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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta with some bugfixes and new features

= bookmarks:

force forces subject into the bookmarks:

\placebookmarks[chapter,section,subsection,subsubsection,subject][all][force=yes] 


dedicated optional configuration:

\setupbookmarks[numberstarter=<,numberstopper=>]

control over numbers:

\setupbookmarks[number=no]    % for any following
\placebookmarks...[number=no] % for given entries

you can give multiple \placebookmarks commands as they accumulate

= sectioning

\placelist[chapter][criterium=text,interaction=all]

with

\setuphead[chapter][interaction=list]

you also get backlinks

= pdf/x

Peter and I sorted out some issues and believe that we now have a 
reasonable interface. Examples are in pdf-x*.mkiv in the distribution.

\setupbackend
   [format=valid pdf/x name,
    profile=name.icc,
    intent=name.icc,
    level=compresslevel, % default 3
    file=optional specification file,
    option=always|never]

(I'll make a --directives=backend.showformats one of these days.)

Peter will probably have some more explanation later (what formats, 
tracing, when to use what, etc). We hope to wrap it up in an article 
some day.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Martin Schröder]

2010/8/10 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> \setupbackend
>  [format=valid pdf/x name,
>   profile=name.icc,
>   intent=name.icc,
>   level=compresslevel, % default 3

Does it correctly handle x-4? That's a lot harder then x-3.

Best
   Martin
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Re: beta

[Peter Rolf]

Am 10.08.2010 19:09, schrieb Martin Schröder:
> 2010/8/10 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
>> \setupbackend
>>  [format=valid pdf/x name,
>>   profile=name.icc,
>>   intent=name.icc,
>>   level=compresslevel, % default 3
> 
> Does it correctly handle x-4? That's a lot harder then x-3.
> 
See for yourself...

<tex-path>/texmf-context/tex/context/test/pdf-x4.mkiv (also 'p' variant)

But you need 'sRGB.icc' and 'ISO Coated v2 (ECI).icc' for the test
files. I'll try to make all the predefined profiles available on the
Wiki in the next few days. The profiles can then be stored under

<tex-path>/texmf-context/color/icc/profiles/

or by setting $OSCOLORDIR
(haven't tested the later option yet; Hans knows the dirty details)

if you already have installed them for other software.

Happy testing :-)


Peter
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 10-8-2010 7:09, Martin Schröder wrote:
> 2010/8/10 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>:
>> \setupbackend
>>   [format=valid pdf/x name,
>>    profile=name.icc,
>>    intent=name.icc,
>>    level=compresslevel, % default 3
>
> Does it correctly handle x-4? That's a lot harder then x-3.

in what respect?

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta. In lmtx there is now a bit more advanced support for 
svg. A preliminary manual is included that explains a few things.

As a teaser ... it is also possible to embed svg code, as in:

\startbuffer[svgtest]
<svg>
     <circle
         cx="50" cy="50" r="40"
         stroke="green" stroke-width="10" stroke-opacity="0.3"
         fill="red" fill-opacity="0.3"
     />
     <circle
         cx="150" cy="50" r="40"
         stroke="green" stroke-width="10"
         fill="red"
         opacity="0.3"
     />
</svg>
\stopbuffer

\startTEXpage
     \includesvgbuffer[svgtest]
\stopTEXpage

\startTEXpage
     \includesvgbuffer[svgtest][offset=2bp]
\stopTEXpage

or in metapost disguise:

\startMPpage
     vardef svg expr c = lmt_svg [ code = c ] enddef ;

     draw svg "<svg>
         <circle
             cx='50' cy='50' r='40'
             stroke='green' stroke-width='10' stroke-opacity='0.3'
             fill='red' fill-opacity='0.3'
         />
         <circle
             cx='150' cy='50' r='40'
             stroke='green' stroke-width='10'
             fill='red'
             opacity='0.3'
         />
     </svg>" ;
\stopMPpage

It is not a replacement for metapost (which is more efficient runtime 
anbyway) but for artistic images a mixture might work out ok.

In principle inclusion with externalfigure also works when 
conversion=mps is set but, although I have some 1500 test images, not 
all might work out well. There can be a lot of crap be hidden in svg 
files and angle brackets are no guarantee for properly structured 
images. Especially fonts can be troublesome. On the other hand, if one 
has very structured input, text labels can be swapped for propertly 
typeset ones (like math), but that's for later to explain (experimental 
stuff). We'll see.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Floris van Manen]

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On 28-10-2019 19:20, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
> As a teaser ... it is also possible to embed svg code, as in:
> 
> \startbuffer[svgtest]
> <svg>
>     <circle
>         cx="50" cy="50" r="40"
>         stroke="green" stroke-width="10" stroke-opacity="0.3"
>         fill="red" fill-opacity="0.3"
>     />
>     <circle
>         cx="150" cy="50" r="40"
>         stroke="green" stroke-width="10"
>         fill="red"
>         opacity="0.3"
>     />
> </svg>
> \stopbuffer
> 
> \startTEXpage
>     \includesvgbuffer[svgtest]
> \stopTEXpage
> 
> \startTEXpage
>     \includesvgbuffer[svgtest][offset=2bp]
> \stopTEXpage

Nice !
It seems that it does not retains the <g> grouping and layering in
place. e.g. everything ends up in one layer and one group.

.Floris


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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 10/28/2019 10:00 PM, Floris van Manen wrote:
> 
> 
> On 28-10-2019 19:20, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>> As a teaser ... it is also possible to embed svg code, as in:
>>
>> \startbuffer[svgtest]
>> <svg>
>>      <circle
>>          cx="50" cy="50" r="40"
>>          stroke="green" stroke-width="10" stroke-opacity="0.3"
>>          fill="red" fill-opacity="0.3"
>>      />
>>      <circle
>>          cx="150" cy="50" r="40"
>>          stroke="green" stroke-width="10"
>>          fill="red"
>>          opacity="0.3"
>>      />
>> </svg>
>> \stopbuffer
>>
>> \startTEXpage
>>      \includesvgbuffer[svgtest]
>> \stopTEXpage
>>
>> \startTEXpage
>>      \includesvgbuffer[svgtest][offset=2bp]
>> \stopTEXpage
> 
> Nice !
> It seems that it does not retains the <g> grouping and layering in
> place. e.g. everything ends up in one layer and one group.
You mean: produce pdf layers? Well, imo usage of <g> is so messy and 
inconsistent that it doesn't pay off, apart from overhead. But grouping 
as way of combining properties is supported.

Hans


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Re: beta

[Floris van Manen]

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On 29-10-2019 14:21, Hans Hagen wrote:
> You mean: produce pdf layers? Well, imo usage of <g> is so messy and
> inconsistent that it doesn't pay off, apart from overhead. But grouping
> as way of combining properties is supported.
> 

the cause might be outside context.
e.g. it might be that the layers/grouping are dropped by inkscape while
importing the pdf.

if i export the original svg as a pdf within inkscape, then re-import it
again, the layers/grouping are gone too.

not urgent, as many other paths exist ;-)
.F


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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

A week ago we had the (nice and pleasant) annual context meeting and as 
usual some new stuff has been presented there which was not yet in the 
distribution at that moment. Some pending code is now being moved into 
the distribution. Part is font related (lmtx only, not relevant for most 
users), most is metafun (luametafun or metafun xl or whatever name 
suits) related (including a new preliminary manual) which uses some new 
interfaces and therefore (currently) is lmtx only.

At the meeting Mojca and Harald did some experiments with the whole 
range of raspberry pi's (as part of upgrading the compile farm with a pi 
4). The outcomes can be found at

https://meeting.contextgarden.net/2019/talks/2019-09-20-harald-pi/to_pi_or_not_to_pi.pdf

(There are some more slides there.)

Because running tex on a 4 (with plenty of memory and an external ssd) 
is more reasonable than on the older models, I've added an lmtx 
installer for the pi. Some measurements with (really) simple runs show 
that performance is 3-4 times less than my laptop, which is not that bad 
(it helps that the 4 has a decent ethernet and usb3 bus); I don't know 
about more complex tests.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On 29.09.19 16:31, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> A week ago we had the (nice and pleasant) annual context meeting and as 
> usual some new stuff has been presented there which was not yet in the 
> distribution at that moment. Some pending code is now being moved into 
> the distribution. Part is font related (lmtx only, not relevant for most 
> users), most is metafun (luametafun or metafun xl or whatever name 
> suits) related (including a new preliminary manual) which uses some new 
> interfaces and therefore (currently) is lmtx only.

Hi Hans,

I just updated. I had to delete the cache for context to work again, got 
weird errors compiling a file that works normally. So my question: since 
creating a new cache and format takes only a few seconds, wouldn't it 
make sense to include it in install.sh ?

All best, thanks for the new version

Thomas
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 9/30/2019 2:11 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On 29.09.19 16:31, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> A week ago we had the (nice and pleasant) annual context meeting and 
>> as usual some new stuff has been presented there which was not yet in 
>> the distribution at that moment. Some pending code is now being moved 
>> into the distribution. Part is font related (lmtx only, not relevant 
>> for most users), most is metafun (luametafun or metafun xl or whatever 
>> name suits) related (including a new preliminary manual) which uses 
>> some new interfaces and therefore (currently) is lmtx only.
> 
> Hi Hans,
> 
> I just updated. I had to delete the cache for context to work again, got 
> weird errors compiling a file that works normally. So my question: since 
> creating a new cache and format takes only a few seconds, wouldn't it 
> make sense to include it in install.sh ?
I've added that feature but one needs the new install.sh script then 
(from the zip).

(We also added openbsd installers.)

Hans

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Re: beta

[Alan Bowen]

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Hi, Hans—

The latest lmtx now processes my docs as it should when texmf-cache was
deleted before installation. So, where is this zip that has the revised
install.sh script?

Alan

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 7:06 AM Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> On 9/30/2019 2:11 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> > On 29.09.19 16:31, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> A week ago we had the (nice and pleasant) annual context meeting and
> >> as usual some new stuff has been presented there which was not yet in
> >> the distribution at that moment. Some pending code is now being moved
> >> into the distribution. Part is font related (lmtx only, not relevant
> >> for most users), most is metafun (luametafun or metafun xl or whatever
> >> name suits) related (including a new preliminary manual) which uses
> >> some new interfaces and therefore (currently) is lmtx only.
> >
> > Hi Hans,
> >
> > I just updated. I had to delete the cache for context to work again, got
> > weird errors compiling a file that works normally. So my question: since
> > creating a new cache and format takes only a few seconds, wouldn't it
> > make sense to include it in install.sh ?
> I've added that feature but one needs the new install.sh script then
> (from the zip).
>
> (We also added openbsd installers.)
>
> Hans
>
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Re: beta

[Hans van der Meer]

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You can add to the end of the install script:

echo "Removing luatex-cache/context"
rm -r tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context

dr. Hans van der Meer


> On 2 Oct 2019, at 15:32, Alan Bowen <bowenalan03@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Hans—
> 
> The latest lmtx now processes my docs as it should when texmf-cache was deleted before installation. So, where is this zip that has the revised install.sh script?
> 
> Alan
> 
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 7:06 AM Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl <mailto:j.hagen@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> On 9/30/2019 2:11 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> > On 29.09.19 16:31, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> A week ago we had the (nice and pleasant) annual context meeting and 
> >> as usual some new stuff has been presented there which was not yet in 
> >> the distribution at that moment. Some pending code is now being moved 
> >> into the distribution. Part is font related (lmtx only, not relevant 
> >> for most users), most is metafun (luametafun or metafun xl or whatever 
> >> name suits) related (including a new preliminary manual) which uses 
> >> some new interfaces and therefore (currently) is lmtx only.
> > 
> > Hi Hans,
> > 
> > I just updated. I had to delete the cache for context to work again, got 
> > weird errors compiling a file that works normally. So my question: since 
> > creating a new cache and format takes only a few seconds, wouldn't it 
> > make sense to include it in install.sh ?
> I've added that feature but one needs the new install.sh script then 
> (from the zip).
> 
> (We also added openbsd installers.)
> 
> Hans
> 
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Re: beta

[Jan U. Hasecke]

Am 02.10.19 um 16:06 schrieb Hans van der Meer:
> You can add to the end of the install script:
> 
> echo "Removing luatex-cache/context"
> rm -r tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context
> 

I reinstalled 64 bit Linux from http://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm and
now it works again. Thanks a lot for supporting debian stable again.

One thing, with:

mtxrun --autogenerate --script context

as suggested by the install script I get

unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'

The command "/home/juh/context-linux-64/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/context"
works.

Any hints?
TIA
juh
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 10/2/2019 4:35 PM, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:
> Am 02.10.19 um 16:06 schrieb Hans van der Meer:
>> You can add to the end of the install script:
>>
>> echo "Removing luatex-cache/context"
>> rm -r tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context
>>
> 
> I reinstalled 64 bit Linux from http://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm and
> now it works again. Thanks a lot for supporting debian stable again.
> 
> One thing, with:
> 
> mtxrun --autogenerate --script context
> 
> as suggested by the install script I get
> 
> unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
> 
> The command "/home/juh/context-linux-64/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/context"
> works.

you need to have /home/juh/context-linux-64/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin in 
your path or use fully qualified paths

'mtxrun' and 'context' are aliases of 'luametatex'

Hans


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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 10/2/2019 4:06 PM, Hans van der Meer wrote:
> You can add to the end of the install script:
> 
> echo "Removing luatex-cache/context"
> rm -r tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context
i updatex mtx-cache

mtxrun --script cache --list
mtxrun --script cache --erase
mtxrun --script cache --erase --make

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta (as we're now post current again). The lmtx 
installation is normally also updated in sync but sometimes can be a bit 
ahead as I myself use that as default.

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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta (as we're now post current again). The lmtx 
> installation is normally also updated in sync but sometimes can be a bit 
> ahead as I myself use that as default.

Is there or will there be any difference between context mkiv and 
luametatex distributions apart from the binaries?

Aditya
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Re: beta

[Alan Braslau]

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 10:06:03 -0400 (EDT)
Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:

> > I uploaded a new beta (as we're now post current again). The lmtx 
> > installation is normally also updated in sync but sometimes can be a bit 
> > ahead as I myself use that as default.  
> 
> Is there or will there be any difference between context mkiv and 
> luametatex distributions apart from the binaries?

The backends are different as are a few other details but the base macros are the same. Hans is working on an article describing this that I believe he will be presenting at BachoTeX and publishing in TugBoat.

Alan

P.S. The new beta seems to fix a problem that Preview (and Skim) on MacOS had in rendering certain characters (some peculiarity/bug in the Apple pdf library).
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[Akira Kakuto]

> On Linux armhf i get with the same context and luatex:
> ...

1.09.0 is varying. Please see Development id by
luatex --credits

Best,
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Re: beta

[Lutz Haseloff]

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luatex --credits gives:

This is LuaTeX, Version 1.09.0 (TeX Live 2018)

The LuaTeX team is Hans Hagen, Hartmut Henkel, Taco Hoekwater, Luigi Scarso.

LuaTeX merges and builds upon (parts of) the code from these projects:

tex       : Donald Knuth
etex      : Peter Breitenlohner, Phil Taylor and friends
omega     : John Plaice and Yannis Haralambous
aleph     : Giuseppe Bilotta
pdftex    : Han The Thanh and friends
kpathsea  : Karl Berry, Olaf Weber and others
lua       : Roberto Ierusalimschy, Waldemar Celes and Luiz Henrique de Figueiredo
metapost  : John Hobby, Taco Hoekwater, Luigi Scarso, Hans Hagen and friends
pplib     : Paweł Jackowski
fontforge : George Williams (partial)
luajit    : Mike Pall (used in LuajitTeX)

Compiled with libpng 1.6.34; using 1.6.34
Compiled with lua version 5.3.4
Compiled with mplib version 2.00
Compiled with zlib 1.2.11; using 1.2.11

Development id: 6822



Am 23. Juni 2018 10:25:01 MESZ schrieb Akira Kakuto <kakuto@fuk.kindai.ac.jp>:
>> On Linux armhf i get with the same context and luatex:
>> ...
>
>1.09.0 is varying. Please see Development id by
>luatex --credits
>
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>Akira
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[Akira Kakuto]

> I get the same error after the update with 
>
> \starttext
> \externalfigure[A]
> \stoptext
>
> where A.pdf is in the current folder. I'm on windows 10.

Here it works OK:

LuaTeX, Version 1.09.0
Development id: 6822

Thanks,
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Re: beta

[Lutz Haseloff]

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On Linux armhf i get with the same context and luatex:

mtx-context     | run 1: luatex --fmt="/usr/local/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex/cont-en" --jobname="witha" --lua="/usr/local/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex/cont-en.lui" --no-parse-first-line --c:currentrun=1 --c:fulljobname="./witha.tex" --c:input="./witha.tex" --c:kindofrun=1 --c:maxnofruns=9 "cont-yes.mkiv"

This is LuaTeX, Version 1.09.0 (TeX Live 2018) 
 system commands enabled.
open source     > level 1, order 1, name '/usr/local/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv'
system          > 
system          > ConTeXt  ver: 2018.06.22 15:55 MKIV beta  fmt: 2018.6.23  int: english/english
system          > 
system          > 'cont-new.mkiv' loaded
open source     > level 2, order 2, name '/usr/local/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-new.mkiv'
system          > beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
close source    > level 2, order 2, name '/usr/local/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-new.mkiv'
system          > files > jobname 'witha', input './witha', result 'witha'
fonts           > latin modern fonts are not preloaded
languages       > language 'en' is active
open source     > level 2, order 3, name '/home/user/witha.tex'
fonts           > preloading latin modern fonts (second stage)
fonts           > 'fallback modern-designsize rm 12pt' is loaded
mtx-context     | fatal error: no return code, message: luatex: execution interrupted


No logfile is written.

a.tex
\starttext
\startMPpage
fill fullcircle scaled 5cm withcolor blue;
\stopMPpage
\stoptext

witha.tex
\starttext
\externalfigure[a.pdf]
\stoptext


Greetings Lutz

Am 23. Juni 2018 01:14:37 MESZ schrieb Akira Kakuto <kakuto@fuk.kindai.ac.jp>:
>> I get the same error after the update with 
>>
>> \starttext
>> \externalfigure[A]
>> \stoptext
>>
>> where A.pdf is in the current folder. I'm on windows 10.
>
>Here it works OK:
>
>LuaTeX, Version 1.09.0
>Development id: 6822
>
>Thanks,
>Akira
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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta (with an seeindex fix). If you use betas for 
production, best save your current one as there are some changes deep 
down in the pdf inclusion. This relates to upcoming luatex using 
different pdf inclusion code in the backend (plus a new pdf library that 
replaces the current one).

I don't expect real problems but i might have touched some context code 
in the process with possible side effects. Nothing that can't be fixed 
easily.

Hans

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Re: beta

[MF]

Tested with my setup, which -- you know -- is quite complex.
This is the only error:

lua error       > lua error on line 6 in file
/home/massi/context/latest/tex/texmf-
context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv:

...est/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/grph-inc.lua:1398:
image.ownerpassword can not be set
stack traceback:
	[C]: in function 'img.new'
	...est/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/grph-
inc.lua:1398: in function <...est/tex/texmf-
context/tex/context/base/mkiv/grph-inc.lua:1364>
	(...tail calls...)


The error is triggered by this line:

context(
"\\setlayer[layername]{\\externalfigure[figure.pdf][scale=900]}" )

Since it's a pdf figure, it should be linked to the new pdf library.

Best wishes,
Massi
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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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> MF <mailto:massifr@fastwebnet.it>
> 22. Juni 2018 um 16:36
> Tested with my setup, which -- you know -- is quite complex.
> This is the only error:
>
> lua error > lua error on line 6 in file
> /home/massi/context/latest/tex/texmf-
> context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv:
>
> ...est/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/grph-inc.lua:1398:
> image.ownerpassword can not be set
> stack traceback:
> [C]: in function 'img.new'
> ...est/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/grph-
> inc.lua:1398: in function <...est/tex/texmf-
> context/tex/context/base/mkiv/grph-inc.lua:1364>
> (...tail calls...)
>
>
> The error is triggered by this line:
>
> context(
> "\\setlayer[layername]{\\externalfigure[figure.pdf][scale=900]}" )
>
> Since it's a pdf figure, it should be linked to the new pdf library.

Do you get the same error message with the following minimal example:

\starttext
\externalfigure[figure]
\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: beta

[MF]

> >  
> Do you get the same error message with the following minimal example:
> 
> \starttext
> \externalfigure[figure]
> \stoptext
> 

Yes, of course, same error; BTW, the pdf i'm using is not password
protected.
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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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> MF <mailto:massifr@fastwebnet.it>
> 22. Juni 2018 um 17:46
>
> Yes, of course, same error; BTW, the pdf i'm using is not password
> protected.

I’m getting the same message as you when I try to insert pdf file 
created by context itself


%%%% begin example
\starttext

\startbuffer
Can this file be loaded?
\stopbuffer

\typesetbuffer[scale=500]

\stoptext
%%%% end example


or when I try to insert cow.pdf


%%%% begin example
\setupexternalfigure[location=default]

\starttext
\externalfigure[cow]
\stoptext
%%%% end example


Wolfgang

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Re: beta

[Ulrike Fischer]

Am Fri, 22 Jun 2018 17:30:46 +0200 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:


>> ...est/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/grph-inc.lua:1398:
>> image.ownerpassword can not be set
>> stack traceback:

> Do you get the same error message with the following minimal example:

I get the same error after the update with 

\starttext
 \externalfigure[A]
\stoptext

where A.pdf is in the current folder. I'm on windows 10.  

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 6/22/2018 4:36 PM, MF wrote:
> Tested with my setup, which -- you know -- is quite complex.
> This is the only error:
> 
> lua error       > lua error on line 6 in file
> /home/massi/context/latest/tex/texmf-
> context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv:
> 
> ...est/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/grph-inc.lua:1398:
> image.ownerpassword can not be set
> stack traceback:
> 	[C]: in function 'img.new'
> 	...est/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/grph-
> inc.lua:1398: in function <...est/tex/texmf-
> context/tex/context/base/mkiv/grph-inc.lua:1364>
> 	(...tail calls...)
> 
> 
> The error is triggered by this line:
> 
> context(
> "\\setlayer[layername]{\\externalfigure[figure.pdf][scale=900]}" )
> 
> Since it's a pdf figure, it should be linked to the new pdf library.
no, more to a bit strick checking in image settings in the old bin (less 
strct in latest bin)

i'll fix it


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Re: beta

[Ulrike Fischer]

Am Fri, 22 Jun 2018 16:09:26 +0200 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> I uploaded a beta (with an seeindex fix).

I still get an error about a missing function registersplit when
using the new generic loader together with luaotfload. 

Looking at the code I can see that there is an "if context" switch
around the relevant part (around line 34058):

definers.makespecification=makespecification
if context then --<<<<<<<<<
  local splitter,splitspecifiers=nil,"" 
...

Removing this (and the "end" naturally) then it worked fine. 


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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 6/22/2018 6:07 PM, Ulrike Fischer wrote:
> Am Fri, 22 Jun 2018 16:09:26 +0200 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> 
>> I uploaded a beta (with an seeindex fix).
> 
> I still get an error about a missing function registersplit when
> using the new generic loader together with luaotfload.
> 
> Looking at the code I can see that there is an "if context" switch
> around the relevant part (around line 34058):
> 
> definers.makespecification=makespecification
> if context then --<<<<<<<<<
>    local splitter,splitspecifiers=nil,""
> ...
> 
> Removing this (and the "end" naturally) then it worked fine.
don't use register split in luaotfload ... look in luatex-fonts.lua etc 
to soo how to analyze the name .. splitters are something context specific

Hans

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Re: beta

[Ulrike Fischer]

Am Sat, 23 Jun 2018 12:12:05 +0200 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> don't use register split in luaotfload ... look in luatex-fonts.lua etc 
> to soo how to analyze the name .. splitters are something context specific

It looks as if we managed to get it working in luaotfload. 

We are trying to setup test files. But normalization of the
log-files are complicate as the fontloader uses in various places
texio.write. E.g texio.write(format("(load luc: %s)",lucname))

Would it be possible to change this to some log-function which could
be adapted for the tests (so that e.g. newlines could be inserted
and the path stripped from file names)? 


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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Also in upcoming:

The auto variants \NA \BA will loop over colors:

\setuptabulate[foregroundcolor=white]
\setuptabulate[backgroundcolor:1=darkred]
\setuptabulate[backgroundcolor:2=darkgreen]
\setuptabulate[backgroundcolor:3=darkblue]

\starttabulate[|||]
     \BA foo foo foo \BC bar bar bar bar \NC \NR
     \BA foo foo foo \BC bar bar bar bar \NC \NR
     \BA foo foo foo \BC bar bar bar bar \NC \NR
     \BA foo foo foo \BC bar bar bar bar \NC \NR
     \BA foo foo foo \BC bar bar bar bar \NC \NR
     \BA foo foo foo \BC bar bar bar bar \NC \NR
\stoptabulate

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[Hans Hagen]

in next beta

% \setuphead[chapter][after={\markpage[chapter][+1]}]
\setuphead[chapter][after={\markpage[chapter]\blank[2*big]}]

\defineoverlay
   [whatever]
   [\doifelsemarkedpage{chapter}{CHAPTER}{}]

\setupbackgrounds
   [page]
   [background=whatever]

\starttext
     test \page test \page test \chapter{OEPS}
     test \page test \page test \chapter{OEPS}
\stoptext

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Re: beta

[Mikael P. Sundqvist]

On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> in next beta
>
> % \setuphead[chapter][after={\markpage[chapter][+1]}]
> \setuphead[chapter][after={\markpage[chapter]\blank[2*big]}]
>
> \defineoverlay
>   [whatever]
>   [\doifelsemarkedpage{chapter}{CHAPTER}{}]
>
> \setupbackgrounds
>   [page]
>   [background=whatever]
>
> \starttext
>     test \page test \page test \chapter{OEPS}
>     test \page test \page test \chapter{OEPS}
> \stoptext
>
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Thank you very much, that looks useful!

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

The beta has some new font trickery: support for variable fonts. This is 
still experimental but around the context meeting i expect the user 
interface etc to be stable. There is a bit of magic involved in the 
transformations along design axis because not only shapes change but 
also positional features get influenced (e.g kerning).

Variable fonts are defined in the opentype 1.8 standard but there isnot 
much more known about them. There are a few example fonts already out 
there. The only reasonable ones i could find were Avenir Next Variable 
and Adobe Variable Font Prototype (which is a rip off of some other 
font). I have no clue how well these fonts are because I guess that 
getting all the features right is not that trivial (so it's hard to 
decide if something weird is due to the font or to context but we'll get 
there eventually).

Using these fonts should be transparent in the sense that it should just 
work. As the shapes are transformed along axis the pdf has to get the 
right stuff and currently there are two methods: inline shapes (it's how 
i explored things) and native. For native one needs a version of luatex 
with a trivial extension (most works happens in the font loader) and 
that version (1.05) will be released on the garden after the tl code 
freeze (tl will have 1.04). One can force inline shapes but it will be 
done automatically when one runs a luatex that lacks the small extension 
needed.

Anyway, it provides users a way to play a bit with this new technology 
so that we can come up with a (maybe more extensive) user interface in 
context. It also permits WS to adapt his selectfont mechanism.

\definefontfeature
   [default:shaped]
   [default]
   [axis={width:900,weight:100}]

\definefont
   [SomeFont]
   [name:avenirnextvariable*default]
\SomeFont \input ward\par

\definefont
   [SomeFont]
   [name:avenirnextvariable*default:shaped]
\SomeFont \input ward\par

\definefont
   [SomeFont]
   [name:avenirnextvariableregular*default]
\SomeFont \input ward\par

\definefont
   [SomeFont]
   [name:avenirnextvariablemedium*default]
\SomeFont \input ward\par

\definefont
   [SomeFont]
   [name:adobevariablefontprototypeextralight*default]   \SomeFont 
\input ward\par

\definefont
   [SomeFont]
   [name:adobevariablefontprototypelight*default]
\SomeFont \input ward\par

etc etc

So, one can either use a predefined instance or ask for a user defined 
instance. The s-fonts-variable.mkiv style can be used to identify 
proprties, as can

   mtxrun --script font --list  --pattern=aven* --info

which returns, among other things

mtx-fonts       |
mtx-fonts       | instances : regular medium bold heavy condensed 
mediumcondensed boldcondensed heavycondensed
mtx-fonts       |

So, keep in mind that it's experimental and will evolve in sync with my 
understanding of what the standard expects.

