status message of mtxrun --ifchanged

status message of mtxrun --ifchanged

[Aditya Mahajan]

Hi,

When I run mtxrun --ifchanged, it echoes the status messages on stdout. 
This makes it impossible to use mtxrun --ifchanged as part of a standard 
unix pipe. What is the right way to resolve this?

* Output these messages to stderr rather than stdout?
* Provide a --silent option mtxrun that suppresses all output?

I can parse the generated output and remove the lines starting with 
MTXrun, but that is no fun.

Aditya
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Re: status message of mtxrun --ifchanged

[Hans Hagen]

On 11-6-2010 4:19, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When I run mtxrun --ifchanged, it echoes the status messages on stdout.
> This makes it impossible to use mtxrun --ifchanged as part of a standard
> unix pipe. What is the right way to resolve this?
>
> * Output these messages to stderr rather than stdout?
> * Provide a --silent option mtxrun that suppresses all output?
>
> I can parse the generated output and remove the lines starting with
> MTXrun, but that is no fun.

after discussing it (as well as more generic suppresion message in the 
engine) taco and i decided to go for --verbose instead

new beta

Hans


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Error in installing new beta (was: status message of mtxrun --ifchanged)

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Sat, 12 Jun 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 11-6-2010 4:19, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When I run mtxrun --ifchanged, it echoes the status messages on stdout.
>> This makes it impossible to use mtxrun --ifchanged as part of a standard
>> unix pipe. What is the right way to resolve this?
>> 
>> * Output these messages to stderr rather than stdout?
>> * Provide a --silent option mtxrun that suppresses all output?
>> 
>> I can parse the generated output and remove the lines starting with
>> MTXrun, but that is no fun.
>
> after discussing it (as well as more generic suppresion message in the 
> engine) taco and i decided to go for --verbose instead
>
> new beta

Updating using first-setup.sh gives (also tried a fresh install, the same 
error)


sent 32402 bytes  received 7755726 bytes  65172.62 bytes/sec
total size is 30315844  speedup is 3.89
MTXrun | run: rsync -rpztlv 
contextgarden.net::'minimals/current/misc/setuptex/' '/tmp/context/tex/.'
receiving incremental file list
./
setuptex
setuptex.bat
setuptex.csh
setuptex.tmf

sent 109 bytes  received 6545 bytes  1209.82 bytes/sec
total size is 16420  speedup is 2.47
MTXrun | mtx update: updating mtxrun for linux-64: rsync -tgo --chmod=a+x 
/tmp/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtxrun.lua 
/tmp/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun
MTXrun | run: rsync -tgo --chmod=a+x 
/tmp/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtxrun.lua 
/tmp/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun
/tmp/context/bin/mtxrun:8497: bad argument #3 to 'format' (string 
expected, got no value)


I am on linux-64, if that matters.

Aditya
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Re: Error in installing new beta (was: status message of mtxrun --ifchanged)

[luigi scarso]

> /tmp/context/bin/mtxrun:8497: bad argument #3 to 'format' (string expected,
> got no value)
>
>
> I am on linux-64, if that matters.
The same on my  linux 32bit box

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Re: Error in installing new beta (was: status message of mtxrun --ifchanged)

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Jun 13, 2010, at 1:49 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

> Updating using first-setup.sh gives (also tried a fresh install, the same error)
> 
> 
> sent 32402 bytes  received 7755726 bytes  65172.62 bytes/sec
> total size is 30315844  speedup is 3.89
> MTXrun | run: rsync -rpztlv contextgarden.net::'minimals/current/misc/setuptex/' '/tmp/context/tex/.'
> receiving incremental file list
> ./
> setuptex
> setuptex.bat
> setuptex.csh
> setuptex.tmf
> 
> sent 109 bytes  received 6545 bytes  1209.82 bytes/sec
> total size is 16420  speedup is 2.47
> MTXrun | mtx update: updating mtxrun for linux-64: rsync -tgo --chmod=a+x /tmp/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtxrun.lua /tmp/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun
> MTXrun | run: rsync -tgo --chmod=a+x /tmp/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtxrun.lua /tmp/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun
> /tmp/context/bin/mtxrun:8497: bad argument #3 to 'format' (string expected, got no value)
> 
Same error here on OS X. And another question: I couldn't get my TEXMFHOME recognized under linux-32. One problem was that it is set to ~/texmf-home. I would suggest setting this value back to the canonical ~/texmf. (I had more problems, but I'll have to reboot into linux in order to verify). 

