From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/58591 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: PPCHTEX with PSTricks option Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 20:52:20 +0200 Message-ID: <4BE46164.7080205@wxs.nl> References: <4BE39CDE.10405@gmx.net> <201005070912.57406.alan.braslau@cea.fr> <4BE3CDF8.1000102@wxs.nl> <201005071304.25326.alan.braslau@cea.fr> <4BE457F6.7000608@gmx.net> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1273258374 29715 80.91.229.12 (7 May 2010 18:52:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 18:52:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users To: Helge Kruse Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri May 07 20:52:52 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OASfM-0006Xx-4q for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 May 2010 20:52:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1A7C9C9A; Fri, 7 May 2010 20:52:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id vPR4AptN+Dlr; Fri, 7 May 2010 20:52:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0E2C9CA5; Fri, 7 May 2010 20:52:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94631C9CA5 for ; Fri, 7 May 2010 20:52:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id BIqs1x8dYKKv for ; Fri, 7 May 2010 20:52:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (sc-162.r-213-125-29.schoolconnect.nu [213.125.29.162]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215FCC9C9A for ; Fri, 7 May 2010 20:52:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.100; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-9 (SurgeMail 4.3e) with ESMTP id 208-1713362 for multiple; Fri, 07 May 2010 20:52:41 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: <4BE457F6.7000608@gmx.net> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:58591 Archived-At: On 7-5-2010 8:12, Helge Kruse wrote: > Am 07.05.2010 13:04, schrieb Alan BRASLAU: >> On Friday 07 May 2010 10:23:20 Hans Hagen wrote: >>> On 7-5-2010 9:12, Alan BRASLAU wrote: >>> indeed the mkiv reimplementation will not be backported to latex as it >>> involved a combination of tex, lua and mp now and is integrated into the >>> context kernel (we have math in the kernel so why not chemistry) > > So PPCHTEX is frozen for LaTeX? apart from bug fixes (and/or if someone submits more drawing definitions) in fact, as we move on to luatex, the context version for pdftex / xetex is frozen as well >> Indeed, the problem is that I tried to run the pstricks option >> under pdflatex, which, of course, does not work! > The pictex output is not convincing, so I hoped the PSTricks output > would gave better result. In general it works, but the diagonal bonds > are too long. I Hoped that this could be fixed. if we kno wwhere the problem sits it will of course be solved, however as i don't run latex i cannot see what goes wrong > Skimming the ppchtex.noc I found that metapost is one possible output > "driver". I also found a documentation for metapost. But I don't see how > I can make PPCHTEX work with metapost in LaTeX. I even don't know if > metapost can be used in LaTeX as in ConTeXt. in context mkii metapost support has been integrated for quite some time and in context mkiv it can be processed without noticing so there ppchtex uses even more metapost (which is why there are also some extras) >> As I (almost) never use LaTeX anymore (and certainly never dvips) >> I had forgotten about this. >> >> I guess that I have become far too accustomed to ConTeXt and, >> in particular, mkiv. >> >> As to the original post, it yields acceptable results. The new ppchtex >> in mkiv core is an improvement and, as Hans confirms, will not be >> backported >> to laTeX. This could be one of many good reasons to switch from LaTeX to >> ConTeXt! > Well I am curious and I would evaluate ConTeXt. I think that > http://www.pragma-ade.com/ will be a good starting point to do that. > Unfortunately I did not found "How to install ConTeXt". Can this be done > by adding some packages in MiKTeX 2.8? Probably a silly question... best start with installing the so called minimals (from contextgarden.net) which will give you an independent tree that does not interfere with anything else btw, an easy test is: \starttext \startTEXpage ... some chemical ... \stopTEXpage \stoptext which will give you a graphic that you then can include in a latex doc Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________