Multiple citations at one position

Multiple citations at one position

[Stefan Müller]

Hi,

I am citing several references at one position in my document and I was 
wondering if there is a way to get something like "[1, 3, 9 - 11]" instead of 
"[1] [3] [9] [10] [11]" (what I would get by using "\cite[ref1] \cite[ref3] 
\cite[ref9] ..."). Unfortunately I can't find some deeper information about 
\cite or \setupcite. I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks in advance,
Stefan.
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Re: Multiple citations at one position

[Hans Hagen]

On 19-5-2010 10:01, Stefan Müller wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am citing several references at one position in my document and I was
> wondering if there is a way to get something like "[1, 3, 9 - 11]" instead of
> "[1] [3] [9] [10] [11]" (what I would get by using "\cite[ref1] \cite[ref3]
> \cite[ref9] ..."). Unfortunately I can't find some deeper information about
> \cite or \setupcite. I'd appreciate any suggestions.

I'm rewriting the bibtex code (which is boring as I have to figure out 
what it's about, even more as most bib test files are a mess.

For the moment it will run alongside the traditional mechanism but the 
new one will have a compatibility mode at some point; some characteristics:

- multiple bibtex sessions and mixed styles in one document
- extensive filtering of entries (using the xml subsystem)
- a different method to set up the styles (apa etc)
- a bit of tracing
- access to the full database (or multiple databases)
- no more need for the bibtex program
- new functionality demanding on user input

I got a first version working but as I don't use bibliographies myself 
it needs a bit of motivation to finish it soon. I'll probably ask others 
to prepare the other styles but first I need to clean up some rough edges.

So, in due time we can do such things but you need a bit of patience.

Hans


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Re: Multiple citations at one position

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Wed, 19 May 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 19-5-2010 10:01, Stefan Müller wrote:
>>  Hi,
>>
>>  I am citing several references at one position in my document and I was
>>  wondering if there is a way to get something like "[1, 3, 9 - 11]" instead
>>  of
>>  "[1] [3] [9] [10] [11]" (what I would get by using "\cite[ref1]
>>  \cite[ref3]
>>  \cite[ref9] ..."). Unfortunately I can't find some deeper information
>>  about
>>  \cite or \setupcite. I'd appreciate any suggestions.
>
> I'm rewriting the bibtex code (which is boring as I have to figure out what 
> it's about, even more as most bib test files are a mess.
>
> For the moment it will run alongside the traditional mechanism but the new 
> one will have a compatibility mode at some point; some characteristics:
>
> - multiple bibtex sessions and mixed styles in one document
> - extensive filtering of entries (using the xml subsystem)
> - a different method to set up the styles (apa etc)
> - a bit of tracing
> - access to the full database (or multiple databases)
> - no more need for the bibtex program
> - new functionality demanding on user input
>
> I got a first version working but as I don't use bibliographies myself it 
> needs a bit of motivation to finish it soon. I'll probably ask others to 
> prepare the other styles but first I need to clean up some rough edges.

If the internal mechanism is using XML, then CSL can be used for styles. 
http://citationstyles.org/

(I don't know much about it other than the fact that it exists and is used 
by Zotero)

Aditya

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Re: Multiple citations at one position

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Le 19 mai à 22:01:25 Stefan Müller <warrence.stm@gmx.de> écrit notamment:

| Hi,
>
| I am citing several references at one position in my document and I was 
| wondering if there is a way to get something like "[1, 3, 9 - 11]" instead of 
| "[1] [3] [9] [10] [11]" (what I would get by using "\cite[ref1] \cite[ref3] 
| \cite[ref9] ..."). Unfortunately I can't find some deeper information about 
| \cite or \setupcite. I'd appreciate any suggestions.
>
| Thanks in advance,
| Stefan.

Did you try "\cite[ref1,ref3,... ref9]" ?

