From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/58584 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: language specifics Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 11:19:04 +0200 Message-ID: <4BE3DB08.2040000@wxs.nl> References: <9F07F3B3F61C4284851A95415329B969@PustaPC> <4BE323A4.1050304@wxs.nl> <20100507072532.GB3537@gaston.couberia.bzh> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1273223950 26757 80.91.229.12 (7 May 2010 09:19:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 09:19:10 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri May 07 11:19:09 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OAJi8-0002bz-SN for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 May 2010 11:19:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D01C9C01; Fri, 7 May 2010 11:19:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id JNWAf90YFM7T; Fri, 7 May 2010 11:19:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA15BC9C1F; Fri, 7 May 2010 11:19:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6B5C9BFF for ; Fri, 7 May 2010 11:19:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id oS1z4qb8Kj3Q for ; Fri, 7 May 2010 11:19:01 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (sc-162.r-213-125-29.schoolconnect.nu [213.125.29.162]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B2EC9C01 for ; Fri, 7 May 2010 11:19:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.100; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-9 (SurgeMail 4.3e) with ESMTP id 121-1713362 for ; Fri, 07 May 2010 11:18:58 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: <20100507072532.GB3537@gaston.couberia.bzh> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:58584 Archived-At: On 7-5-2010 9:25, Peter M=FCnster wrote: > On Thu, May 06 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: > >> in mkiv we don't have (want) language specifics ... why do yoi need them? > > Hello Hans, > > What is now the right mechanism, to trigger some setting when a specific > language is activated and cancel this same setting, when this language is > deactivated? > > Example: when entering French language, I want to execute > "\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]" and when leaving French I want = to > execute "\setcharacterspacing[reset]". > > (today the file > http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/t-french/tex/context/third/french/t-f= rench.tex > is broken, because I don't know how to do it right... :( you can then probably just enable it as i cannot imagine a document = which uses mixed typographical habits that still looks right anyway, there will be some mechanism but probably more at the level of = the features itself (i.e. as part of setcharacterspacing) as there have = to be ways to turn on/off specific language bound features. The mkii = language specifics were mostly meant for encoding issues and those = trigger points have disappeared as encodings are gone now. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________