Hans


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[Hans Hagen]

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Hi,

I uploaded a new beta. This version has (experimental) support for color 
fonts. (not to be confused with 'coloring text in a font').

\definefontfeature[svg]    [default][svg=yes]
\definefontfeature[colored][default][colr=yes]

% \definefont[Emoj][file:emojionecolor-svginot.ttf*default,svg]
% \definefont[Emoj][file:seguiemj.ttf*default,colored]

\definesymbol[bug1][\getglyphdirect{file:emojionecolor-svginot.ttf*svg}{\char"1F41B}]
\definesymbol[bug2][\getglyphdirect{file:seguiemj.ttf*colored} 
{\char"1F41B}]

\startTEXpage [width=10em,align=middle,offset=1em]
     There are several kind of bugs, like \symbol [bug1] and \symbol [bug2],
     also in \CONTEXT !
\stopTEXpage

The colr features uses (if present) the overlay method (microsoft fonts 
have that) which is quite clean and efficient, while the svg one uses 
(when present) svg information from the font. Caching the later one will 
take some initial time (due to conversion, i might figure out something 
better) and needs inkscape installed.

Attached an example. I didn't look too extensively for a font, but on 
the agenda is turning the cowfont in a color one (maybe for the ctx 
meeting). At some point I might add overloading of colors (for the 
overlay variant).

Hans


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Re: beta

[Hans Åberg]

> On 8 Jun 2016, at 16:41, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> I uploaded a new beta. 

The OS X installation page does not say how to update when installing system wide into /Applications/.

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Mac_Installation


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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 6/8/2016 6:27 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:
>
>> On 8 Jun 2016, at 16:41, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
>> I uploaded a new beta.
>
> The OS X installation page does not say how to update when installing system wide into /Applications/.
>
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Mac_Installation

just run first_setup again

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Re: beta

[Hans Åberg]

> On 8 Jun 2016, at 22:33, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

>>> I uploaded a new beta.
>> 
>> The OS X installation page does not say how to update when installing system wide into /Applications/.
>> 
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Mac_Installation
> 
> just run first_setup again

OK.


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Re: beta

[Jan Tosovsky]

On 2016-06-08 Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> This version has (experimental) support for color fonts. 
> ...
> svg one uses svg information from the font

Btw, SVG fonts were removed from SVG 2.0 and considered as a deprecated feature:

http://caniuse.com/#feat=svg-fonts
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2013Jan/0030.html

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 6/8/2016 11:02 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote:
> On 2016-06-08 Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>> This version has (experimental) support for color fonts.
>> ...
>> svg one uses svg information from the font
>
> Btw, SVG fonts were removed from SVG 2.0 and considered as a deprecated feature:
>
> http://caniuse.com/#feat=svg-fonts
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2013Jan/0030.html

we're talking of opentype fonts that can have svg shapes (e.g. for 
colored emoj)

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta. This one has an (partially) alternative loader for 
type one files so that we can apply features as with open type fonts 
(node mode). I didn't test it extensively but I dont' expect many 
problems either.

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Re: beta

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 05/07/2016 02:51 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a beta. This one has an (partially) alternative loader for 
> type one files so that we can apply features as with open type fonts 
> (node mode). I didn't test it extensively but I dont' expect many 
> problems either.

Hi Hans,

I’m afraid the new beta might contain references to a missing file :

   error loading file: font-one.lua (aborting)
   mtx-context     | error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting

Many thanks for your help,

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Re: beta

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 05/07/2016 09:42 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 05/07/2016 02:51 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I uploaded a beta. This one has an (partially) alternative loader for 
>> type one files so that we can apply features as with open type fonts 
>> (node mode). I didn't test it extensively but I dont' expect many 
>> problems either.
> 
> Hi Hans,
> 
> I’m afraid the new beta might contain references to a missing file :
> 
>    error loading file: font-one.lua (aborting)
>    mtx-context     | error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting

Many thanks for your fast fix, Hans.


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[Akira Kakuto]

> Doesn’t work here.
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.88.0 (TeX Live 2016/dev)  (INITEX)

Here there is no problem with
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.89.0 (TeX Live 2016/W32TeX/dev)

Does the version 2016.01.29 19:00 require beta-0.89.0?

Best,
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Re: beta

[luigi scarso]

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On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Akira Kakuto <kakuto@fuk.kindai.ac.jp>
wrote:

> Doesn’t work here.
>> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.88.0 (TeX Live 2016/dev)  (INITEX)
>>
>
> Here there is no problem with
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.89.0 (TeX Live 2016/W32TeX/dev)
>
> Does the version 2016.01.29 19:00 require beta-0.89.0?
>
> yes latest beta was ok with 0.89.0 but not with  0.88.0 .
I think that Hans has already fixed the beta so that it works also with
0.88.



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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta. Apart from things mentioned here th emost important 
change is the xml entity handler, some additions to the command setup 
code, and a few extra \xml* helpers (plus some obscure removed). So, if 
you have a critical xml flow, snapshot your tree first.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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> Hans Hagen <mailto:pragma@wxs.nl>
> 29. Januar 2016 um 16:12
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a beta. Apart from things mentioned here th emost important 
> change is the xml entity handler, some additions to the command setup 
> code, and a few extra \xml* helpers (plus some obscure removed). So, 
> if you have a critical xml flow, snapshot your tree first.
Doesn’t work here.


This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.88.0 (TeX Live 2016/dev)  (INITEX)
  system commands enabled.
(/Users/wolf/context/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-en.mkiv 
(/Users/wolf/context/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv 
(/Users/wolf/context/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/syst-ini.mkiv
warning  (pdf backend): unexpected use of \pdfvariable

warning  (pdf backend): unexpected use of \pdfvariable
! Missing number, treated as zero.
<to be read again>
\edef
l.1017 \edef
           \pdfgentounicode        {\pdfvariable gentounicode}        
\pdfgen...


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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

A few words on luatex 0.87 and the beta. As we're progressing to the 
first stable luatex release (stable in the sense that functionality will 
become stable, after 1.0 we will continue anyway) a couple of changes 
take place. And as context is the primary testbed it gets adapted too.

(1) Luatex functionality gets finalized which means that some gets 
removed, some adapted and some extended. The last months not much 
changed in context in terms of functionality but adapting to luatex 
canhave temporary side effects as you might have noticed.

(2) Luatex functionality that was already present but not yet used gets 
applied and again this should normally not have side effects. It might 
result in new (or extended) features.

(3) Context code gets optimized but I must admit that there is not much 
room left for that. Some new luatex functionality makes it possible to 
code a bit less redundant (handy for tracing). That can result in left 
over bit and pieces, typos etc. Lucky us we have Wolfgang to check that.

(4) Performance should be a little better but also depends on the source 
and quality of styles. If you encounter bottlenecks and can prove that 
it's due to poor context core performance I can have a look at it.

(5) The new font loader is now used and still can have some issues but 
in general it behaves okay.

(6) There are still some mechanisms that need to be mkiv'd. For instance 
I'm looking at columnsets. Some of the oldest code (early luatex) 
probably needs to be checked.

Hans

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta with the usual fixes and improvements (mentioned on 
the list). I also redid some of the marginal anchoring, so problems 
might show up there. The reason for this 'upgrade' is that I want more 
control over right2left typesetting (especially because we have mixed use).

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta (with again a bunch of low level interface 
changes) + some fixed.

Wolfgang: can you check selectfont?

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta (for luatex 0.80) that has some changes in low level 
interfaces. Hopefully there are no side effects but there are they can 
be sorted out fast. I tested the code on projects and manuals so it 
should not be too bad. Depending on how complex your setup up is, there 
can be a speed gain of some 5% compared to previous versions.

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Re: beta

[Christian Prim]

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Hi Hans,

with the new beta following mwe produces a bug. Perhaps I'm doing something
wrong.

MWE:

\definefontfamily[mainface][sans][DejaVu Sans]
%or \definefontfamily[mainface][sans][gosmicksans] with the same result
\setupbodyfont[mainface]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext

Error log:
Typesetting /home/ubuntu/workspace/mwe.tex

mtx-context     | run 1: luatex
--fmt="/home/ubuntu/workspace/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex/cont-en"
--jobname="mwe"
--lua="/home/ubuntu/workspace/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex/cont-en.lui"
--no-parse-first-line --c:currentrun=1 --c:fulljobname="./mwe.tex"
--c:input="./mwe.tex" --c:kindofrun=1 --c:maxnofruns=8 "cont-yes.mkiv"
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.80.0 (TeX Live 2015/dev) (rev 5195)
 \write18 enabled.

interfaces      > implementor > warning: 'commands.writestatus' is redefined

interfaces      > implementor > error: no actions for
'btxresolvelistreference'
open source     > 1 > 1 >
/home/ubuntu/workspace/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-yes.mkiv

ConTeXt  ver: 2015.03.26 19:19 MKIV beta  fmt: 2015.3.26  int:
english/english

system          > 'cont-new.mkiv' loaded
open source     > 2 > 2 >
/home/ubuntu/workspace/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
close source    > 2 > 2 >
/home/ubuntu/workspace/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
system          > files > jobname 'mwe', input './mwe', result 'mwe'
fonts           > latin modern fonts are not preloaded
languages       > language 'en' is active
open source     > 2 > 3 >
/home/ubuntu/workspace/documents/snippets/bug/mwe.tex

tex error       > error on line 179 in file
/home/ubuntu/workspace/documents/snippets/bug/mwe.tex: ! Argument of
\splitoffbase has an extra }

<inserted text>
\par
<to be read again>
}
\rawdoifinsetelse ...def \m_syst_sub_string {,#1,}
                                                  \ifx \m_syst_sub_string
\m...
\addtocommalist #1#2->\rawdoifinsetelse {#1}
                                            #2\resetglobal {\dodoglobal
\ede...
\font_typefaces_define_a ...usetypescriptfile [#4]
                                                  \font_typescripts_use_one
...
l.179 ]

...
l.2 \setupbodyfont
                [mainface]

Thanks for your help.
Christian

2015-03-26 19:24 GMT+01:00 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:

> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a beta (for luatex 0.80) that has some changes in low level
> interfaces. Hopefully there are no side effects but there are they can be
> sorted out fast. I tested the code on projects and manuals so it should not
> be too bad. Depending on how complex your setup up is, there can be a speed
> gain of some 5% compared to previous versions.
>
> Hans
>
>
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Re: beta

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 03/26/2015 07:24 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a beta (for luatex 0.80) that has some changes in low level 
> interfaces. Hopefully there are no side effects but there are they can 
> be sorted out fast. I tested the code on projects and manuals so it 
> should not be too bad. Depending on how complex your setup up is, there 
> can be a speed gain of some 5% compared to previous versions.

Hans,

many thanks for the new beta.

I’m afraid that the three documents I tested (rather complex ones)
cannot be compiled and the error message is the same. \definefontfamily
seems to be the offending command

The minimal sample:

    \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella]
    \setupbodyfont[mainface]
    \starttext
    \input zapf
    \stoptext

Many thanks for your help,


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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

> Am 26.03.2015 um 20:14 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es>:
> 
> On 03/26/2015 07:24 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I uploaded a beta (for luatex 0.80) that has some changes in low level 
>> interfaces. Hopefully there are no side effects but there are they can 
>> be sorted out fast. I tested the code on projects and manuals so it 
>> should not be too bad. Depending on how complex your setup up is, there 
>> can be a speed gain of some 5% compared to previous versions.
> 
> Hans,
> 
> many thanks for the new beta.
> 
> I’m afraid that the three documents I tested (rather complex ones)
> cannot be compiled and the error message is the same. \definefontfamily
> seems to be the offending command
> 
> The minimal sample:
> 
>    \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella]
>    \setupbodyfont[mainface]
>    \starttext
>    \input zapf
>    \stoptext
> 
> Many thanks for your help,


The bug happens further down in the \usetypescriptfile command and is triggered
when a empty argument is given. The cause can be reproduced with the following
example when you pass an empty string to \splitfilename.

\starttext

\letempty\CommaList

\splitfilename{}% fails
%\splitfilename{text}% works
\addtocommalist\splitoffbase\CommaList

\stoptext

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 3/26/2015 8:35 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>> Am 26.03.2015 um 20:14 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es>:
>>
>> On 03/26/2015 07:24 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I uploaded a beta (for luatex 0.80) that has some changes in low level
>>> interfaces. Hopefully there are no side effects but there are they can
>>> be sorted out fast. I tested the code on projects and manuals so it
>>> should not be too bad. Depending on how complex your setup up is, there
>>> can be a speed gain of some 5% compared to previous versions.
>>
>> Hans,
>>
>> many thanks for the new beta.
>>
>> I’m afraid that the three documents I tested (rather complex ones)
>> cannot be compiled and the error message is the same. \definefontfamily
>> seems to be the offending command
>>
>> The minimal sample:
>>
>>     \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre Pagella]
>>     \setupbodyfont[mainface]
>>     \starttext
>>     \input zapf
>>     \stoptext
>>
>> Many thanks for your help,
>
>
> The bug happens further down in the \usetypescriptfile command and is triggered
> when a empty argument is given. The cause can be reproduced with the following
> example when you pass an empty string to \splitfilename.
>
> \starttext
>
> \letempty\CommaList
>
> \splitfilename{}% fails
> %\splitfilename{text}% works
> \addtocommalist\splitoffbase\CommaList
>
> \stoptext

ok, fix in engine needed ... i uploaded a temp fix

Hans

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta. This is the last one that works with luatex < 0.80 
but the good news is that the contextgarden has 0.80. I will start 
moving in some new code now so if you don't want any risks you need to 
snapshot your context tree.

Hans

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta. The most interesting new thing is that the Lua 
based hyphenator is now better integrated. I showed that one (plus some 
features) at the last context meeting, and decided to clean it up a bit 
and prepare it for extensions. It might become the default hyphenator at 
some point. Performance is quite ok, especially when you take into 
account that the amount of time spent on hyphenating is not that large.

You can test it with:

\setuphyhenation[method=traditional]

enables it and as by default we are a bit more tolerant to what a word 
is, you can enforce a more strict behaviour with

\sethyphenationfeatures[strict]

It is possible to control some aspects (even within a paragraph) but 
some of that is experimental. I'm working on a manual that explains 
details about how hyphenation works and how one can write plugins.

There is already support for explicit hyphens and joiners (the default 
set) and patterns as discussed in "Hyphenation in OpenOffice.org"
(TUGboat, Volume 27, 2006) should also work; you can for instance 
register additional patterns like this:

\registerhyphenationpattern[en][eigh1tee/t=t,5,1]

But that's for the happy few who understand and/or love such weird 
syntaxes. Anyway, this is the time to ask for more if you are in need,

Hans

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Re: beta

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 11/26/2014 08:28 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a new beta.

Hans,

I’m afraid that this sample cannot be compiled with the new beta:

\starttext
\section{What is \ConTeXt?}
\stoptext


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Re: beta

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Hi Hans,

the tikz-example on the wiki (which worked in last beta) doesn't compile
too.

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TikZ

Christian

2014-11-26 21:06 GMT+01:00 Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es>:

> On 11/26/2014 08:28 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I uploaded a new beta.
>
> Hans,
>
> I’m afraid that this sample cannot be compiled with the new beta:
>
> \starttext
> \section{What is \ConTeXt?}
> \stoptext
>
>
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/26/2014 9:29 PM, Christian Prim wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> the tikz-example on the wiki (which worked in last beta) doesn't compile
> too.
>
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TikZ

it works here so it's prob ably the already discussed tikz library issue

Hans

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Re: beta

[Christian Prim]

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Sorry for the noise,

after a fresh install of standalone, everything is fine again. Don't know,
why this happened.

Christian

2014-11-26 21:48 GMT+01:00 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:

> On 11/26/2014 9:29 PM, Christian Prim wrote:
>
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> the tikz-example on the wiki (which worked in last beta) doesn't compile
>> too.
>>
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TikZ
>>
>
> it works here so it's prob ably the already discussed tikz library issue
>
> Hans
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/26/2014 9:06 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 11/26/2014 08:28 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I uploaded a new beta.
>
> Hans,
>
> I’m afraid that this sample cannot be compiled with the new beta:
>
> \starttext
> \section{What is \ConTeXt?}
> \stoptext

ah, a missing \protect .. i'll fix it

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Re: beta

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 11/26/2014 08:28 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> [...]
> \setuphyphenation[method=traditional]
> 
> enables it and as by default we are a bit more tolerant to what a word 
> is, you can enforce a more strict behaviour with

Hans,

sorry for not having answered before, but I found that this new setup
doesn’t honor the \hyphenation command:

    \setuphyphenation[method=traditional]
    \hyphenation{Nietz-sche}
    \starttext
    \hsize\zeropoint
    Nietzsche
    \stoptext

I’m also writing a book (more than 320 pages) that ConTeXt cannot
compile when I enable \setuphyphenation[method=traditional].

Since the log is rather extensive and I’d rather avoid to post in a
public list, I send it to you off-list.

ConTeXt complains about a blank line. Let me know whether I need to
isolate the issue in a smaller sample file or the log file is enough.

> But that's for the happy few who understand and/or love such weird 
> syntaxes. Anyway, this is the time to ask for more if you are in need,

Well, if I can ask for features, I would like that ConTeXt would be able
to hyphenate the contents in the type element. This option was removed
in latest beta.

And for both the contents of the type element and the hyphenatedurl, I
think that it would be useful to have underscore hyphenation. Otherwise,
the hyphen could be considered as part of the command, file name or url.

Many thanks for your help,


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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I reorganized some list code so if something fails in the new beta ... 
nothing drastic that can't be fixed fast (a few more criteria were 
needed for the new bibliographic support).

Hans


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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

new in next beta:

\setuphead[alternative=reverse]

\starttext

     \chapter{Foo}
         \section{One}
         \section{Two}
         \section{Three}
     \chapter{Bar}
         \section{One}
         \section{Two}
         \section{Three}

\stoptext

renders

Foo 1
One 1.1

etc

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta (still catching up from last week). The core now 
has the simplefonts-turned-fontselector code included but only those 
present last week have the edge of knowing how to use it unless WS 
decides to reveal its secrets and/or LS undiscloses it by posting source 
code.

Hans


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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

A new (experimental) feature:

\setupbodyfont[dejavu]

\showglyphs

\starttext

     Is it \mixedcaps{OpenType} or {\bf actually more 
\mixedcaps{CloseType}}?

     \definefont[MixedCaps][CurrentFont*default cp 
\the\dimexpr1.05\exheight]

     Is it \mixedcaps{OpenType} or {\bf actually more 
\mixedcaps{CloseType}}?

\stoptext

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta with additional bidi code. There are now three methods:

default : the original one, the fastest, wil be improved a bit
one     : unicode bidi, derived from khaleds t-bidi, cleaned up and 
optimized plus some thingies, but in working still close to the original
two     : unicode bidi, the version that will evolve

All methods come with the usual context kind of tracing.

Some of these methods have different options (default has local and 
global behaviour), one has no options, and for two one can disable fancy 
fences heuristics. More will follow once we have investigated all
upcoming changes, circulating wishes, conflicting demands etc. 
Eventually there will be a manual about these matters.

Here is an example (follow up on some post about hebrew on this list):

\starttext

\definefont[arabicfont][arabtype*arabic at 20pt]
\definefont[hebrewfont][arial*hebrew    at 12pt]

\startbuffer[fences]
\hebrewfont
ש)ל(א    none\par
ש(ל]א    none\par
ש(ל)א    2-4\par
ש(ל[א)כ] 2-6\par
ש(ל]א)כ  2-6\par
ש(ל)א)כ  2-4\par
ש(ל(א)כ  4-6\par
ש(ל(א)כ) 2-8, 4-6\par
ש(ל[א]כ) 2-8, 4-6\par
\stopbuffer

\startbuffer[junk]
\hebrewfont
\dorecurse{100}{
     \dorecurse{20}{
         שלום (אני) כותבשלום (אני) $ $ כותבשלום (אני) $x$ כותבשלום (אני) 
\ruledhbox {hans כותבשלום}
         (אני) כותבשלום (אני) כותבשלום (אני) כותבשלום (אני) כותבשלום 
(אני) כותבשלום (אני) כותבשלום (אני) כותב
     }
     \par
}
\stopbuffer

\setupalign[r2l,verytolerant]

\start
     \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default]
     \getbuffer[fences] \blank
\stop

\start
     \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=one]
     \enabletrackers[typesetters.directions.one]
     \enabletrackers[typesetters.directions.one.details]
     \getbuffer[fences] \blank
     \disabletrackers[typesetters.directions.one]
     \disabletrackers[typesetters.directions.one.details]
\stop

\start
     \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two,fences=yes]
     \enabletrackers[typesetters.directions.two]
     \enabletrackers[typesetters.directions.two.details]
     \getbuffer[fences] \blank
     \disabletrackers[typesetters.directions.two]
     \disabletrackers[typesetters.directions.two.details]
\stop

\start
     \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two,fences=no]
     \enabletrackers[typesetters.directions.two]
     \enabletrackers[typesetters.directions.two.details]
     \getbuffer[fences] \blank
     \disabletrackers[typesetters.directions.two]
     \disabletrackers[typesetters.directions.two.details]
\stop

\page

\start
     \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two]
     \getbuffer[junk] \blank
\stop

\stoptext


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Re: beta

[Khaled Hosny]

On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 08:01:30PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a beta with additional bidi code. There are now three methods:
> 
> default : the original one, the fastest, wil be improved a bit
> one     : unicode bidi, derived from khaleds t-bidi, cleaned up and
> optimized plus some thingies, but in working still close to the
> original
> two     : unicode bidi, the version that will evolve
> 
> All methods come with the usual context kind of tracing.
> 
> Some of these methods have different options (default has local and
> global behaviour), one has no options, and for two one can disable
> fancy fences heuristics. More will follow once we have investigated
> all upcoming changes, circulating wishes, conflicting demands etc.
> Eventually there will be a manual about these matters.

Method two seems to be broken here:
error: .../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-dir.lua:151: attempt to call global 'hasbit' (a nil value)

Regards,
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 9/10/2013 3:50 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 08:01:30PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I uploaded a beta with additional bidi code. There are now three methods:
>>
>> default : the original one, the fastest, wil be improved a bit
>> one     : unicode bidi, derived from khaleds t-bidi, cleaned up and
>> optimized plus some thingies, but in working still close to the
>> original
>> two     : unicode bidi, the version that will evolve
>>
>> All methods come with the usual context kind of tracing.
>>
>> Some of these methods have different options (default has local and
>> global behaviour), one has no options, and for two one can disable
>> fancy fences heuristics. More will follow once we have investigated
>> all upcoming changes, circulating wishes, conflicting demands etc.
>> Eventually there will be a manual about these matters.
>
> Method two seems to be broken here:
> error: .../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-dir.lua:151: attempt to call global 'hasbit' (a nil value)

ok, i'll fix it .. (it went unnoticed because i ran experimental faster 
code here)

Hans

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

Some new magic in the beta ...

\setupbodyfont[pagella]

\starttext

     \setupindenting[medium,yes]
     \setupalign[tolerant]

     \definefirstline
       [fancy]
       [alternative=line,
        color=darkred,
        style=\setfontfeature{smallcaps}]

     \setfirstline[fancy] \input tufte  \par
     \setfirstline[fancy] \input ward   \par
     \setfirstline[fancy] \input knuth  \par
     \setfirstline[fancy] \input bryson \page

     \definefirstline
       [fancy]
       [alternative=word,
        color=darkblue,
        style=bold,
        n=2]

     \setfirstline[fancy] \input tufte  \par
     \setfirstline[fancy] \input ward   \par
     \setfirstline[fancy] \input knuth  \par
     \setfirstline[fancy] \input bryson \page

\stoptext

(Actually, it was rather old magic that I found back in an "early days 
of mkiv" file).

Hans

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Re: beta

[Philipp Gesang]

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> Hi,
> 
> Some new magic in the beta ...
> 
> \setupbodyfont[pagella]
> 
> \starttext
> 
>     \setupindenting[medium,yes]
>     \setupalign[tolerant]
> 
>     \definefirstline
>       [fancy]
>       [alternative=line,
>        color=darkred,
>        style=\setfontfeature{smallcaps}]
> 
>     \setfirstline[fancy] \input tufte  \par
>     \setfirstline[fancy] \input ward   \par
>     \setfirstline[fancy] \input knuth  \par
>     \setfirstline[fancy] \input bryson \page
> 
>     \definefirstline
>       [fancy]
>       [alternative=word,
>        color=darkblue,
>        style=bold,
>        n=2]
> 
>     \setfirstline[fancy] \input tufte  \par
>     \setfirstline[fancy] \input ward   \par
>     \setfirstline[fancy] \input knuth  \par
>     \setfirstline[fancy] \input bryson \page
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> (Actually, it was rather old magic that I found back in an "early
> days of mkiv" file).
> 

Nice, wikified:

  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definefirstline

Best,
Philipp

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Hans,

This is a very nice feature indeed.
Out of curiosity, I wondered whether it is possible to to have \placeinitial to work with \definefirstline, or a variant of it: that is not only have the first character of the first sentence as a dropped capital, but also the first line (or first few words) for instance in smallcaps.

Another curiosity question: is it on purpose that
 \definefirstline
	[fancy]
	[alternative=line,
	color=darkred,
	style=\setfontfeature{smallcaps},
	n=2]
does not produce two lines of text in smallcaps?

Best regards: OK

On 22 août 2013, at 16:06, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Some new magic in the beta ...
> 
> \setupbodyfont[pagella]
> 
> \starttext
> 
>    \setupindenting[medium,yes]
>    \setupalign[tolerant]
> 
>    \definefirstline
>      [fancy]
>      [alternative=line,
>       color=darkred,
>       style=\setfontfeature{smallcaps}]
> 
>    \setfirstline[fancy] \input tufte  \par
>    \setfirstline[fancy] \input ward   \par
>    \setfirstline[fancy] \input knuth  \par
>    \setfirstline[fancy] \input bryson \page
> 
>    \definefirstline
>      [fancy]
>      [alternative=word,
>       color=darkblue,
>       style=bold,
>       n=2]
> 
>    \setfirstline[fancy] \input tufte  \par
>    \setfirstline[fancy] \input ward   \par
>    \setfirstline[fancy] \input knuth  \par
>    \setfirstline[fancy] \input bryson \page
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> (Actually, it was rather old magic that I found back in an "early days of mkiv" file).
> 
> Hans
> 
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 8/23/2013 2:41 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> This is a very nice feature indeed.
> Out of curiosity, I wondered whether it is possible to to have \placeinitial to work with \definefirstline, or a variant of it: that is not only have the first character of the first sentence as a dropped capital, but also the first line (or first few words) for instance in smallcaps.

I played with that before uploading but it was somewhat tricky. Anyway, 
I redid some code so now you can do this:

\setupbodyfont
   [pagella]

\setupalign
   [tolerant,stretch]

\setupfirstline
   [alternative=line,
    color=darkred,
    style=\setfontfeature{smallcaps}]

\setupfirstline
   [fancy]
   [n=3]

\setupfirstline
   [fancier]
   [alternative=word,
    color=darkblue,
    style=bold,
    n=3]

\setupfirstline
   [weirder]
   [alternative=line,
    color=darkgreen,
    style=\setfontfeature{smallcaps},
    n=3]

\setupinitial
   [location=text,
    n=2,
    color=darkred,
    voffset=-.5ex,
    before={\blank[2*big]}]

\starttext

     \setfirstline

     \input ward \par

     \placeinitial

     \input ward \par

     \setupindenting[medium,yes]

     \setinitial % \placeinitial

     \input ward \par

     \setinitial %  \placeinitial
     \setfirstline

     \input ward \par

     \setfirstline[fancy]

     \input ward \par

     \setfirstline[fancier]

     \input ward \par

     \setinitial %  \placeinitial
     \setfirstline[weirder]

     \input ward \par

\stoptext

> Another curiosity question: is it on purpose that
>   \definefirstline
> 	[fancy]
> 	[alternative=line,
> 	color=darkred,
> 	style=\setfontfeature{smallcaps},
> 	n=2]
> does not produce two lines of text in smallcaps?