-- 
Jean
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Re: Multiple citations at one position

[Hans Hagen]

On 19-5-2010 11:14, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

> If the internal mechanism is using XML, then CSL can be used for styles.
> http://citationstyles.org/
>
> (I don't know much about it other than the fact that it exists and is
> used by Zotero)

i took a quick look at the ieee one and it looks quite dooable (after 
all, one quickly arrives at somethign with delimiters and separators and 
conditions and so ... always funny to see xml being used with 
conditionals (always looks weird)

Hans

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Re: Multiple citations at one position

[Jaroslav Hajtmar]

Dne 19.5.2010 23:35, Jean Magnan de Bornier napsal(a):
> Le 19 mai à 22:01:25 Stefan Müller<warrence.stm@gmx.de>  écrit notamment:
>
> | Hi,
>    
>>      
> | I am citing several references at one position in my document and I was
> | wondering if there is a way to get something like "[1, 3, 9 - 11]" instead of
> | "[1] [3] [9] [10] [11]" (what I would get by using "\cite[ref1] \cite[ref3]
> | \cite[ref9] ..."). Unfortunately I can't find some deeper information about
> | \cite or \setupcite. I'd appreciate any suggestions.
>    
>>      
> | Thanks in advance,
> | Stefan.
>
> Did you try "\cite[ref1,ref3,... ref9]" ?
>
>    
Yes, it is OK. I am using in MKIV for multiple citation 
\cite[ref1,ref3,... ref9]
Last delimiter is setting due commands \setupcite, for example
default setting (for num style) is \setupcite[num][lastpubsep={ and }]
I am using \setupcite[num][lastpubsep={,\,}] ...

More informations about using bib module (\usemodule[bib] 
\usemodule[bibltx]) is in Taco's document on:
http://www.tug.org/texlive/Contents/live/texmf-dist/doc/context/bib/bibmod-doc.pdf

Jaroslav

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Re: Multiple citations at one position

[Taco Hoekwater]

Stefan Müller wrote:

>>> With this example tex-file I only get "[1]".
>> Confirmed. This is a bug. The above example works correctly with MkII (if 
>> you replace test.bib with an actual bib file)
> 
> So it seems that the actual bug is only about the spaces. It would be rather 
> convenient if I could put the spaces back in. TeXworks for example only wraps 
> lines at spaces.

This should have been fixed in the latest current (2010.05.24).

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: Multiple citations at one position

[Stefan Müller]

> When you put command \cite[ref1,ref2,ref3] % without spaces!!!
> then you get regular restult.
> 
> Jaroslav

I confirm that it works as Jaroslav outlined: I get "[1-3]" when I drop the 
spaces. Thank you very much.

> > With this example tex-file I only get "[1]".
> 
> Confirmed. This is a bug. The above example works correctly with MkII (if 
> you replace test.bib with an actual bib file)

So it seems that the actual bug is only about the spaces. It would be rather 
convenient if I could put the spaces back in. TeXworks for example only wraps 
lines at spaces.

Stefan.
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Re: Multiple citations at one position

[Jaroslav Hajtmar]

When you put command \cite[ref1,ref2,ref3] % without spaces!!!
then you get regular restult.

Jaroslav

Here is my minimal example:

\usemodule[bib]
\setupbibtex[database={test.bib}, sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=ams]

\starttext
\section{Section}
\cite[ref1,ref2,ref3] % without spaces!!! With spaces i.e. \cite[ref1, 
ref2, ref3] get wrong result

\completepublications[criterium=all]
%\placepublications % too for MKIV compilation
\stoptext





