* [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence
@ 2010-04-17 9:10 Denis Bitouzé
2010-04-18 21:23 ` Hans Hagen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-17 9:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Hello,
thanks to contributors of this list I was able to use ppchtex with
LaTeX when I encountered a "\writestatus: Undefined control sequence"
problem:
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/044672.html
Everything went well (though I have a little use of ppchtex) but, as I
tried it some days ago, I was facing another trouble pointed out by the
following MCE:
\listfiles{}
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{etex,m-pictex,m-ch-en}
\begin{document}
\startchemical
\chemical{2H_2,PLUS,O_2,GIVES,2H_2O}
\stopchemical
\end{document}
The error is:
! Undefined control sequence.
\dodogetgroupargument ->\normalifx
\nextargument \bgroup \endrobusttest
\nos... l.6 \chemical{
2H_2,PLUS,O_2,GIVES,2H_2O}
?
Here is my files list:
*File List*
article.cls 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class
size10.clo 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX file (size option)
etex.sty 1998/03/26 v2.0 eTeX basic definition package (PEB)
m-pictex.sty 2004/07/30 package wrapper for m-pictex.tex
m-pictex.tex
m-ch-en.sty 2004/07/30 package wrapper for m-ch-en.tex
m-ch-en.tex
It seems that mkiv seems still not ok with my up-to-date TeX Live 2009,
as:
$ more test-context-minimal.tex
\starttext
Hello World!
\stoptext
$ context test-context-minimal.tex
MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
But mkii is ok (tested with `texexec test-context-minimal.tex`). And,
with mkii, the following ppchtex MCE is OK:
\usemodule[pictex,chemic]
\starttext
\startchemical
\chemical[SIX,B,R,RZ][1,2,3,4,5,6]
\stopchemical
\stoptext
Thanks in advance for any hint...
--
Denis
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread* Re: [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence 2010-04-17 9:10 [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-18 21:23 ` Hans Hagen 2010-04-22 9:30 ` Denis Bitouzé 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-04-18 21:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 17-4-2010 11:10, Denis Bitouzé wrote: > Hello, > > thanks to contributors of this list I was able to use ppchtex with > LaTeX when I encountered a "\writestatus: Undefined control sequence" > problem: > > http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/044672.html > > Everything went well (though I have a little use of ppchtex) but, as I > tried it some days ago, I was facing another trouble pointed out by the > following MCE: > > \listfiles{} > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage{etex,m-pictex,m-ch-en} > \begin{document} > \startchemical > \chemical{2H_2,PLUS,O_2,GIVES,2H_2O} > \stopchemical > \end{document} > > The error is: > > ! Undefined control sequence. > \dodogetgroupargument ->\normalifx can you check if your ppchtex.noc file has \input supp-mis.mkii \let\writestatus\undefined \input syst-gen.mkii \input syst-fnt.mkii i.e loads the mkii files? i font, get the cont-tmf.zip file from our website and unzip it in your tex tree (and run mktexlsr afterwards) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence 2010-04-18 21:23 ` Hans Hagen @ 2010-04-22 9:30 ` Denis Bitouzé 2010-04-22 11:16 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-22 9:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Le dimanche 18/04/10 à 23h23, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> a écrit : > can you check if your ppchtex.noc file has > > \input supp-mis.mkii \let\writestatus\undefined > \input syst-gen.mkii > \input syst-fnt.mkii > > i.e loads the mkii files? Yes, those lines are present in the file ppchtex.noc: [bitouze@drums ~]$ kpsewhich ppchtex.noc /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/context/ppchtex.noc [bitouze@drums ~]$ cd /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/context/ [bitouze@drums context]$ more ppchtex.noc | grep mkii \input supp-mis.mkii \let\writestatus\undefined \input syst-gen.mkii \input syst-fnt.mkii \input ppchtex.mkii [bitouze@drums context]$ Thanks for any further idea! ;) -- Denis ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence 2010-04-22 9:30 ` Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-22 11:16 ` Hans Hagen [not found] ` <20100422132518.1aacf25b@drums> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-04-22 11:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 