I cannot imagine someone using it but it should work now. I must admit 
that I never use dropcaps or even this firstline stuff so it was more a 
challenge than a neccessity.

I have no clue (yet) to what extend it all interferes with other 
trickery but I suppose that such features are only used in controlled 
situations.

Hans


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Re: beta

[Marco Patzer]

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On 2013–08–24 Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 8/23/2013 2:41 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:
> >Hi Hans,
> >
> >This is a very nice feature indeed.
> >Out of curiosity, I wondered whether it is possible to to have \placeinitial to work with \definefirstline, or a variant of it: that is not only have the first character of the first sentence as a dropped capital, but also the first line (or first few words) for instance in smallcaps.
> 
> I played with that before uploading but it was somewhat tricky.
> Anyway, I redid some code so now you can do this:

Did you forget to add a file?

loading         > ConTeXt Typesetting Macros / First Lines
! LuaTeX error ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: attempt to index field 'pool' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: in function 'code'
	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/util-lua.lua:84: in function 'loadedluacode'
	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-env.lua:104: in function 'luafilechunk'
	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-cod.lua:45: in function 'registercode'
	[string "\directlua "]:1: in main chunk.

system          > tex > error on line 53 in file /home/marco/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.mkiv: LuaTeX error  ...

Marco

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 8/24/2013 2:08 AM, Marco Patzer wrote:
> On 2013–08–24 Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> On 8/23/2013 2:41 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> This is a very nice feature indeed.
>>> Out of curiosity, I wondered whether it is possible to to have \placeinitial to work with \definefirstline, or a variant of it: that is not only have the first character of the first sentence as a dropped capital, but also the first line (or first few words) for instance in smallcaps.
>>
>> I played with that before uploading but it was somewhat tricky.
>> Anyway, I redid some code so now you can do this:
>
> Did you forget to add a file?
>
> loading         > ConTeXt Typesetting Macros / First Lines
> ! LuaTeX error ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: attempt to index field 'pool' (a nil value)
> stack traceback:
> 	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: in function 'code'
> 	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/util-lua.lua:84: in function 'loadedluacode'
> 	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-env.lua:104: in function 'luafilechunk'
> 	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-cod.lua:45: in function 'registercode'
> 	[string "\directlua "]:1: in main chunk.
>
> system          > tex > error on line 53 in file /home/marco/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.mkiv: LuaTeX error  ...

hm, just some missing code in one of the files (i have two sets, a fast 
set and a traditional set, and i normally work with the fast set)

Hans

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Re: beta

[Marco Patzer]

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On 2013–08–24 Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 8/24/2013 2:08 AM, Marco Patzer wrote:
> >On 2013–08–24 Hans Hagen wrote:
> >
> >>On 8/23/2013 2:41 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:
> >>>Hi Hans,
> >>>
> >>>This is a very nice feature indeed.
> >>>Out of curiosity, I wondered whether it is possible to to have \placeinitial to work with \definefirstline, or a variant of it: that is not only have the first character of the first sentence as a dropped capital, but also the first line (or first few words) for instance in smallcaps.
> >>
> >>I played with that before uploading but it was somewhat tricky.
> >>Anyway, I redid some code so now you can do this:
> >
> >Did you forget to add a file?
> >
> >loading         > ConTeXt Typesetting Macros / First Lines
> >! LuaTeX error ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: attempt to index field 'pool' (a nil value)
> >stack traceback:
> >	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: in function 'code'
> >	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/util-lua.lua:84: in function 'loadedluacode'
> >	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-env.lua:104: in function 'luafilechunk'
> >	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-cod.lua:45: in function 'registercode'
> >	[string "\directlua "]:1: in main chunk.
> >
> >system          > tex > error on line 53 in file /home/marco/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.mkiv: LuaTeX error  ...
> 
> hm, just some missing code in one of the files (i have two sets, a
> fast set and a traditional set, and i normally work with the fast

There still seems to be something missing in the new upload.
Making the format still fails:

loading         > ConTeXt Typesetting Macros / First Lines
! LuaTeX error ...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: attempt to index field 'nodes' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.lua:44: in function 'code'
	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/util-lua.lua:84: in function 'loadedluacode'
	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-env.lua:104: in function 'luafilechunk'
	...o/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-cod.lua:45: in function 'registercode'
	[string "\directlua "]:1: in main chunk.

system          > tex > error on line 53 in file /home/marco/ctx/te/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-fln.mkiv: LuaTeX error  ...

Marco

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta:

- combinations extended cf mails on this list
- new windows stubs (might need testing)
- frac fixed
- fixed more restrictive tex file lookup in run

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Re: beta

[Marco Patzer]

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On 2013–04–16 Hans Hagen wrote:

> - frac fixed

Thanks.

> - fixed more restrictive tex file lookup in run

  context  s-pre-17.mkiv

still works on my machine. I'm fine with that, just want to let you
know, it might not be the intended behaviour.

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 4/16/2013 1:04 PM, Marco Patzer wrote:
> On 2013–04–16 Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> - frac fixed
>
> Thanks.
>
>> - fixed more restrictive tex file lookup in run
>
>    context  s-pre-17.mkiv
>
> still works on my machine. I'm fine with that, just want to let you
> know, it might not be the intended behaviour.

hm, another attempts *hopefully it doesn't break something else) .. 
always a bit of a dilemma: be tolerant or strict with the tds tree

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta. Quite some files were touched as I went over all 
messages at the Lua end (simplified using the formatter, more 
consistent, etc). It might be that I made mistakes which then will show 
up when tracing options are enabled or error messages are issued.

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Re: beta

[Li Yanrui (李延瑞)]

2013/3/13 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a beta. Quite some files were touched as I went over all messages
> at the Lua end (simplified using the formatter, more consistent, etc). It
> might be that I made mistakes which then will show up when tracing options
> are enabled or error messages are issued.
>

fails to define fonts. See this example:

\definefontsynonym[song][name:adobesongstd]
\definefontfallback[hereos][name:texgyreherosregular][0x0000-0x0400]
\definefontsynonym[fbsong][song][fallbacks=hereos]
\definefont[newsong][fbsong]

\starttext
\newsong 夹杂 English 的中文文本
\stoptext

I get the error:

! LuaTeX error .../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-col.lua:90:
attempt to get length of local 'd' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
	.../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-col.lua:90: in
function 'fontcollectiondefine'
	[string "\directlua "]:1: in main chunk.



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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 3/13/2013 3:59 AM, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) wrote:
> fails to define fonts. See this example:
>
> \definefontsynonym[song][name:adobesongstd]
> \definefontfallback[hereos][name:texgyreherosregular][0x0000-0x0400]
> \definefontsynonym[fbsong][song][fallbacks=hereos]
> \definefont[newsong][fbsong]
>
> \starttext
> \newsong 夹杂 English 的中文文本
> \stoptext
>
> I get the error:

fixed in next beta

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

This is experimental in upcoming beta:

\starttext

\definemathfence [fancybracket] [bracket] [command=yes,color=blue]

test $|x|$ test \par
test $||x||$ test (replaced) \par
test $a\left|\frac{1}{b}\right|c$ test \par
test $a\left||\frac{1}{b}\right||c$ test (kept) \par

\startbuffer
test $a\fenced[bar]{\frac{1}{b}}c$ test \par
test $a\fenced[doublebar]{\frac{1}{b}}c$ test \par
test $a\fenced[bracket]{\frac{1}{b}}c$ test \par
test $a\fancybracket{\frac{1}{b}}c$ test \par
\stopbuffer

\getbuffer \setupmathfences [color=red] \getbuffer

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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:

> This is experimental in upcoming beta:
>
> \starttext
>
> \definemathfence [fancybracket] [bracket] [command=yes,color=blue]

Some feature requests:

1. Can we choose asymmetric fences, for example bra and ket notation in 
quantum physics:

\bra{x} = \lvert x \rangle
\ket{x} = \langle x \rvert

2. Add scaling so that

\fancybracket{...} = \left\{ ... \right\}

3. Add mathstyle key (I think that we need to slowly add this to all math 
comamnds)

mathstyle=text|display|script|scriptscript|cramped

At some stage I'll see if this can replace my old mathsets module.

http://modules.contextgarden.net/dl/t-mathsets/doc/context/third/mathsets/mathsets-doc.pdf

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 2/19/2013 8:19 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> This is experimental in upcoming beta:
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \definemathfence [fancybracket] [bracket] [command=yes,color=blue]
>
> Some feature requests:
>
> 1. Can we choose asymmetric fences, for example bra and ket notation in
> quantum physics:
>
> \bra{x} = \lvert x \rangle
> \ket{x} = \langle x \rvert

by default we have this defined

\definemathfence [parenthesis] [\c!left="0028,\c!right="0029]
\definemathfence [bracket]     [\c!left="005B,\c!right="005D]
\definemathfence [braces]      [\c!left="007B,\c!right="007D]
\definemathfence [bar]         [\c!left="007C,\c!right="007C]
\definemathfence [doublebar]   [\c!left="2016,\c!right="2016]

to which I'll add:

\definemathfence [angle]       [\c!left="003C,\c!right="003E]

so, you can define

\definemathfence [bra]   [left="007C,right="003E,command=yes]
\definemathfence [ket]   [left="003C,right="007C,command=yes]

(the command=yes defines the command)

\bra{x} = \lvert x \rangle

> 2. Add scaling so that
>
> \fancybracket{...} = \left\{ ... \right\}

is already there

> 3. Add mathstyle key (I think that we need to slowly add this to all
> math comamnds)
>
> mathstyle=text|display|script|scriptscript|cramped

ok, later as we probably need some adaptive relative mechanism .. basics 
already there

the auto matching code will also be redone

Hans

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta. There are some minor changes in the mp machinery (as 
preparation for 'double' support. As I upgraded some file related code 
recently there can be issues (easy to solve once known as it's hard to 
foresee all bordercases).

Hans
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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

As Mojca is moving the distribution to another server we have a few days 
of potential instability which gives us the change to experiment a bit.

I've changed the defaults for the math fonts so that now we use the 
'real thing'. However, as there can be issues, one can still say at the 
top of a document (of in cont-syst.tex):

\enablemode[txmath]
\enablemode[pxmath]
\enablemode[lmmath]

The design sized latin modern text font is still the default but one 
could already change that by

\setupbodyfont[modern]

There is currently some renaming going on for those math fonts but that 
should not affect us as context can handle older names too.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Sietse Brouwer]

Hi Hans,

Nice to hear that the official math fonts are good enough to be the default now!

Hans Hagen wrote:
> I've changed the defaults for the math fonts so that now we use the 'real
> thing'. However, as there can be issues, one can still say at the top of a
> document (of in cont-syst.tex):
>
> \enablemode[txmath]
> \enablemode[pxmath]
> \enablemode[lmmath]
>

Does the following description ring true? If yes, all I need to do is
find a place on the wiki to put it.

By default, ConTeXt's math font is Latin Modern Math, or Pagella
Math/Termes Math if you specified \setupbodyfont[palatino] c.q.
\setupbodyfont[times]. There exist also virtual versions of these
fonts; these virtual versions are essentially the body font
counterparts with lots of display-modifying tweaks piled on to make
them behave like math fonts. These virtual versions were used for a
time while the math fonts were in development. If you still want to
use the virtual fonts, you can write

    \enablemode[txmath,pxmath,lmmath]

at the top of your document. This does not set the math font directly,
but specifies that if the Pagella/Termes/LM math font is used, ConTeXt
should use the virtual font rather than the non-virtual one.

----

Futher: I see in math-vfu.lua the following comment: "There are still
areas where the virtuals are better." Which areas are these?

> The design sized latin modern text font is still the default but one could
> already change that by
>
> \setupbodyfont[modern]

And what would you get instead -- 12pt Latin Modern, or something else?

Cheers,
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Re: beta

[Khaled Hosny]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 08:10:19PM +0100, Sietse Brouwer wrote:
>
> these virtual versions are essentially the body font counterparts with
> lots of display-modifying tweaks piled on to make them behave like
> math fonts. These virtual versions were used for a time while the math
> fonts were in development.

The virtual counterparts are adaptations of the old TFM/Type1 fonts so
they look like OpenType math fonts to the engine (so that ConTeXt would
move entirely to Unicode/OpenType math while waiting for the real
OpenType fonts).

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi Khaled

>> these virtual versions are essentially the body font counterparts with
>> lots of display-modifying tweaks piled on to make them behave like
>> math fonts. These virtual versions were used for a time while the math
>> fonts were in development.
>
> The virtual counterparts are adaptations of the old TFM/Type1 fonts so
> they look like OpenType math fonts to the engine (so that ConTeXt would
> move entirely to Unicode/OpenType math while waiting for the real
> OpenType fonts).

Which reminds me ... shouldn't we try to get the r2l math symbols into 
the lm/gyre fonts? I don't know how much extra that is in xits, but it 
would be nice to have it.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Khaled Hosny]

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:35:36AM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi Khaled
> 
> >>these virtual versions are essentially the body font counterparts with
> >>lots of display-modifying tweaks piled on to make them behave like
> >>math fonts. These virtual versions were used for a time while the math
> >>fonts were in development.
> >
> >The virtual counterparts are adaptations of the old TFM/Type1 fonts so
> >they look like OpenType math fonts to the engine (so that ConTeXt would
> >move entirely to Unicode/OpenType math while waiting for the real
> >OpenType fonts).
> 
> Which reminds me ... shouldn't we try to get the r2l math symbols
> into the lm/gyre fonts? I don't know how much extra that is in xits,
> but it would be nice to have it.

The stuff in XITS is of little value right now as does not even cover
Arabic math (the only language where math can be RTL), there is a whole
set of Arabic math alphabets (starting from U+1EE00) that need to be
covered first to be able to set any useuful Arabic math (both LTR and
RTL).

Regards,
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/21/2012 8:10 PM, Sietse Brouwer wrote:

> Futher: I see in math-vfu.lua the following comment: "There are still
> areas where the virtuals are better." Which areas are these?

better hinting is one

there are also some pending symbols in lm/gyre, like combinations of 
extensible stacked arrows (used in chemistry) .. these will be added in 
due time but for the moment I simulate them using virtual glyphs .. 
these are not in unicode but can replace (and already do in context) 
messy macros

>> The design sized latin modern text font is still the default but one could
>> already change that by
>>
>> \setupbodyfont[modern]
>
> And what would you get instead -- 12pt Latin Modern, or something else?

scaled 10pt instead of the many design size instances


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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

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Hi Hans,

I made some testings with the new beta and noticed that there are a few maths characters or commands which are broken now.
Here is a minimal example:
%%%%%%% begin bug-lm.tex
\starttext
The commands \type{\imply} is not anymore defined.

\type{\iff}, \type{\Longrightarrow}, \type{\mapsto} and some other arrows do not appear.

\startformula
(\pi \notin {\Bbb Q} \Longrightarrow \pi^2 + \pi \not\in {\Bbb Q}) \iff \pi^2 \not\in {\Bbb Q}
\stopformula

\startformula
x \mapsto ax+b
\stopformula
\stoptext
%%%%%%% end bug-lm.tex

and the PDF output is attached.

Best regards: OK


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On 21 nov. 2012, at 16:22, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> As Mojca is moving the distribution to another server we have a few days of potential instability which gives us the change to experiment a bit.
> 
> I've changed the defaults for the math fonts so that now we use the 'real thing'. However, as there can be issues, one can still say at the top of a document (of in cont-syst.tex):
> 
> \enablemode[txmath]
> \enablemode[pxmath]
> \enablemode[lmmath]
> 
> The design sized latin modern text font is still the default but one could already change that by
> 
> \setupbodyfont[modern]
> 
> There is currently some renaming going on for those math fonts but that should not affect us as context can handle older names too.
> 
> Hans
> 
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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Otared Kavian wrote:

> Hi Hans,
>
> I made some testings with the new beta and noticed that there are a few maths characters or commands which are broken now.
> Here is a minimal example:
> %%%%%%% begin bug-lm.tex
> \starttext
> The commands \type{\imply} is not anymore defined.
>
> \type{\iff}, \type{\Longrightarrow}, \type{\mapsto} and some other arrows do not appear.
>
> \startformula
> (\pi \notin {\Bbb Q} \Longrightarrow \pi^2 + \pi \not\in {\Bbb Q}) \iff \pi^2 \not\in {\Bbb Q}
> \stopformula
>
> \startformula
> x \mapsto ax+b
> \stopformula
> \stoptext
> %%%%%%% end bug-lm.tex
>
> and the PDF output is attached.

Do these work with xits or cambria, i.e., is it a font or a context issue.

Aditya
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Re: beta

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On 21 nov. 2012, at 23:45, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:
> […]
> Do these work with xits or cambria, i.e., is it a font or a context issue.

Hi Aditya,

The bug appears with Latin Modern, that is the default font in TeX.
With xits and palatino the example I sent works fine.

Best regards: OK

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Re: beta

[Bill Meahan]

On 11/21/2012 05:41 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> I made some testings with the new beta and noticed that there are a few maths characters or commands which are broken now.
>
>
Strictly FYI, Arkandis Digital Foundry has a couple of math fonts 
available. I can't say how good/useful they are since I don't typeset 
math but I noticed them while visiting the Arkandis site and thought I'd 
pass the information along.

More info:  http://arkandis.tuxfamily.org/tugfonts.htm

-- 
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Westland, Michigan USA

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Re: beta

[Sietse Brouwer]

Bill Meahan wrote:
> Strictly FYI, Arkandis Digital Foundry has a couple
> of math fonts available. I can't say how good/useful
> they are since I don't typeset > math but I noticed
> them while visiting the Arkandis site and thought
> I'd pass the information along.
> More info:  http://arkandis.tuxfamily.org/tugfonts.htm

By all means add it to
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Math_fonts

That page is an overview of math+font issues in ConTeXt, from 'how to
use' to 'how to fix'; but math fonts are not that common, so it might
as well double as a list of math fonts per se.

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

There is a new feature in mtxrun:

As I wanted to acccess the help on the wiki, I've added a feature to 
mtxrun that can be used in an editor:

mtxrun
   --gethelp
   --url="http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist"

Actually, one can also use this:

mtxrun
   --gethelp
   --url="http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/%command%"
   --command="setuplist"

So, in scite I do:

mtxrun
   --gethelp
   --url="http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/%command%"
   --command="$(CurrentWord)"

and hitting F1 takes the current word and runs this command. On windows 
it effective boils down to

start "the url"

I have no clue what happens on unix.

Ps 1: Isn't it possible to also support /command on the wiki? It looks 
like the url resolver is case sensitive.

Ps 2: one can also run

mtxrun --script server --start --auto

and then use

mtxrun
   --gethelp
 
--url="http://localhost:31415/mtx-server-ctx-help.lua?command=%command%" 
--command="$(CurrentWord)"

but the garden provides more info.

Hans



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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There is a new feature in mtxrun:
>
> As I wanted to acccess the help on the wiki, I've added a feature to mtxrun
> that can be used in an editor:
>
> mtxrun
>   --gethelp
>   --url="http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist"

sh: http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist: No such file or directory

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 10-8-2012 00:31, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> There is a new feature in mtxrun:
>>
>> As I wanted to acccess the help on the wiki, I've added a feature to mtxrun
>> that can be used in an editor:
>>
>> mtxrun
>>    --gethelp
>>    --url="http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist"
>
> sh: http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist: No such file or directory

So what would be the right way? Is there some abstract shortcut to the 
preferred browser?

Hans


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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 10-8-2012 00:31, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> There is a new feature in mtxrun:
>>>
>>> As I wanted to acccess the help on the wiki, I've added a feature to
>>> mtxrun
>>> that can be used in an editor:
>>>
>>> mtxrun
>>>    --gethelp
>>>    --url="http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist"
>>
>>
>> sh: http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist: No such file or
>> directory
>
>
> So what would be the right way? Is there some abstract shortcut to the
> preferred browser?

On Mac OS X it is
    "open <url/file>"
or
    "open -a <SomeApplicationInCaseYouDontWantDefault> <url/file>".

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 10-8-2012 00:39, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 10-8-2012 00:31, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> There is a new feature in mtxrun:
>>>>
>>>> As I wanted to acccess the help on the wiki, I've added a feature to
>>>> mtxrun
>>>> that can be used in an editor:
>>>>
>>>> mtxrun
>>>>     --gethelp
>>>>     --url="http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist"
>>>
>>>
>>> sh: http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist: No such file or
>>> directory
>>
>>
>> So what would be the right way? Is there some abstract shortcut to the
>> preferred browser?
>
> On Mac OS X it is
>      "open <url/file>"
> or
>      "open -a <SomeApplicationInCaseYouDontWantDefault> <url/file>".

Ah, i remember, so we can adapt

   os.launch

I'll send you a test

Hans

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Re: beta

[Philipp Gesang]

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···<date: 2012-08-10, Friday>···<from: Hans Hagen>···

> On 10-8-2012 00:31, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> >On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>There is a new feature in mtxrun:
> >>
> >>As I wanted to acccess the help on the wiki, I've added a feature to mtxrun
> >>that can be used in an editor:
> >>
> >>mtxrun
> >>   --gethelp
> >>   --url="http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist"
> >
> >sh: http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist: No such file or directory
> 
> So what would be the right way? Is there some abstract shortcut to
> the preferred browser?

Hi Hans, there’s the environment variable $BROWSER, as in:

    Lua 5.1.5  Copyright (C) 1994-2012 Lua.org, PUC-Rio
    > return os.getenv"BROWSER"
    /usr/bin/opera
    > 

So ``$BROWSER http://www.foo.bar`` launches the browser from a
shell.

Philipp


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Re: beta

[Romain Diss]

Hi,

Le vendredi 10 août 2012, Hans Hagen a écrit :
> On 10-8-2012 00:31, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >> As I wanted to acccess the help on the wiki, I've added a feature to
> >> mtxrun that can be used in an editor:
> >> 
> >> mtxrun
> >> 
> >>    --gethelp
> >>    --url="http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist"
> > 
> > sh: http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist: No such file or
> > directory
> 
> So what would be the right way? Is there some abstract shortcut to the
> preferred browser?

On unix shells, 'xdg-open' open any file or URL with the appropriate program.

All the best.

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Re: beta

[Philipp Gesang]

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···<date: 2012-08-10, Friday>···<from: Romain Diss>···

> Hi,
> 
> Le vendredi 10 août 2012, Hans Hagen a écrit :
> > On 10-8-2012 00:31, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > >> As I wanted to acccess the help on the wiki, I've added a feature to
> > >> mtxrun that can be used in an editor:
> > >> 
> > >> mtxrun
> > >> 
> > >>    --gethelp
> > >>    --url="http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist"
> > > 
> > > sh: http://www.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist: No such file or
> > > directory
> > 
> > So what would be the right way? Is there some abstract shortcut to the
> > preferred browser?
> 
> On unix shells, 'xdg-open' open any file or URL with the appropriate program.

No, I beg you, don’t use xdg-open. It does not respect the
environment variables set by the user and is the reason why I
have made /usr/bin/firefox into a script that calls my *real*
browser.

xdg-open is not a standard (yet) and will confuse people. Please,
consult https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Default_Applications#xdg-open,
especially the section “how it should work”, before you make the
choice. 

Thanks
Philipp


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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

In the process of mkiv-ing a new beta has been uploaded. This time the 
rendering of sections has been dealt with. New is that one can use 
'setups' for rendering. This mechanism is still somewhat experimental 
(and might get improved) but the idea is given below:


\starttext

     \section{test}

     \unexpanded\def\whatever#1#2{[#1][#2]}

     \setuphead[section][command=\whatever] % traditional

     \section{test}

     \defineheadplacement[whatever]#1#2{(#1)(#2)} % traditional

     \setuphead[section][command=,alternative=whatever]

     \section{test}

     \defineheadalternative % new
       [whatever]
       [alternative=vertical,
        renderingsetup=whatever]

     \startsetups[whatever]
         /\headnumbercontent/\headtextcontent/
     \stopsetups

     \setuphead[section][command=,alternative=whatever]

     \section{test}

\stoptext

There are some helpers. These fetch content:

\headnumbercontent \headtextcontent

These are dimensions:

\headwidth
\headtextwidth
\headnumberdistance
\headnumberwidth

This is for local spacing setup:

\headsetupspacing

These are conditionals

\headshownumber
\headisdisplay

Maybe these names will change. Setups are also used in constructions 
(the building blocks for descriptions, enumerations, notes etc) but 
there some more work is needed.

The code is somewhat faster, but that will probably go unnoticed unless 
one has documents with hundreds of heads.

Hans



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Re: beta

[Meer, H. van der]

This new beta crashed here immidiately:
ConTeXt  ver: 2012.07.09 20:28 MKIV  fmt: 2012.7.9  int: english/english
metapost        > loading 'metafun': /Users/hans/TeX/context-new/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/metafun.mpiv
structure       > sectioning >  @ level 1 : 0 -> \headtext {content}
! Extra \else.

system          > tex > error on line 23 in file practicum.tex: Extra  ...

13     
14     \starttext
15     
16     \startstandardmakeup
17     \input front				% the front page
18     \stopstandardmakeup
19     
20     \startfrontmatter			% the table of contents
21     	\setuppagenumber[number=1,numberconversion=romannumerals]
22     	\completecontent
23 >>  \stopfrontmatter
24     
25     \startbodymatter			% the main body of the contents
26     \setuppagenumber[number=1,numberconversion=numbers]\resetpagenumber
27     \page[right]\input algemeen
28     \page[right]\input transpositie
29     \page[right]\input monoalfabeet
30     \page[right]\input polyalfabeet
31     \page[right]\input midway
32     \page[right]\input isomorfie
33     \page[right]\input kerckhoffs


\strc_sectioning_handle ...ioning_after_yes \else 
                                                  \ifconditional \c_strc_sec...
\strc_sectioning_start_named_section_indeed ...#3}
                                                  \headparameter \c!insidese...
<to be read again> 
                   \strc_lists_combined_place 
\strc_lists_combined_complete ...s_combined_place 
                                                  [#1][#2]\stopnamedsection 
<to be read again> 
                   \stopfrontmatter 
l.23 \stopfrontmatter


Hans van der Meer



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> 
> In the process of mkiv-ing a new beta has been uploaded. This time the rendering of sections has been dealt with. New is that one can use 'setups' for rendering. This mechanism is still somewhat experimental (and might get improved) but the idea is given below:
> 

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 9-7-2012 20:59, Meer, H. van der wrote:
> This new beta crashed here immidiately:

how new? keep in mind that the garden needs to sync as well

Hans

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Re: beta

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···<date: 2012-07-09, Monday>···<from: Hans Hagen>···

> On 9-7-2012 20:59, Meer, H. van der wrote:
> >This new beta crashed here immidiately:
> 
> how new? keep in mind that the garden needs to sync as well

I can confirm this for 2012.07.09 20:28. Minimal example:

·······································································
\setuphead [section] [ page=yes, header=sectiontext, ]
\definetext [sectiontext] [header] [foo] [bar]

\starttext
\startsection[title=Foo] \input dawkins \stopsection
\stoptext \endinput
·······································································

But I can’t tell if this code requires a rewrite with the new
functionality.

Regards
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 9-7-2012 21:44, Philipp Gesang wrote:
> ···<date: 2012-07-09, Monday>···<from: Hans Hagen>···
>
>> On 9-7-2012 20:59, Meer, H. van der wrote:
>>> This new beta crashed here immidiately:
>>
>> how new? keep in mind that the garden needs to sync as well
>
> I can confirm this for 2012.07.09 20:28. Minimal example:
>
> ·······································································
> \setuphead [section] [ page=yes, header=sectiontext, ]
> \definetext [sectiontext] [header] [foo] [bar]
>
> \starttext
> \startsection[title=Foo] \input dawkins \stopsection
> \stoptext \endinput
> ·······································································
>
> But I can’t tell if this code requires a rewrite with the new
> functionality.

fixed in next upload

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Re: beta

[Prashanth]

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Version 2012.07.09 20:28 seems to have fixed all my problems. Thank you!


