footnotes again

footnotes again

[Thomas Schmitz]

Hi all,

I'm sorry I have to ask again about footnotes setup. I 
misunderstood the
style that our publisher wants. Maybe it's easiest when I 
do a bit of ASCII
art (will only work with a fixed-width font):

| texttexttexttexttex |
| textexttexttexttext |
|                     |
|  9 footnote 9, more |
|    than one line.   |
| 10 footnote 10.     |

So: the footnote numbers in the footnotes are typeset in a 
box. This box is
just big enough to hold a three-digit footnote number. Its 
left edge is
flush with the text area. Within this box, the note number 
is aligned
flushright. The footnote text itself is one block; this 
block is indented a
fixed amount: the publisher wants all indentations (normal 
paragraphs,
blockquotes, footnotes) to be identical; let's say 16pt.

I played with the parameters of \setupnotedefinition and 
\setupfootnotes
that Wolfgang taught me yesterday, but I just can't find 
the right
combination.

Will wikify!

All best

Thomas
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Re: footnotes again

[Hans Hagen]

On 3-8-2010 10:07, Thomas Schmitz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm sorry I have to ask again about footnotes setup. I misunderstood the
> style that our publisher wants. Maybe it's easiest when I do a bit of ASCII
> art (will only work with a fixed-width font):
>
> | texttexttexttexttex |
> | textexttexttexttext |
> | |
> | 9 footnote 9, more |
> | than one line. |
> | 10 footnote 10. |
>
> So: the footnote numbers in the footnotes are typeset in a box. This box is
> just big enough to hold a three-digit footnote number. Its left edge is
> flush with the text area. Within this box, the note number is aligned
> flushright. The footnote text itself is one block; this block is indented a
> fixed amount: the publisher wants all indentations (normal paragraphs,
> blockquotes, footnotes) to be identical; let's say 16pt.
>
> I played with the parameters of \setupnotedefinition and \setupfootnotes
> that Wolfgang taught me yesterday, but I just can't find the right
> combination.

it's an interaction between parameters (different meaning in notes as 
description) .. side effect of par notes .. need a bit of thinking but 
solvable

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Re: footnotes again

[Hans Hagen]

On 3-8-2010 10:07, Thomas Schmitz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm sorry I have to ask again about footnotes setup. I misunderstood the
> style that our publisher wants. Maybe it's easiest when I do a bit of ASCII
> art (will only work with a fixed-width font):
>
> | texttexttexttexttex |
> | textexttexttexttext |
> | |
> | 9 footnote 9, more |
> | than one line. |
> | 10 footnote 10. |
>
> So: the footnote numbers in the footnotes are typeset in a box. This box is
> just big enough to hold a three-digit footnote number. Its left edge is
> flush with the text area. Within this box, the note number is aligned
> flushright. The footnote text itself is one block; this block is indented a
> fixed amount: the publisher wants all indentations (normal paragraphs,
> blockquotes, footnotes) to be identical; let's say 16pt.
>
> I played with the parameters of \setupnotedefinition and \setupfootnotes
> that Wolfgang taught me yesterday, but I just can't find the right
> combination.
>
> Will wikify!

this works again:

\starttext

\showframe

\setupnotedefinition[footnote][location=left,width=1cm]
\setupnote[footnote][location=page,numbercommand=]

test \footnote{test}

\stoptext

this has changed (display key):

\setupnote 
[footnote][paragraph=yes,numbercommand=,inbetween=\hskip.5em\vl\hskip.5em]
\setupdescriptions[footnote][display=no,location=serried,distance=.5em] 
% before=,after=

\starttext

\startlocalfootnotes
     local 1a\footnote{local note 1a}
     local 1b\footnote{local note 1b}
     \placelocalfootnotes
\stoplocalfootnotes

\blank
global 1a\footnote{global note 1a}
global 1b\footnote{global note 1b}
\blank

\startlocalfootnotes
     local 2a\footnote{local note 2a}
     local 2b\footnote{local note 2b}
     \placelocalfootnotes
\stoplocalfootnotes

\blank
global 2a\footnote{global note 2a}
global 2b\footnote{global note 2b}
\blank

\startlocalfootnotes
     local 3a\footnote{local note 3a}
     local 3b\footnote{local note 3b}
     \placelocalfootnotes
\stoplocalfootnotes

\blank
global 2a\footnote{\input tufte }
global 2b\footnote{global note 2b}
\blank

\stoptext



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Re: footnotes again

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Aug 4, 2010, at 1:59 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> this works again:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \showframe
> 
> \setupnotedefinition[footnote][location=left,width=1cm]
> \setupnote[footnote][location=page,numbercommand=]
> 
> test \footnote{test}
> 
> \stoptext

Great, this is what I need! I have adapted it like so to have the numbers flushright in a box:

\starttext

\def\NoteNumber#1{\showboxes\hbox to 16pt{\hbox to 12.5pt{\strut\hfill #1}}}

\showframe

\setupnotedefinition[footnote][location=left,width=16pt]
\setupnote[footnote][location=page,numbercommand=\NoteNumber]

\dorecurse{11}{Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur sadipscing elitr, sed
  diam nonumy eirmod tempor invidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliquyam
  erat, sed diam voluptua.\footnote{Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur
    sadipscing elitr, sed diam nonumy eirmod tempor note \recurselevel
    .}\par}

\stoptext

So, before I wikify: \setupnotedefinition[location=left,width=<dimension>] controls the width of the area where the number will be typeset and of the indentation. But which key controls whether the number is typeset in the margin or in the text area?

Thanks!

Thomas
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Re: footnotes again

[Hans Hagen]

On 4-8-2010 12:03, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> So, before I wikify: \setupnotedefinition[location=left,width=<dimension>] controls the width of the area where the number will be typeset and of the indentation. But which key controls whether the number is typeset in the margin or in the text area?

location ... note are just descriptions; so there's also distance and so

(btw, in principle, as notes are also list entries, you could call them 
up in an appendix as well, but I didn't test that)

Hans

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