Dne 21.5.2010 16:28, Stefan Müller napsal(a):
> Thank you for the fast responses.
>
>    
>> Did you try "\cite[ref1,ref3,... ref9]" ?
>>      
> Yes, I did try this, but instead of "[1,2,3]" or "[1-3]" I just got "[1]".
>
>    
>> Yes, it is OK. I am using in MKIV for multiple citation
>> \cite[ref1,ref3,... ref9]
>> Last delimiter is setting due commands \setupcite, for example
>> default setting (for num style) is \setupcite[num][lastpubsep={ and }]
>> I am using \setupcite[num][lastpubsep={,\,}] ...
>>
>> More informations about using bib module (\usemodule[bib]
>> \usemodule[bibltx]) is in Taco's document on:
>> http://www.tug.org/texlive/Contents/live/texmf-dist/doc/context/bib/bibmod-
>> doc.pdf
>>
>> Jaroslav
>>      
> I tried what you suggested, but without success. I'm using MkIV. My test case
> is:
>
> "\usemodule[bib]
> \setupbibtex[database={test.bib}, sort=author]
> \setuppublications[alternative=ams]
> \setupcite[num][lastpubsep={,\,}]
>
> \starttext
> \section{Section}
> \cite[ref1, ref2, ref3]
> \completepublications
> \stoptext"
>
> With this example tex-file I only get "[1]". Strangely: If I remove either the
> \section or the \completepublications command I get "[]"...
>
> Any ideas what causes this?
>
> Stefan
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Re: Multiple citations at one position

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Fri, 21 May 2010, Stefan Müller wrote:

> Thank you for the fast responses.
>
>> Did you try "\cite[ref1,ref3,... ref9]" ?
>
> Yes, I did try this, but instead of "[1,2,3]" or "[1-3]" I just got "[1]".
>
>> Yes, it is OK. I am using in MKIV for multiple citation
>> \cite[ref1,ref3,... ref9]
>> Last delimiter is setting due commands \setupcite, for example
>> default setting (for num style) is \setupcite[num][lastpubsep={ and }]
>> I am using \setupcite[num][lastpubsep={,\,}] ...
>>
>> More informations about using bib module (\usemodule[bib]
>> \usemodule[bibltx]) is in Taco's document on:
>> http://www.tug.org/texlive/Contents/live/texmf-dist/doc/context/bib/bibmod-
>> doc.pdf
>>
>> Jaroslav
>
> I tried what you suggested, but without success. I'm using MkIV. My test case
> is:
>
> "\usemodule[bib]
> \setupbibtex[database={test.bib}, sort=author]
> \setuppublications[alternative=ams]
> \setupcite[num][lastpubsep={,\,}]
>
> \starttext
> \section{Section}
> \cite[ref1, ref2, ref3]
> \completepublications
> \stoptext"
>
> With this example tex-file I only get "[1]".

Confirmed. This is a bug. The above example works correctly with MkII (if 
you replace test.bib with an actual bib file)

> Strangely: If I remove either the
> \section or the \completepublications command I get "[]"...
>
> Any ideas what causes this?

\completepublications[criterium=all]

Aditya

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Re: Multiple citations at one position

[Stefan Müller]

Thank you for the fast responses.

> Did you try "\cite[ref1,ref3,... ref9]" ?

Yes, I did try this, but instead of "[1,2,3]" or "[1-3]" I just got "[1]".

> Yes, it is OK. I am using in MKIV for multiple citation
> \cite[ref1,ref3,... ref9]
> Last delimiter is setting due commands \setupcite, for example
> default setting (for num style) is \setupcite[num][lastpubsep={ and }]
> I am using \setupcite[num][lastpubsep={,\,}] ...
> 
> More informations about using bib module (\usemodule[bib]
> \usemodule[bibltx]) is in Taco's document on:
> http://www.tug.org/texlive/Contents/live/texmf-dist/doc/context/bib/bibmod-
> doc.pdf
> 
> Jaroslav

I tried what you suggested, but without success. I'm using MkIV. My test case 
is:

"\usemodule[bib]
\setupbibtex[database={test.bib}, sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=ams]
\setupcite[num][lastpubsep={,\,}]

\starttext
\section{Section}
\cite[ref1, ref2, ref3]
\completepublications
\stoptext"

With this example tex-file I only get "[1]". Strangely: If I remove either the 
\section or the \completepublications command I get "[]"...

Any ideas what causes this?

Stefan
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