On 09/07/12 21:30, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 9-7-2012 20:59, Meer, H. van der wrote:
>> This new beta crashed here immidiately:
>
> how new? keep in mind that the garden needs to sync as well
>
> Hans
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Re: beta

[Meer, H. van der]

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Your message was posted 20:38 this day.

The format told me:
ConTeXt  ver: 2012.07.09 20:28 MKIV  fmt: 2012.7.9  int: english/english

I therefore concluded this would be the newst version. Did you perhaps procure a new beta within that 10 minute interval? I would call that a close finish ;-)
I see and do another rush to the server now.

Hans van der Meer



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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta. In the process of cleanup I kicked out some of 
the supp-* modules, most noticeably the visual debugger. That one has 
been replaced by another mechanism and a merge of some functionality 
already present in modules (and more might be moved into it).

As they are often used for testing, \ruledhbox, \ruledvbox and 
\ruledvtop remained and all the others have been replaced by 
placeholders (and might go away). The \show* commands are mostly dummies 
(and will disappear) but these remain:

\showmakeup
\showallmakeup
\showstruts
\showglyphs

Hopefully this doesn't spoil your playing with low level tex stuff.

The good news is that the current implementation provides more detail, 
is more colorful, and comes on (pdf) layers (so that you can hide 
categories).

\showallmakeup

\starttext

     \ruledhbox{hbox} \blank
     \ruledvbox{vbox} \blank
     \ruledvtop{vtop} \blank
     {\definedfont[Serif*default at 30pt] g ff} \blank
     test \strut test \blank
     \input ward \par

\stoptext

You can use \enabletrackers[visualizer.*] with * being
fontkern, kern, glue, penalty, hbox, vbox, all, reset, makeup, whatsit, 
and glyph.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Bill Meahan]

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On 06/27/2012 08:52, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta. In the process of cleanup I kicked out some of
> the supp-* modules, most noticeably the visual debugger. That one has
> been replaced by another mechanism and a merge of some functionality
> already present in modules (and more might be moved into it).
>


Which beta will be included in the released version of texlive 2012?

Will other updates be included in texlive updates?

Just curious about how closely the texlive version (which I use) follows 
the beta version referred to on the list.

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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Bill Meahan wrote:
>
> Which beta will be included in the released version of texlive 2012?

2012.05.24 19:36 (plus two or three minor changes from later versions)

> Will other updates be included in texlive updates?

No. They might be included in TLContrib, but betas are often "a bit
broken" and I find it very important to have a stable working version
at least in TeX Live.

> Just curious about how closely the texlive version (which I use) follows the
> beta version referred to on the list.

ConTeXt is updated only once per year for TeX Live, during TeX Live
freeze period & short before a new release. Just enough to allow some
testing.

Bugs that are reported & easy to fix may see bugfixes in TeX Live, but
betas as such won't propagate into TL. Also, if fonts that are being
used by ConTeXt will be updated during the year, it might be desirable
to update font names in ConTeXt in TeX Live as well.

Mojca
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 27-6-2012 16:11, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> Bugs that are reported & easy to fix may see bugfixes in TeX Live, but
> betas as such won't propagate into TL. Also, if fonts that are being
> used by ConTeXt will be updated during the year, it might be desirable
> to update font names in ConTeXt in TeX Live as well.

the same is true for dependencies on engines (well, one engine nowadays)

Hans

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Re: beta

[Bill Meahan]

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On 06/27/2012 10:11, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

>
> No. They might be included in TLContrib, but betas are often "a bit
> broken" and I find it very important to have a stable working version
> at least in TeX Live.
>

> Bugs that are reported&  easy to fix may see bugfixes in TeX Live, but
> betas as such won't propagate into TL. Also, if fonts that are being
> used by ConTeXt will be updated during the year, it might be desirable
> to update font names in ConTeXt in TeX Live as well.
>
> Mojca

Great information. Over four decades of working on computers (hardware 
design through embedded OS creation through global corporate app 
development) have taught me to be wary of chasing "features" in The 
Latest and Greatest version of anything. :)

Bug fixes are a different issue!

I'm really beginning to love ConTeXt over LaTeX and I'm glad to see the 
extensive work you folks are doing to improve the product.

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Re: beta

[luigi scarso]

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Bill Meahan <wmeahan94@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm really beginning to love ConTeXt over LaTeX and I'm glad to see the
> extensive work you folks are doing to improve the product.

You can also see an  exotic extension of MKIV in
http://www.gust.org.pl/bachotex/2011-en/presentations/Scarso_2_2011

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Re: beta

[Bill Meahan]

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On 06/27/2012 11:22, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Bill Meahan<wmeahan94@gmail.com>  wrote:

> You can also see an  exotic extension of MKIV in
> http://www.gust.org.pl/bachotex/2011-en/presentations/Scarso_2_2011
>

Yep. That is definitely exotic!

My use-case has nothing to do with mathematics, I'm more interested in 
typesetting traditional prose according to various book designs. Also in 
publishing an organizational newsletter which has a fixed layout hence 
is amenable to using TeX rather than DTP.

Terrific product that can handle both your usage and mine just as adroitly.

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 27-6-2012 16:02, Bill Meahan wrote:

 > Which beta will be included in the released version of texlive 2012?

already frozen

> Will other updates be included in texlive updates?

upto mojca ... maybe we will push more 'currents'

> Just curious about how closely the texlive version (which I use) follows
> the beta version referred to on the list.

normally the garden version is ahead

Hans

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

Hi,

Thanks for the new features, Hans!
I don't know whether you overlooked my previous message about the distance problem with integral signs: it is still there, that is in mkiv $\int_\Omega$ results in \Omega too far away from the integral sign. In mkii everything is correct.

Best regards: OK
PS: minimal example:
\starttext
\startformula
\int_{\Omega}f(x)dx = \int_{0}^\infty g(x)dx
\stopformula
\stoptext

and the result can be seen here:
	http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4316076/math-integral-bug-1.pdf

On 27 juin 2012, at 14:52, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a new beta. In the process of cleanup I kicked out some of the supp-* modules, most noticeably the visual debugger. That one has been replaced by another mechanism and a merge of some functionality already present in modules (and more might be moved into it).
> 
> As they are often used for testing, \ruledhbox, \ruledvbox and \ruledvtop remained and all the others have been replaced by placeholders (and might go away). The \show* commands are mostly dummies (and will disappear) but these remain:
> 
> \showmakeup
> \showallmakeup
> \showstruts
> \showglyphs
> 
> Hopefully this doesn't spoil your playing with low level tex stuff.
> 
> The good news is that the current implementation provides more detail, is more colorful, and comes on (pdf) layers (so that you can hide categories).
> 
> \showallmakeup
> 
> \starttext
> 
>    \ruledhbox{hbox} \blank
>    \ruledvbox{vbox} \blank
>    \ruledvtop{vtop} \blank
>    {\definedfont[Serif*default at 30pt] g ff} \blank
>    test \strut test \blank
>    \input ward \par
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> You can use \enabletrackers[visualizer.*] with * being
> fontkern, kern, glue, penalty, hbox, vbox, all, reset, makeup, whatsit, and glyph.
> 
> Hans
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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta that has a (first) update/cleanup of the context 
runner script. The most important changes are

- no longer an option file (jobname.opt)
- no longer stub files (for xml and cld)
- handling of (most of the) ctx files happens elsewhere (job control)

In principle all this should go unnoticed, although one might notice the 
difference in the call to luatex.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Hans,

Thanks for the new beta.
I made some testings and did not notice any problem or new bug.
I wanted just to remind you of an issue with interaction in references to footnotes: when a footnote is in the title of a chapter (or section) then, in mkiv, the link does not work as expected. In mkii everything is fine.

Below is a minimal example showing the issue with 
	ConTeXt  ver: 2012.06.05 09:16 MKIV  fmt: 2012.6.5  int: english/english

Best regards: OK
PS: the minimal example is here:
%%% begin bug-link-footnote.tex
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\setupcolors[state=start]

\starttext

\chapter{Testing a chapter\footnote[note:test]{Actually for testing footnotes in a chapter header\dots}}

\input knuth.tex

\page

\input ward.tex

The link to \in{footnote}[note:test] does not work in mkiv, while it does in mkii.

\stoptext
%%% end bug-link-footnote.tex

On 5 juin 2012, at 09:30, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a beta that has a (first) update/cleanup of the context runner script. The most important changes are
> 
> - no longer an option file (jobname.opt)
> - no longer stub files (for xml and cld)
> - handling of (most of the) ctx files happens elsewhere (job control)
> 
> In principle all this should go unnoticed, although one might notice the difference in the call to luatex.
> 
> Hans
> 
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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On 6/5/12 9:30 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a beta that has a (first) update/cleanup of the context
> runner script. The most important changes are
>
> - no longer an option file (jobname.opt)
> - no longer stub files (for xml and cld)
> - handling of (most of the) ctx files happens elsewhere (job control)
>
> In principle all this should go unnoticed, although one might notice the
> difference in the call to luatex.
>
> Hans

Hans,

the latest beta finds, but doesn't use my environment files any more. 
Example: I have an environment called lucian-style.tex which is found:

mtxrun --locate lucian-style.tex
/Users/tas/texmf/tex/generic/lucian-style.tex

But when I compile my xml with

context --environment=lucian-style.tex lucian.xml

it isn't read and used. Everything works as expected with the beta of 
05.30.2012.

All best

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta. Apart from some fixes, the biggest change is in 
dealing with positional info and text backgrounds (first stage cleanup). 
  As I have no clue to what extend users mess around with background 
graphics themselves, it's hard to predict side effects, but the biggest 
impact is speed. The adventurous might want to try out

\setuptextbackground
   [mp=mpos:par:region,
    method=mpos:par:region]

or with some more visual tracing

\setuptextbackground
   [mp=mpos:par:region:kind,
    method=mpos:par:region]

A simple test with some 200 backgrounds brings down runtime with one 
second on my machine (not the fastest anyway).

Apart from a performance gain, backgrounds are now also supported in 
regular multicolumns as well as in some specific mechanisms like 
tabulate and xtables. In xtables one needs to set region=yes in order to 
get the desired results. Actually, the region key is a new one in framed 
so anything that can be framed can also have fancy text  backgrounds.

Yet another improvement is that (although rather untested) you can do 
things like

     \starttextbackground[r] START
     \dorecurse{10}{
         \dorecurse{1}{\input ward }
         \placefigure[right]{}{}
         some text before BEGIN \dorecurse{2}{\input ward } END some after
         \placefigure[left]{}{}
         some text before BEGIN \dorecurse{2}{\input ward } END some after
         \placefigure[right]{}{}
         some text before BEGIN \dorecurse{2}{\input ward } END some after
     }
     STOP \stoptextbackground
     \dorecurse{1}{\input ward }

and get more or less expected results. Keep in mind that it can never 
get perfect due to all kind of possible interference. Also, keep away 
from internals as they will quite certainly change.

Hans



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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Hans,

Thanks for the new beta: as a matter of fact it seems to be much faster the previous ones, even with many backgrounds!

I wanted to submit a small bug with the « \prime » in math mode: the following gives an error
%%%%%% begin example.tex
\starttext
The function $\exp$ is the unique solution of 
\startformula
u'(x) = u(x) \quad u(0) = 1.
\stopformula
\stoptext
%%%%% end example.tex

The error message is:
\301>c ->\egroup 
                 
<to be read again> 
                   (
l.6 u'(
       x) = u(x) \quad u(0) = 1.

Best regards: OK

On 16 févr. 2012, at 10:17, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a beta. Apart from some fixes, the biggest change is in dealing with positional info and text backgrounds (first stage cleanup).  As I have no clue to what extend users mess around with background graphics themselves, it's hard to predict side effects, but the biggest impact is speed. The adventurous might want to try out
> 
> \setuptextbackground
>  [mp=mpos:par:region,
>   method=mpos:par:region]
> 
> or with some more visual tracing
> 
> \setuptextbackground
>  [mp=mpos:par:region:kind,
>   method=mpos:par:region]
> 
> A simple test with some 200 backgrounds brings down runtime with one second on my machine (not the fastest anyway).
> 
> Apart from a performance gain, backgrounds are now also supported in regular multicolumns as well as in some specific mechanisms like tabulate and xtables. In xtables one needs to set region=yes in order to get the desired results. Actually, the region key is a new one in framed so anything that can be framed can also have fancy text  backgrounds.
> 
> Yet another improvement is that (although rather untested) you can do things like
> 
>    \starttextbackground[r] START
>    \dorecurse{10}{
>        \dorecurse{1}{\input ward }
>        \placefigure[right]{}{}
>        some text before BEGIN \dorecurse{2}{\input ward } END some after
>        \placefigure[left]{}{}
>        some text before BEGIN \dorecurse{2}{\input ward } END some after
>        \placefigure[right]{}{}
>        some text before BEGIN \dorecurse{2}{\input ward } END some after
>    }
>    STOP \stoptextbackground
>    \dorecurse{1}{\input ward }
> 
> and get more or less expected results. Keep in mind that it can never get perfect due to all kind of possible interference. Also, keep away from internals as they will quite certainly change.
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> 
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 16-2-2012 14:53, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> Thanks for the new beta: as a matter of fact it seems to be much faster the previous ones, even with many backgrounds!
>
> I wanted to submit a small bug with the « \prime » in math mode: the following gives an error
> %%%%%% begin example.tex
> \starttext
> The function $\exp$ is the unique solution of
> \startformula
> u'(x) = u(x) \quad u(0) = 1.
> \stopformula
> \stoptext
> %%%%% end example.tex
>
> The error message is:
> \301>c ->\egroup

fixed (hopefully)


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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Hans,

Another small issue with the new beta (ConTeXt  ver: 2012.02.16 13:05 MKIV): the key « location= hanging » does not work anymore in enumerations.
Minimal example:
%%%%%% 
\defineenumeration[Exo]
	[location=hanging,
	width=fit,
	text={Exercise }, 
	stopper={.}]

\starttext

\startExo This is a test: this line should not be below « Exercise 1. »\dots

\stopExo

\stoptext
%%%%%
Best regards: OK

On 16 févr. 2012, at 10:17, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a beta. Apart from some fixes, the biggest change is in dealing with positional info and text backgrounds (first stage cleanup).  As I have no clue to what extend users mess around with background graphics themselves, it's hard to predict side effects, but the biggest impact is speed. The adventurous might want to try out
> 
> \setuptextbackground
>  [mp=mpos:par:region,
>   method=mpos:par:region]
> 
> or with some more visual tracing
> 
> \setuptextbackground
>  [mp=mpos:par:region:kind,
>   method=mpos:par:region]
> 
> A simple test with some 200 backgrounds brings down runtime with one second on my machine (not the fastest anyway).
> 
> Apart from a performance gain, backgrounds are now also supported in regular multicolumns as well as in some specific mechanisms like tabulate and xtables. In xtables one needs to set region=yes in order to get the desired results. Actually, the region key is a new one in framed so anything that can be framed can also have fancy text  backgrounds.
> 
> Yet another improvement is that (although rather untested) you can do things like
> 
>    \starttextbackground[r] START
>    \dorecurse{10}{
>        \dorecurse{1}{\input ward }
>        \placefigure[right]{}{}
>        some text before BEGIN \dorecurse{2}{\input ward } END some after
>        \placefigure[left]{}{}
>        some text before BEGIN \dorecurse{2}{\input ward } END some after
>        \placefigure[right]{}{}
>        some text before BEGIN \dorecurse{2}{\input ward } END some after
>    }
>    STOP \stoptextbackground
>    \dorecurse{1}{\input ward }
> 
> and get more or less expected results. Keep in mind that it can never get perfect due to all kind of possible interference. Also, keep away from internals as they will quite certainly change.
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> 
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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 16.02.2012 um 17:44 schrieb Otared Kavian:

> Hi Hans,
> 
> Another small issue with the new beta (ConTeXt  ver: 2012.02.16 13:05 MKIV): the key « location= hanging » does not work anymore in enumerations.

Enumerations and descriptions use now the “alternative” key for the position of the title.

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

On 16 févr. 2012, at 19:30, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> 
> Am 16.02.2012 um 17:44 schrieb Otared Kavian:
> 
>> Hi Hans,
>> 
>> Another small issue with the new beta (ConTeXt  ver: 2012.02.16 13:05 MKIV): the key « location= hanging » does not work anymore in enumerations.
> 
> Enumerations and descriptions use now the “alternative” key for the position of the title.
> 
> Wolfgang

…Oh thanks Wolfgang… Somehow I missed the announcement of the change.
The following gives the desired result:

\defineenumeration[Exo]
	[alternative=hanging,
	width=fit,
	text={Exercise }, 
	stopper={.}]

Best regards: OK
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 16-2-2012 19:30, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 16.02.2012 um 17:44 schrieb Otared Kavian:
>
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> Another small issue with the new beta (ConTeXt  ver: 2012.02.16 13:05 MKIV): the key « location= hanging » does not work anymore in enumerations.
>
> Enumerations and descriptions use now the “alternative” key for the position of the title.

This is one of the things that I'm still considering ... alternative is 
more consistent with other mechanisms. Also, notes use location for 
where notes are placed.

We can consider some compatibility hack:

\setupenumerations
   [\c!alternative=\descriptionparameter\c!location,
    \c!location=\v!left]

\setupenumerations
   [\c!alternative=\descriptionparameter\c!location,
    \c!location=\v!left]

So, alternative wins but defaults to location.

Anyhow, eventually descriptions will have an 'installable alternatives' 
mechanism like lists, although they differ too much to be shared.

Hans



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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta to the website. The most important upgrades concern 
the font subsystem.

- there was still some mkii code around ... all that has gone ... as a 
consequence all code has been overhauled (a rather tedious job) ... some 
code might be a bit faster (but nothing fundamental changed)

- designsizes are now dealt with in a different way but as only lm has 
them no one will probably notice .. anyway it saves a lot of definitions 
and (at least on my machine) the start up is somewhat faster

- the type-otf file is no longer used but its content has been 
distributed over a some smaller files ... loading these files is rather 
automatic and it should be compatible .. again this might give a (small) 
startup speed improvement (and a bit less memory which quite certainly 
goes unnoticed compared to the average memory usage)

- bodyfont environments are a bit more flexible now  which was one of 
the reasons for rewriting much code as there is some complex inheritance 
and defaulting going on there

- Wolfgang is adapting / extending the simple fonts code but in 
principle it should still work

In addition, the lists related code has been reorganized / redone and it 
seems to be ok. There have been some conceptual changes to the list 
rendering (easier for future extensions) but old commands still apply. 
It's anyhow still somewhat experimental.

Of course there are some fixes and other cleanups done.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Hans,

I updated to the beta (2012.01.24) and doing my usual test suites, I encountered two bugs: one is with \placeformula, another with \int.
My minimal test with mkiv is:

\starttext
Here is a well-known identity due to Leonhard Euler in which the five most important numbers appear:
\placeformula[eq:Euler]
\startformula
{\rm e}^{{\rm i}\pi} + 1 = 0, \qquad \mbox{where}\; {\rm i} := \sqrt{-1}.
\stopformula
By the way, $\int_{0}^{2\pi} \sin(x)dx = 0$.
\stoptext

and the error message, concerning \placeformula, points to:
	<argument> \doconvertedstructurecounter 
                                        [\v!formula ][]
	\flushbothlabelclass #1#2#3->#1#3
                                 #2
	<argument> ...spaces \doplacecurrentformulanumber 
                                                  \removeunwantedspaces \dos...
	\flushbothlabelclass #1#2#3->#1#3
                                 #2
	\namedtaggedlabeltexts ...\dostarttagged {#1}{#2}}
                                                  \dostoptagged \endgroup 
	\placecurrentformulanumber ...moveunwantedspaces }
                                                  \formulaparameter \c!right…

while the error message concerning to \int seems to say that \int is not defined.

Everything is fine with mkii.

Best regards: OK

On 24 janv. 2012, at 11:28, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a beta to the website. The most important upgrades concern the font subsystem.
> 
> - there was still some mkii code around ... all that has gone ... as a consequence all code has been overhauled (a rather tedious job) ... some code might be a bit faster (but nothing fundamental changed)
> 
> - designsizes are now dealt with in a different way but as only lm has them no one will probably notice .. anyway it saves a lot of definitions and (at least on my machine) the start up is somewhat faster
> 
> - the type-otf file is no longer used but its content has been distributed over a some smaller files ... loading these files is rather automatic and it should be compatible .. again this might give a (small) startup speed improvement (and a bit less memory which quite certainly goes unnoticed compared to the average memory usage)
> 
> - bodyfont environments are a bit more flexible now  which was one of the reasons for rewriting much code as there is some complex inheritance and defaulting going on there
> 
> - Wolfgang is adapting / extending the simple fonts code but in principle it should still work
> 
> In addition, the lists related code has been reorganized / redone and it seems to be ok. There have been some conceptual changes to the list rendering (easier for future extensions) but old commands still apply. It's anyhow still somewhat experimental.
> 
> Of course there are some fixes and other cleanups done.
> 
> Hans
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 24-1-2012 14:15, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> I updated to the beta (2012.01.24) and doing my usual test suites, I encountered two bugs: one is with \placeformula, another with \int.
> My minimal test with mkiv is:

fixed

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta. Apart from some fixes the core font/type modules 
have been cleaned up so there might be temporary font side effects.

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Re: beta

[Vianney le Clément]

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 18:40, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> I uploaded a new beta. Apart from some fixes the core font/type modules have
> been cleaned up so there might be temporary font side effects.

Seems like those cleanups have broken the simplefonts module.

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[Gentium]
\starttext
\input{tufte}
\stoptext

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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 09.01.2012 um 09:55 schrieb Vianney le Clément:

> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 18:40, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>> I uploaded a new beta. Apart from some fixes the core font/type modules have
>> been cleaned up so there might be temporary font side effects.
> 
> Seems like those cleanups have broken the simplefonts module.
> 
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> \setmainfont[Gentium]
> \starttext
> \input{tufte}
> \stoptext

Fixed.

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Re: beta

[Vianney le Clément]

2012/1/9 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>:
> Fixed.
>
> Wolfgang

Thanks Wolfgang, it works with today's minimals.

@Hans: in the latest beta, the "textdistance" parameter for inline
itemize does not work anymore. But it's not a showstopper for me as
I'm happy with the new default :o).

Example:
\starttext
Hello \startitemize[text][textdistance=0.5em] \item One \item Two
\stopitemize world.
\stoptext

BTW, the "bypage" footnote numbering is still broken. Any workaround?

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Re: beta

[Mari Voipio]

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 19:40, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> I uploaded a new beta. Apart from some fixes the core font/type modules have
> been cleaned up so there might be temporary font side effects.

Looks like \showsetups got broken...


! Undefined control sequence.

system          > tex > error on line 6 in file fico_booklet.tex:
Undefined control sequence ...

 1
 2     \setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape] %write on A5, put two onto A4 sheet
 3     % \setuparranging[2UP,rotated,doublesided]  %booklet arranging
 4     \setuparranging[2UP]  %booklet arranging
 5
 6 >>  \showsetups
 7
 7
 8     \setuplayout
 9       [backspace=0pt,
10         topspace=0pt,
11            width=middle,
12           height=middle,
13         location=middle,
14           header=0pt,
15           footer=0pt]
16     \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]


\font_helpers_low_level_define ...mexpr \textface
                                                  \relax \else \d_font_scale...
\font_basics_define_font_without_parameters ...ic
                                                  \csname \v_font_identifier...
\font_basics_defined_font_yes ...edefinedfont}{#1}
                                                  \thedefinedfont \the \ever...
<argument> ...artreadingfile \startnointerference
                                                  \cleanupfeatures \readfile...
\firstofoneargument #1->#1

\dofetchruntimecommand ...\doglobal \setflag {#2}}
                                                  \ifx #1\undefined \writest...
l.6 \showsetups

?
>Process failed to respond; forcing abrupt termination...
>Exit code: 1



I double-checked with a file that definitely compiled today: as soon
as I uncomment \showsetups in the setup area (=beg of file), it
fails...



Mari
I don't use it often, but I'm pretty sure it worked in the Dec 23
version and it doesn't on the ConTeXt I installed this morning.
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 10-1-2012 11:59, Mari Voipio wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 19:40, Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>  wrote:
>> I uploaded a new beta. Apart from some fixes the core font/type modules have
>> been cleaned up so there might be temporary font side effects.
>
> Looks like \showsetups got broken...

it should come after \starttext


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Re: beta

[Mari Voipio]

Also, now 2UP fails totally:

system          > tex > error on line 1 in file fico_booklet.tex:
Undefined control sequence ...

 1 >>  \setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape] %write on A5, put two onto A4 sheet
 2     % \setuparranging[2UP,rotated,doublesided]  %booklet arranging
 3     \setuparranging[2UP]  %booklet arranging
 4
 5     % \showsetups
 6
 7     \setuplayout
 8       [backspace=0pt,
 9         topspace=0pt,
10            width=middle,
11           height=middle,


\meta_grab_clip_path ...ght \ifcsname \??mpmpclip
                                                  #1\endcsname \meta_start_c...
\dostartclipping ... \width \height l 0 \height l}
                                                  \pdfliteral {q 0 w \MPclip...
\grph_clip_yes_finish ...cpmp \!!dimena \!!dimenb
                                                  \box \nextbox \dostopclipp...
\page_boxes_apply_clip_print_indeed ... ]{\box #2}
                                                  }}\wd #2\scratchwidth \ht ...
\handlearrangedpage ..._print_left \arrangedpageB
                                                  \box \arrangedpageB \page_...
\@@ar@@1 #1#2->\handlearrangedpage
                                   \bgroup \paperwidth \arrangedpageX \paper...
...
l.27 \stoptext

?


(That \setuppapersize works alone, but if I try adding 2UP to it, no hope...)



Mari
(who thankfully doesn't need it that badly - yet)
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 10-1-2012 12:05, Mari Voipio wrote:
> Also, now 2UP fails totally:
>
> system>  tex>  error on line 1 in file fico_booklet.tex:
> Undefined control sequence ...
>
>   1>>   \setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape] %write on A5, put two onto A4 sheet
>   2     % \setuparranging[2UP,rotated,doublesided]  %booklet arranging
>   3     \setuparranging[2UP]  %booklet arranging
>   4
>   5     % \showsetups
>   6
>   7     \setuplayout
>   8       [backspace=0pt,
>   9         topspace=0pt,
> 10            width=middle,
> 11           height=middle,
>
>
> \meta_grab_clip_path ...ght \ifcsname \??mpmpclip

should be \??mpclip in meta-ini.mkiv


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Re: beta

[Mari Voipio]

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 13:05, Mari Voipio <mari.voipio@iki.fi> wrote:
> Also, now 2UP fails totally:

This morning I updated my ConTeXt to assumably newest version (ver:
2012.01.11 14:58 MKIV  fmt: 2012.1.12) and it is back to square 1 with
2UP: it doesn't hang, but the resulting A4 landscape sheet file only
contains blank sheets.

I also found, that e.g. the following works if I force MKII, but MKIV
crashes on it, and it did not do that on Tuesday:


\setuppapersize[A6][A3,landscape] %individual page A6 size, print size A3
\setuparranging[1*8] %makes an 8 page gathering when folded (duplex printing!)
\setuplayout
  [backspace=0pt,
    topspace=0pt,
       width=middle,
      height=middle,
    location=middle,
      header=0pt,
      footer=0pt]

\starttext

\insertpages
  [file.pdf][width=0pt]

\stoptext



Log message:
system          > 4.4 arranged at 4
! Missing { inserted.

system          > tex > error on line 16 in file
seremoniakirja_booklet.tex: Missing { inserted ...

