* coloring rules
@ 2010-01-21 16:28 Hans van der Meer
2010-01-21 21:24 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Hans van der Meer @ 2010-01-21 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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ConTeXt ver: 2010.01.19 23:29 MKIV fmt: 2010.1.20 int: english/
english
Coloring hrule's and vrule's with \color[aColor]{\vrule
heightdepthwidth} works only if aColor is one of the standardcolors
like red, blue, gray, etc.
But defining other colors don't color the rule \definecolor[mygray][r=.
6,g=.7,b=.7]\color[mygray]{\vrule heightdepthwidth} typesets the rule
in black, not in mygray.
The strange is that the lines around \framed[framecolor=mygray] do get
colored correctly.
How can I accomplish the general coloring of vrule's and hrule's?
Hans van der Meer
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: coloring rules 2010-01-21 16:28 coloring rules Hans van der Meer @ 2010-01-21 21:24 ` Aditya Mahajan 2010-01-23 13:32 ` Hans van der Meer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2010-01-21 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Hans van der Meer wrote: > ConTeXt ver: 2010.01.19 23:29 MKIV fmt: 2010.1.20 int: english/english > > Coloring hrule's and vrule's with \color[aColor]{\vrule heightdepthwidth} > works only if aColor is one of the standardcolors like red, blue, gray, etc. > But defining other colors don't color the rule > \definecolor[mygray][r=.6,g=.7,b=.7]\color[mygray]{\vrule heightdepthwidth} > typesets the rule in black, not in mygray. > The strange is that the lines around \framed[framecolor=mygray] do get > colored correctly. > > How can I accomplish the general coloring of vrule's and hrule's? \blackrules. %D \macros %D {blackrules} %D %D One can call for a sequence of black rules, if needed %D equally spaced over the given width. %D %D \showsetup{blackrules} %D %D The two alternative calls are therefore: %D %D \startbuffer %D Tell me, is this according to the \blackrules[n=6]? %D These \blackrules[alternativevariant=b,n=10,distance=.2em,width=4cm] are quite clear. %D \stopbuffer Despite its name, \blackrules can be of any color. The default options are \setupblackrules [\c!n=3, \c!width=1em, \c!height=1ex, \c!depth=\!!zeropoint, \c!alternative=\c!a, \c!distance=.25ex, \c!color=] Aditya ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: coloring rules 2010-01-21 21:24 ` Aditya Mahajan @ 2010-01-23 13:32 ` Hans van der Meer 2010-01-23 13:49 ` Wolfgang Schuster ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Hans van der Meer @ 2010-01-23 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Further experimentation has shown that it is not impossible to color \vrule's, thus \blackrule is not specifically needed. Let me first mention that I put the colored rules away with \setbox\B=\hbox{} and then later call \B up. It is a pity until now I am not able to concoct a minimal example showing consistently the behaviour. However I have made the following observations: define: \definecolor[mycolor][r=myR,g=myG,b=myB] (1) \color[mycolor]{rule} typesets a black rule (2) \color[red]{something}\color[mycolor]{rule} typesets a mycolor rule (3) \definecolor[green][r=myR,g=myG,b=myB]\color[mycolor]{rule} typesets a mycolor rule (4) changing the values of myR,myG,myB between runs keeps typesetting the old mycolor (5) it seems there is a memory effect on defined colors, something with a cache that keeps me from changing things. It is mainly the seemingly erratic behaviour of the color changes that puzzles me. I seem not being able to pinpoint a culprit. Hans van der Meer On 21 jan 2010, at 22:24, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Hans van der Meer wrote: > >> ConTeXt ver: 2010.01.19 23:29 MKIV fmt: 2010.1.20 int: english/ >> english >> >> Coloring hrule's and vrule's with \color[aColor]{\vrule >> heightdepthwidth} works only if aColor is one of the standardcolors >> like red, blue, gray, etc. >> But defining other colors don't color the rule \definecolor[mygray] >> [r=.6,g=.7,b=.7]\color[mygray]{\vrule heightdepthwidth} typesets >> the rule in black, not in mygray. >> The strange is that the lines around \framed[framecolor=mygray] do >> get colored correctly. >> >> How can I accomplish the general coloring of vrule's and hrule's? > > \blackrules. > > %D \macros > %D {blackrules} > %D > %D One can call for a sequence of black rules, if needed > %D equally spaced over the given width. > %D > %D \showsetup{blackrules} > %D > %D The two alternative calls are therefore: > %D > %D \startbuffer > %D Tell me, is this according to the \blackrules[n=6]? > %D These \blackrules[alternativevariant=b,n=10,distance=. > 2em,width=4cm] are quite clear. > %D \stopbuffer > > > Despite its name, \blackrules can be of any color. The default > options are > > \setupblackrules > [\c!n=3, > \c!width=1em, > \c!height=1ex, > \c!depth=\!!zeropoint, > \c!alternative=\c!a, > \c!distance=.25ex, > \c!color=] > > Aditya ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: coloring rules 2010-01-23 13:32 ` Hans van der Meer @ 2010-01-23 13:49 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2010-01-23 15:06 ` Hans van der Meer 2010-01-24 13:02 ` Hans Hagen 2010-01-24 13:04 ` Hans Hagen 2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-01-23 13:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Am 23.01.10 14:32, schrieb Hans van der Meer: > Further experimentation has shown that it is not impossible to color > \vrule's, thus \blackrule is not specifically needed. \blackrule is a \vrule which is enclosed in \startcolor/\stopcolor. > Let me first mention that I put the colored rules away with > \setbox\B=\hbox{} and then later call \B up. Why so complicated? It is a pity until now I am not able to concoct a > minimal example showing consistently the behaviour. > > However I have made the following observations: > define: \definecolor[mycolor][r=myR,g=myG,b=myB] Have you tried '{\mycolor\vrule <spec>\relax}'? Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: coloring rules 2010-01-23 13:49 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-01-23 15:06 ` Hans van der Meer 2010-01-23 18:19 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Hans van der Meer @ 2010-01-23 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 23 jan 2010, at 14:49, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > Am 23.01.10 14:32, schrieb Hans van der Meer: >> Further experimentation has shown that it is not impossible to color >> \vrule's, thus \blackrule is not specifically needed. > > \blackrule is a \vrule which is enclosed in \startcolor/\stopcolor. > >> Let me first mention that I put the colored rules away with >> \setbox\B=\hbox{} and then later call \B up. > > Why so complicated? > > It is a pity until now I am not able to concoct a >> minimal example showing consistently the behaviour. >> >> However I have made the following observations: >> define: \definecolor[mycolor][r=myR,g=myG,b=myB] > > Have you tried '{\mycolor\vrule <spec>\relax}'? No, I hadn't, but now I have. And it worked. The simplest solution is most of the times the best, indeed. Thanks. > > Wolfgang > ___________________________________________________________________________________ Hans van der Meer ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: coloring rules 2010-01-23 15:06 ` Hans van der Meer @ 2010-01-23 18:19 ` Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-01-23 18:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Am 23.01.10 16:06, schrieb Hans van der Meer: >> Have you tried '{\mycolor\vrule <spec>\relax}'? > > No, I hadn't, but now I have. And it worked. The simplest solution is > most of the times the best, indeed. Thanks. Can you also check if it works when you add a \relax at the end of the \vrule command in the other cases, e.g. \color[mycolor]{\vrule <spec>\relax} Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: coloring rules 2010-01-23 13:32 ` Hans van der Meer 2010-01-23 13:49 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-01-24 13:02 ` Hans Hagen 2010-01-24 13:04 ` Hans Hagen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-01-24 13:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 23-1-2010 14:32, Hans van der Meer wrote: > Further experimentation has shown that it is not impossible to color > \vrule's, thus \blackrule is not specifically needed. Let me first > mention that I put the colored rules away with \setbox\B=\hbox{} and > then later call \B up. It is a pity until now I am not able to concoct a > minimal example showing consistently the behaviour. > > However I have made the following observations: > define: \definecolor[mycolor][r=myR,g=myG,b=myB] > > (1) \color[mycolor]{rule} typesets a black rule > (2) \color[red]{something}\color[mycolor]{rule} typesets a mycolor rule > (3) \definecolor[green][r=myR,g=myG,b=myB]\color[mycolor]{rule} typesets > a mycolor rule > (4) changing the values of myR,myG,myB between runs keeps typesetting > the old mycolor > (5) it seems there is a memory effect on defined colors, something with > a cache that keeps me from changing things. > > It is mainly the seemingly erratic behaviour of the color changes that > puzzles me. I seem not being able to pinpoint a culprit. it's not that erratic at all, just do the same experiment with fonts ... In traditional tex color is implemented using specials and code is injected. Compare this with fonts: you choose a font, which sets a state and that state carries with the following glyphs till set otherwise (or restored). Boxing and unboxing keeps that state. In mkiv we use attributes for color (btw, the mk.pdf documents mentions al those things). And attributes are kept with objects and as a result are retained, which in my opinion is as it shoul dbe. So, in traditional tex you have: box == somerule [somecolor][thatbox] which effectively is [somecolor]somerule so the rule gets somecolor but if you have box == [somecolor]somerule [anothercolor][thatbox] you have [anothercolor][somecolor]somerule and te box will stay somecolor in mkiv nocolor is really nocolor so in the first example your rule will be black (as it has no attribute set and will not gte one set either as a box has frozen states When I wrote the backend code for colors I added an inheritance model but it's not yet perfect (and might even disappear or change). \starttext x\definecolor[mycolor][green]\color[mycolor]{\vrule width 10cm}x \setbox0\hbox{x\color[mycolor]{\vrule width 10cm}x} x\definecolor[mycolor][red]\color[mycolor]{\vrule width 10cm}x \color[mycolor]{\copy0} \enableattributeinheritance \color[mycolor]{\attributedcopy0} \stoptext Your bad luck is that inheritance does not play well with rules currently. On the other hand, the fact that you could this in mkii is no proof that it's the right way to do it. Most attribute driven features behave like fonts have been doing in mkii for ages. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: coloring rules 2010-01-23 13:32 ` Hans van der Meer 2010-01-23 13:49 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2010-01-24 13:02 ` Hans Hagen @ 2010-01-24 13:04 ` Hans Hagen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-01-24 13:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 23-1-2010 14:32, Hans van der Meer wrote: > mention that I put the colored rules away with \setbox\B=\hbox{} and btw, this line in your mail is pretty important as that explains the behaviour Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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