Magazine imposition.

Magazine imposition.

[John Culleton]

A person has asked for a solution to this problem: print a dual magazine where 
the first half is a regular magazine, but the second half is a magazine with 
the pages upside down with respect to the  first half. In other words the back 
cover is really the front cover of the second magazine.  I assume that the 
page counts of each magazine are equal. 

I know that Context has an extensive imposition capability but I don't think 
this particular problem has been addressed.
-- 
John Culleton
"Create Book Covers with Scribus"
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Re: Magazine imposition.

[Willi Egger]

Hi John,

I do not have the complete answer to your question. The problem lies  
in the fact that one should have the second document in a rotated form.
Once you have one document upright and the second rotated, you could  
use the mechanisms described in page-imp.mkII/mkiv to create a single  
document from the two base-documents.
Once the two documents are combined into one you could invoke arranging.

You can do things like:

\definepapersize
   [offset=15pt]
\setuppapersize
   [A5,landscape][A4,portrait]
\setuplayout
   [backspace=0pt,
   topspace=0pt,
   width=middle,
   height=middle,
   location=middle,
   header=0pt,
   footer=0pt]
  	
\setuppagenumbering[location=,alternative=doublesided]
\setuparranging[2DOWN]
\starttext
	% \copypages
	% 	[the-review.pdf]
	% 	[scale=1000,
	% 	offset=0pt]
	% \filterpages
	%   [the-review.pdf][1:16][width=0pt]
    	\insertpages[the-review.pdf][width=0pt]
\stoptext


On Feb 18, 2010, at 12:41 AM, John Culleton wrote:

> A person has asked for a solution to this problem: print a dual  
> magazine where
> the first half is a regular magazine, but the second half is a  
> magazine with
> the pages upside down with respect to the  first half. In other  
> words the back
> cover is really the front cover of the second magazine.  I assume  
> that the
> page counts of each magazine are equal.
>
> I know that Context has an extensive imposition capability but I  
> don't think
> this particular problem has been addressed.
> -- 
> John Culleton
> "Create Book Covers with Scribus"
> Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95
> http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html
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Re: Magazine imposition.

[Hans Hagen]

On 18-2-2010 10:29, Willi Egger wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> I do not have the complete answer to your question. The problem lies in
> the fact that one should have the second document in a rotated form.
> Once you have one document upright and the second rotated, you could use
> the mechanisms described in page-imp.mkII/mkiv to create a single
> document from the two base-documents.
> Once the two documents are combined into one you could invoke arranging.
>
> You can do things like:
>
> \definepapersize
> [offset=15pt]
> \setuppapersize
> [A5,landscape][A4,portrait]
> \setuplayout
> [backspace=0pt,
> topspace=0pt,
> width=middle,
> height=middle,
> location=middle,
> header=0pt,
> footer=0pt]
>
> \setuppagenumbering[location=,alternative=doublesided]
> \setuparranging[2DOWN]
> \starttext
> % \copypages
> % [the-review.pdf]
> % [scale=1000,
> % offset=0pt]
> % \filterpages
> % [the-review.pdf][1:16][width=0pt]
> \insertpages[the-review.pdf][width=0pt]
> \stoptext

I wonder how this imposes

\starttext
     \setuppapersize[A4]
     \dorecurse{10}{test\page}
     \setuppapersize[A4,rotated,180]
     \dorecurse{10}{test\page}
\stoptext


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Re: Magazine imposition.

[Willi Egger]

So, that is a short cut!

I did not know weather the magazine was in context or not.
Anyway is there a possibility to rotate pages in a already typeset pdf?

Kind regards

Willi
On Feb 18, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 18-2-2010 10:29, Willi Egger wrote:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I do not have the complete answer to your question. The problem  
>> lies in
>> the fact that one should have the second document in a rotated form.
>> Once you have one document upright and the second rotated, you  
>> could use
>> the mechanisms described in page-imp.mkII/mkiv to create a single
>> document from the two base-documents.
>> Once the two documents are combined into one you could invoke  
>> arranging.
>>
>> You can do things like:
>>
>> \definepapersize
>> [offset=15pt]
>> \setuppapersize
>> [A5,landscape][A4,portrait]
>> \setuplayout
>> [backspace=0pt,
>> topspace=0pt,
>> width=middle,
>> height=middle,
>> location=middle,
>> header=0pt,
>> footer=0pt]
>>
>> \setuppagenumbering[location=,alternative=doublesided]
>> \setuparranging[2DOWN]
>> \starttext
>> % \copypages
>> % [the-review.pdf]
>> % [scale=1000,
>> % offset=0pt]
>> % \filterpages
>> % [the-review.pdf][1:16][width=0pt]
>> \insertpages[the-review.pdf][width=0pt]
>> \stoptext
>
> I wonder how this imposes
>
> \starttext
>     \setuppapersize[A4]
>     \dorecurse{10}{test\page}
>     \setuppapersize[A4,rotated,180]
>     \dorecurse{10}{test\page}
> \stoptext
>
>
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Re: Magazine imposition.