 6            width=middle,
 7           height=middle,
 8         location=middle,
 9           header=0pt,
10           footer=0pt]
11
12     \starttext
13
14     \insertpages
15       [Aarni_seremoniakirja.pdf][width=0pt]
16 >>
17     \stoptext

<to be read again>
                   \hbox
\grph_rotate_finish_indeed ->\hbox
                                   \bgroup \ifx \p_rotation_rotation \empty ...
\syst_boxes_with_next_box ...rotate_finish_indeed
                                                  \egroup \egroup
\handlearrangedpageXandY ...80\fi }\hbox {\box #1}
                                                  \vfill }\wd \scratchbox \z...
\pusharrangedpage ...eXandY {#1}131\arrangedpageA
                                                  \or \handlearrangedpageXan...
\page_shipouts_arrange ...rrangedpage \scratchbox
                                                  \deadcycles \zerocount \en...
...
l.16


___________


Good news is that I obviously can rely on MKII to postprocess pdf:s
(2UP works there, too), so my somewhat urgent current project just
became unstuck. :-)




Regards,

Mari
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 12-1-2012 09:51, Mari Voipio wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 13:05, Mari Voipio<mari.voipio@iki.fi>  wrote:
>> Also, now 2UP fails totally:
>
> This morning I updated my ConTeXt to assumably newest version (ver:
> 2012.01.11 14:58 MKIV  fmt: 2012.1.12) and it is back to square 1 with
> 2UP: it doesn't hang, but the resulting A4 landscape sheet file only
> contains blank sheets.
>
> I also found, that e.g. the following works if I force MKII, but MKIV
> crashes on it, and it did not do that on Tuesday:

i'll have a look at it (the rotate macro has been redone recently)

Hans


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\setlayerframed align-option causes shift

[Andreas Harder]

Hi Hans,

setting the align-option of \setlayerframed causes a small (but visible) right shift.

\definelayer[page][width=\paperwidth,height=\paperheight]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=page]

\starttext  \showframe
  \setlayerframed [page]
    [x=\backspace,y=\topspace]
    [width=broad,height=\headerheight,align=right] {Not OK}
    % [width=broad,height=\headerheight] {OK}
  
  \page[empty]
\stoptext


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Hi,

I uploaded a new beta ... hopefully not too many renaming side effects

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Re: beta

[Andreas Harder]

On 02.01.2012, at 17:28, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a new beta ... hopefully not too many renaming side effects


• xtables

\starttext
  \startxtable
  \startxrow \startxcell test \stopxcell \stopxrow
  \stopxtable
\stoptext

! LuaTeX error ...-old/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/tabl-xtb.lua:913: incorrect index value -1 for tex.getcount()


• drawoptions + textext()

\startMPpage[offset=1ex]
  drawoptions(withcolor red) ;  
  draw textext("test") ;
\stopMPpage

! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=10000].


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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 2-1-2012 18:46, Andreas Harder wrote:

> ! LuaTeX error ...-old/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/tabl-xtb.lua:913: incorrect index value -1 for tex.getcount()
> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=10000].

fixed


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Re: beta

[Andreas Harder]

On 02.01.2012, at 19:41, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 2-1-2012 18:46, Andreas Harder wrote:
> 
>> ! LuaTeX error ...-old/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/tabl-xtb.lua:913: incorrect index value -1 for tex.getcount()
>> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=10000].
> 
> fixed

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Re: beta

[Andreas Harder]

On 02.01.2012, at 19:41, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 2-1-2012 18:46, Andreas Harder wrote:
> 
>> ! LuaTeX error ...-old/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/tabl-xtb.lua:913: incorrect index value -1 for tex.getcount()
>> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=10000].
> 
> fixed

• \processxtablebuffer[…]

\starttext
\startbuffer[table]
  \startxtable
  \startxrow \startxcell test \stopxcell \stopxrow
  \stopxtable
\stopbuffer
\processxtablebuffer[table]
% \getbuffer[table] % OK
\stoptext

! File ended while scanning use of \next.

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Re: beta

[Andreas Harder]

On 02.01.2012, at 21:06, Andreas Harder wrote:

> 
> On 02.01.2012, at 19:41, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
>> On 2-1-2012 18:46, Andreas Harder wrote:
>> 
>>> ! LuaTeX error ...-old/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/tabl-xtb.lua:913: incorrect index value -1 for tex.getcount()
>>> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=10000].
>> 
>> fixed
> 
> • \processxtablebuffer[…]
> 
> \starttext
> \startbuffer[table]
>  \startxtable
>  \startxrow \startxcell test \stopxcell \stopxrow
>  \stopxtable
> \stopbuffer
> \processxtablebuffer[table]
> % \getbuffer[table] % OK
> \stoptext
> 
> ! File ended while scanning use of \next.

Fixed, thank you!

Probably the last for today.

\defineinterlinespace[heads][line=2ex]
\setuphead[chapter][interlinespace=heads]

\starttext
  \chapter{Some long chapter head. Some long chapter head.}
\stoptext

! Undefined control sequence.

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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On 01/02/2012 05:28 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta ... hopefully not too many renaming side effects

Hi Hans,

all best for the New Year! And thanks for the wonderful New Year's card 
- I received two of them and could appreciate the full randomness of it 
all...

In the latest beta, the file hand-ini.mkiv is gone, so \enableprotruding 
is no longer defined. An oversight, I guess? Other than that, the 
parameters mechanism appears to have changed, so it baulks at our 
simpleslides module which uses this all over the place. I'll have to 
make a minimal example later. I keep 2011.11.29 around, for when I need 
urgent results...

All best

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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 02.01.2012 um 20:51 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz:

> On 01/02/2012 05:28 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I uploaded a new beta ... hopefully not too many renaming side effects
> 
> Hi Hans,
> 
> all best for the New Year! And thanks for the wonderful New Year's card - I received two of them and could appreciate the full randomness of it all...
> 
> In the latest beta, the file hand-ini.mkiv is gone,

I can’t reproduce this because I have the file on my system.

> so \enableprotruding is no longer defined. An oversight, I guess? Other than that, the parameters mechanism appears to have changed, so it baulks at our simpleslides module which uses this all over the place. I'll have to make a minimal example later. I keep 2011.11.29 around, for when I need urgent results…

Protrusion and font expansion are enabled with \setupalign[hanging] and \setupalign[hz] (or “align=hanging” and “align=hz” for \framed).

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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On 01/02/2012 09:08 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> In the latest beta, the file hand-ini.mkiv is gone,
> I can’t reproduce this because I have the file on my system.

That may be the case, but the question is how it got there. Not by 
running first-setup.sh - I just did a test run into an empty directory, 
and it's not there.

>> >  so \enableprotruding is no longer defined. An oversight, I guess? Other than that, the parameters mechanism appears to have changed, so it baulks at our simpleslides module which uses this all over the place. I'll have to make a minimal example later. I keep 2011.11.29 around, for when I need urgent results…
> Protrusion and font expansion are enabled with \setupalign[hanging] and \setupalign[hz] (or “align=hanging” and “align=hz” for \framed).

Is \enableprotruding obsolete, then?

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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 02.01.2012 um 21:19 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz:

> On 01/02/2012 09:08 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>> In the latest beta, the file hand-ini.mkiv is gone,
>> I can’t reproduce this because I have the file on my system.
> 
> That may be the case, but the question is how it got there. Not by running first-setup.sh - I just did a test run into an empty directory, and it's not there.

I deleted the texmf-context folder and hand-ini.mkiv was downloaded when I run first-setup.sh, it’s also included in the cont-tmf archive from Hans.

>>> >  so \enableprotruding is no longer defined. An oversight, I guess? Other than that, the parameters mechanism appears to have changed, so it baulks at our simpleslides module which uses this all over the place. I'll have to make a minimal example later. I keep 2011.11.29 around, for when I need urgent results…
>> Protrusion and font expansion are enabled with \setupalign[hanging] and \setupalign[hz] (or “align=hanging” and “align=hz” for \framed).
> 
> Is \enableprotruding obsolete, then?

Yes, it’s now a internal command with the name \font_expansion_enable (the _ means it’s a internal command).

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Re: beta

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On 01/02/2012 09:29 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> I deleted the texmf-context folder and hand-ini.mkiv was downloaded when I run first-setup.sh, it’s also included in the cont-tmf archive from Hans.

Hmm, maybe system-dependent? I'm on linux-64; I'll try with my OS X box.

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 2-1-2012 21:19, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On 01/02/2012 09:08 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>> In the latest beta, the file hand-ini.mkiv is gone,
>> I can’t reproduce this because I have the file on my system.
>
> That may be the case, but the question is how it got there. Not by
> running first-setup.sh - I just did a test run into an empty directory,
> and it's not there.
>
>>> > so \enableprotruding is no longer defined. An oversight, I guess?
>>> Other than that, the parameters mechanism appears to have changed, so
>>> it baulks at our simpleslides module which uses this all over the
>>> place. I'll have to make a minimal example later. I keep 2011.11.29
>>> around, for when I need urgent results…
>> Protrusion and font expansion are enabled with \setupalign[hanging]
>> and \setupalign[hz] (or “align=hanging” and “align=hz” for \framed).
>
> Is \enableprotruding obsolete, then?

One can wonder if it ever was solete

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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On 01/02/2012 09:45 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

 >> Is \enableprotruding obsolete, then?
> One can wonder if it ever was solete
>
> Hans

OK, I see :-) Must have been a leftover from the olden days, when we had 
to compile our context documents with a magnetized needle and a steady 
hand directly on the hard disk, remember those days? So anyway: I just 
found hand-ini.mkiv even on my linux installation, I had just not looked 
hard enough. The command is gone, and after replacing \enableprotruding 
with the proper new command, the document compiles (without protrusion, 
but that's another story...)

Thanks, and all best

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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 02.01.2012 um 23:23 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz:

> On 01/02/2012 09:45 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
> >> Is \enableprotruding obsolete, then?
>> One can wonder if it ever was solete
>> 
>> Hans
> 
> OK, I see :-) Must have been a leftover from the olden days, when we had to compile our context documents with a magnetized needle and a steady hand directly on the hard disk, remember those days? So anyway: I just found hand-ini.mkiv even on my linux installation, I had just not looked hard enough. The command is gone, and after replacing \enableprotruding with the proper new command, the document compiles (without protrusion, but that's another story…)

You have \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=quality] or a similar setting in your document?

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Re: beta

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On 01/02/2012 11:46 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> You have \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=quality] or a similar setting in your document?
>
> Wolfgang

Now I do... Thanks Wolfgang, it works now!

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 2-1-2012 20:51, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> all best for the New Year! And thanks for the wonderful New Year's card
> - I received two of them and could appreciate the full randomness of it
> all...

Thanks for your calendar .. always impressive to read how active your 
kids are

> In the latest beta, the file hand-ini.mkiv is gone, so \enableprotruding

That's a low level thing ... never meant to be used by users .. it's:

\setupalign[hanging]

> is no longer defined. An oversight, I guess? Other than that, the
> parameters mechanism appears to have changed, so it baulks at our
> simpleslides module which uses this all over the place. I'll have to
> make a minimal example later. I keep 2011.11.29 around, for when I need
> urgent results...

well, not really changed, but extended ... depends on how you use it ... 
I'm busy changing all namespaces and renaming low level code .. but 
regular parameter code should work (unless you use real low level never 
meant to be used code) ... what is the message?

Hans

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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On 01/02/2012 09:44 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Other than that, the
>> parameters mechanism appears to have changed, so it baulks at our
>> simpleslides module which uses this all over the place. I'll have to
>> make a minimal example later. I keep 2011.11.29 around, for when I need
>> urgent results...
>
> well, not really changed, but extended ... depends on how you use it ...
> I'm busy changing all namespaces and renaming low level code .. but
> regular parameter code should work (unless you use real low level never
> meant to be used code) ... what is the message?

Here it is:

! Undefined control sequence.

system          > tex > error on line 214 in file archaik.run: Undefined 
control sequence ...


<argument> \??vars
                    :simpleslides:title:
\dousestylehashparameter #1#2->\ifcsname #1
                                            #2\endcsname \expandafter 
\douses...
\dostartattributes ...estylehashparameter {#1}{#2}
 
\dousecolorhashparameter {...
\placeTitle ...pleslides:title:}\c!style \c!color
 
\simpleslidestitlecomponen...
\006>:xml:presentation ...{#1}{date}}]\placeTitle
                                                   \xmltext 
{#1}{content} \pa...
l.214 }

But don't spend time on it, unless it immediately rings a bell, I'll try 
and come up with a simple example tomorrow.

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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 02.01.2012 um 23:25 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz:

> On 01/02/2012 09:44 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> Other than that, the
>>> parameters mechanism appears to have changed, so it baulks at our
>>> simpleslides module which uses this all over the place. I'll have to
>>> make a minimal example later. I keep 2011.11.29 around, for when I need
>>> urgent results...
>> 
>> well, not really changed, but extended ... depends on how you use it ...
>> I'm busy changing all namespaces and renaming low level code .. but
>> regular parameter code should work (unless you use real low level never
>> meant to be used code) ... what is the message?
> 
> Here it is:
> 
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> 
> system          > tex > error on line 214 in file archaik.run: Undefined control sequence ...
> 
> 
> <argument> \??vars
>                   :simpleslides:title:
> \dousestylehashparameter #1#2->\ifcsname #1
>                                           #2\endcsname \expandafter \douses...
> \dostartattributes ...estylehashparameter {#1}{#2}
> \dousecolorhashparameter {...
> \placeTitle ...pleslides:title:}\c!style \c!color
> \simpleslidestitlecomponen...
> \006>:xml:presentation ...{#1}{date}}]\placeTitle
>                                                  \xmltext {#1}{content} \pa...
> l.214 }
> 
> But don't spend time on it, unless it immediately rings a bell, I'll try and come up with a simple example tomorrow.

Hans changed many of the namespaces from short to longer forms and what you did in your simple slides module isn’t good style anymore

simpleslides-s-default.tex:

\def\simpleslidestitlecomponent#1%
  {\simpleslidestitleparameter{\c!before#1}
      \startalignment[\simpleslidestitleparameter{#1\c!align}]
        \doattributes{\??vars:simpleslides:title:}{#1\c!style}{#1\c!color}
          {\getvariable{simpleslides:title}{#1}}
       \stopalignment
    \simpleslidestitleparameter{\c!after#1}}

The best is to replace your \setvariables based setup commands with a \getparameters based variant, for mkiv there are many helper functions in mult-aux.mkiv.

Wolfgang

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta. This one is really beta so don't update if you 
have a critical workflow (or make a copy). Among the changes are:

- page-*      : cleaned up, split and made more efficient (maybe typos)

- strc-itm    : cleaned up (maybe side effects, but it looks ok)

- style/color : low level clean up (which means that some t-* files need 
to be updated in sync)

Of course there are the usual fixes / improvements / new bugs.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Hans,

Thanks for the new beta.
It seems that with the new beta there is a bug with itemize: no numbers show up with \item.

\starttext
\startitemize[n]
\item One
\item Two
\stopitemize
\stoptext

Best regards: OK

On 13 déc. 2011, at 16:38, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a new beta. This one is really beta so don't update if you have a critical workflow (or make a copy). Among the changes are:
> 
> - page-*      : cleaned up, split and made more efficient (maybe typos)
> 
> - strc-itm    : cleaned up (maybe side effects, but it looks ok)
> 
> - style/color : low level clean up (which means that some t-* files need to be updated in sync)
> 
> Of course there are the usual fixes / improvements / new bugs.
> 
> Hans


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On 13-12-2011 21:07, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> Thanks for the new beta.
> It seems that with the new beta there is a bug with itemize: no numbers show up with \item.
>
> \starttext
> \startitemize[n]
> \item One
> \item Two
> \stopitemize
> \stoptext
>
> Best regards: OK

I'll look into it ... \startitem ... \stopitem should be ok.

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Re: beta

[Andreas Harder]

On 14.12.2011, at 00:10, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 13-12-2011 21:07, Otared Kavian wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>> 
>> Thanks for the new beta.
>> It seems that with the new beta there is a bug with itemize: no numbers show up with \item.
>> 
>> \starttext
>> \startitemize[n]
>> \item One
>> \item Two
>> \stopitemize
>> \stoptext
>> 
>> Best regards: OK
> 
> I'll look into it ... \startitem ... \stopitem should be ok.


Hi Hans,

another problem with itemization.

\starttext
  \startitemize[text]
  \item alpha \item beta \item gamma
  \startitem alpha \stopitem
  \startitem beta  \stopitem
  \startitem gamma \stopitem
  \stopitemize
\stoptext


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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 13-12-2011 21:07, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> Thanks for the new beta.
> It seems that with the new beta there is a bug with itemize: no numbers show up with \item.
>
> \starttext
> \startitemize[n]
> \item One
> \item Two
> \stopitemize
> \stoptext

fixed (I had commented a counter definition because I load the module 
runtime for testing)

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

On 14 déc. 2011, at 00:48, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 13-12-2011 21:07, Otared Kavian wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>> 
>> Thanks for the new beta.
>> It seems that with the new beta there is a bug with itemize: no numbers show up with \item.
>> 
>> \starttext
>> \startitemize[n]
>> \item One
>> \item Two
>> \stopitemize
>> \stoptext
> 
> fixed (I had commented a counter definition because I load the module runtime for testing)
> 
> Hans

Hi Hans,

Thanks for the quick fix.
However \startitemize[r] (or any other option) results always with items being numbered 1., 2., 3., …
The behavior does not improve when using \startitem…\stopitem.
Reporting this for ConTeXt version 2011.12.14 00:20.

Best regards: OK
 
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Re: beta

[Romain Diss]

Hi Hans,

Reading the new code (just to see what the clean-up looks like), I saw that a 
lot of "intermediate" macros are now named whith a new scheme : underscore 
separated words, and something like a namespace in the macro name.
So the question (just for curiosity)... Are there any documents which describe 
this new "API" and the recommended way to code in context.

Thanks

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 14-12-2011 10:16, Romain Diss wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> Reading the new code (just to see what the clean-up looks like), I saw that a
> lot of "intermediate" macros are now named whith a new scheme : underscore
> separated words, and something like a namespace in the macro name.
> So the question (just for curiosity)... Are there any documents which describe
> this new "API" and the recommended way to code in context.

Not yet. Among the reasons for the _ was that we wanted module users to 
use better namespace handling, so best also do it in the core code. 
another was that _ is no longer something special outside math in context.

You need to keep in mind that much code originates was written in the 
time that (1) hash space was limited, (2) memory was lower, (3) 
processors were less powerful. So, the rewrite is a new compromise of 
such constraints. In any case we can now write more readable code which 
also happens to be faster while in the past there were constraints 
preventing this.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

Hi all, Hans,

something is not working with our simpleslides module and the latest 
beta. The following example (from our documentation) is not quite 
minimal, but it shows the problem:

\unprotect
\def\setupTitle%
   {\dosingleargument\dosetupTitle}

\def\dosetupTitle%
   {\setvariables[simpleslides:title]}

\def\simpleslidestitleparameter%
   {\getvariable{simpleslides:title}}

\def\simpleslidestitlecomponent#1%
   {\doattributes{\??vars:simpleslides:title:}{#1\c!style}{#1\c!color}
           {\getvariable{simpleslides:title}{#1}}}

\define\placeTitle
   {\dostartattributes{\??vars:simpleslides:title:}\c!style\c!color
     \simpleslidestitlecomponent\c!title
    \dostopattributes}

\protect

\setupTitle
   [ title={Title of the presentation},
   ]

\starttext
\placeTitle

Write whatever you want.

Continue writing.

\stoptext

Instead of picking up and typesetting the content of the variable 
"title," it typesets the word "title." Beta from Nov. 29 works normally. 
Let me know if you can use this example or if you need something else 
(Aditya is away at a conference, he may be able to come up with a better 
example).

All best

Thomas
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 15-12-2011 23:24, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> Hi all, Hans,
>
> something is not working with our simpleslides module and the latest
> beta. The following example (from our documentation) is not quite
> minimal, but it shows the problem:
>
> \unprotect
> \def\setupTitle%
> {\dosingleargument\dosetupTitle}
>
> \def\dosetupTitle%
> {\setvariables[simpleslides:title]}
>
> \def\simpleslidestitleparameter%
> {\getvariable{simpleslides:title}}
>
> \def\simpleslidestitlecomponent#1%
> {\doattributes{\??vars:simpleslides:title:}{#1\c!style}{#1\c!color}
> {\getvariable{simpleslides:title}{#1}}}
>
> \define\placeTitle
> {\dostartattributes{\??vars:simpleslides:title:}\c!style\c!color
> \simpleslidestitlecomponent\c!title
> \dostopattributes}
>
> \protect
>
> \setupTitle
> [ title={Title of the presentation},
> ]
>
> \starttext
> \placeTitle
>
> Write whatever you want.
>
> Continue writing.
>
> \stoptext
>
> Instead of picking up and typesetting the content of the variable
> "title," it typesets the word "title." Beta from Nov. 29 works normally.
> Let me know if you can use this example or if you need something else
> (Aditya is away at a conference, he may be able to come up with a better
> example).

fixed in next beta

Hans

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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On 12/15/11 23:41, Hans Hagen wrote:
> fixed in next beta
>
> Hans

Thanks a lot, Hans!

Thomas
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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta. The usual fixes (as reported to/suggested on this 
list) and an updated unit mechanism. I'll also upload the new (but yet 
incomplete) units manual.

http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/units-mkiv.pdf

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Re: beta

[Mikael P. Sundqvist]

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta. The usual fixes (as reported to/suggested on this
> list) and an updated unit mechanism. I'll also upload the new (but yet
> incomplete) units manual.
>
> http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/units-mkiv.pdf
>
> Hans
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Dear Hans,

is there any chance that the problem with too much space in math
described in [1] will be fixed soon? I tried the latest beta, but it
seems that it is not yet fixed.

[1] http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20111128.202041.257f9618.en.html

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 30-11-2011 06:36, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:

> is there any chance that the problem with too much space in math
> described in [1] will be fixed soon? I tried the latest beta, but it
> seems that it is not yet fixed.

i wonder when it first showed up

Hans

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 30-11-2011 06:36, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:

> is there any chance that the problem with too much space in math
> described in [1] will be fixed soon? I tried the latest beta, but it
> seems that it is not yet fixed.

in char-def.lua, make the mathclass 'ord':

  {
   adobename="slash",
   ....
   mathclass="ord",
   ....
  },

Concerning the integral .. it has to do with the engine that need to be 
forced into otf mode for virtual lm which is not yet possible c.q. I 
need to discuss it with Taco.

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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 30-11-2011 06:36, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
>
>> is there any chance that the problem with too much space in math
>> described in [1] will be fixed soon? I tried the latest beta, but it
>> seems that it is not yet fixed.
>
> in char-def.lua, make the mathclass 'ord':
>
> {
>  adobename="slash",
>  ....
>  mathclass="ord",
>  ....
> },

Thanks to 
http://repo.or.cz/w/context.git/blame/refs/heads/origin:/tex/context/base/char-def.lua 
(warning, takes a long time to load), this was changed on 2011-06-08, 
along with these changes
http://repo.or.cz/w/context.git/blobdiff/b17f22aa285224dcf5b1dbccd795bc73b9a16426..e5fe861660d5cf60cfeb67f7e57f659b309e9613:/tex/context/base/char-def.lua

Actually, the change from "rceil" -> "rceiling" (and same for "lceil") 
will break backward compatibility. Can we have both the macros:

mathspec = {
   {
     class="close",
     name = "rceil",
   },
   {
     class="close",
     name="rceiling",
   }
},

Aditya

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 3-12-2011 00:47, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

> Thanks to
> http://repo.or.cz/w/context.git/blame/refs/heads/origin:/tex/context/base/char-def.lua
> (warning, takes a long time to load), this was changed on 2011-06-08,
> along with these changes
> http://repo.or.cz/w/context.git/blobdiff/b17f22aa285224dcf5b1dbccd795bc73b9a16426..e5fe861660d5cf60cfeb67f7e57f659b309e9613:/tex/context/base/char-def.lua

indeed way too slow to load

> Actually, the change from "rceil" -> "rceiling" (and same for "lceil")
> will break backward compatibility. Can we have both the macros:
>
> mathspec = {
> {
> class="close",
> name = "rceil",
> },
> {
> class="close",
> name="rceiling",
> }
> },

added

Hans

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Re: beta

[Ian Lawrence]

New units are a great improvement. Thanks.
Ian
On 29 Nov 2011, at 17:57, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a new beta. The usual fixes (as reported to/suggested on this list) and an updated unit mechanism. I'll also upload the new (but yet incomplete) units manual.
> 
> http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/units-mkiv.pdf
> 
> Hans
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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

Todays beta ...

- some improvements/more options to xtables (see manual)

-- experimental degrees in units:

\starttext

\startlines
\unit{10° celsius}
\unit{10 deg celsius}
\unit{10 degree celsius}
\unit{10 degrees celsius}
\stoplines

\stoptext

-- speedup of alignment settings (nice for bTABLE etc)

-- a few fixes

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta, mostly for testing the xml export and Alan's 
figure list issue. I cleaned up some of the float code (removing some 
related mkii code in the process) but more will follow. I might have 
introduced some issues there.

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Re: beta

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On 08.11.2011, at 15:28, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
> […] I might have introduced some issues there.

Hi Hans!

\setupbackend[export=yes]
\setupcaptions[number=no]

\starttext
  \startplacefigure[title={Some Caption},location=right] % OK with "here"
    \externalfigure[dummy]
  \stopplacefigure 
\stoptext

exports to:

  <float detail="figure" location='aut:1'>
    <floatcontent>
      <image name="dummy" id='image-1' width='4.072cm' height='3.054cm'>
      </image>
    </floatcontent>
    Some Caption
  </float>

The floatcaption- and floattext-tags are missing.


Regards
	Andreas

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On 8-11-2011 16:58, Andreas Harder wrote:

> The floatcaption- and floattext-tags are missing.

added in next beta (same for empty floats)


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Re: beta

[Andreas Harder]

On 08.11.2011, at 18:31, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 8-11-2011 16:58, Andreas Harder wrote:
> 
>> The floatcaption- and floattext-tags are missing.
> 
> added in next beta (same for empty floats)

Thanks, it works!

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta. The biggest new thing is that there is yet 
another table mechanism: extreme tables. There is a manual too:

http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/xtables-mkiv.pdf

It says in the introduction:

 >> This is a short introduction to yet another table mechanism built
in \CONTEXT. It is a variant of the so called natural tables but
it has a different configuration. Also, the implementation is
completely different. The reason for writing it is that in one of
our projects we had to write styles for documents that had tables
spanning 30 or more pages and apart from memory constraints this
is quite a challenge for the other mechanisms, if only because
splitting them into successive floats is not possible due to
limitations of \TEX. The extreme table mechanism can handle pretty
large tables and split them too. As each cell is basically a \type
{\framed} and as we need to do two passes over the table, this
mechanism is not the fastest but it is some two times faster than
the natural tables mechanism, and in most cases can be used
instead. <<

There will probably a few additions but it's already pretty complete.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On 10/28/11 16:24, Hans Hagen wrote:
> I uploaded a new beta. The biggest new thing is that there is yet
> another table mechanism: extreme tables.

Extreme tables - be careful, leave yourself some room for the next 
iteration; you might run out of superlatives. What will be next: 
supermongous tables? monster tables? awesome tables? :-)

I just had a look at the manual, and this looks very very nice - clean 
syntax, and might be easier to map from xml than the other models. 
Thanks Hans, I'm looking forward to playing with those!

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 28-10-2011 16:46, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On 10/28/11 16:24, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> I uploaded a new beta. The biggest new thing is that there is yet
>> another table mechanism: extreme tables.
>
> Extreme tables - be careful, leave yourself some room for the next
> iteration; you might run out of superlatives. What will be next:
> supermongous tables? monster tables? awesome tables? :-)

Well, I needed a temporary name for the commands so I ended up with 
\startxtable and didn't want to change the namespace and macro names etc 
so the x became eXtreme. A next table mechanism will use a different 
character so then I have to make up something, like \startwtable which 
will then become 'weird tables' or so.

Maybe I'll make you a

\starttabularasa
   ...
\stoptabularasa

... the ultimate minimalistic table mechanism, implemented as ...

\unexpanded\def\starttabularasa#1\stoptabularasa{}
\let\stoptabularasa\relax

... which is then also the smallest module.

