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From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
To: Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny@eglug.org>
Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>,
	Idris Samawi Hamid <ishamid@colostate.edu>,
	Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 10+ reasons why I still use MKII
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 23:09:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BEC6A98.4020609@wxs.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100513170834.GA5073@khaled-laptop>

On 13-5-2010 7:08, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 05:00:01PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 13-5-2010 4:32, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 04:16:12PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>> On 13-5-2010 3:42, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> \startyoumayignorethis
>>>>> The only thing that really bothers me are so much different vertical
>>>>> differences which show up in almost every document I ever write. MKIV
>>>>> consistently takes more vertical space, so no matter what document I
>>>>> try to recompile, it always ends up with more pages (and some weird
>>>>> page breaks) when processing it with MKIV.
>>>>
>>>> \startcantresistmode
>>>>
>>>> the lineheight relates to the ex height and as in mkiv we don't have
>>>> the tfm limitations (those 16 values of ht dp) we have slightly
>>>> different spacing
>>>
>>> Something I find very annoying is variable interline spacing, if I've,
>>> for example, a line with some Arabic words vocalized I get some times
>>> too much white space above it that it almost looks like an empty line.
>>> It makes the page look like crap. Is there a way to force fixed
>>> interline spacing?
>>
>> turn turn grid on .. but even then, we need some nice heuristic for
>> determing the right ht/dp ratio for arabic (can be set up)
>
> I recall trying grid a while ago but it didn't work, looks like I have
> to set \setuplayout[grid=force].

for sure there are bugs as it needs much testing but we have predefined 
grid setups:

% none             don't enlarge
% halfline         enlarge by halfline/halfline
% line             enlarge by line/line
% strut            enlarge by ht/dp (default)
% first            align to top line
% last             align to bottom line
% mindepth         round depth down
% maxdepth         round depth up
% minheight        round height down
% maxheight        round height up
% local            use local interline space
% shift:-3tp       vertical shift within box

\definegridsnapping[normal]   [maxheight,maxdepth,strut]
\definegridsnapping[standard] [maxheight,maxdepth,strut]
\definegridsnapping[yes]      [maxheight,maxdepth,strut]

\definegridsnapping[strict]   [\v!maxdepth:0.8,maxheight:0.8,strut]
\definegridsnapping[tolerant] [\v!maxdepth:1.2,maxheight:1.2,strut]

\definegridsnapping[top]      [minheight,maxdepth,strut]
\definegridsnapping[bottom]   [maxheight,mindepth,strut]
\definegridsnapping[both]     [minheight,mindepth,strut]

\definegridsnapping[broad]    [maxheight,maxdepth,strut,0.8]
\definegridsnapping[fit]      [maxheight,maxdepth,strut,1.2]

\definegridsnapping[first]    [first]
\definegridsnapping[last]     [last]
\definegridsnapping[high]     [minheight,maxdepth,none]
\definegridsnapping[low]      [maxheight,mindepth,none]
\definegridsnapping[line]     [line]
\definegridsnapping[strut]    [strut]

\definegridsnapping[max]      [maxdepth,maxheight,strut]
\definegridsnapping[min]      [mindepth,minheight,strut]

eventually an structural elements will have a grid key

Hans

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-13 21:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-12 13:48 Mojca Miklavec
2010-05-12 14:44 ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-05-12 15:15 ` Hans Hagen
2010-05-13 13:42   ` Mojca Miklavec
2010-05-13 13:55     ` luigi scarso
2010-05-13 14:16     ` Hans Hagen
2010-05-13 14:32       ` Khaled Hosny
2010-05-13 15:00         ` Hans Hagen
2010-05-13 17:08           ` Khaled Hosny
2010-05-13 21:09             ` Hans Hagen [this message]
2010-05-14 13:52               ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2010-05-13 18:46           ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس  سماوي حامد
2010-05-13 20:06             ` Khaled Hosny
2010-05-13 19:31               ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس  سماوي حامد
2010-05-13 21:05                 ` Hans Hagen
2010-05-13 20:25               ` Hans Hagen
2010-05-13 21:26                 ` Khaled Hosny
2010-05-13 21:35                   ` Hans Hagen
2010-05-14 12:37                     ` Khaled Hosny
2010-05-14 12:54                       ` Hans Hagen
2010-05-14 13:10                         ` Khaled Hosny
2010-05-14 14:52                       ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد
2010-05-13 18:34       ` Mojca Miklavec
2010-05-13 21:49         ` Hans Hagen
2010-05-14  5:23     ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-05-12 15:20 ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-05-12 15:23   ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-05-12 15:41     ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-05-12 15:45       ` Taco Hoekwater

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