* Re: negative kerning [not found] <mailman.334.1263852201.4207.ntg-context@ntg.nl> @ 2010-01-19 16:29 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 2010-01-19 17:12 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2010-01-19 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context, Wolfgang Schuster [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 647 bytes --] Hi, I tried the following snipped out of curiosity and it gives me the error (even with the latest beta) systems : begin file 1.tex at line 5 (c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/knuth.tex) (c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/knuth.texerror: ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-krn.lua:121: attempt to index local 'before' (a nil value) . l.11 ? > \definecharacterkerning[packed] > > \setupcharacterkerning[packed][factor=-.125] > > \starttext > > \input knuth > > \start > > \setcharacterkerning[packed] > > \input knuth > > \stop > > \stoptext > What have I missed? Regards, Vyatcheslav [-- Attachment #2: negativekerning.tex --] [-- Type: text/x-tex, Size: 182 bytes --] \definecharacterkerning[packed] \setupcharacterkerning[packed][factor=-.125] \starttext \input knuth \start \setcharacterkerning[packed] \input knuth \stop \stoptext [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 486 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: negative kerning 2010-01-19 16:29 ` negative kerning Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2010-01-19 17:12 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-01-19 17:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky On 19-1-2010 17:29, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > Hi, > > I tried the following snipped out of curiosity and it gives me the error > (even with the latest beta) > > systems : begin file 1.tex at line 5 > > (c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/knuth.tex) > (c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/knuth.texerror: > ....tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-krn.lua:121: attempt to > index local 'before' (a nil value) > > .. > > l.11 > > ? just a bug ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* negative kerning @ 2010-01-18 17:28 Horacio Suarez 2010-01-18 17:40 ` Hans Hagen 2010-01-18 17:46 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Horacio Suarez @ 2010-01-18 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 533 bytes --] hello all: I need someting like a negative kerning to reduce some paragraphs length. I was reading the mails but I didn´t find it or was too complex for me. thankyou in advance. -------------------- Horacio Suarez _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 723 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 486 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: negative kerning 2010-01-18 17:28 Horacio Suarez @ 2010-01-18 17:40 ` Hans Hagen 2010-01-18 22:03 ` Andreas Harder 2010-01-18 17:46 ` Wolfgang Schuster 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-01-18 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 18-1-2010 18:28, Horacio Suarez wrote: > > hello all: > > I need someting like a negative kerning to reduce some paragraphs length. > > I was reading the mails but I didn´t find it or was too complex for me. i'm not sure what you mean .. narrower? \startnarrower[right] ... \stopnarrower otherwise you need to locally mess around with tolerance and penalties or the width of a space Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: negative kerning 2010-01-18 17:40 ` Hans Hagen @ 2010-01-18 22:03 ` Andreas Harder 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Andreas Harder @ 2010-01-18 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 621 bytes --] Am 18.01.2010 um 18:40 schrieb Hans Hagen: > On 18-1-2010 18:28, Horacio Suarez wrote: >> >> hello all: >> >> I need someting like a negative kerning to reduce some paragraphs length. >> >> I was reading the mails but I didn´t find it or was too complex for me. > > otherwise you need to locally mess around with tolerance and penalties or the width of a space What is the best way to „mess around“? Is it preferable (if changing the text or layout is no option) to set a bigger inter-word space or a more tolerant expansion or both? The latter I tried to achieve, but with no luck (attachment). [-- Attachment #2: test-sloppypar2.tex --] [-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 1051 bytes --] \setuplayout[width=middle,header=0pt,footer=0pt] \startluacode fonts.expansions.classes['big-expansion'] = { stretch = 4, shrink = 4, step = .5, vector = 'default', factor = 5 } \stopluacode \definefontfeature [extraexpansion][default] [expansion=big-expansion] \usetypescript[pagella] \setupbodyfont[pagella,13.4pt] % \setupalign[hz,hanging,stretch] \definetolerancemethod [horizontal] [extraspace] {\spaceskip.35em plus.25em minus.2em\relax} \definetolerancemethod [horizontal] [extrastretch] {\emergencystretch=18pt} \definestartstop [SloppyPar] [before={\start \setuptolerance[horizontal,extrastretch,extraspace] \setfontfeature{extraexpansion}}, % changes nothing after=\stop] \overfullrule=6pt \starttext \showframe[text] \startcolumns[balance=no] \startSloppyPar {\bf sloppy:}\par \input tufte \par \it \input knuth \stopSloppyPar \column {\bf normal:}\par \input tufte \par \it \input knuth \stopcolumns \stoptext %%% Local Variables: %%% mode: context %%% TeX-master: t %%% End: [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 75 bytes --] Perhaps someone has further/better suggestions … Greetings Andreas [-- Attachment #4: Type: text/plain, Size: 486 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: negative kerning 2010-01-18 17:28 Horacio Suarez 2010-01-18 17:40 ` Hans Hagen @ 2010-01-18 17:46 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2010-01-18 22:39 ` Thomas A. Schmitz 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-01-18 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 435 bytes --] Am 18.01.10 18:28, schrieb Horacio Suarez: > hello all: > > I need someting like a negative kerning to reduce some paragraphs length. > > I was reading the mails but I didn´t find it or was too complex for me. MkIV only: \definecharacterkerning[packed] \setupcharacterkerning[packed][factor=-.125] \starttext \input knuth \start \setcharacterkerning[packed] \input knuth \stop \stoptext Wolfgang [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 952 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 486 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: negative kerning 2010-01-18 17:46 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-01-18 22:39 ` Thomas A. Schmitz 2010-01-19 11:37 ` Horacio Suarez 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2010-01-18 22:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Jan 18, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > MkIV only: > > \definecharacterkerning[packed] > > \setupcharacterkerning[packed][factor=-.125] > > \starttext > > \input knuth > > \start > > \setcharacterkerning[packed] > > \input knuth > > \stop > > \stoptext > > Wolfgang Wow!! That is one of the best things I have read in a while - it means we can have proper "gesperrten" Text with proper hyphenation! Really excellent, thanks a lot for pointing this out, Wolfgang! Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: negative kerning 2010-01-18 22:39 ` Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2010-01-19 11:37 ` Horacio Suarez 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Horacio Suarez @ 2010-01-19 11:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2017 bytes --] Thankyou very much for your answers. Wolfgang, I have the following error when I run that code: (c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/knuth.texerror: ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-krn.lua:121: attempt to index local 'before' (a nil value) I´m using XP ConTeXt ver: 2010.01.18 22:43 MKIV fmt: 2010.1.19 int: english/english what is wrong? thankyou for your help. -------------------- Horacio Suarez > From: thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de > Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:39:07 +0100 > To: ntg-context@ntg.nl > Subject: Re: [NTG-context] negative kerning > > > On Jan 18, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > > MkIV only: > > > > \definecharacterkerning[packed] > > > > \setupcharacterkerning[packed][factor=-.125] > > > > \starttext > > > > \input knuth > > > > \start > > > > \setcharacterkerning[packed] > > > > \input knuth > > > > \stop > > > > \stoptext > > > > Wolfgang > > Wow!! That is one of the best things I have read in a while - it means we can have proper "gesperrten" Text with proper hyphenation! Really excellent, thanks a lot for pointing this out, Wolfgang! > > Thomas > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2638 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 486 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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