* Hanging indent in startstoplines for poems
@ 2010-03-29 15:29 Torsten Suhling
2010-03-29 15:53 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Torsten Suhling @ 2010-03-29 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Hello,
I have a question regarding hanging indentation in
startstoplines-environment.
So I try to use ConTeXt to typeset poems. In some texts/poems
ar long lines, which have to be broken. They should be broken
into hanging indentations.
That means:
Every line of poem should start left.
If a poemline is longer than text width, the rest of this line
should be indented in a new text line. (just like here)
The width of this indentation should be fixed (e.g. 3em).
The width of this indentation shouldn't depend on a word.
It would be fine, if I don't have to set (poem)linebreaks.
Additionally, it should still be able to indent a verse
(e.g. a chorus), for instance using narrower.
Hyphenation should be switched off inside the poems.
So I found \setuphanging, but these instruction seems made
another job---indenting a paragraph to be placed right beside
the first words of the paragraph.
That's the example, which does not work (all lines are indented)
%<-------------- snip ---------------------------------------
\definestartstop[verse]
[command={\setupwhitespace[1.2em]}% % follow the grid
,before={\setupindenting[-2em,yes]% % trial to construct
\startnarrower[2em]% % hanging indent
\startalignment[flushleft]% % even inter-word-dist.
\startlines% % no justification
\indenting[first]}%
,after={\stoplines%
\stopalignment%
\stopnarrower%
\endgraf}]
\starttext
Three lines, first should be broken:
\startverse
FIRST---this should be one line, please remove linebreaks made by the
mail programms or similiar possibly until HERE.
SECOND---next line without carriage return or line feed,
THIRD---because startstoplines accept linebreaks.
FOURTH---is also one who don't make much words.
\stopverse
\stoptext
%<-------------- snap ---------------------------------------
Any idea how to do that?
Thanks for help
Torsten
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2010-03-29 15:29 Hanging indent in startstoplines for poems Torsten Suhling
@ 2010-03-29 15:53 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-03-29 16:51 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-03-29 15:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Hans Hagen
Am 29.03.10 17:29, schrieb Torsten Suhling:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a question regarding hanging indentation in
> startstoplines-environment.
>
> So I try to use ConTeXt to typeset poems. In some texts/poems
> ar long lines, which have to be broken. They should be broken
> into hanging indentations.
>
> Any idea how to do that?
\definelines
[verse]
[indenting={yes,-2em,first},
before={\startnarrower[2em]},
after=\stopnarrower,
% style={\setupalign[flushleft,nothyphenated]},
style={\raggedright\nohyphens},
]
@Hans, can you change \setupalign to
\unexpanded\def\setupalign
{\dosingleargument\dosetupalign}
else it can't be used in the style key.
Wolfgang
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread* Re: Hanging indent in startstoplines for poems
2010-03-29 15:53 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2010-03-29 16:51 ` Hans Hagen
2010-03-29 19:24 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-03-29 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On 29-3-2010 17:53, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 29.03.10 17:29, schrieb Torsten Suhling:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a question regarding hanging indentation in
>> startstoplines-environment.
>>
>> So I try to use ConTeXt to typeset poems. In some texts/poems
>> ar long lines, which have to be broken. They should be broken
>> into hanging indentations.
>>
>> Any idea how to do that?
> \definelines
> [verse]
> [indenting={yes,-2em,first},
> before={\startnarrower[2em]},
> after=\stopnarrower,
> % style={\setupalign[flushleft,nothyphenated]},
> style={\raggedright\nohyphens},
> ]
>
> @Hans, can you change \setupalign to
>
> \unexpanded\def\setupalign
> {\dosingleargument\dosetupalign}
>
> else it can't be used in the style key.
sure, but i'd expected you to implement a proper align=... then -)
i made a few more in that module unexpanded
i'll upload a beta in a couple of minutes so you were just in time
Hans
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2010-03-29 16:51 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2010-03-29 19:24 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-03-30 21:34 ` Torsten Suhling
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-03-29 19:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Am 29.03.10 18:51, schrieb Hans Hagen:
>> @Hans, can you change \setupalign to
>>
>> \unexpanded\def\setupalign
>> {\dosingleargument\dosetupalign}
>>
>> else it can't be used in the style key.
> sure, but i'd expected you to implement a proper align=... then -)
no problem but what comes next, spacebefore/after, setups,
interlinespace ...
new keys are a way is it a good idea to add a new one just to use have a
setup function like alignment?
Wolfgang
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread* Re: Hanging indent in startstoplines for poems
2010-03-29 19:24 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2010-03-30 21:34 ` Torsten Suhling
2010-03-31 13:06 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Torsten Suhling @ 2010-03-30 21:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello,
thanks for the help, attached snippet seems to work.
So I guess my question basicly was caused by misunderstandings
in using define/setup commands.
Is there a document describing the grammar of context---how to
use or to combine \setupsomething, \definesomething
ttartstosomethig or \setupanything{something=[]}?
> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> % style={\setupalign[flushleft,nothyphenated]},
> style={\raggedright\nohyphens},
Sorry for stupid question, but is there a difference
between \nohyphens and \nothyphenated ?
Thanks
Torsten
%<----- snip --------------------------------------------------
\setupoutput[dvi]
\setupwhitespace[1.2em]
\definestartstop[verse]
[command={%
\setupwhitespace[1.2em]%
},style={%
\raggedright\nohyphens%
},before={%
\setuplines[indenting={yes,-2em,first}]%
\setupnarrower[left=2em]%
\startnarrower[left]% blockindent only left
\startlines%
},after={%
\stoplines%
\stopnarrower%
\setuplines[indenting={no}]% must be reseted
\endgraf%
}]
\starttext
Three lines, first should be broken:
\startverse
FIRST---this should be one line, please remove linebreaks, made by the
mail programms, until HERE.
SECOND---next line without carriage return or line feed,
THIRD---startstoplines accept linebreaks, so this is a new line.
FOURTH---fourth line also do not make much words.
\stopverse
\stoptext
%<----- snip --------------------------------------------------
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread* Re: Hanging indent in startstoplines for poems
2010-03-30 21:34 ` Torsten Suhling
@ 2010-03-31 13:06 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-03-31 13:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 30.03.10 23:34, schrieb Torsten Suhling:
> Hello,
>
> thanks for the help, attached snippet seems to work.
>
> So I guess my question basicly was caused by misunderstandings
> in using define/setup commands.
>
> Is there a document describing the grammar of context---how to
> use or to combine \setupsomething, \definesomething
> ttartstosomethig or \setupanything{something=[]}?
Just combine them in the way you need it in your document.
http://pragma-ade.com/show-man-10.htm
> > Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> >
> > % style={\setupalign[flushleft,nothyphenated]},
> > style={\raggedright\nohyphens},
>
> Sorry for stupid question, but is there a difference
> between \nohyphens and \nothyphenated ?
The second line are the commands which are used when your write
\setupalign[flushleft,nothyphenated] but when I wrote my mail
it wasn't possible to use \setupalign with the style key
(works now but i guess only in mkiv).
Wolfgang
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