TeX Gyre Heros Condensed missing in typescript / letterspacing

TeX Gyre Heros Condensed missing in typescript / letterspacing

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hi ho,

I just noticed that Heros CN is missing in type-otf.mkiv. Would you
add it please?
The fonts are in the minimal distribution.

Using it, I find it unnecessary tight - how can I space it a bit? (using MkIV)
I found \stretchednormalcase, but I'd like to enable it per-font.


Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: TeX Gyre Heros Condensed missing in typescript / letterspacing

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 23.06.2010 um 16:08 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net>:

> Hi ho,
> 
> I just noticed that Heros CN is missing in type-otf.mkiv. Would you
> add it please?
> The fonts are in the minimal distribution.
> 
> Using it, I find it unnecessary tight - how can I space it a bit? (using MkIV)
> I found \stretchednormalcase, but I'd like to enable it per-font.


This is currently not possible but you can try this:

\definecharacterkerning[extraspace][factor=.05]

\setcharacterkerning[extraspace]

\starttext
...
\stoptext

Wolfgang


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Re: TeX Gyre Heros Condensed missing in typescript / letterspacing

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

2010/6/23 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>:
>> Using it, I find it unnecessary tight - how can I space it a bit? (using MkIV)
>> I found \stretchednormalcase, but I'd like to enable it per-font.
>
> This is currently not possible but you can try this:
> \definecharacterkerning[extraspace][factor=.05]
> \setcharacterkerning[extraspace]

Thank you, that's good enough for me.


Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: TeX Gyre Heros Condensed missing in typescript / letterspacing

[Otared Kavian]

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Hi Wolfgang, Hraban,

Just testing the feature suggested by Wolfgang, I ran into a « fatal error » on one test file, which I could nail down to this minimal example:

\definecharacterkerning[extraspace][factor=.05]
\setcharacterkerning[extraspace]
\starttext
affine, fil,  
affligeant % <-- afflig in this word causes problem
\stoptext

Somehow mkiv doesn't like the word «affligeant »… which, by the way, means distressing :-)

Best regards: OK

On 23 juin 2010, at 16:57, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> 
> Am 23.06.2010 um 16:08 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net>:
> 
>> Hi ho,
>> 
>> I just noticed that Heros CN is missing in type-otf.mkiv. Would you
>> add it please?
>> The fonts are in the minimal distribution.
>> 
>> Using it, I find it unnecessary tight - how can I space it a bit? (using MkIV)
>> I found \stretchednormalcase, but I'd like to enable it per-font.
> 
> 
> This is currently not possible but you can try this:
> 
> \definecharacterkerning[extraspace][factor=.05]
> 
> \setcharacterkerning[extraspace]
> 
> \starttext
> ...
> \stoptext
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
> 
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Re: TeX Gyre Heros Condensed missing in typescript / letterspacing

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 23.06.2010 um 19:44 schrieb Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com>:

> Hi Wolfgang, Hraban,
> 
> Just testing the feature suggested by Wolfgang, I ran into a « fatal error » on one test file, which I could nail down to this minimal example:
> 
> \definecharacterkerning[extraspace][factor=.05]
> \setcharacterkerning[extraspace]
> \starttext
> affine, fil,  
> affligeant % <-- afflig in this word causes problem
> \stoptext
> 
> Somehow mkiv doesn't like the word «affligeant »… which, by the way, means distressing :-)

Is it the the word affligeant or just the ffl ligature which causes the error message (can't check it at the moment) but extrakerning is just a workaround in this case and problems are likely to be expected.

Wolfgang
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Re: TeX Gyre Heros Condensed missing in typescript / letterspacing

[Otared Kavian]

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On 23 juin 2010, at 19:55, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> […]
> Is it the the word affligeant or just the ffl ligature which causes the error message

the combination affli creates the fatal error, while ffli does not.

> (can't check it at the moment) but extrakerning is just a workaround in this case and problems are likely to be expected.
> 

Don't worry, I wanted just to report a problem I observed: I don't think I am going to use this fancy feature very soon.

Best regards: OK


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Re: TeX Gyre Heros Condensed missing in typescript / letterspacing

[Hans Hagen]

On 23-6-2010 8:12, Otared Kavian wrote:
>
> On 23 juin 2010, at 19:55, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> […]
>> Is it the the word affligeant or just the ffl ligature which causes the error message
>
> the combination affli creates the fatal error, while ffli does not.
>
>> (can't check it at the moment) but extrakerning is just a workaround in this case and problems are likely to be expected.
>>
>
> Don't worry, I wanted just to report a problem I observed: I don't think I am going to use this fancy feature very soon.

that one's for taco

For node p:=0, 4==0 (l.1342,r.1)
! This can't happen (dotest).

(we will look into it off-list, once i know where it comes from)

Hans


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Re: TeX Gyre Heros Condensed missing in typescript / letterspacing

[Hans Hagen]

On 23-6-2010 7:44, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi Wolfgang, Hraban,
>
> Just testing the feature suggested by Wolfgang, I ran into a « fatal error » on one test file, which I could nail down to this minimal example:
>
> \definecharacterkerning[extraspace][factor=.05]
> \setcharacterkerning[extraspace]
> \starttext
> affine, fil,
> affligeant %<-- afflig in this word causes problem
> \stoptext
>
> Somehow mkiv doesn't like the word «affligeant »… which, by the way, means distressing :-)

if you use character kerning, you should disable liga

Hans

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Re: TeX Gyre Heros Condensed missing in typescript / letterspacing

[Hans Hagen]

On 23-6-2010 7:44, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi Wolfgang, Hraban,
>
> Just testing the feature suggested by Wolfgang, I ran into a « fatal error » on one test file, which I could nail down to this minimal example:
>
> \definecharacterkerning[extraspace][factor=.05]
> \setcharacterkerning[extraspace]
> \starttext
> affine, fil,
> affligeant %<-- afflig in this word causes problem
> \stoptext

I got rid of the error at the cost of leaking glyph nodes.

The ffl is somewhat special as it is actually chained into two
ligatures:

f f l -> ff l -> ffl

Keep in mind that characterkerning is normally not something that you 
will apply to a whole document (make it quite large too) and I have no 
clue about side effects.

Hans


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