22-4-2010 11:30, Denis Bitouzé wrote: > Le dimanche 18/04/10 à 23h23, > Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl> a écrit : > >> can you check if your ppchtex.noc file has >> >> \input supp-mis.mkii \let\writestatus\undefined >> \input syst-gen.mkii >> \input syst-fnt.mkii >> >> i.e loads the mkii files? > > Yes, those lines are present in the file ppchtex.noc: > > [bitouze@drums ~]$ kpsewhich ppchtex.noc > /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/context/ppchtex.noc > [bitouze@drums ~]$ > cd /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/context/ > [bitouze@drums context]$ more ppchtex.noc | grep mkii > \input supp-mis.mkii \let\writestatus\undefined > \input syst-gen.mkii > \input syst-fnt.mkii > \input ppchtex.mkii > [bitouze@drums context]$ and are you sure that these files are loaded? Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
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* Re: [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence [not found] ` <4BD035DE.1010901@wxs.nl> @ 2010-04-22 13:21 ` Denis Bitouzé 2010-04-22 13:30 ` Denis Bitouzé 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-22 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Le jeudi 22/04/10 à 13h41, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> a écrit : > can you download the cont-tmf.zip file and unzip it in the texmd-dist > root? It works! Well almost: no compilation trouble, but an empty page with the following MCE: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{etex,m-pictex,m-ch-en} \begin{document} \startchemical \chemical{2H_2,PLUS,O_2,GIVES,2H_2O} \stopchemical \end{document} Thanks! -- Denis ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence 2010-04-22 13:21 ` Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-22 13:30 ` Denis Bitouzé 2010-04-22 14:42 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-22 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Le jeudi 22/04/10 à 15h21, Denis Bitouzé <dbitouze@wanadoo.fr> a écrit : > no compilation trouble Sorry, no error but the following message in the .log file: ppchtex : the {}{}-alternative is not permitted here -- Denis ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence 2010-04-22 13:30 ` Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-22 14:42 ` Hans Hagen 2010-04-22 14:51 ` Denis Bitouzé 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-04-22 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 22-4-2010 3:30, Denis Bitouzé wrote: > Le jeudi 22/04/10 à 15h21, > Denis Bitouzé<dbitouze@wanadoo.fr> a écrit : > >> no compilation trouble > > Sorry, no error but the following message in the .log file: > > ppchtex : the {}{}-alternative is not permitted here so use the [][] variant instead ({}{} is for inline) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence 2010-04-22 14:42 ` Hans Hagen @ 2010-04-22 14:51 ` Denis Bitouzé 2010-04-22 17:09 ` Denis Bitouzé 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-22 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Hans Hagen, ntg-context Le jeudi 22/04/10 à 16h42, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> a écrit : > so use the [][] variant instead ({}{} is for inline) OK, that's better :) But the following MCE: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{etex,m-pictex,m-ch-en} \begin{document} \startchemical \chemical[2H_2,PLUS,O_2,GIVES,2H_2O] \stopchemical \end{document} leads to the messages: ppchtex : unknown chemical definition 2H_2 ppchtex : unknown chemical definition O_2 ppchtex : unknown chemical definition 2H_2O and, indeed, only the "+" sign and the arrow are printed. Thanks. -- Denis ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence 2010-04-22 14:51 ` Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-22 17:09 ` Denis Bitouzé 2010-04-22 21:30 ` Hans Hagen 2010-04-22 21:32 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-22 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Le jeudi 22/04/10 à 16h51, Denis Bitouzé <dbitouze@wanadoo.fr> a écrit : > But the following MCE: > > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage{etex,m-pictex,m-ch-en} > \begin{document} > \startchemical > \chemical[2H_2,PLUS,O_2,GIVES,2H_2O] > \stopchemical > \end{document} > > leads to the messages: > [...] Well, the following one: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{etex,m-pictex,m-ch-en} \begin{document} \chemical{2H_2,PLUS,O_2,GIVES,2H_2O} \end{document} is actually OK! What is strange