All best

Thomas
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Re: Error in installing new beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 13-6-2010 1:49, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> On 11-6-2010 4:19, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> When I run mtxrun --ifchanged, it echoes the status messages on stdout.
>>> This makes it impossible to use mtxrun --ifchanged as part of a standard
>>> unix pipe. What is the right way to resolve this?
>>>
>>> * Output these messages to stderr rather than stdout?
>>> * Provide a --silent option mtxrun that suppresses all output?
>>>
>>> I can parse the generated output and remove the lines starting with
>>> MTXrun, but that is no fun.
>>
>> after discussing it (as well as more generic suppresion message in the
>> engine) taco and i decided to go for --verbose instead
>>
>> new beta
>
> Updating using first-setup.sh gives (also tried a fresh install, the
> same error)
>
>
> sent 32402 bytes received 7755726 bytes 65172.62 bytes/sec
> total size is 30315844 speedup is 3.89
> MTXrun | run: rsync -rpztlv
> contextgarden.net::'minimals/current/misc/setuptex/' '/tmp/context/tex/.'
> receiving incremental file list
> ../
> setuptex
> setuptex.bat
> setuptex.csh
> setuptex.tmf
>
> sent 109 bytes received 6545 bytes 1209.82 bytes/sec
> total size is 16420 speedup is 2.47
> MTXrun | mtx update: updating mtxrun for linux-64: rsync -tgo
> --chmod=a+x
> /tmp/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtxrun.lua
> /tmp/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun
> MTXrun | run: rsync -tgo --chmod=a+x
> /tmp/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtxrun.lua
> /tmp/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun
> /tmp/context/bin/mtxrun:8497: bad argument #3 to 'format' (string
> expected, got no value)

some tracing issue ...

can you print(fmt,...) in simple and see what logs.report is involved?

local function simple(fmt,...)
     if fmt then



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Re: Error in installing new beta (was: status message of mtxrun --ifchanged)

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> Same error here on OS X. And another question: I couldn't get my TEXMFHOME recognized under linux-32. One problem was that it is set to ~/texmf-home. I would suggest setting this value back to the canonical ~/texmf. (I had more problems, but I'll have to reboot into linux in order to verify). 

OK, this problem is gone with the latest beta. The problem with the wrong value of TEXMFHOME persists. In a pristine texmfcnf.lua, this is set (l. 25)

TEXMFHOME       = "~/texmf-home", -- "tree:///~/texmf

for mkii, however, it is set in texmf.cnf (l. 31)

TEXMFHOME     = $HOME/texmf

why these two different values? I consider texmf-home as wrong. 

Moreover, when I set this to a sane value

TEXMFHOME       = "/Users/tas/texmf", -- "tree:///~/texmf

and then re-run mtxrun --generate, I get this error:

MTXrun |
MTXrun | fileio: scanning path 'tree:////Users/tas/texmf'
/Users/tas/context/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun:9094: cannot open tree:////Users/tas/texmf/: No such file or directory

I have no idea what the notation 'tree:////' is supposed to do. /Users/tas/texmf does indeed exist and works with the beta before the scripts were changed. So I'm somewhat stymied. 

Thomas
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Re: Error in installing new beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 13-6-2010 7:32, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
> On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
>> Same error here on OS X. And another question: I couldn't get my TEXMFHOME recognized under linux-32. One problem was that it is set to ~/texmf-home. I would suggest setting this value back to the canonical ~/texmf. (I had more problems, but I'll have to reboot into linux in order to verify).
>
> OK, this problem is gone with the latest beta. The problem with the wrong value of TEXMFHOME persists. In a pristine texmfcnf.lua, this is set (l. 25)
>
> TEXMFHOME       = "~/texmf-home", -- "tree:///~/texmf
>
> for mkii, however, it is set in texmf.cnf (l. 31)
>
> TEXMFHOME     = $HOME/texmf
>
> why these two different values? I consider texmf-home as wrong.