Concerning the xml ... I'll probably redo cals tables in this mechanism 
and maybe even provide a bTABLE -> xtable mapping (btu I'm not sure 
about that one).

Hans

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Re: beta

[luigi scarso]

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 28-10-2011 16:46, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>>
>> On 10/28/11 16:24, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>
>>> I uploaded a new beta. The biggest new thing is that there is yet
>>> another table mechanism: extreme tables.
>>
>> Extreme tables - be careful, leave yourself some room for the next
>> iteration; you might run out of superlatives. What will be next:
>> supermongous tables? monster tables? awesome tables? :-)
>
> Well, I needed a temporary name for the commands so I ended up with
> \startxtable and didn't want to change the namespace and macro names etc so
> the x became eXtreme. A next table mechanism will use a different character
> so then I have to make up something, like \startwtable which will then
> become 'weird tables' or so.
You can use context user names, i.e.
\startwtable is
Willi's table


ok, a dirty trick to promote the group.


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Re: beta

[Leo Razoumov]

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:24, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta. The biggest new thing is that there is yet another
> table mechanism: extreme tables. There is a manual too:
>
> http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/xtables-mkiv.pdf
>

It would help the navigation if the manual has a hyperlinked table-of-contents.
For some reason it does not.

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

A new beta has been uploaded. Nothing new apart from some experimental 
code and a few bugfixes. I also uploaded

http://www.pragma-ade.com/preliminaries/hybrid-italics.pdf

Files in that path will come and go.

Hans

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta. There are a few new things and some changes:

- The flow chart module has been rewritten for mkiv and cf Wili it does 
a decent job so I've replaced the old one. This is the one that can be 
extended (discussed at the context conference).

- I'm rewriting stepcharts (something I need myself) but that's work in 
progress. Here the functionality will change a bit (no problem as I 
never noticed any other usage). The manual will also be updated.

== There is an experimental new s-fnt-35.mkiv module that can be used as:

\usemodule[fnt-35,art-01]

\setupbodyfont
   [cambria]

\starttext
     \ctxlua{moduledata.fonts.show_a_lot("Cambria")}
\stoptext

It probably needs to be improved. Users are welcome to submit additional 
(language related) sample alphabets etc. It might also become an option 
for mtx-fonts.lua

== There has been a change in storing positional info in the tuc file. 
No big deal, just another format.

== There has been a fix in otf contextual stuff ... for Idris (so that 
he can finish the context book sooner).

== There are some new commands: \startdocument and \stopdocument. Copied 
from mag-1101:

\starttyping
\startdocument[settings]
     structured content
\stopdocument
\stoptyping

The settings are key|/|value pairs and the values can be retrieved
using:

\starttyping
\documentvariable{key}
\stoptyping

You can set \type {before} and \type {after} parameters and by default
these are set up as follows:

\starttyping
\setvariables
   [document]
   [before=\directsetup{document:start},
    after=\directsetup{document:stop}]
\stoptyping

You can for instance define these setups to generate a title page
(using document variables) and a colophon page. In the future more
functionality might be added.

== Yet another new feature is automatic italic correction. There will be 
an article about it (first version ready), maybe in the conference 
proceedings as it's a follow up on the conference. Quick howto:

\definefontfeature[default][default][itlc=yes]

It is enabled with:

\setupitaliccorrection[always] % or 'text' or 'none'

Or (bit more efficient):

\setupitaliccorrection[always,global]

or even:

\definefontfeature[default][default][itlc=yes,notextitalics=yes]

to get rid of \/ too. (we might opt for \/ being just /). Thomas and I 
will play with additional functonality (range support for fonts that 
have somewhat italic properties like greek).

== Of course there are a couple of patches and for sure some new bugs 
(or missing files).

Hans

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta. Apart from some fixes/additions the most important 
difference is that the scite support files have been replaced: instead 
of the built-in lexer we now use the lpeg based one. There is a readme 
file in the context/data/scite subpath. Those using it need a recent 
version of scite (I use 2.28). The lexers are working ok but might be 
improved in due time.

Hans

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta:

- Project structure related files are now dealt with in lua: it's mostly 
compatible but somewhat more strict (proper push and pop). In the log 
file the used structure is summarized.

- All writing from lua to tex is now under control of the cld 
infrastructure. This means that logging is more complete. The speed 
penalty is neglectable and in some places faster.

- There are a couple of fixes related to marks.

- There are a couple of fixes (thanks to Wolfgang, who checks all 
commands as part of the user interface (setups) documentation).

- In \asciimode, %% now can be used as traditional tex comment starter. 
Also, modules and environments are loaded under the normal catcode regime.

- Typing gets frontstripped with the number of spaces in front of 
\stoptyping so that one can have nicely formatted input like:

\startitemize
   \startitem test

   \starttyping
   test
   \stoptyping

   \stopitem
\stopitemize

- Entities in xml mode have a slightly different roundtrip treatment now 
and hopefully Thomas S as well as Hans vd M files still work ok.

- Unicode math variants (supported by xits) are supported:

\mathematics {
   \utfchar{"2229} =
   \utfchar{"2229}\utfchar{"FE00} =
   \vsone{\utfchar{"2229}}
}

- Defining commands at the lua end now also handles arg only cases and 
has better tracing.

- Some other other things, like \startlayout[page] ... \stoplayout and 
whatever I forgot.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Hans van der Meer]

On 13 jul 2011, at 22:50, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a beta:
> 
> 

> - Entities in xml mode have a slightly different roundtrip treatment now and hopefully Thomas S as well as Hans vd M files still work ok.
> 

No, there must be some error in the new code, I guess, because xmlunprivatized is nil.


HVDM-XML        > common xml macros module $Id:: hvdm-xml.tex 112 2011-07-0##$
))
! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/lxml-tex.lua:535: attempt to call upvalue 'xmlunprivatized' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
	...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/lxml-tex.lua:535: in function '@tx@'
	...ers/hans/Library/texmf/tex/context/base/lxml-tab.lua:895: in function '@dc@'
	...ers/hans/Library/texmf/tex/context/base/lxml-tab.lua:933: in function 'serialize'
	...ers/hans/Library/texmf/tex/context/base/lxml-tab.lua:882: in function <...ers/hans/Library/texmf/tex/context/base/lxml-tab.lua:881>
	...ers/hans/Library/texmf/tex/context/base/lxml-tab.lua:914: in function 'xmlserialize'
	...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/lxml-tex.lua:639: in function 'main'
	<main ctx instance>:1: in main chunk.

system          > tex > error on line 23 in file dvd.tex: LuaTeX error  ...

13     \quittypescriptscanning
14     \stoptypescript
15     \usetypescript[typeface]\setupbodyfont[typeface,11pt]\rm
16     
17     \usemodule[hvdm-dvd]	% xml conversions

.........

\ctxlxml #1->\directlua \zerocount {lxml.#1}
                                            
\doxmlprocess ...ml:process}} {\xmlsetup {#3}{#5}}
                                                  \endgroup 
l.23 ...processfile{dvd}{\DATALOCATION data.xml}{}
                                                  	% start at the dvd root node
? 


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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 14-7-2011 9:19, Hans van der Meer wrote:
>
> On 13 jul 2011, at 22:50, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I uploaded a beta:
>>
>>
>
>> - Entities in xml mode have a slightly different roundtrip treatment now and hopefully Thomas S as well as Hans vd M files still work ok.
>>
>
> No, there must be some error in the new code, I guess, because xmlunprivatized is nil.

grepping unprivatized on the base path gives me hits that look ok

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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On 07/13/2011 10:50 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a beta:
>
> - Project structure related files are now dealt with in lua: it's mostly
> compatible but somewhat more strict (proper push and pop). In the log
> file the used structure is summarized.
>
> - All writing from lua to tex is now under control of the cld
> infrastructure. This means that logging is more complete. The speed
> penalty is neglectable and in some places faster.
>
> - There are a couple of fixes related to marks.
>
> - There are a couple of fixes (thanks to Wolfgang, who checks all
> commands as part of the user interface (setups) documentation).
>
> - In \asciimode, %% now can be used as traditional tex comment starter.
> Also, modules and environments are loaded under the normal catcode regime.
>
> - Typing gets frontstripped with the number of spaces in front of
> \stoptyping so that one can have nicely formatted input like:
>
> \startitemize
> \startitem test
>
> \starttyping
> test
> \stoptyping
>
> \stopitem
> \stopitemize
>
> - Entities in xml mode have a slightly different roundtrip treatment now
> and hopefully Thomas S as well as Hans vd M files still work ok.
>
> - Unicode math variants (supported by xits) are supported:
>
> \mathematics {
> \utfchar{"2229} =
> \utfchar{"2229}\utfchar{"FE00} =
> \vsone{\utfchar{"2229}}
> }
>
> - Defining commands at the lua end now also handles arg only cases and
> has better tracing.
>
> - Some other other things, like \startlayout[page] ... \stoplayout and
> whatever I forgot.
>
> Hans

Hi Hans,

my xml files seem to run OK (I just did a few experiments). However, 
there is a problem with the new project structure code. My book project 
is set up like a proper ConTeXt project, and with the new version, 
context has lost the ability to compile single components.

context mycomponent

will compile the entire document, and then append the single mycomponent 
at the end of the document. That can't be right...

Thomas
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 14-7-2011 4:47, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> will compile the entire document, and then append the single mycomponent
> at the end of the document. That can't be right...

Can you check with:

\enabletrackers[system-jobfiles]

and see what gets reported? In the past there was no real push/pop of 
states, although the meaning of (say) \component depended in the current 
\start*; now we're bit more restrictive. So, the question is: what is 
missing.

(also see http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-mag-13.htm)

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Re: beta

[Andreas Harder]

Am 14.07.2011 um 17:24 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> (also see http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-mag-13.htm)

So it's recommended to load the \environment before the \start- \stopcomponent and \start- \stopproduct?

So far I've done it vice versa, but this changes my page break.

Greeting
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 14-7-2011 6:07, Andreas Harder wrote:
> Am 14.07.2011 um 17:24 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>
>> (also see http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-mag-13.htm)
>
> So it's recommended to load the \environment before the \start- \stopcomponent and \start- \stopproduct?

you can do both ... the advantage of doing it before is that when you 
set the bodyfont it will avoid loading the defaults first (which is 
triggered by \startcomponent, \startproduct and \starttext if no 
bodyfont has been defined) which makes the run slightly faster

> So far I've done it vice versa, but this changes my page break.

then there is something wrong with your style

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Re: beta

[Andreas Harder]

Am 15.07.2011 um 13:33 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> On 15-7-2011 1:00, Andreas Harder wrote:
> 
>> The problematic part was \setupblank[medium]. Would it be possible to make this setup work also before \start[component | prodoct | text]?
> 
> Well, in that case you need to initialize the bodyfont beforehand. Normally it should sync itself so there must be some interference somewhere.

If I'm getting you right, this should work?

\startbuffer
  \setupbodyfont[modern]
  \setupblank[medium]
  \showframe
\stopbuffer

  \getbuffer % \setupblank[medium] not applied
\starttext
% \getbuffer % \setupblank[medium] applied

  \dorecurse{17}{\dorecurse{35}{test }\par\blank}
\stoptext


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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 15.07.2011 um 13:43 schrieb Andreas Harder:

> If I'm getting you right, this should work?
> 
> \startbuffer
>  \setupbodyfont[modern]
>  \setupblank[medium]
>  \showframe
> \stopbuffer
> 
>  \getbuffer % \setupblank[medium] not applied
> \starttext
> % \getbuffer % \setupblank[medium] applied
> 
>  \dorecurse{17}{\dorecurse{35}{test }\par\blank}
> \stoptext

No, there are a few settings which can only be set *after* \starttext because
ConTeXt resets them at this point.

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Re: beta

[Andreas Harder]

Am 15.07.2011 um 14:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

> 
> Am 15.07.2011 um 13:43 schrieb Andreas Harder:
> 
>> If I'm getting you right, this should work?
>> 
>> \startbuffer
>> \setupbodyfont[modern]
>> \setupblank[medium]
>> \showframe
>> \stopbuffer
>> 
>> \getbuffer % \setupblank[medium] not applied
>> \starttext
>> % \getbuffer % \setupblank[medium] applied
>> 
>> \dorecurse{17}{\dorecurse{35}{test }\par\blank}
>> \stoptext
> 
> No, there are a few settings which can only be set *after* \starttext because
> ConTeXt resets them at this point.

Okay, so I will stick to that. Thanks!

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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:

> - Typing gets frontstripped with the number of spaces in front of \stoptyping 
> so that one can have nicely formatted input like:

Great. Recently I had added a similar functionality to t-vim using the key 
'trimspaces=on|off'. I'll change that to 'frontstripped' to be consistent 
with the core.

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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> - Typing gets frontstripped with the number of spaces in front of 
>> \stoptyping so that one can have nicely formatted input like:
>
> Great. Recently I had added a similar functionality to t-vim using the key 
> 'trimspaces=on|off'. I'll change that to 'frontstripped' to be consistent 
> with the core.

There is no option frontstripped. buff-ver does have a 'strip' option, but 
looking at the corresponding lua code, I don't think that it can work:

local function filter(lines,settings)
     local strip = settings.strip
     if strip == v_yes then
         lines = realign(lines,strip)
     end
     ...
end

This means that when realign is called, strip = v_yes. But, realign 
function is defined as


local function realign(lines,forced_n) -- no, auto, <number>
     forced_n = (forced_n == v_auto and huge) or tonumber(forced_n)
     if forced_n then
      ...
     end
     return lines
end

Since, forced_n is always true when realign is called, the original lines 
are not changed.

Hans, did you mean

   if not (strip == v_no) then

in the filter function?

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 18-7-2011 10:31, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> - Typing gets frontstripped with the number of spaces in front of
>>> \stoptyping so that one can have nicely formatted input like:
>>
>> Great. Recently I had added a similar functionality to t-vim using the
>> key 'trimspaces=on|off'. I'll change that to 'frontstripped' to be
>> consistent with the core.
>
> There is no option frontstripped. buff-ver does have a 'strip' option,
> but looking at the corresponding lua code, I don't think that it can work:
>
> local function filter(lines,settings)
> local strip = settings.strip
> if strip == v_yes then
> lines = realign(lines,strip)
> end
> ...
> end
>
> This means that when realign is called, strip = v_yes. But, realign
> function is defined as
>
>
> local function realign(lines,forced_n) -- no, auto, <number>
> forced_n = (forced_n == v_auto and huge) or tonumber(forced_n)
> if forced_n then
> ...
> end
> return lines
> end
>
> Since, forced_n is always true when realign is called, the original
> lines are not changed.
>
> Hans, did you mean
>
> if not (strip == v_no) then
>
> in the filter function?

I cleaned up that bit. So now we have:

\starttext

test (automatic based on spaces before \stop...):

     \starttyping
     test test
          test test
     test test
     \stoptyping

test (key controlled):

\starttyping[strip=yes]
    test test
         test test
    test test
\stoptyping

test

\startbuffer[x]
    test test
         test test
    test test
\stopbuffer

\typebuffer[x][strip=yes]

test

\typebuffer[x][strip=8]

test

\stoptext




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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta. There are some changes in the math font handling:

(1) bold:

% \setupbodyfont[lucidanova]
% \setupbodyfont[palatino]
% \setupbodyfont[libertine]
% \setupbodyfont[xits]

\setuphead[chapter][style=\bfd]

\starttext

\chapter{Test \m{a=b^{2c}} and \m{\sqrt{x^2}}}

{     Test \m{a=b^{2c}} and \m{\sqrt{x^2}}\par}
{\bf  Test \m{a=b^{2c}} and \m{\sqrt{x^2}}\par}
{\tfd Test \m{a=b^{2c}} and \m{\sqrt{x^2}}\par}
{\bfd Test \m{a=b^{2c}} and \m{\sqrt{x^2}}\par}
{\bfd Test \m{a=b^{2c}} and \m{\sqrt{x^2}}\par}

\stoptext

When a font has bold (like the upcoming lucida) you get full autobold 
support, otherwise you get substitution bold, which works ok for most 
cases.

(2) bidi

% example from the xits suite

% \setupbodyfont[xits]

\setupbodyfont[xitsbidi]

\setupalign[r2l]

\starttext

\setupmathematics[align=r2l]

\startformula
\sqrt{ف^2\over 4ب} \eqno(1)
\stopformula

\setupmathematics[align=l2r]

\startformula
\sqrt{x^2\over 4x} \eqno(1)
\stopformula

\setupmathematics[align=r2l]

\startformula
\sum^\infty_{س=0} س^2 \eqno(2)
\stopformula

\startformula
\left(\root{2} \of{155}\right)
\stopformula

\startformula
\left[\int^{55}_{123} 666^3\right]
\qquad\textstyle\left[\int^{55}_{123} 666^3\right]
\stopformula

\startformula
\left\{\sum^{55}_{123} 666^3\right\}
\stopformula

\startformula
\sqrt{\sqrt{\sqrt{\sqrt{\sqrt{\sqrt{\sqrt{\sqrt{\sqrt{\sqrt{55}}}}}}}}}}
\stopformula

\startformula
5 < 6 > 4
\stopformula

\startformula
5 \leq 6 \geq 7
\stopformula

\stoptext

This works for xits as it comes with the right shapes. Currently bidi 
must be loaded explicitly because more is loaded but that might become 
automatic at some point when r2l document alignment kicks in.

(3) Math following \bfa etc is somewhat faster now.

Hans

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

todays beta will report all loaded files in the log files, inclduign 
lookup methods

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Hans,

Updating through the minimals to the latest beta (ConTeXt version 2011.06.25 01:48) presents a few problems:

1) mkii does not work anymore: typesetting

	\starttext
		Hello Hans!
	\stoptext

results in 
	sh: /context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/ruby/texexec.rb: Permission denied

2) There is now a problem with \footnote: for instance with mkiv

\starttext 
\chapter{Testing a chapter\footnote{Actually for testing footnotes in a chapter header\dots}}

\section{Testing a section\footnote{Actually for testing footnotes in a section header\dots}} 
\stoptext

does not show the footnote numbers in the footnotes area.

3) In mathmode with some fonts some arrows are not showed: example with mkiv

\setupbodyfont[libertine,12pt]
\starttext
 \startformula L : E \longrightarrow F, \qquad x \mapsto f(x), 
\stopformula
\stoptext

While talking about maths and mkiv, the issue I reported about bounds of integrals is still present.

Best regards: OK

On 24 juin 2011, at 13:28, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> todays beta will report all loaded files in the log files, inclduign lookup methods
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 25-6-2011 5:49, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> Updating through the minimals to the latest beta (ConTeXt version 2011.06.25 01:48) presents a few problems:
>
> 1) mkii does not work anymore: typesetting
>
> 	\starttext
> 		Hello Hans!
> 	\stoptext
>
> results in
> 	sh: /context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/ruby/texexec.rb: Permission denied

ah, ok, a side effect of a quoting patch (for tl) ... i'll fix it

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 25-6-2011 5:49, Otared Kavian wrote:

> 2) There is now a problem with \footnote: for instance with mkiv
>
> \starttext
> \chapter{Testing a chapter\footnote{Actually for testing footnotes in a chapter header\dots}}
>
> \section{Testing a section\footnote{Actually for testing footnotes in a section header\dots}}
> \stoptext
>
> does not show the footnote numbers in the footnotes area.

You need to say:

\automigrateinserts

\starttext

     \chapter{Testing a chapter\footnote{Actually for testing footnotes 
in a chapter header\dots}}

     \footnote{Actually for testing footnotes in a chapter header\dots}

     \section{Testing a section\footnote{Actually for testing footnotes 
in a section header\dots}}

     \footnote{Actually for testing footnotes in a section header\dots}

\stoptext

Maybe it's about time to make it default.

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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 25.06.2011 um 05:49 schrieb Otared Kavian:

> 2) There is now a problem with \footnote: for instance with mkiv
> 
> \starttext 
> \chapter{Testing a chapter\footnote{Actually for testing footnotes in a chapter header\dots}}
> 
> \section{Testing a section\footnote{Actually for testing footnotes in a section header\dots}} 
> \stoptext
> 
> does not show the footnote numbers in the footnotes area.

Add \automigrateinserts at the begin of your document.

Wolfgang

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 25-6-2011 5:49, Otared Kavian wrote:

> 3) In mathmode with some fonts some arrows are not showed: example with mkiv
>
> \setupbodyfont[libertine,12pt]
> \starttext
>   \startformula L : E \longrightarrow F, \qquad x \mapsto f(x),
> \stopformula
> \stoptext

This is a side effect of some missing glyphs in lmmath.otf which is what 
we nowadays use when no design sizes are expected (we only use virtual 
lm math when we use lm fonts with design sizes.)

You can add this at the top of your document to force the virtual lm fonts:

\starttypescript [math] [modern,latin-modern,default]
     \definefontsynonym[MathRoman][LMMath10-Regular@lmroman10-math]
     \definefontsynonym[MathBold] [LMMath10-Bold@lmroman10-boldmath]
\stoptypescript

The lm math project team is aware of this and there will be a couple of 
fixed after the weekend. Keep testing as we need to know what other 
aspects are missing.

Hans

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Hi,

I uploaded a new beta.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Li Yanrui (李延瑞)]

2011/6/15 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta.
>

Hi Hans,

I made a patch for luatex-fonts-enc.lua in this beta, which helps to
generate luatex plain format for CJK fonts processing.

--- luatex-fonts-enc.lua	2011-03-25 16:54:08.000000000 +0800
+++ luatex-fonts-enc-hack.lua	2011-06-15 19:16:59.000000000 +0800
@@ -18,8 +18,8 @@
 setmetatable(fonts.encodings.agl, { __index = function(t,k)
     if k == "unicodes" then
         texio.write(" <loading (extended) adobe glyph list>")
-        local unicodes = dofile(resolvers.findfile("font-agl.lua"))
-        fonts.encodings.agl = { unicodes = unicodes }
+	dofile(resolvers.findfile("font-agl.lua"))
+        local unicodes = fonts.encodings.agl.unicodes
         return unicodes
     else
         return nil


-- 
Best regards,

Li Yanrui (李延瑞)
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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

On 15 juin 2011, at 11:57, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a new beta.
> 
> Hans

Hi Hans,

At the cost of being ridiculous once more, I would report that the following does not work anymore with the latest beta (ConTeXt  ver: 2011.06.15 11:49 MKIV):

\usemodule[dimensions]
\starttext
$10\su{km/h}$
\stoptext

This is taken from your example, which worked fine two days ago…

Best regards: OK
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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 15.06.2011 um 14:25 schrieb Otared Kavian:

> At the cost of being ridiculous once more, I would report that the following does not work anymore with the latest beta (ConTeXt  ver: 2011.06.15 11:49 MKIV):
> 
> \usemodule[dimensions]
> \starttext
> $10\su{km/h}$
> \stoptext
> 
> This is taken from your example, which worked fine two days ago…

The code moved to the core and name of the command changed.

\starttext
\unit{10 km/h}
\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

On 15 juin 2011, at 15:02, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> 
> The code moved to the core and name of the command changed.
> 
> \starttext
> \unit{10 km/h}
> \stoptext
> 
> Wolfgang
> 

Thanks Wolfgang…
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Hi,

New beta. One fix and \unit in the core (\digits need testing before I 
enable it and kick ou tthe old code).

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

In the process of extending math export I decided to finish and 
integrate an old experiment with units. Details can change as can 
configuration.

\usemodule[dimensions]
\setupbackend[export=yes]

\starttext

\startlines
$10\su{km/h}$
$\su{10 km/h}$
\su{10 km/h}
10\su{km/h}
10 \su{km/h}
$10 \su{km/h}$
10 \su{KiloMeter/Hour}
10 \su{kilometer/hour}
10 \su{km/h}
10 \su{kilometer per hour}
10 \su{km / h}
10 \su{ km / h }
10 \su{km/ms2}
10 \su{meter per second}
10 \su{cubic meter}
10 \su{cubic meter per second}
10 \su{cubic meter / second}
$10 \su{cubic meter / second}$
30 \su{kilo pascal }
30 \su{kilo pascal square meter / second}
30 \su{kilo pascal square meter / kelvin second}
\su{30 kilo pascal square meter / kelvin second}
$30 \su{kilo pascal square meter / kelvin second }$
30 \su{crap}
30 \su{AC}
$ \frac{10 \su{m/s}}{20 \su{m/s}} $
{\ss 30 \su{kilo pascal square meter / second kelvin}}
\stoplines

\stoptext

I might decide to push it in the core. The su is an abbreviation for 
scientific unit as we already have \unit (which I like more) and \dim is 
also taken. Of course \u would be even nicer but that's a accent 
placement (ok, we could drop all those as we have utf). Using two 
character names is not handy as they look like language switches.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 11.06.2011 um 16:54 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> Hi,
> 
> In the process of extending math export I decided to finish and integrate an old experiment with units. Details can change as can configuration.
> 
> [...]
> 
> I might decide to push it in the core. The su is an abbreviation for scientific unit as we already have \unit (which I like more) and \dim is also taken. Of course \u would be even nicer but that's a accent placement (ok, we could drop all those as we have utf). Using two character names is not handy as they look like language switches.

Nice but i suggest to use \si as name for the command.

What’s still missing is a reimplementation of the \digits macro where you have more control about the decimal and thousand separator and a few more options.

Wolfgang

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Re: beta

[Vedran Miletić]

2011/6/11 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>:
> Nice but i suggest to use \si as name for the command.

+1

>
> What’s still missing is a reimplementation of the \digits macro where you have more control about the decimal and thousand separator and a few more options.

Also +1, it would be cool to have something similar to siunitx[1] in
terms of functionality.

Vedran

[1] http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/siunitx/siunitx.pdf
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 11-6-2011 5:23, Vedran Miletić wrote:

> Also +1, it would be cool to have something similar to siunitx[1] in
> terms of functionality.

I don't know that one but I seldom model from something else anyway (no 
fun and no time to follow all that is around) .. I'd rather improve what 
we have (and the units module has a rather long history in context). 
Also, I want to stay away from too much tex hackery as in mkiv we follow 
a different approach. One thing that I need to add is
cultural elements (present in the units module and needed for 
educational texts etc).

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 11-6-2011 5:12, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 11.06.2011 um 16:54 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In the process of extending math export I decided to finish and integrate an old experiment with units. Details can change as can configuration.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> I might decide to push it in the core. The su is an abbreviation for scientific unit as we already have \unit (which I like more) and \dim is also taken. Of course \u would be even nicer but that's a accent placement (ok, we could drop all those as we have utf). Using two character names is not handy as they look like language switches.
>
> Nice but i suggest to use \si as name for the command.

I don't like that one ... we're not exclusively dealing with si units 
and it's also a language tag.

> What’s still missing is a reimplementation of the \digits macro where you have more control about the decimal and thousand separator and a few more options.

I have a scanner for that as well (needs to be integrated)

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Re: beta

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Am 12.06.2011 um 12:57 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> On 11-6-2011 5:12, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> 
>> Nice but i suggest to use \si as name for the command.
> 
> I don't like that one ... we're not exclusively dealing with si units

What a lame excuse, “si” is easier to remember than “su” and even
though the code isn’t limited to si units this isn’t a good reason
to avoid the name.

> and it's also a language tag.

Not for ConTeXt:

\starttext
\show\si
\stoptext

> \si=undefined. 

Collision between language tags a context commands do exist since
a long time, e.g. \sl or \it.

>> What’s still missing is a reimplementation of the \digits macro where you have more control about the decimal and thousand separator and a few more options.
> 
> I have a scanner for that as well (needs to be integrated)

Yes i know you have it also commented in the source but the input is
too strict and expect something where you can write

  10000.00

and depending on the setup you can get

  - 10.000,00
  - 10\,000.00
  - 10\,000,00
  - ...

as output.

Wolfgang


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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 12-6-2011 9:15, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> What a lame excuse, “si” is easier to remember than “su” and even
> though the code isn’t limited to si units this isn’t a good reason
> to avoid the name.

