From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/58411 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wolfgang Schuster Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Multiple pleas for help (long) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:47:27 +0200 Message-ID: <4BD6968F.3080702@googlemail.com> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1390483873==" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1272354468 15043 80.91.229.12 (27 Apr 2010 07:47:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:47:48 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Apr 27 09:47:42 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O6fWA-00063T-4q for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:47:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59E8C9C7F; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:47:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id F3lXVt0SnmSw; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:47:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F351C9C38; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:47:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F624C9C38 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:47:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rTOhBr5VM+ib for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:47:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-qy0-f193.google.com (mail-qy0-f193.google.com [209.85.221.193]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D7AC9C22 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:47:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so18197299qyk.20 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:47:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=AuM1JCciaED6bnpT5rc4NYiqnhgAbbFFgbwc/1HtMns=; b=caYumAazxBnpWrUbsnAhm0pjyiEb9TMQamI4M7nu1qe49LOi2yRI+sfRQE+aSm2VNl bW2leTYEhc9qnWOE0ogJjeYO/mWxvP3ave0RC84MbccdVUqckK+8TjHB77/cq4ahe9U5 LraXaOWOSYyXHY29OFyF8zEa1Jt32yJYkvPjg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; b=TcTJrNN1SeXhLmiHnL3h8wDI1KiYLWGBCDCeEpcfVqlOIi9W4o28ueTuf274dGvmre H7cDUMigNkV0GuwnHbEtVrmjssphJyg0bY71y2fNkOmRNy15UPp2f85PujM2wRtkdd4K roIa2Lgq0BWj1U1zfim8rpGAJZi1QRySVAzr4= Original-Received: by 10.224.24.203 with SMTP id w11mr255772qab.296.1272354451858; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.2.23] ([72.14.241.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm2773807qyk.9.2010.04.27.00.47.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:47:31 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; de; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:58411 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1390483873== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070108050701060404060507" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070108050701060404060507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 27.04.10 00:44, schrieb Scott Steele: > Hullo, all. I've been trying for 3 months now to get my last 2 years'=20 > worth of journal entries satisfactorily typeset for printing on=20 > lulu.com . This is my first major project using=20 > Context (with the Xetex engine=E2=80=94the current procedures required = by=20 > Pdftex to set up and manage fonts are too intimidating for me (I {\em=20 > did} try it.)) as I'm no longer in school and had typeset the=20 > preceding year's worth of entries in Latex. I started to use (xe)Latex=20 > again this time but gave up in frustration with all of the predefined=20 > formatting, which I've moved away from as I've read more of Robert=20 > Bringhurst. > > Anyway, I have a number of problems. > > I apologize for putting them all into one message and for failing to=20 > find solutions elsewhere on the site. I've looked around a great deal,=20 > but am hampered in doing so by my limiting of my internet time with an=20 > {\sc ems} PowerCop (otherwise, I'd be on Wikipedia until they decided=20 > to lock me away). (I do my writing, editing, and typesetting on a=20 > little internet-crippled netbook with CrunchBang and Vim.) > > I'll include my current pre=C3=A4mble information at the end of this=20 > message in case it is useful in addressing any of my issues. If=20 > they're addressed elsewhere, I'd be thrilled with links. If they're=20 > not, I'd greatly appreciate any help. > > I've found solutions to a number of previous problems, but here are=20 > all that I believe are in the way of my finishing this project: > > 1 > How do I make bulleted lists not have lines between items in the list? \startitemize[packed] > > 2 > Is it possible to push the bullets for bulleted lists into the margin=20 > (and then have the text of each item start at the same level of=20 > indentation as normal text)? Also, given my target printing medium,=20 > this would require alteration of the space between the bullet mark and=20 > its text=E2=80=94how do I alter this and the glyph used as the bullet m= ark? \startitemize[margin] > 3 > Is it possible to alter the way footnotes are displayed? I might want=20 > to have new footnotes follow previous ones with a 3-em space rather=20 > than starting a new line in the footer. And if I go that route, I'd=20 > need a way to pull the footer number in from the margin. > > 4 > How can I adjust the formatting settings for the frontmatter (title=20 > page, table of contents) and backmatter (colophon, appendices, index).=20 > In general, I need to be able to set whether page numbers are used and=20 > what kind and positioning of the text on the page. In particular, how=20 > do I change the formatting for items in the table of contents (and=20 > what glyph/spacing go between the item's title and corresponding page=20 > number as well as how all of those elements are positioned)? Look for \setuplist[...] in the wiki and manuals. > 5 > How can I have either unnumbered sections, or subjects that appear in=20 > the table of contents? \setuphead[subject][incrementnumber=3Dlist] > 6 > Does Xetex or Context have a facility for positioning accents over=20 > letters when those particular combinations are not in the font? (Or=20 > should I just go ahead and do this manually in Fontforge?) > > 7 > Is there a built-in equivalent of the \fancybreak function from Latex?=20 > I think I know now how to put something like it together manually but=20 > don't want go the amateur route if there's something more polished=20 > available. What is \fanybreak supposed to do? > 8 > Since this is just a journal, I have used simple emoticons (don't=20 > laugh!). I tweaked a vector smiley from Wikimedia to get a frowny and=20 > slashy, and they work well except for when they end up on the first=20 > (printed) text line of a page. I have one page that has a subject=20 > title on the grid but that is followed by a (logical) line with a=20 > smiley that ends up on its first printed line. This printed line and=20 > all of the rest of the text on the page (including another subject=20 > title) sit several points (approx) lower than where they should (so=20 > that the grid lines bisect the bowls of all the lower-case a's). There=20 > is another page that does not start with a subject title but directly=20 > with a printed line containing an emoticon, and it has exactly the=20 > same problem as the first page, with the text sitting just low enough=20 > that the grid lines bisect the bowls of the lower-case a's. Pages with=20 > emoticons on them do not exhibit this problem when the emoticon is not=20 > on the first printed line, and all lines remain correctly positioned=20 > on the grid. You can see below how I'm putting in the emoticons. You can write '\dontleavehmode\Frowny' or you include \dontleavehmode in=20 the defintion itself \def\Frowny{\dontleavehmode\externalfigure[frowny]} Wolfgang --------------070108050701060404060507 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 27.04.10 00:44, schrieb Scott Steele:
Hullo, all. I've been trying for 3 months now to get my last 2 years' worth of journal entries satisfactorily typeset for printing on lulu.com. This is = my first major project using Context (with the Xetex engine=E2=80=94the curr= ent procedures required by Pdftex to set up and manage fonts are too intimidating for me (I {\em did} try it.)) as I'm no longer in school and had typeset the preceding year's worth of entries in Latex. I started to use (xe)Latex again this time but gave up in frustration with all of the predefined formatting, which I've moved away from as I've read more of Robert Bringhurst.