[Hans Hagen]

On 18-2-2010 14:35, Willi Egger wrote:
> So, that is a short cut!
>
> I did not know weather the magazine was in context or not.
> Anyway is there a possibility to rotate pages in a already typeset pdf?

externalfigure has no rotation key, and this does not work out well

     \defineoverlay[realdirty][{\rotate[rotation=180]{\foregroundbox}}]

     \framed{\externalfigure[cow.pdf][background=realdirty]}

(no time now)


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Re: Magazine imposition.

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Thursday 18 February 2010 14:35:00 Willi Egger wrote:
> So, that is a short cut!
> 
> I did not know weather the magazine was in context or not.
> Anyway is there a possibility to rotate pages in a already typeset pdf?
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Willi

pdftk is a pretty powerful tool:
http://www.accesspdf.com/pdftk/

Alan
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Re: Magazine imposition.

[luigi scarso]

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Willi Egger <w.egger@boede.nl> wrote:
> So, that is a short cut!
>
> I did not know weather the magazine was in context or not.
> Anyway is there a possibility to rotate pages in a already typeset pdf?
>
like a rolling stone ?

%%test-willy
\starttext
\dorecurse{5}{\startTEXpage\framed[width=10cm,align=right]{\ss \input
knuth\relax}\stopTEXpage}
\stoptext



\starttext
\startTEXpage
\dorecurse{5}{%
\rotate[rotation=\numexpr 72 *
(\recurselevel-1)\relax]{\externalfigure[test-willy][page=\recurselevel]}%
}
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext


-- 
luigi
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Re: Magazine imposition.

[Willi Egger]

Great, nicely packed in a joke! - This has not come to my mind as a  
solution and I am sure that I will need this idea later on!
Thanks!

Willi
On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:52 PM, luigi scarso wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Willi Egger <w.egger@boede.nl> wrote:
>> So, that is a short cut!
>>
>> I did not know weather the magazine was in context or not.
>> Anyway is there a possibility to rotate pages in a already typeset  
>> pdf?
>>
> like a rolling stone ?
>
> %%test-willy
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{5}{\startTEXpage\framed[width=10cm,align=right]{\ss \input
> knuth\relax}\stopTEXpage}
> \stoptext
>
>
>
> \starttext
> \startTEXpage
> \dorecurse{5}{%
> \rotate[rotation=\numexpr 72 *
> (\recurselevel-1)\relax]{\externalfigure[test-willy][page= 
> \recurselevel]}%
> }
> \stopTEXpage
> \stoptext
>
>
> -- 
> luigi
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Re: Magazine imposition.

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, John Culleton wrote:

> A person has asked for a solution to this problem: print a dual magazine where
> the first half is a regular magazine, but the second half is a magazine with
> the pages upside down with respect to the  first half. In other words the back
> cover is really the front cover of the second magazine.  I assume that the
> page counts of each magazine are equal.
>
> I know that Context has an extensive imposition capability but I don't think
> this particular problem has been addressed.

No imposition, but I have added a reverse feature in a module that I am 
working on.

http://github.com/adityam/cut-n-paste

\usemodule[cut-n-paste]

\starttext

\processcutNpaste[name={file1}]
\processcutNpaste[name={file2},rotation=180, alternative=reverse]

\stoptext

Due to a bug in \getfigureddimensions in MkIV, this only works correctly 
in MkII. To use MkIV, you have to add

\setupcutNpaste[width=..., height=...]

Aditya
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Re: Magazine imposition.

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 18.02.10 14:46, schrieb Hans Hagen:
> On 18-2-2010 14:35, Willi Egger wrote:
>> So, that is a short cut!
>>
>> I did not know weather the magazine was in context or not.
>> Anyway is there a possibility to rotate pages in a already typeset pdf?
>
> externalfigure has no rotation key, and this does not work out well
>
>     \defineoverlay[realdirty][{\rotate[rotation=180]{\foregroundbox}}]
>
>     \framed{\externalfigure[cow.pdf][background=realdirty]}
\externalfigure[cow][orientation=180]

Wolfgang

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