I don't like \su either but I needed something that related to \unit 
(which is what I prefer) but the problem is that one then cannot us the 
m-units module at the same time. Well, I could save \unit when loading 
it, and one can wonder if they will be used mixed anyway so we might end 
up with \unit. We have a \m (inline math) macro and I'd like a one 
character one for units and digits and these could be \u and \d if we 
can assume that everyone uses utf (we could make them accent commands 
while dealing with bibtex).

>> and it's also a language tag.
>
> Not for ConTeXt:
>
> \starttext
> \show\si
> \stoptext
>
>> \si=undefined.

anyway, afaik si is relates to slovenian

> Collision between language tags a context commands do exist since
> a long time, e.g.
\sl or \it.

which is bad enough (I wonder if we'd have \it as font switch if italian 
had been needed in an earlier stage -)

> Yes i know you have it also commented in the source but the input is
> too strict and expect something where you can write

not that code, it's specific digits code not yet in the distribution

>    10000.00
>
> and depending on the setup you can get
>
>    - 10.000,00
>    - 10\,000.00
>    - 10\,000,00
>    - ...

currently the units code just uses the predefined number scanner (I 
needed a quick hack) but it will get the digits scanner

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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

>>> \si=undefined.
>
> anyway, afaik si is relates to slovenian

No, only to Sinhalese.

SI is just the country code of Slovenia and doesn't interfere at all.

>> Collision between language tags a context commands do exist since
>> a long time, e.g.
>
> \sl or \it.
>
> which is bad enough (I wonder if we'd have \it as font switch if italian had
> been needed in an earlier stage -)

\it for italic is needed by way more people than two-letter code for
switching to Italian.

I prefer to be able to use \sl for slanted than as a switch to
slovenian. I need it approximately two hundred times more often than I
need a language switch. Why would it be any different for Italians and
what is wrong with \language[sl]/\language[it]?

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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 00:27, Mojca Miklavec
<mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> \si=undefined.
>>
>> anyway, afaik si is relates to slovenian
>
> No, only to Sinhalese.

Oh, btw. \su stands for Sundanese, so I strongly suggest not to use it
for units ;)

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 13-6-2011 12:28, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 00:27, Mojca Miklavec
> <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>> \si=undefined.
>>>
>>> anyway, afaik si is relates to slovenian
>>
>> No, only to Sinhalese.

not always ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_codes:_S#.C2.A0Slovenia

> Oh, btw. \su stands for Sundanese, so I strongly suggest not to use it
> for units ;)
>
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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 22:24, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 13-6-2011 12:28, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
>>>>>> \si=undefined.
>>>>
>>>> anyway, afaik si is relates to slovenian
>>>
>>> No, only to Sinhalese.
>
> not always ....
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_codes:_S#.C2.A0Slovenia

No. Always.

This is exactly like saying that "be" should refer to Dutch language,
that "ch" and "si" should refer to Italian and "it" should refer to
German language.

I suggest to switch the language code for Dutch into "be" and call the
format cont-be :)

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Re: beta

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Mojca Miklavec
<mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 22:24, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>> On 13-6-2011 12:28, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> \si=undefined.
>>>>>
>>>>> anyway, afaik si is relates to slovenian
>>>>
>>>> No, only to Sinhalese.
>>
>> not always ....
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_codes:_S#.C2.A0Slovenia
>
> No. Always.
>
> This is exactly like saying that "be" should refer to Dutch language,
> that "ch" and "si" should refer to Italian and "it" should refer to
> German language.
>
> I suggest to switch the language code for Dutch into "be" and call the
> format cont-be :)
why not iso 639-3 ?
http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/iso-639-3_20110525.ta

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Re: beta

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On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:36 AM, luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Mojca Miklavec
> <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 22:24, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>>> On 13-6-2011 12:28, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>> \si=undefined.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> anyway, afaik si is relates to slovenian
>>>>>
>>>>> No, only to Sinhalese.
>>>
>>> not always ....
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_codes:_S#.C2.A0Slovenia
>>
>> No. Always.
>>
>> This is exactly like saying that "be" should refer to Dutch language,
>> that "ch" and "si" should refer to Italian and "it" should refer to
>> German language.
>>
>> I suggest to switch the language code for Dutch into "be" and call the
>> format cont-be :)
> why not iso 639-3 ?
> http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/iso-639-3_20110525.ta
http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/iso-639-3_20110525.tab


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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 14-6-2011 12:06, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> This is exactly like saying that "be" should refer to Dutch language,

you mean flemish (as belgium also has french) .. actually belgians 
always win the language contest so maybe we should switch to be indeed -)

(which makes me wonder, as animation movies can come with dutch and 
flemisch voice over, there must be such significant differences that we 
might consider flemisch pattern files so it might backfire to you)

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Re: beta

[Vnpenguin]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 00:54, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 14-6-2011 12:06, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
>> This is exactly like saying that "be" should refer to Dutch language,
>
> you mean flemish (as belgium also has french) .. actually belgians always
> win the language contest so maybe we should switch to be indeed -)
>

<OFFTOPIC>
Stop to speak about belgium/flemish/french! It's a too sensitive
subject for us here :)
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Re: beta

[Ian Lawrence]

Back on topic...

In starting out we often want to write out the units in full - that is
the words, not the abbreviations.

any chance of implementing these? At the moment I have (crudely, I
suspect) a large number of definitions of the kind

\define\metre{\;{\tf m}}
\define\metrew{\;{\tf metre}}
\define\kilometre{\;{\tf km}}
\define\kilometrew{\;{\tf kilometre}}
\define\millimetre{\;{\tf mm}}
\define\millimetrew{\;{\tf millimetre}}
\define\centimetre{\;{\tf cm}}
\define\centimetrew{\;{\tf centimetre}}

Which is *my way* of getting what I wanted - prior to this upgrade...


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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 8-7-2011 5:27, Ian Lawrence wrote:
> Back on topic...
>
> In starting out we often want to write out the units in full - that is
> the words, not the abbreviations.
>
> any chance of implementing these? At the moment I have (crudely, I
> suspect) a large number of definitions of the kind
>
> \define\metre{\;{\tf m}}
> \define\metrew{\;{\tf metre}}
> \define\kilometre{\;{\tf km}}
> \define\kilometrew{\;{\tf kilometre}}
> \define\millimetre{\;{\tf mm}}
> \define\millimetrew{\;{\tf millimetre}}
> \define\centimetre{\;{\tf cm}}
> \define\centimetrew{\;{\tf centimetre}}
>
> Which is *my way* of getting what I wanted - prior to this upgrade...

we do have \unit {10 km} and \unit {10 kilo meter} etc but currently 
they expand to km

it's no big deal to have the expandable form (slight variation of the 
old units mechanism) but in mkiv it would be

\defineunit[fullunit][...=yes]

and then \fullunit{10 km}

would that work out ok?

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 13-6-2011 12:27, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> what is wrong with \language[sl]/\language[it]?

Or \language[italian] etc. I think it depends on how often one switches 
language. I seldom switch fonts mid-document (using \it etc) as normally 
it is done in an environment.

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

On 12 juin 2011, at 23:47, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 12-6-2011 9:15, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
>> What a lame excuse, “si” is easier to remember than “su” and even
>> though the code isn’t limited to si units this isn’t a good reason
>> to avoid the name.
> 
> I don't like \su either but I needed something that related to \unit (which is what I prefer) but the problem is that one then cannot us the m-units module at the same time. Well, I could save \unit when loading it, and one can wonder if they will be used mixed anyway so we might end up with \unit. We have a \m (inline math) macro and I'd like a one character one for units and digits and these could be \u and \d if we can assume that everyone uses utf (we could make them accent commands while dealing with bibtex).

…so why not \SIunit or \siunit?
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 13-6-2011 7:20, Otared Kavian wrote:

> …so why not \SIunit or \siunit?

for the moment I'll go for just \unit (maybe with \un as abbreviation)

when I'm in the mood I'll make a \siunit : \siunit{1in} will then 
typeset 0.0254 m or so

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Hans,

Just out of curioisity I tested your example, but mkiv stopped with the error:

	! Undefined control sequence.
	system          > tex > error on line 14 in file units-math-export.tex: Undefined control sequence ...
	l.14 $10\su
	           {km/h}$

Probably I am being somewhat dumb… since the module « dimenesions » is not present in the minimals. Has one to define \su somewhere?
I am reporting this upon using ConTeXt  ver: 2011.06.09 12:49 MKIV.

Best regards: OK

On 11 juin 2011, at 16:54, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> In the process of extending math export I decided to finish and integrate an old experiment with units. Details can change as can configuration.
> 
> \usemodule[dimensions]
> \setupbackend[export=yes]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startlines
> $10\su{km/h}$
> $\su{10 km/h}$
> \su{10 km/h}
> 10\su{km/h}
> 10 \su{km/h}
> $10 \su{km/h}$
> 10 \su{KiloMeter/Hour}
> 10 \su{kilometer/hour}
> 10 \su{km/h}
> 10 \su{kilometer per hour}
> 10 \su{km / h}
> 10 \su{ km / h }
> 10 \su{km/ms2}
> 10 \su{meter per second}
> 10 \su{cubic meter}
> 10 \su{cubic meter per second}
> 10 \su{cubic meter / second}
> $10 \su{cubic meter / second}$
> 30 \su{kilo pascal }
> 30 \su{kilo pascal square meter / second}
> 30 \su{kilo pascal square meter / kelvin second}
> \su{30 kilo pascal square meter / kelvin second}
> $30 \su{kilo pascal square meter / kelvin second }$
> 30 \su{crap}
> 30 \su{AC}
> $ \frac{10 \su{m/s}}{20 \su{m/s}} $
> {\ss 30 \su{kilo pascal square meter / second kelvin}}
> \stoplines
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> I might decide to push it in the core. The su is an abbreviation for scientific unit as we already have \unit (which I like more) and \dim is also taken. Of course \u would be even nicer but that's a accent placement (ok, we could drop all those as we have utf). Using two character names is not handy as they look like language switches.
> 
> Hans
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Re: beta

[Marco]

On 2011-06-12 Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:

> Probably I am being somewhat dumb… since the module « dimenesions » is not
> present in the minimals. Has one to define \su somewhere? I am reporting
> this upon using ConTeXt  ver: 2011.06.09 12:49 MKIV.

Read the subject ;)

And give it a shot with 2011.06.11 16:45

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

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On 12 juin 2011, at 09:52, Marco wrote:

> On 2011-06-12 Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Probably I am being somewhat dumb… since the module « dimenesions » is not
>> present in the minimals. Has one to define \su somewhere? I am reporting
>> this upon using ConTeXt  ver: 2011.06.09 12:49 MKIV.
> 
> Read the subject ;)
> 
> And give it a shot with 2011.06.11 16:45
> 
> Marco

Thanks…
I didn't notice the new beta yesterday.
Indeed it works as expected, and it's great!

Best regards: OK

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta. New is:

- enhanced inheritance in layouts
- reimplemented page markings
- \setupmathrendering[fontclass][it=somevariant]
- upgrade of (content) mathml
- prelude to more structured math
- a couple of small fixes
- a few adaptions to texlive integration
- probably some more

Also some time has been spend on the export backend:

- partially rewritten export code (aka epub pet project)
- next iteration of math(ml) export
- metadata and ignored content in export

(Later I will look again in tagged pdf.)

Hans

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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

On 06/08/11 19:45, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a beta. New is:
> 
> - enhanced inheritance in layouts
> - reimplemented page markings
> - \setupmathrendering[fontclass][it=somevariant]
> - upgrade of (content) mathml

That is including an update of  general/manuals/mmlprime.pdf

Best wishes,
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 8-6-2011 8:54, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>
> On 06/08/11 19:45, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I uploaded a beta. New is:
>>
>> - enhanced inheritance in layouts
>> - reimplemented page markings
>> - \setupmathrendering[fontclass][it=somevariant]
>> - upgrade of (content) mathml
>
> That is including an update of  general/manuals/mmlprime.pdf

i uploaded a bit newer (todays)

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Hans and Taco,

Updating the minimals resulted for me in an error message:
	
This is MetaPost, version 1.504 (kpathsea version 6.0.0)

	
! I can't open file `metafun'.

	<*> metafun 
	
	Please type another input file name:

However upon aborting the process with <ctrl>-C, I have an updated 
	ConTeXt version 2011.06.08 19:06,
which works apparently fine under mkiv, but does not work with mkii, even with the simplest
	\starttext
	Hello Hans
	\stoptext
The typesetting stops with the following error message:
	! Font \*7ptmmmrrm*:=rm-lmr7 not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.
	<to be read again> 
 	                  \relax 
	\definefontlocal ...ndcsname \lastfontname \relax 
            	                                      \expandafter \let \expanda...
	
I just report the issue to let you know (I have still the previous version at hand…).

Best regards: OK


	
On 8 juin 2011, at 21:22, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 8-6-2011 8:54, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 06/08/11 19:45, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I uploaded a beta. New is:
>>> 
>>> - enhanced inheritance in layouts
>>> - reimplemented page markings
>>> - \setupmathrendering[fontclass][it=somevariant]
>>> - upgrade of (content) mathml
>> 
>> That is including an update of  general/manuals/mmlprime.pdf
> 
> i uploaded a bit newer (todays)
> 
> Hans
> 
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Re: beta

[Vedran Miletić]

2011/6/8 Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com>:
> Hi Hans and Taco,
>
> Updating the minimals resulted for me in an error message:
>
> This is MetaPost, version 1.504 (kpathsea version 6.0.0)
>
>
> ! I can't open file `metafun'.
>
>        <*> metafun
>
>        Please type another input file name:
>
> However upon aborting the process with <ctrl>-C, I have an updated
>        ConTeXt version 2011.06.08 19:06,
> which works apparently fine under mkiv, but does not work with mkii, even with the simplest
>        \starttext
>        Hello Hans
>        \stoptext
> The typesetting stops with the following error message:
>        ! Font \*7ptmmmrrm*:=rm-lmr7 not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.
>        <to be read again>
>                          \relax
>        \definefontlocal ...ndcsname \lastfontname \relax
>                                                      \expandafter \let \expanda...
>
> I just report the issue to let you know (I have still the previous version at hand…).
>
> Best regards: OK

Same here.

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 8-6-2011 11:50, Vedran Miletić wrote:

>> I just report the issue to let you know (I have still the previous version at hand…).

A side effect of a change in cnf files (related to tex live) ... I'll 
have a look at it. For the moment generate the formats manually.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 8-6-2011 11:43, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi Hans and Taco,
>
> Updating the minimals resulted for me in an error message:
> 	
> This is MetaPost, version 1.504 (kpathsea version 6.0.0)
>
> 	
> ! I can't open file `metafun'.

can you check again?

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Re: beta

[Jelle Huisman]

On 08/06/11 19:21, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 8-6-2011 11:43, Otared Kavian wrote:
>> Hi Hans and Taco,
>>
>> Updating the minimals resulted for me in an error message:
>>     
>> This is MetaPost, version 1.504 (kpathsea version 6.0.0)
>>
>>     
>> ! I can't open file `metafun'.
> 
> can you check again?


The newest version fixes the problem for me.

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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

Hi,

here is another problem with the latest beta - this used to work, but maybe Hans has developed a different mechanism for it?

\startbuffer[test]
<a>Hello&thinspace;World</a>
\stopbuffer 

\startxmlsetups xml:testsetups
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{a}{xml:*}
\stopxmlsetups

\xmlregistersetup{xml:testsetups}

\startxmlsetups xml:a
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups

\xmlsetentity{thinspace}{\,}

\starttext
\xmlprocessbuffer{main}{test}{}
\stoptext 

looks like something is going wrong with the catcodes in translating the xml, the \, is written to the output instead of processed. 

All best

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 9-6-2011 10:21, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> here is another problem with the latest beta - this used to work, but maybe Hans has developed a different mechanism for it?
>
> \startbuffer[test]
> <a>Hello&thinspace;World</a>
> \stopbuffer
>
> \startxmlsetups xml:testsetups
> \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{a}{xml:*}
> \stopxmlsetups
>
> \xmlregistersetup{xml:testsetups}
>
> \startxmlsetups xml:a
> \xmlflush{#1}
> \stopxmlsetups
>
> \xmlsetentity{thinspace}{\,}
>
> \starttext
> \xmlprocessbuffer{main}{test}{}
> \stoptext
>
> looks like something is going wrong with the catcodes in translating the xml, the \, is written to the output instead of processed.

Its a chicken-egg problem when to expand some of them. I uploaded a beta 
that makes a destinction:

\startbuffer[test]
     <a>
         Hello&thinspace-a;World

         Hello&thinspace-b;World
     </a>
\stopbuffer

\startxmlsetups xml:testsetups
     \xmlsetsetup{#1}{*}{xml:*}
\stopxmlsetups

\xmlregistersetup{xml:testsetups}

\startxmlsetups xml:a
     \xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups

\xmlsetentity{thinspace-a}{\,}
\xmltexentity{thinspace-b}{\,}

\starttext
     \xmlprocessbuffer{main}{test}{}
\stoptext


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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Jun 9, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Its a chicken-egg problem when to expand some of them. I uploaded a beta that makes a destinction:
> 
> 
> \xmlsetentity{thinspace-a}{\,}
> \xmltexentity{thinspace-b}{\,}

Great, xmltexentity does what I need - it's just that the interface has changed, so I need to adapt a few dozens xml styles... Thanks, and all best

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Re: beta

[Li Yanrui (李延瑞)]

2011/6/9 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a beta.
>

The luatex-plain format has been broken. I use the following file to
generate format.

\input plain
\directlua {tex.enableprimitives('', tex.extraprimitives())}
\pdfoutput=1
\everyjob \expandafter {%
    \the\everyjob
    \input luatex-basics\relax
    \input luatex-fonts\relax
    \input luatex-mplib\relax
}
\edef\fmtversion{\fmtversion+luatex}
\dump

During luatex run I get an error:

! LuaTeX error ...pt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-fonts-merged.lua:2655:
unexpected symbol near '.

I think "local table.setmetatableindex(t,f)" in the
luatex-fonts-merged.lua should be "local function
table.setmetatableindex(t,f)".

After I modified as above, some simple examples can be compiled.
However I get an error again when I try to use CJK fonts. For example:

\font\song=AdobeSongStd-Light
\bye

The error message is "! LuaTeX error
...-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-fonts-merged.lua:4466: attempt
to index local 'unicodevector' (a nil value).".

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 9-6-2011 3:38, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) wrote:
> 2011/6/9 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I uploaded a beta.
>>
>
> The luatex-plain format has been broken. I use the following file to
> generate format.
>
> \input plain
> \directlua {tex.enableprimitives('', tex.extraprimitives())}
> \pdfoutput=1
> \everyjob \expandafter {%
>      \the\everyjob
>      \input luatex-basics\relax
>      \input luatex-fonts\relax
>      \input luatex-mplib\relax
> }
> \edef\fmtversion{\fmtversion+luatex}
> \dump
>
> During luatex run I get an error:
>
> ! LuaTeX error ...pt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-fonts-merged.lua:2655:
> unexpected symbol near '.

you should take luatex-plain.tex as example

Hans

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Re: beta

[Li Yanrui (李延瑞)]

2011/6/9 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> On 9-6-2011 3:38, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) wrote:
>>
>> 2011/6/9 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I uploaded a beta.
>>>
>>
>> The luatex-plain format has been broken. I use the following file to
>> generate format.
>>
>> \input plain
>> \directlua {tex.enableprimitives('', tex.extraprimitives())}
>> \pdfoutput=1
>> \everyjob \expandafter {%
>>     \the\everyjob
>>     \input luatex-basics\relax
>>     \input luatex-fonts\relax
>>     \input luatex-mplib\relax
>> }
>> \edef\fmtversion{\fmtversion+luatex}
>> \dump
>>
>> During luatex run I get an error:
>>
>> ! LuaTeX error
>> ...pt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-fonts-merged.lua:2655:
>> unexpected symbol near '.
>
> you should take luatex-plain.tex as example
>

It seems that luatex-plain.tex has been not exist in minimals for a long time.

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 9-6-2011 1:15, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) wrote:

> It seems that luatex-plain.tex has been not exist in minimals for a long time.

ah, i see; on my machine it's called luatex.tex; will be in the next beta

\input plain

\directlua {tex.enableprimitives('', tex.extraprimitives())}

\pdfoutput=1

\everyjob \expandafter {%
     \the\everyjob
     \input luatex-basics\relax
     \input luatex-fonts\relax
     \input luatex-mplib\relax
}

\edef\fmtversion{\fmtversion+luatex}

\dump



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Re: beta

[Li Yanrui (李延瑞)]

2011/6/9 Li Yanrui (李延瑞) <liyanrui.m2@gmail.com>:
> 2011/6/9 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I uploaded a beta.
>>
>
> The luatex-plain format has been broken. I use the following file to
> generate format.
>
> \input plain
> \directlua {tex.enableprimitives('', tex.extraprimitives())}
> \pdfoutput=1
> \everyjob \expandafter {%
>    \the\everyjob
>    \input luatex-basics\relax
>    \input luatex-fonts\relax
>    \input luatex-mplib\relax
> }
> \edef\fmtversion{\fmtversion+luatex}
> \dump
>
> During luatex run I get an error:
>
> ! LuaTeX error ...pt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-fonts-merged.lua:2655:
> unexpected symbol near '.
>
> I think "local table.setmetatableindex(t,f)" in the
> luatex-fonts-merged.lua should be "local function
> table.setmetatableindex(t,f)".
>
> After I modified as above, some simple examples can be compiled.
> However I get an error again when I try to use CJK fonts. For example:
>
> \font\song=AdobeSongStd-Light
> \bye
>
> The error message is "! LuaTeX error
> ...-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-fonts-merged.lua:4466: attempt
> to index local 'unicodevector' (a nil value).".
>

I have updated the beta to 2011.06.11 and used luatex-plain.tex to
generate the format but the same problems still exist.

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Re: beta

[Li Yanrui (李延瑞)]

2011/6/12 Li Yanrui (李延瑞) <liyanrui.m2@gmail.com>:
> 2011/6/9 Li Yanrui (李延瑞) <liyanrui.m2@gmail.com>:
>> 2011/6/9 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I uploaded a beta.
>>>
>>
>> The luatex-plain format has been broken. I use the following file to
>> generate format.
>>
>> \input plain
>> \directlua {tex.enableprimitives('', tex.extraprimitives())}
>> \pdfoutput=1
>> \everyjob \expandafter {%
>>    \the\everyjob
>>    \input luatex-basics\relax
>>    \input luatex-fonts\relax
>>    \input luatex-mplib\relax
>> }
>> \edef\fmtversion{\fmtversion+luatex}
>> \dump
>>
>> During luatex run I get an error:
>>
>> ! LuaTeX error ...pt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-fonts-merged.lua:2655:
>> unexpected symbol near '.
>>
>> I think "local table.setmetatableindex(t,f)" in the
>> luatex-fonts-merged.lua should be "local function
>> table.setmetatableindex(t,f)".
>>
>> After I modified as above, some simple examples can be compiled.
>> However I get an error again when I try to use CJK fonts. For example:
>>
>> \font\song=AdobeSongStd-Light
>> \bye
>>
>> The error message is "! LuaTeX error
>> ...-context/tex/generic/context/luatex-fonts-merged.lua:4466: attempt
>> to index local 'unicodevector' (a nil value).".
>>
>
> I have updated the beta to 2011.06.11 and used luatex-plain.tex to
> generate the format but the same problems still exist.
>

i get to know what the problem is.

1. "local table.setmetatableindex(t,f)" in luatex-basics-gen.lua (or
luatex-fonts-merged.lua) should be "function
table.setmetatableindex(t,f)" otherwise it causes unexpected symbol
error.

2. unicodes table in font-agl.lua is empty now. it causes
unicodevector table is nil in font-map.lua (or
luatex-fonts-merged.lua).

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 14-6-2011 8:10, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) wrote:

> 1. "local table.setmetatableindex(t,f)" in luatex-basics-gen.lua (or
> luatex-fonts-merged.lua) should be "function
> table.setmetatableindex(t,f)" otherwise it causes unexpected symbol
> error.

fixed in next beta

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

One of the changes in mkiv font handling is that from now on we have 
mode=auto as default (beware, this is one of those mkiv only options and 
not supported in the generic variant).

I don't know how well it works in practice but it does work out ok for 
cases like:

\starttext

     \startTEXpage
         \definedfont[Serif*default at 20pt]fijn\par
         \definefontfeature[nlddefault][default][script=latn,language=nld]
         \definedfont[Serif*nlddefault at 20pt]fijn\par
     \stopTEXpage

\stoptext

Depending on the font, node mode takes more memory (and a bit more 
runtime) but you can always enforce base or node mode when you are 
unhappy with the automatically determined mode.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Thomas Schmitz]

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:53:10 +0100
  Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> One of the changes in mkiv font handling is that from 
>now on we have mode=auto as default (beware, this is one 
>of those mkiv only options and not supported in the 
>generic variant).
> 
Hans,

I may be misunderstanding things, but I can't get my font 
features to work with the latest beta, possibly because of 
this change, or I'm doing something wrong. Here is an 
example:

\definefontfeature[antikwa] 
[mode=node,language=dflt,script=latn,kern=yes,onum=yes]

\starttypescript [serif] [test]
	\definefontsynonym [Serif] [file:antpoltlt-regular]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [test]
	\definetypeface[test] [rm] [serif] [test] [default] 
[features=antikwa]
\stoptypescript

\setupbodyfont[test]

\starttext

Test 1234567890

\stoptext

This gives me oldstyle figures with the beta of 
2011.02.25, but not with the latest beta. Is this a bug, 
or do I have to adapt my definitions?

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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 26.03.2011 um 22:04 schrieb Thomas Schmitz:

> I may be misunderstanding things, but I can't get my font features to work with the latest beta, possibly because of this change, or I'm doing something wrong.

font-ini.mkiv (enable \inheritfromfontclass):

- \newconditional\inheritfromfontclass % used in \definefont and \definedfont
+ \newconditional\inheritfromfontclass \settrue\inheritfromfontclass % used in \definefont and \definedfont

font-ctx.lua (check “classfeatures” before “fontfeatures”):

function definers.stage_two(global,cs,str,size,classfeatures,fontfeatures,classfallbacks,fontfallbacks,
        mathsize,textsize,relativeid,classgoodies,goodies)
    ...
    if detail and detail ~= "" then
        specification.method, specification.detail = method or "*", detail
    elseif specification.detail and specification.detail ~= "" then
        -- already set
-   elseif fontfeatures and fontfeatures ~= "" then
-       specification.method, specification.detail = "*", fontfeatures
-   elseif classfeatures and classfeatures ~= "" then
-       specification.method, specification.detail = "*", classfeatures
+   elseif classfeatures and classfeatures ~= "" then
+       specification.method, specification.detail = "*", classfeatures
+   elseif fontfeatures and fontfeatures ~= "" then
+       specification.method, specification.detail = "*", fontfeatures
    end
    ...
    statistics.stoptiming(fonts)
end

Wolfgang

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Re: beta

[Thomas Schmitz]

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:52:38 +0200
  Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> 
wrote:
> 
> Am 26.03.2011 um 22:04 schrieb Thomas Schmitz:
> 
>> I may be misunderstanding things, but I can't get my 
>>font features to work with the latest beta, possibly 
>>because of this change, or I'm doing something wrong.
> 
> font-ini.mkiv (enable \inheritfromfontclass):
> 
> - \newconditional\inheritfromfontclass % used in 
>\definefont and \definedfont
> + \newconditional\inheritfromfontclass 
>\settrue\inheritfromfontclass % used in \definefont and 
>\definedfont
> 
> font-ctx.lua (check “classfeatures” before 
>“fontfeatures”):
> 
> function 
>definers.stage_two(global,cs,str,size,classfeatures,fontfeatures,classfallbacks,fontfallbacks,
>        mathsize,textsize,relativeid,classgoodies,goodies)
>    ...
>    if detail and detail ~= "" then
>        specification.method, specification.detail = 
>method or "*", detail
>    elseif specification.detail and specification.detail 
>~= "" then
>        -- already set
> -   elseif fontfeatures and fontfeatures ~= "" then
> -       specification.method, specification.detail = 
>"*", fontfeatures
> -   elseif classfeatures and classfeatures ~= "" then
> -       specification.method, specification.detail = 
>"*", classfeatures
> +   elseif classfeatures and classfeatures ~= "" then
> +       specification.method, specification.detail = 
>"*", classfeatures
> +   elseif fontfeatures and fontfeatures ~= "" then
> +       specification.method, specification.detail = 
>"*", fontfeatures
>    end
>    ...
>    statistics.stoptiming(fonts)
> end
> 
> Wolfgang
> 

Wolfgang,

thanks a lot. This works with the minimal example I have 
created but breaks with a real file. I need to go deeper 
and construct another example. In the meantime, here's the 
error:

system          > logs > lua: compiling 
/home/tas/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/fonts/data/names.tma 
into 
/home/tas/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/fonts/data/names.tmc
fonts           > names > accessing the data table failed
fonts           > otf loading > loading: 
/home/tas/context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/gust/poltawski/antpolt-regular.otf 
(hash: antpolt-regular-oxoniensis)
fonts           > otf loading > font loaded okay
fonts           > otf loading > file size: 131876

mtx-context     | fatal error: no return code, message: 
luatex: execution interrupted%

The document doesn't use the poltawski font, so I'm very 
puzzled about the error message.

