRASLAU wrote: > This is true of many standard TeX ligatures (is this the right word here?) actually they are inoput tricks misusing tex's ligature mechanism and there are also some weird ones (never used in practice) > such as ... (\ldots, \dots also works),<< (\og),>> (\fg), "` (\glqq), > "' (\grqq), ~ (unbreakable space), etc. ~ is a macro > This can be a bit disturbing for experienced TeX users. > > OK, \quotation{} is cleaner and of course using unicode > characters may be even more readable, sometimes. > > I have very mixed feelings, as I know how to type ... > but I never can recall the keyboard gymnastics necessary > to get this in unicode. \somenameforasymbol is always okay but as taco mentioned ... in mkiv these pseudo ligs are sort of gone Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________