Ligaturing in footnotes.

Ligaturing in footnotes.

[Philipp Gesang]

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Hi again,


footnotes keep me busy:

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\def\sc{\setfontfeature{smallcaps}}

\definefontfeature [default][default]
     [mode=node,onum=yes,liga=yes]

\definefontfeature [smallcaps][default]
     [mode=node,onum=yes,smcp=yes,liga=yes]

\starttext
\footnote{ \bgroup \sc Test -- \egroup Test -- .} % disables ligaturing
\footnote{ -- \bgroup \sc Test -- \egroup Test -- .} % works fine (!?)
\footnote{ \bgroup     Test -- \egroup Test -- .} % works fine
\footnote{ \bgroup \it Test -- \egroup Test -- .} % works fine
\stoptext
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After switching to the "smallcaps” font feature set, the surrounding
“default” set is not restored when leaving the group if and only if
the \bgroup was the first token inside the footnote.

(I know lm doesn't offer smcp as font feature but the problem is the
same with the font I'm using.  Try it e.g. on Minion from the acroread
free fonts.)

What am I doing wrong here?  Thanks for any advice,


Philipp

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Re: Ligaturing in footnotes.

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 17.04.10 12:49, schrieb Philipp Gesang:
> Hi again,
>
>
> footnotes keep me busy:
>
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> \def\sc{\setfontfeature{smallcaps}}
>
> \definefontfeature [default][default]
>       [mode=node,onum=yes,liga=yes]
>
> \definefontfeature [smallcaps][default]
>       [mode=node,onum=yes,smcp=yes,liga=yes]
>
> \starttext
> \footnote{ \bgroup \sc Test -- \egroup Test -- .} % disables ligaturing
> \footnote{ -- \bgroup \sc Test -- \egroup Test -- .} % works fine (!?)
> \footnote{ \bgroup     Test -- \egroup Test -- .} % works fine
> \footnote{ \bgroup \it Test -- \egroup Test -- .} % works fine
> \stoptext
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>
> After switching to the "smallcaps” font feature set, the surrounding
> “default” set is not restored when leaving the group if and only if
> the \bgroup was the first token inside the footnote.
>
> (I know lm doesn't offer smcp as font feature but the problem is the
> same with the font I'm using.  Try it e.g. on Minion from the acroread
> free fonts.)
>    
When you take a closer look you can see kerning is also lost in the first
footnote but when you need smallcaps only for the regular font you can
use typescripts.

\definefontfeature [default] [default] [mode=node,onum=yes]
\definefontfeature [smallcaps] [default] [smcp=yes]

\starttypescript [serif] [minion]
\setups[font:fallback:serif]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [file:minionpro-regular] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [file:minionpro-it] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:minionpro-bold] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [file:minionpro-boldit] 
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SerifCaps] [file:minionpro-regular] [features=smallcaps]
\stoptypescript

\definetypeface[mainface][rm][serif][minion][default]

\setupbodyfont[mainface]

\starttext
\footnote{ \bgroup \sc Test -- \egroup Test -- .}
\footnote{ -- \bgroup \sc Test -- \egroup Test -- .}
\footnote{ \bgroup Test -- \egroup Test -- .}
\footnote{ \bgroup \it Test -- \egroup Test -- .}
\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: Ligaturing in footnotes.

[Philipp Gesang]

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On 2010-04-18 <10:07:35>, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 17.04.10 12:49, schrieb Philipp Gesang:
> >After switching to the "smallcaps” font feature set, the surrounding
> >“default” set is not restored when leaving the group if and only if
> >the \bgroup was the first token inside the footnote.
> >
> >(I know lm doesn't offer smcp as font feature but the problem is the
> >same with the font I'm using.  Try it e.g. on Minion from the acroread
> >free fonts.)
> When you take a closer look you can see kerning is also lost in the first
> footnote but when you need smallcaps only for the regular font you can
> use typescripts.

Thanks, I'll adapt my typescripts, then.  But shouldn't setting font
features work as well?  Seems odd that the behaviour that disables
kerning and ligaturing occurs in exactly this particular context.

Philipp

> \definefontfeature [default] [default] [mode=node,onum=yes]
> \definefontfeature [smallcaps] [default] [smcp=yes]
> 
> \starttypescript [serif] [minion]
> \setups[font:fallback:serif]
> \definefontsynonym [Serif] [file:minionpro-regular] [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [file:minionpro-it] [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:minionpro-bold] [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [file:minionpro-boldit]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifCaps] [file:minionpro-regular] [features=smallcaps]
> \stoptypescript
> 
> \definetypeface[mainface][rm][serif][minion][default]
> 
> \setupbodyfont[mainface]
> 
> \starttext
> \footnote{ \bgroup \sc Test -- \egroup Test -- .}
> \footnote{ -- \bgroup \sc Test -- \egroup Test -- .}
> \footnote{ \bgroup Test -- \egroup Test -- .}
> \footnote{ \bgroup \it Test -- \egroup Test -- .}
> \stoptext
> 
> Wolfgang
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Re: Ligaturing in footnotes.

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 18.04.10 12:27, schrieb Philipp Gesang:
> On 2010-04-18<10:07:35>, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Am 17.04.10 12:49, schrieb Philipp Gesang:
>>> After switching to the "smallcaps” font feature set, the surrounding
>>> “default” set is not restored when leaving the group if and only if
>>> the \bgroup was the first token inside the footnote.
>>>
>>> (I know lm doesn't offer smcp as font feature but the problem is the
>>> same with the font I'm using.  Try it e.g. on Minion from the acroread
>>> free fonts.)
>> When you take a closer look you can see kerning is also lost in the first
>> footnote but when you need smallcaps only for the regular font you can
>> use typescripts.
>
> Thanks, I'll adapt my typescripts, then.  But shouldn't setting font
> features work as well?
I think so, it has also the advantage that you can set italic and boldcaps.
> Seems odd that the behaviour that disables
> kerning and ligaturing occurs in exactly this particular context.
A nice trick i found in the core (typo-cap.mkiv)

\def\sc{\setfontfeature{smallcaps}} % \addff{smallcaps}?

\definefontfeature [default] [default] [mode=node,onum=yes]
\definefontfeature [smallcaps] [default] [smcp=yes]

\setupenumerations[footnote][before=\char\zerocount\relax]

\setupbodyfont[pagella]

\starttext
\footnote{ \bgroup \sc Test \ -- \egroup Test -- .}
\footnote{ -- \bgroup \sc Test -- \egroup Test -- .}
\footnote{ \bgroup Test -- \egroup Test -- .}
\footnote{ \bgroup \it Test -- \egroup Test -- .}
\stoptext

Wolfgang

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