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* Footnotes into a single paragraph (mkiv)
@ 2010-07-24  6:19 Markus Finke
  2010-07-30 15:04 ` Markus Finke
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From: Markus Finke @ 2010-07-24  6:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello,

I need footnotes as a single paragraph at the bottom of each page for a 
second footnote system with

\definenote [secondnote] [numberconversion=set 2]

It’s the style of footnotes in critical editions – what’s the option for 
"para"?

Thanks,
Markus
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* Re: Footnotes into a single paragraph (mkiv)
  2010-07-24  6:19 Footnotes into a single paragraph (mkiv) Markus Finke
@ 2010-07-30 15:04 ` Markus Finke
  2010-07-30 17:02   ` Hans Hagen
  2010-07-30 22:28   ` Hans Hagen
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From: Markus Finke @ 2010-07-30 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Can anybody help me? I don’t want to fall back on LaTeX because I would 
miss a lot of features for fonts and I prefer the smoother usability 
writing in ConTEXt.

Is there any hope for this (not to rare) design in footnotes?
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* Re: Footnotes into a single paragraph (mkiv)
  2010-07-30 15:04 ` Markus Finke
@ 2010-07-30 17:02   ` Hans Hagen
  2010-07-30 21:59     ` Markus Finke
  2010-07-30 22:28   ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-07-30 17:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 30-7-2010 5:04, Markus Finke wrote:
> Can anybody help me? I don’t want to fall back on LaTeX because I would
> miss a lot of features for fonts and I prefer the smoother usability
> writing in ConTEXt.
>
> Is there any hope for this (not to rare) design in footnotes?

local notes or page notes

in mkii there is an option (n=0,location=text) but not yet in mkiv ... I 
delayed it till we had opened up more of the pagebuilder in luatex (as 
now we need some real hackery .. inserts are not really made for that)

i can have a look at it

Hans


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* Re: Footnotes into a single paragraph (mkiv)
  2010-07-30 17:02   ` Hans Hagen
@ 2010-07-30 21:59     ` Markus Finke
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From: Markus Finke @ 2010-07-30 21:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> local notes or page notes

There is no ready for use implementation for critical typesetting. So I 
have to  recreate the appearance of it:

http://www.djdekker.net/ledmac/sample-edition.pdf

It’s necessary to suppress all footnotenumbers and to set linenumbers 
instead (\inline[ab:c] whitout the output »line«).

I would really appreciate a solution in that sense.


Thanks a lot of all your efforts!

Markus
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* Re: Footnotes into a single paragraph (mkiv)
  2010-07-30 15:04 ` Markus Finke
  2010-07-30 17:02   ` Hans Hagen
@ 2010-07-30 22:28   ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-07-30 22:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 30-7-2010 5:04, Markus Finke wrote:
> Can anybody help me? I don’t want to fall back on LaTeX because I would
> miss a lot of features for fonts and I prefer the smoother usability
> writing in ConTEXt.
>
> Is there any hope for this (not to rare) design in footnotes?

I uploaded an alpha release. You need to take the alpha zip from the 
website and unpack it in texmf-context.

This is just a test.

% \enabletrackers[structure.notes]

\setupnote 
[footnote][paragraph=yes,numbercommand=,inbetween=\hskip.5em\vl\hskip.5em]
\setupdescriptions[footnote][paragraph=no,location=serried,distance=.5em] % 
before=,after=

\starttext

\startlocalfootnotes
     local 1a\footnote{local note 1a}
     local 1b\footnote{local note 1b}
     \placelocalfootnotes
\stoplocalfootnotes

\blank
global 1a\footnote{global note 1a}
global 1b\footnote{global note 1b}
\blank

\startlocalfootnotes
     local 2a\footnote{local note 2a}
     local 2b\footnote{local note 2b}
     \placelocalfootnotes
\stoplocalfootnotes

\blank
global 2a\footnote{global note 2a}
global 2b\footnote{global note 2b}
\blank

\startlocalfootnotes
     local 3a\footnote{local note 3a}
     local 3b\footnote{local note 3b}
     \placelocalfootnotes
\stoplocalfootnotes

\blank
global 2a\footnote{\input tufte }
global 2b\footnote{global note 2b}
\blank

\stoptext

You need to be a bit tolerant with this mechanism. It uses the same 
trick as in mkii, and you can find more about the trick used on pages 
398 and 399 of the texbook.

The inbetween material cannot be too large. Also, the distance between 
the text and footnotes should be large enough to catch a potential 
overflow, although normally there is enough stretch in a paragraph.

(I can support ragged right if needed, but it would involve another trick.)

ps for Wolfgang: we need to discuss this at the context meeting. Maybe 
we should have some predefined variants. As you're looking into 
parameters (the cont-en.xml thing) ... we need to check those related to 
notes and descriptions, as there are some subtle differences with mkii.

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