is that ppchtex \chemical formulas used to be inserted between \startchemical and \stopchemical... Moreover, the following: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{etex,m-pictex,m-ch-en} \begin{document} \startchemical \chemical[SIX,B,R,RZ][1,2,3,4,5,6] \stopchemical \end{document} works only with \startchemical and \stopchemical. Are those changes: 1. {}{} rather than [][], 2. pair \startchemical, \stopchemical or not, 3. etc. documented somewhere? Thanks. -- Denis ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence 2010-04-22 17:09 ` Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-22 21:30 ` Hans Hagen 2010-04-23 5:37 ` Denis Bitouzé 2010-04-22 21:32 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-04-22 21:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 22-4-2010 7:09, Denis Bitouzé wrote: > Are those changes: > > 1. {}{} rather than [][], > > 2. pair \startchemical, \stopchemical or not, > > 3. etc. > > documented somewhere? sure, in the ppchtex manual; indeed {}{} is used inline (in math mode or not) and [][] between start/stop pairs Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence 2010-04-22 21:30 ` Hans Hagen @ 2010-04-23 5:37 ` Denis Bitouzé 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-23 5:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Le jeudi 22/04/10 à 23h30, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> a écrit : > sure, in the ppchtex manual; indeed {}{} is used inline (in math mode > or not) and [][] between start/stop pairs Well, sorry for my misreading... -- Denis ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence 2010-04-22 17:09 ` Denis Bitouzé 2010-04-22 21:30 ` Hans Hagen @ 2010-04-22 21:32 ` Hans Hagen 2010-04-23 5:37 ` Denis Bitouzé 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-04-22 21:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 22-4-2010 7:09, Denis Bitouzé wrote: > Are those changes: > > 1. {}{} rather than [][], > > 2. pair \startchemical, \stopchemical or not, > > 3. etc. btw, in mkiv ppchtex is reimplemented; it still has some flaws but it has more room for extensions and is now part of the context mkiv kernel Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence 2010-04-22 21:32 ` Hans Hagen @ 2010-04-23 5:37 ` Denis Bitouzé 2010-04-23 7:34 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-23 5:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Le jeudi 22/04/10 à 23h32, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> a écrit : > btw, in mkiv ppchtex is reimplemented; it still has some flaws but it > has more room for extensions and is now part of the context mkiv > kernel As I'm not using ConTeXt for the moment (but it may change! :), what are the consequences of this for a LaTeX user? Thanks! -- Denis ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence 2010-04-23 5:37 ` Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-23 7:34 ` Hans Hagen 2010-04-23 7:55 ` Denis Bitouzé 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-04-23 7:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 23-4-2010 7:37, Denis Bitouzé wrote: > Le jeudi 22/04/10 à 23h32, > Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl> a écrit : > >> btw, in mkiv ppchtex is reimplemented; it still has some flaws but it >> has more room for extensions and is now part of the context mkiv >> kernel > > As I'm not using ConTeXt for the moment (but it may change! :), what > are the consequences of this for a LaTeX user? we have context mkii and context mkiv; the new ppchtex module is for mkiv and uses a combination of lua, tex and mp; as context and latex are quite different (and even more when you consider mkiv) the new ppchtex code targets at context Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ppchtex] \normalifx: Undefined control sequence 2010-04-23 7:34 ` Hans Hagen @ 2010-04-23 7:55 ` Denis Bitouzé 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Denis Bitouzé @ 2010-04-23 7:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Le vendredi 23/04/10 à 09h34, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> a écrit : > we have context mkii and context mkiv; the new ppchtex module is for > mkiv and uses a combination of lua, tex and mp; as context and latex > are quite different (and even more when you consider mkiv) the new > ppchtex code targets at context Too bad... but I can understand... Thanks! -- Denis ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
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