* Math accents set too close to capital
@ 2013-07-30 22:04 Michael Murphy
2013-07-31 7:05 ` Keith J. Schultz
2013-07-31 7:48 ` Hans Hagen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Michael Murphy @ 2013-07-30 22:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello all,
I'm trying to typeset 'H' with a circumflex (or hat) in math mode, but the result is rather ugly when not using latin-modern. I've tried to redefine the \hat macro to move the accent up a bit using \topaccent: is this the best approach? Having to nest '$' does not seem right at all. (Also, for some reason although I find \mathhat in enco-ini.mkiv, when I try to use it I get undefined control sequence.)
Thanks,
Michael
\starttypescript [mathfont]
\definetypeface [mathfont] [mm] [math] [palatino] [default] [rscale=1.0]
\stoptypescript
\usetypescript[mathfont]
\setupbodyfont[mathfont]
\starttext
$\hat{H}$
\def\hat#1{\topaccent{3pt}{0}{90}{\textcircumflex}{$#1$}}
$\hat{H}$
\stoptext
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Michael Murphy
murphy.md@gmail.com
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: Math accents set too close to capital 2013-07-30 22:04 Math accents set too close to capital Michael Murphy @ 2013-07-31 7:05 ` Keith J. Schultz 2013-08-01 8:04 ` Khaled Hosny 2013-07-31 7:48 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Keith J. Schultz @ 2013-07-31 7:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1079 bytes --] Hi, Have you tries U+1024 or LETTER CAPITAL H WITH CIRCUMFLEX? True not all Fonts might not have it and it is TEXT not Math. Just a thought. regards Keith. Am 31.07.2013 um 00:04 schrieb Michael Murphy <murphy.md@gmail.com>: > Hello all, > > I'm trying to typeset 'H' with a circumflex (or hat) in math mode, but the result is rather ugly when not using latin-modern. I've tried to redefine the \hat macro to move the accent up a bit using \topaccent: is this the best approach? Having to nest '$' does not seem right at all. (Also, for some reason although I find \mathhat in enco-ini.mkiv, when I try to use it I get undefined control sequence.) > > Thanks, > Michael > > \starttypescript [mathfont] > \definetypeface [mathfont] [mm] [math] [palatino] [default] [rscale=1.0] > \stoptypescript > \usetypescript[mathfont] > \setupbodyfont[mathfont] > > \starttext > > $\hat{H}$ > > \def\hat#1{\topaccent{3pt}{0}{90}{\textcircumflex}{$#1$}} > > $\hat{H}$ > > \stoptext > > -- > > Michael Murphy > murphy.md@gmail.com [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3532 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Math accents set too close to capital 2013-07-31 7:05 ` Keith J. Schultz @ 2013-08-01 8:04 ` Khaled Hosny 2013-08-01 13:04 ` Michael Murphy 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Khaled Hosny @ 2013-08-01 8:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 09:05:18AM +0200, Keith J. Schultz wrote: > Hi, > > Have you tries U+1024 or LETTER CAPITAL H WITH CIRCUMFLEX? > > True not all Fonts might not have it and it is TEXT not Math. And you shouldn’t use it in math, even Unicode discourages such use. Accents in text and math are not the same. Regards, Khaled ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Math accents set too close to capital 2013-08-01 8:04 ` Khaled Hosny @ 2013-08-01 13:04 ` Michael Murphy 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Michael Murphy @ 2013-08-01 13:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 746 bytes --] I did try that, but it doesn't seem to exist in my font. Besides, I'm inclined to agree with Khaled on math accents. I think that what I'm trying to do shouldn't be that hard, I just want the \mathhat accent to be placed a little higher. Something like \skew in plain TeX, but in the vertical direction. Michael On Thursday, 1 August 2013 at 09:04, Khaled Hosny wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 09:05:18AM +0200, Keith J. Schultz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Have you tries U+1024 or LETTER CAPITAL H WITH CIRCUMFLEX? > > > > True not all Fonts might not have it and it is TEXT not Math. > > And you shouldn’t use it in math, even Unicode discourages such use. > Accents in text and math are not the same. > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1274 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Math accents set too close to capital 2013-07-30 22:04 Math accents set too close to capital Michael Murphy 2013-07-31 7:05 ` Keith J. Schultz @ 2013-07-31 7:48 ` Hans Hagen 2013-07-31 10:26 ` Michael Murphy 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-07-31 7:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 7/31/2013 12:04 AM, Michael Murphy wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm trying to typeset 'H' with a circumflex (or hat) in math mode, but > the result is rather ugly when not using latin-modern. I've tried to > redefine the \hat macro to move the accent up a bit using \topaccent: is > this the best approach? Having to nest '$' does not seem right at all. > (Also, for some reason although I find \mathhat in enco-ini.mkiv, when I > try to use it I get undefined control sequence.) > > Thanks, > Michael > > \starttypescript [mathfont] > \definetypeface [mathfont] [mm] [math] [palatino] [default] > [rscale=1.0] > \stoptypescript > \usetypescript[mathfont] > \setupbodyfont[mathfont] > > \starttext > > $\hat{H}$ > > \def\hat#1{\topaccent{3pt}{0}{90}{\textcircumflex}{$#1$}} > > $\hat{H}$ > > \stoptext $\widehat{H}$ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Math accents set too close to capital 2013-07-31 7:48 ` Hans Hagen @ 2013-07-31 10:26 ` Michael Murphy 2013-07-31 19:40 ` Sietse Brouwer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Michael Murphy @ 2013-07-31 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2270 bytes --] Hi Hans, Thanks for the response. This is sort of what I wanted, except the \widehat is, well, quite wide. So I hacked it around a bit to put the \widehat from a capital 'I' on top of a capital 'H'. In case it happens to be helpful, the final macro was \def\hhat{H\kern-0.61em\widehat{\phantom{I}}\kern0.178em} If I really cared, I wouldn't hard-code those numbers, but since they are in em I'm not really too worried. -- Michael Murphy murphy.md@gmail.com On Wednesday, 31 July 2013 at 08:48, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 7/31/2013 12:04 AM, Michael Murphy wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I'm trying to typeset 'H' with a circumflex (or hat) in math mode, but > > the result is rather ugly when not using latin-modern. I've tried to > > redefine the \hat macro to move the accent up a bit using \topaccent: is > > this the best approach? Having to nest '$' does not seem right at all. > > (Also, for some reason although I find \mathhat in enco-ini.mkiv, when I > > try to use it I get undefined control sequence.) > > > > Thanks, > > Michael > > > > \starttypescript [mathfont] > > \definetypeface [mathfont] [mm] [math] [palatino] [default] > > [rscale=1.0] > > \stoptypescript > > \usetypescript[mathfont] > > \setupbodyfont[mathfont] > > > > \starttext > > > > $\hat{H}$ > > > > \def\hat#1{\topaccent{3pt}{0}{90}{\textcircumflex}{$#1$}} > > > > $\hat{H}$ > > > > \stoptext > > $\widehat{H}$ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com (http://www.pragma-ade.com) > | www.pragma-pod.nl (http://www.pragma-pod.nl) > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3752 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Math accents set too close to capital 2013-07-31 10:26 ` Michael Murphy @ 2013-07-31 19:40 ` Sietse Brouwer 2013-07-31 21:01 ` Marco Patzer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Sietse Brouwer @ 2013-07-31 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Tangential to your issue, but nota bene: instead of $...$ for inline math, ConTeXt lets you use \math{...} or \m{...}. Which is a bit more explicit, and can be easier to debug. You might prefer it. For display math, you really should use \startformula...\stopformula if you aren’t using it already, because $$...$$ doesn't space correctly. (Says the wiki. I don’t know it’s still true.) Cheers, Sietse On 31 July 2013 12:26, Michael Murphy <murphy.md@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Hans, > > Thanks for the response. This is sort of what I wanted, except the \widehat > is, well, quite wide. So I hacked it around a bit to put the \widehat from a > capital 'I' on top of a capital 'H'. In case it happens to be helpful, the > final macro was > > \def\hhat{H\kern-0.61em\widehat{\phantom{I}}\kern0.178em} > > If I really cared, I wouldn't hard-code those numbers, but since they are in > em I'm not really too worried. > > -- > Michael Murphy > murphy.md@gmail.com > > On Wednesday, 31 July 2013 at 08:48, Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 7/31/2013 12:04 AM, Michael Murphy wrote: > > Hello all, > > I'm trying to typeset 'H' with a circumflex (or hat) in math mode, but > the result is rather ugly when not using latin-modern. I've tried to > redefine the \hat macro to move the accent up a bit using \topaccent: is > this the best approach? Having to nest '$' does not seem right at all. > (Also, for some reason although I find \mathhat in enco-ini.mkiv, when I > try to use it I get undefined control sequence.) > > Thanks, > Michael > > \starttypescript [mathfont] > \definetypeface [mathfont] [mm] [math] [palatino] [default] > [rscale=1.0] > \stoptypescript > \usetypescript[mathfont] > \setupbodyfont[mathfont] > > \starttext > > $\hat{H}$ > > \def\hat#1{\topaccent{3pt}{0}{90}{\textcircumflex}{$#1$}} > > $\hat{H}$ > > \stoptext > > > $\widehat{H}$ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Math accents set too close to capital 2013-07-31 19:40 ` Sietse Brouwer @ 2013-07-31 21:01 ` Marco Patzer 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Marco Patzer @ 2013-07-31 21:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 354 bytes --] On 2013–07–31 Sietse Brouwer wrote: > Tangential to your issue, but nota bene: instead of $...$ for inline > math, ConTeXt lets you use \math{...} or \m{...}. Indeed. And when you use \asciimode, you have no other choice (and that's a good thing): \asciimode \starttext My #1 is $5 \math{a^2 + b^2} \stoptext Marco [-- Attachment #1.2: Digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 490 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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