Anyway, I have a number of problems.

I apologize for putting them all into one message and for failing to find solutions elsewhere on the site. I've looked around a great deal, but am hampered in doing so by my limiting of my internet time with an {\sc ems} PowerCop (otherwise, I'd be on Wikipedia until they decided to lock me away). (I do my writing, editing, and typesetting on a little internet-crippled netbook with CrunchBang and Vim.)

I'll include my current pre=C3=A4mble information at the end of th= is message in case it is useful in addressing any of my issues. If they're addressed elsewhere, I'd be thrilled with links. If they're not, I'd greatly appreciate any help.

I've found solutions to a number of previous problems, but here are all that I believe are in the way of my finishing this project:

1
How do I make bulleted lists not have lines between items in the list?
\startitemize[packed]

2
Is it possible to push the bullets for bulleted lists into the margin (and then have the text of each item start at the same level of indentation as normal text)? Also, given my target printing medium, this would require alteration of the space between the bullet mark and its text=E2=80=94how do I alter this and the glyph used as the bullet mar= k?
\startitemize[margin]
3
Is it possible to alter the way footnotes are displayed? I might want to have new footnotes follow previous ones with a 3-em space rather than starting a new line in the footer. And if I go that route, I'd need a way to pull the footer number in from the margin.

4
How can I adjust the formatting settings for the frontmatter (title page, table of contents) and backmatter (colophon, appendices, index). In general, I need to be able to set whether page numbers are used and what kind and positioning of the text on the page. In particular, how do I change the formatting for items in the table of contents (and what glyph/spacing go between the item's title and corresponding page number as well as how all of those elements are positioned)?
Look for \setuplist[...] in the wiki and manuals.
5
How can I have either unnumbered sections, or subjects that appear in the table of contents?
\setuphead[subject][incrementnumber=3Dlist]
6
Does Xetex or Context have a facility for positioning accents over letters when those particular combinations are not in the font? (Or should I just go ahead and do this manually in Fontforge?)

7
Is there a built-in equivalent of the \fancybreak function from Latex? I think I know now how to put something like it together manually but don't want go the amateur route if there's something more polished available.
What is \fanybreak supposed to do?
8
Since this is just a journal, I have used simple emoticons (don't laugh!). I tweaked a vector smiley from Wikimedia to get a frowny and slashy, and they work well except for when they end up on the first (printed) text line of a page. I have one page that has a subject title on the grid but that is followed by a (logical) line with a smiley that ends up on its first printed line. This printed line and all of the rest of the text on the page (including another subject title) sit several points (approx) lower than where they should (so that the grid lines bisect the bowls of all the lower-case a's). There is another page that does not start with a subject title but directly with a printed line containing an emoticon, and it has exactly the same problem as the first page, with the text sitting just low enough that the grid lines bisect the bowls of the lower-case a's. Pages with emoticons on them do not exhibit this problem when the emoticon is not on the first printed line, and all lines remain correctly positioned on the grid. You can see below how I'm putting in the emoticons.
You can write '\dontleavehmode\Frowny' or you include \dontleavehmode in the defintion itself

\def\Frowny{\dontleavehmode\externalfigure[frowny]}

Wolfgang

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