because i dislike having a 'texmf' other than the main one anywhere (if 
only because it makes tracing a pain) .. i'll set it to texmf but will 
probably add some warnings in a future version

> Moreover, when I set this to a sane value
>
> TEXMFHOME       = "/Users/tas/texmf", -- "tree:///~/texmf
>
> and then re-run mtxrun --generate, I get this error:
>
> MTXrun |
> MTXrun | fileio: scanning path 'tree:////Users/tas/texmf'
> /Users/tas/context/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun:9094: cannot open tree:////Users/tas/texmf/: No such file or directory

strange as that should be intercepted. I'll see what my mac does with it 
when i hav eit up and running.

> I have no idea what the notation 'tree:////' is supposed to do. /Users/tas/texmf does indeed exist and works with the beta before the scripts were changed. So I'm somewhat stymied.

tree:// is just one of the uri's supported (and permits loading files 
from some tree) and this scheme is autoinserted when no !! is used; the 
!! will become cache:// .. much of that is still experimental

Hans


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Re: Error in installing new beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Jun 13, 2010, at 10:58 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 13-6-2010 7:32, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> TEXMFHOME       = "~/texmf-home", -- "tree:///~/texmf
>> 
>> for mkii, however, it is set in texmf.cnf (l. 31)
>> 
>> TEXMFHOME     = $HOME/texmf
>> 
>> why these two different values? I consider texmf-home as wrong.
> 
> because i dislike having a 'texmf' other than the main one anywhere (if only because it makes tracing a pain) .. i'll set it to texmf but will probably add some warnings in a future version
> 

Well, I know that, we've been discussing it for a while. But then both mkii and mkiv still should have  the same value. And ~/texmf is the canonical thing; disregarding it will confuse any casual user. 

> 
> strange as that should be intercepted. I'll see what my mac does with it when i hav eit up and running.
> 
I get the same behavior on linux.

> 
> tree:// is just one of the uri's supported (and permits loading files from some tree) and this scheme is autoinserted when no !! is used; the !! will become cache:// .. much of that is still experimental

OK, thanks for the info. I used to have my own configuration, but environment variables aren't used any more. How does mkiv store the config information now? How could I overwrite the values that mtxrun --variables shows? 

All best

Thomas

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Re: Error in installing new beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 23:06, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
> OK, thanks for the info. I used to have my own configuration, but environment variables aren't used any more. How does mkiv store the config information now? How could I overwrite the values that mtxrun --variables shows?

I didn't test, but creating your own version of texmfcnf.lua inside
texmf-local/web2c might help, though I didn't test it (it might be a
chicken-and-egg problem to locate that lua file, but texmf-local
should work; if it doesn't, one should better fix it).

I'm working on someone else's computer and don't find it too
comfortable to test anything from here (I'm not even able to type on
qwerz any more). I see there were many other error reports in the last
few days as well ...

Mojca
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Re: Error in installing new beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 13-6-2010 11:13, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> I'm working on someone else's computer and don't find it too
> comfortable to test anything from here (I'm not even able to type on
> qwerz any more). I see there were many other error reports in the last
> few days as well ...

i'm looking into it ... one problem is that we run a mtxrun underbin 
while the real mtxrun later sits under texmf-* and this confuses the 
logic that generates the databases

these are all side effects of future multiple cache support and playing 
nice with texlive related vars and that has to work with all kind of 
setups

in the end it will work

Hans

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Re: Error in installing new beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 13-6-2010 11:06, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> OK, thanks for the info. I used to have my own configuration, but environment variables aren't used any more. How does mkiv store the config information now? How could I overwrite the values that mtxrun --variables shows?

environment variables should still win from variables set in the 
configuration file (if it needs to be fixed) but there is some new 
discovery code

i didn't test it yet, but you can have your own configration file and it 
will be loaded too (and merged where the first loaed var wins)

in principle it works like texmf.cnf but in the future we might have 
more options in the (now used) lua variant

Hans


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