Thomas
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 27-3-2011 8:52, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 26.03.2011 um 22:04 schrieb Thomas Schmitz:
>
>> I may be misunderstanding things, but I can't get my font features to work with the latest beta, possibly because of this change, or I'm doing something wrong.
>
> font-ini.mkiv (enable \inheritfromfontclass):
>
> - \newconditional\inheritfromfontclass % used in \definefont and \definedfont
> + \newconditional\inheritfromfontclass \settrue\inheritfromfontclass % used in \definefont and \definedfont

indeed (actually this conditional is introduced because i noticed that 
there was unexpected inheritance going on - esp the mp default font)

> font-ctx.lua (check “classfeatures” before “fontfeatures”):
>
> function definers.stage_two(global,cs,str,size,classfeatures,fontfeatures,classfallbacks,fontfallbacks,
>          mathsize,textsize,relativeid,classgoodies,goodies)
>      ...
>      if detail and detail ~= "" then
>          specification.method, specification.detail = method or "*", detail
>      elseif specification.detail and specification.detail ~= "" then
>          -- already set
> -   elseif fontfeatures and fontfeatures ~= "" then
> -       specification.method, specification.detail = "*", fontfeatures
> -   elseif classfeatures and classfeatures ~= "" then
> -       specification.method, specification.detail = "*", classfeatures
> +   elseif classfeatures and classfeatures ~= "" then
> +       specification.method, specification.detail = "*", classfeatures
> +   elseif fontfeatures and fontfeatures ~= "" then
> +       specification.method, specification.detail = "*", fontfeatures
>      end
>      ...
>      statistics.stoptiming(fonts)
> end

hm, so class features should always win? maybe we should make that 
configureable .. i cannot oversee the implication of this


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Re: beta

[Thomas Schmitz]

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:05:38 +0200
  Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> 
> hm, so class features should always win? maybe we should 
>make that configureable .. i cannot oversee the 
>implication of this
> 
I'm still trying to make a minimal example for my errors. 
It has something to do with lookups in a fea file (which 
work with version 11-02-25). I'm pretty unhappy atm, many 
of my custom fonts & typescripts do not work as they used 
to...

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi Wolfgang

> - \newconditional\inheritfromfontclass % used in \definefont and \definedfont
> + \newconditional\inheritfromfontclass \settrue\inheritfromfontclass % used in \definefont and \definedfont

I now have:

\setnewconstant\featureinheritancefontnone  \zerocount
\setnewconstant\featureinheritancefontonly  \plusone
\setnewconstant\featureinheritanceclassonly \plustwo
\setnewconstant\featureinheritancefontfirst \plusthree
\setnewconstant\featureinheritanceclassfirst\plusfour

\setnewconstant\featureinheritancedefault   \featureinheritancefontfirst
\setnewconstant\featureinheritancemode      \featureinheritancedefault

to play with

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta. There are quite some changes this time:

- backend code has been reorganized and cleaned up and aspects of 
interaction have been partially reimplemented (like widgets) in a more 
mkiv-ish way (or actually mkvi); widgets now have an updated inheritance 
model

- the font related lua code has been cleaned up and reorganized as well 
and; the cached data is different, the memory footprint is somewhat 
smaller, processing can be a bit faster, font related parameters are 
better organized in subtables in the font instance, etc

- the generic font code (in luatex-fonts) has been stripped from context 
related features so that it is easier to cook up mkiv specific 
extensions without too much interference (or side effects) for the 
generic code

- a couple of fixes (like discussed on this list the last few weeks) 
have been applied

Hans

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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 25 Mar 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta. There are quite some changes this time:

FWIW, the installtion of beta works fine for me.

> - backend code has been reorganized and cleaned up and aspects of interaction 
> have been partially reimplemented (like widgets) in a more mkiv-ish way (or 
> actually mkvi); widgets now have an updated inheritance model

Looks really nice. Do I have to do something different to activate MkVI 
syntax, or will that work in regular mkiv files as well?

> - the font related lua code has been cleaned up and reorganized as well and; 
> the cached data is different, the memory footprint is somewhat smaller, 
> processing can be a bit faster, font related parameters are better organized 
> in subtables in the font instance, etc
>
> - the generic font code (in luatex-fonts) has been stripped from context 
> related features so that it is easier to cook up mkiv specific extensions 
> without too much interference (or side effects) for the generic code
>
> - a couple of fixes (like discussed on this list the last few weeks) have 
> been applied

\setuppaersize[A5] appears to be working fine in MKIV. Can you backport 
the change to MkII also?

Aditya
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Re: beta

[Peter Münster]

Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> writes:

> \setuppaersize[A5] appears to be working fine in MKIV.

Nice! So you can close http://tracker.luatex.org/view.php?id=581

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 25-3-2011 8:23, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

>> - backend code has been reorganized and cleaned up and aspects of
>> interaction have been partially reimplemented (like widgets) in a more
>> mkiv-ish way (or actually mkvi); widgets now have an updated
>> inheritance model
>
> Looks really nice. Do I have to do something different to activate MkVI
> syntax, or will that work in regular mkiv files as well?

a file with suffix mkvi will be handled automatically and files that have

% ... macros=mkvi ...

on the first line too

> \setuppaersize[A5] appears to be working fine in MKIV. Can you backport
> the change to MkII also?

hm, needs checking

Hans

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Re: beta

[mathew]

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:30, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> - the font related lua code has been cleaned up and reorganized as well and;
> the cached data is different, the memory footprint is somewhat smaller,
> processing can be a bit faster, font related parameters are better organized
> in subtables in the font instance, etc

Well, I no longer get an error when ConTeXt tries to load the
GhostScript dingbats font:

mkiv lua stats  > loaded fonts - 34 files: stmary10.afm
lmmono12-regular.otf lmmono8-regular.otf lmmono9-regular.otf
lmroman12-bold.otf lmroman12-regular.otf lmroman7-bold.otf
lmroman7-regular.otf lmroman9-bold.otf lmroman9-regular.otf
lmsans12-regular.otf lmsans8-regular.otf lmsans9-regular.otf
eufb10.tfm eufb7.tfm eufm10.tfm eufm7.tfm msam10.tfm msam7.tfm
msbm10.tfm msbm7.tfm lmex10.tfm lmmi12.tfm lmmi7.tfm lmmi9.tfm
lmmib10.tfm lmmib7.tfm lmsy10.tfm lmsy7.tfm lmsy9.tfm rm-lmr12.tfm
rm-lmr7.tfm rm-lmr9.tfm d050000l.afm

^^^ there it is at the end! ^^^

I still don't get any dingbats in my PDF output, but it feels like
progress is being made...

\starttypescript [sans][dingbats][name]
\definefontsynonym [Sans][name:dingbatsnormal]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface [dingbats][ss][sans][dingbats][default]
\starttext
Here's a dingbat: {\dingbats ✪ \char"272a}
\stoptext


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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

On 03/25/2011 11:03 PM, mathew wrote:
>
> I still don't get any dingbats in my PDF output, but it feels like
> progress is being made...

Please read this message:

http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20110322.165523.c82b23df.en.html

> \starttypescript [sans][dingbats][name]
> \definefontsynonym [Sans][name:dingbatsnormal]
> \stoptypescript
> \definetypeface [dingbats][ss][sans][dingbats][default]
> \starttext
> Here's a dingbat: {\dingbats ✪ \char"272a}
> \stoptext

As I wrote in that message, the ghostscript dingbats will not be in
the actual unicode locations because the Type1 font does not carry
enough information for the reencoding to work.

Best wishes,
Taco

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 26-3-2011 9:19, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> On 03/25/2011 11:03 PM, mathew wrote:
>>
>> I still don't get any dingbats in my PDF output, but it feels like
>> progress is being made...
>
> Please read this message:
>
> http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20110322.165523.c82b23df.en.html
>
>> \starttypescript [sans][dingbats][name]
>> \definefontsynonym [Sans][name:dingbatsnormal]
>> \stoptypescript
>> \definetypeface [dingbats][ss][sans][dingbats][default]
>> \starttext
>> Here's a dingbat: {\dingbats ✪ \char"272a}
>> \stoptext
>
> As I wrote in that message, the ghostscript dingbats will not be in
> the actual unicode locations because the Type1 font does not carry
> enough information for the reencoding to work.

Indeed and I was somewhat puzzled by this topic coming up again.

Now, as the gs dingbats seem to have the same names as the official ones 
(some weird numbering scheme) i added a reencoding vector (if the gs 
files had been different I'd not done that). The next beta will provide

\starttext

% predefined: \definefontfeature[dingbats][goodies=dingbats,unicoding=yes]

Star: {\definedfont[d050000l*dingbats]✪ \char"272a}\par
Star: {\definedfont[d050000l:goodies=dingbats,unicoding=yes]✪ \char"272a}

\stoptext

It's up to Mathew to check each entry in dingbats.lfg ... (I've put it 
in the distribution but will remove it when it is incorrect).

Hans

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Re: beta

[mathew]

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 05:42, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 26-3-2011 9:19, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> As I wrote in that message, the ghostscript dingbats will not be in
>> the actual unicode locations because the Type1 font does not carry
>> enough information for the reencoding to work.
>
> Indeed and I was somewhat puzzled by this topic coming up again.

There's a simple explanation: I didn't receive the previous on-list
replies. I just searched my spam folders and ConTeXt list folder, and
I still can't find them. Very mysterious.

> Now, as the gs dingbats seem to have the same names as the official ones
> (some weird numbering scheme) i added a reencoding vector (if the gs files
> had been different I'd not done that).

Taco writes:
>First, run this file:
>
>\usemodule[fnt-10]
>\starttext
>\ShowCompleteFont{name:dingbats}{10pt}{1}
>\stoptext

That gives me an error:

! LuaTeX error <main ctx instance>:35: attempt to index field
'iterators' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
	<main ctx instance>:35: in function 'show_all'
	<main ctx instance>:1: in main chunk.

\ShowCompleteFont ... \ctxlua { fonts.show_all() }
                                                   \stopcolumns \page \egroup
l.146 ...ompleteFont{name:dejavusansmono}{10pt}{1}

I'd really like to know how to get a dump of all the symbols in a font
with the codes to address them by, as in general I don't think we can
expect Hans to build indices for every dingbat font out there :-)

I actually had no idea that the glyphs in font files had font-specific
names. I thought they were just numbered according to some standard
encoding, and that it was a matter of translating from glyph name or
Unicode number to whatever encoding was used in the font file.


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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 26-3-2011 11:00, mathew wrote:

> ! LuaTeX error<main ctx instance>:35: attempt to index field
> 'iterators' (a nil value)

will be fixed
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Re: beta

[Li Yanrui (李延瑞)]

2011/3/26 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta.
>

The protrusion does not work.

I have tested it with the example in
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Protrusion#MkIV

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Re: beta

[Florian Wobbe]

> The protrusion does not work.

Confirmed.

Also I do get a huge number of overfull lines which was not the case with beta 2011.02.25 22:03. This is strange because there is plenty of room (about 75 characters per line). Unfortunately I was unsuccessful to reproduce this with a minimal example. I guess there are several triggering factors.

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 26-3-2011 12:23, Florian Wobbe wrote:
>> The protrusion does not work.
>
> Confirmed.
>
> Also I do get a huge number of overfull lines which was not the case with beta 2011.02.25 22:03. This is strange because there is plenty of room (about 75 characters per line). Unfortunately I was unsuccessful to reproduce this with a minimal example. I guess there are several triggering factors.

well, if protrusion does not work, then indeed you get a different outcome


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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 26-3-2011 2:16, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) wrote:
> 2011/3/26 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I uploaded a new beta.
>>
>
> The protrusion does not work.
>
> I have tested it with the example in
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Protrusion#MkIV


fixed in next upload ... btw, in the current version there is no need to 
reset the bodyfont as loading is delayed till starttext anyway

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Re: beta

[Florian Wobbe]

On Mar 26, 2011, at 12:42 , Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 26-3-2011 2:16, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) wrote:
>> 2011/3/26 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I uploaded a new beta.
>>> 
>> 
>> The protrusion does not work.
>> 
>> I have tested it with the example in
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Protrusion#MkIV
> 
> 
> fixed in next upload

Thanks. Is there a way to enable protrusion for figure captions?

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 27-3-2011 1:21, Florian Wobbe wrote:
>
> On Mar 26, 2011, at 12:42 , Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> On 26-3-2011 2:16, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) wrote:
>>> 2011/3/26 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I uploaded a new beta.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The protrusion does not work.
>>>
>>> I have tested it with the example in
>>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Protrusion#MkIV
>>
>>
>> fixed in next upload
>
> Thanks. Is there a way to enable protrusion for figure captions?

just set up the align for captions

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Re: beta

[Reviczky, Adam]

>>On Tuesday 01 February 2011 12:30:40 Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> On 1-2-2011 11:51, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
>>> > ! LuaTeX error
>>> > ...xt/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/l-dir.lua:67: cannot open
>>> > /home/braslau/.fonts/: No such file or directory
>>> 
>>> is this new? weird as nothing was changed there .. anyway, i added a check
>>
>>I believe that this is new (but did not test systematically).
>>In any case, it should indeed be caught.

I have the same error now with the latest beta (2011-02-05) if there's a folder defined in OSFONTDIR that doesn't exist.
Is there a particular reason why the isdir(path) check in globpattern from l-dir.lua was removed?
If I add it back then there's no error.

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 7-2-2011 10:53, Reviczky, Adam wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 01 February 2011 12:30:40 Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>> On 1-2-2011 11:51, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
>>>>> ! LuaTeX error
>>>>> ...xt/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/l-dir.lua:67: cannot open
>>>>> /home/braslau/.fonts/: No such file or directory
>>>>
>>>> is this new? weird as nothing was changed there .. anyway, i added a check
>>>
>>> I believe that this is new (but did not test systematically).
>>> In any case, it should indeed be caught.
>
> I have the same error now with the latest beta (2011-02-05) if there's a folder defined in OSFONTDIR that doesn't exist.
> Is there a particular reason why the isdir(path) check in globpattern from l-dir.lua was removed?
> If I add it back then there's no error.

The check broke other globbing (e.g. wildcard) and is not robust so I 
removed it; I need more info about why/where it fails at your end.

Hans


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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta.

Hans


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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Hans,

I uploaded the new beta with the Minimals, but neither mkii nor mkiv work anymore…
I get
	MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
and 
	luatools --generate
gives the same result.
Has something changed in first-setup.sh for Mac OS X and other machines (I followed the thread about that file being changed for Windows by Mojca, but I don't know about other operating systems).

I am reporting this just to let you know: I don't have any problem going back to ConTexT version 2011.01.25.

Best regards: OK

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> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a new beta.
> 
> Hans

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Re: beta

[Thomas Schmitz]

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:33:57 +0100
  Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Hans,
> 
> I uploaded the new beta with the Minimals, but neither 
>mkii nor mkiv work anymore…
> I get
> 	MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 
>'mtx-context.lua'
> and 
> 	luatools --generate
> gives the same result.

This has been deprecated for quite a while now; you have 
to run

mtxrun --generate

> Has something changed in first-setup.sh for Mac OS X and 
>other machines (I followed the thread about that file 
>being changed for Windows by Mojca, but I don't know 
>about other operating systems).

I see the same thing on linux: you have to run mtxrun 
--generate and mktexlsr and texexec --make by hand now; 
after that, mkiv and mkii will run.

I assume that's a result of our discussion last week, but 
not quite what Hans and Mojca are aiming at...

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

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Hi Thomas,

Many thanks for your attention: indeed afer doing
	mtxrun --generate
and then
	context --make --all
I could use mkiv, and had to do
	mktexlsr 
and the 
	texexec --make --all
in order to use mkii. 
I gues eventually these commands would be integrated somehow in first-setup.sh, but I didn't notice that that file was supposed to be updated also.

Best regards: OK

On 31 janv. 2011, at 18:45, Thomas Schmitz wrote:

> On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:33:57 +0100
> Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>> I uploaded the new beta with the Minimals, but neither mkii nor mkiv work anymore…
>> I get
>> 	MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>> and 	luatools --generate
>> gives the same result.
> 
> This has been deprecated for quite a while now; you have to run
> 
> mtxrun --generate
> 
>> Has something changed in first-setup.sh for Mac OS X and other machines (I followed the thread about that file being changed for Windows by Mojca, but I don't know about other operating systems).
> 
> I see the same thing on linux: you have to run mtxrun --generate and mktexlsr and texexec --make by hand now; after that, mkiv and mkii will run.
> 
> I assume that's a result of our discussion last week, but not quite what Hans and Mojca are aiming at...
> 
> Thomas
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Re: beta

[Hans van der Meer]

Surprised this works somewhere. I uploaded the beta with the script I am using for sometime now:
#!/bin/bash
mkdir -p $TEXMINIMAL/tex
cd $TEXMINIMAL
ln -s $TEXPRIVATE tex/texmf-local
curl -o first-setup.sh http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/first-setup.sh
sh ./first-setup.sh >first-setup.log
cd tex
echo "luatools --selfupdate"
luatools --selfupdate
echo "mtxrun -selfupdate"
mtxrun -selfupdate
echo "mtxrun -selfupdate"
echo "installation context minimals done"

But now I get an error in running my TeXShop after installing:
    MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
Confirmed that something is broken by regressing to my previous installation of ConTeXt  ver: 2011.01.26 11:02 MKIV  fmt: 2011.1.31  int: english/english
Changing the script to mtxrun --generate do not improve things here.

Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am starting to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem broken with the next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are costing me hours to iron out, time I do not have at the moment.

Hans van der Meer


On 31 jan 2011, at 18:45, Thomas Schmitz wrote:

> On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:33:57 +0100
> Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>> I uploaded the new beta with the Minimals, but neither mkii nor mkiv work anymore…
>> I get
>> 	MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>> and 	luatools --generate
>> gives the same result.
> 
> This has been deprecated for quite a while now; you have to run
> 
> mtxrun --generate
> 
>> Has something changed in first-setup.sh for Mac OS X and other machines (I followed the thread about that file being changed for Windows by Mojca, but I don't know about other operating systems).
> 
> I see the same thing on linux: you have to run mtxrun --generate and mktexlsr and texexec --make by hand now; after that, mkiv and mkii will run.
> 
> I assume that's a result of our discussion last week, but not quite what Hans and Mojca are aiming at...
> 
> Thomas
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Re: beta

[Peter Münster]

Hans van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl> writes:

> Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am starting
> to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem broken with the
> next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are costing me hours to iron
> out, time I do not have at the moment.

See also: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/76158 ;-)

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 31-1-2011 7:11, Hans van der Meer wrote:

> Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am starting to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem broken with the next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are costing me hours to iron out, time I do not have at the moment.

well, no one forces you to update betas

also, as long as we're in transition to mkiv you can expect an 
occasional hickup, after all, i have only a few machines to test

maybe it gives you comfort to know that I spend more hours to iron out 
problems -)

Hans

ps. recently i spent a week ironing out nfs4 problems just to find out 
(by googling) that i'd best revert al machines back to nfs3 and i can 
give more examples; believe it or not, it makes me feel less guilty

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Re: beta

[Vnpenguin]

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 22:28, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 31-1-2011 7:11, Hans van der Meer wrote:
>
>> Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am
>> starting to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem broken
>> with the next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are costing me hours
>> to iron out, time I do not have at the moment.
>
> well, no one forces you to update betas
>
> also, as long as we're in transition to mkiv you can expect an occasional
> hickup, after all, i have only a few machines to test

It's better to have someone could give you a hand.
In the long term, something like "Release Team" would be a must for
ConTeXt development. With this team, we can do some "Unit testing" for
each release in order to minimize problem.
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 1-2-2011 6:53, Vnpenguin wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 22:28, Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>  wrote:
>> On 31-1-2011 7:11, Hans van der Meer wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am
>>> starting to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem broken
>>> with the next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are costing me hours
>>> to iron out, time I do not have at the moment.
>>
>> well, no one forces you to update betas
>>
>> also, as long as we're in transition to mkiv you can expect an occasional
>> hickup, after all, i have only a few machines to test
>
> It's better to have someone could give you a hand.
> In the long term, something like "Release Team" would be a must for
> ConTeXt development. With this team, we can do some "Unit testing" for
> each release in order to minimize problem.

to some extend this is what the beta is for ... because mkiv is a moving 
target it sort of replaces the current, but if i can imagine that users 
wait a few days with updating till there are no problems reported

concerning testing ... there is a slowly growing test suite, and i guess 
that at some point Luigi will run it alongside his module documentation 
runs .. you can offer him help with that (sanjoy also has made some test 
setup)

in this particular case (adaption of mtxrun) testing is somewhat 
problematic as we need a test-minimal alongside the regular one and that 
might happen when mojca has set up the new machine

Hans

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Re: beta

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 1-2-2011 6:53, Vnpenguin wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 22:28, Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 31-1-2011 7:11, Hans van der Meer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am
>>>> starting to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem
>>>> broken
>>>> with the next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are costing me
>>>> hours
>>>> to iron out, time I do not have at the moment.
>>>
>>> well, no one forces you to update betas
>>>
>>> also, as long as we're in transition to mkiv you can expect an occasional
>>> hickup, after all, i have only a few machines to test
>>
>> It's better to have someone could give you a hand.
>> In the long term, something like "Release Team" would be a must for
>> ConTeXt development. With this team, we can do some "Unit testing" for
>> each release in order to minimize problem.
>
> to some extend this is what the beta is for ... because mkiv is a moving
> target it sort of replaces the current, but if i can imagine that users wait
> a few days with updating till there are no problems reported
>
> concerning testing ... there is a slowly growing test suite, and i guess
> that at some point Luigi will run it alongside his module documentation runs
> .. you can offer him help with that (sanjoy also has made some test setup)
...mea culpa....
I'm busy with bachotex material --- and a wrong Ubuntu LTS upgrade...
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Re: beta

[Alan BRASLAU]

My update proceedure systematically maintains a previous,
presumably working, copy of the minimals. For this, I run
a script:

#!/bin/sh
cd /usr/local/context
cd beta
echo "*** move current to previous ***"
rsync -av --delete --progress . ../previous
echo "*** update beta ***"
rsync -ptv --progress rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
./first-setup.sh --extras=all | tee first-setup.log

This way I limit problems while still working with the latest, greatest
beta version of ConTeXt. When things go wrong with the update,
I simply move "beta" to "new" (or something else) and "previous" to "beta",
my PATH being set to use "beta".

Perhaps others can suggest a better working proceedure.

Of course, when pressed for time, I postpone updating to Hans' latest
so as not to be distracted from the work at hand.

Alan


On Tuesday 01 February 2011 09:43:00 Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 1-2-2011 6:53, Vnpenguin wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 22:28, Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>  wrote:
> >> On 31-1-2011 7:11, Hans van der Meer wrote:
> >>> Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am
> >>> starting to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem
> >>> broken with the next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are
> >>> costing me hours to iron out, time I do not have at the moment.
> >> 
> >> well, no one forces you to update betas
> >> 
> >> also, as long as we're in transition to mkiv you can expect an
> >> occasional hickup, after all, i have only a few machines to test
> > 
> > It's better to have someone could give you a hand.
> > In the long term, something like "Release Team" would be a must for
> > ConTeXt development. With this team, we can do some "Unit testing" for
> > each release in order to minimize problem.
> 
> to some extend this is what the beta is for ... because mkiv is a moving
> target it sort of replaces the current, but if i can imagine that users
> wait a few days with updating till there are no problems reported
> 
> concerning testing ... there is a slowly growing test suite, and i guess
> that at some point Luigi will run it alongside his module documentation
> runs .. you can offer him help with that (sanjoy also has made some test
> setup)
> 
> in this particular case (adaption of mtxrun) testing is somewhat
> problematic as we need a test-minimal alongside the regular one and that
> might happen when mojca has set up the new machine
> 
> Hans
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 31-1-2011 6:45, Thomas Schmitz wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:33:57 +0100
> Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> I uploaded the new beta with the Minimals, but neither mkii nor mkiv
>> work anymore…
>> I get
>> MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>> and luatools --generate
>> gives the same result.
>
> This has been deprecated for quite a while now; you have to run
>
> mtxrun --generate
>
>> Has something changed in first-setup.sh for Mac OS X and other
>> machines (I followed the thread about that file being changed for
>> Windows by Mojca, but I don't know about other operating systems).
>
> I see the same thing on linux: you have to run mtxrun --generate and
> mktexlsr and texexec --make by hand now; after that, mkiv and mkii will
> run.
>
> I assume that's a result of our discussion last week, but not quite what
> Hans and Mojca are aiming at...

hm, i tested it on a linux machine and it also works at taco's end

however, I see an error in mtxrun under the upgrade bin path so I'll 
have a look at that (it's hard to test minimals without remote)

anyhow, making the databases and formats by hand works ok; the biggest 
change is not yet visible anyway (for myself i want a relocatable tree 
so i'm playing with that, normally that's not something users will deal 
with)

Hans

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Re: beta

[Jörg Hagmann]

On 1/31/11 6:45 PM, Thomas Schmitz wrote:
>> and     luatools --generate
>> gives the same result.
>
>
> This has been deprecated for quite a while now; you have to run
>
> mtxrun --generate
Does that mean that the instructions 
(http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals#Remaking_formats) have 
to be updated? There, both "mtxrun --generate" and "luatools --generate" 
are listed for making the mkiv format.

In any case, I haven't been able to install (update) the minimals in the 
last 3 months (on both OS X and ubuntu). MkII works, but context 
--version gives
"MTXrun | main context file: unknown, 'context.mkiv' not found"

And the log of running a test file contains:
-------------
MTXrun | warning: no format found, forcing remake (commandline driven)
...
MTXrun | resolvers: using given filetype 'tex'
MTXrun | resolvers: resolver: method=concatinators, how=tag, tag=file
MTXrun | resolvers: resolver: method=concatinators, how=tag, tag=file
MTXrun | resolvers: using given filetype 'tex'
MTXrun | no tex source file with name: cont-en (mkiv or tex)
MTXrun | error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting
MTXrun | total runtime: 0.347
-----------------

 From the installation log:
------------------
MTXrun | forcing cache reload
MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file 
'/Users/bonasia/texmf-local/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file 
'/Users/bonasia/texmf-local/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file 
'/Users/bonasia/texmf/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file 
'/Users/bonasia/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file '/Users/bonasia/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated
MTXrun | state: loaded
MTXrun | update: start
-------------------

Thanks and regards, Jörg

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Re: beta

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Jörg Hagmann <joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
> On 1/31/11 6:45 PM, Thomas Schmitz wrote:
>>>
>>> and     luatools --generate
>>> gives the same result.
>>
>>
>> This has been deprecated for quite a while now; you have to run
>>
>> mtxrun --generate
>
> Does that mean that the instructions
> (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals#Remaking_formats) have to be
> updated? There, both "mtxrun --generate" and "luatools --generate" are
> listed for making the mkiv format.
>
> In any case, I haven't been able to install (update) the minimals in the
> last 3 months (on both OS X and ubuntu).
hm so much time for me.
At least on January update  was almost retgular for me (mkiv)

> "MTXrun | main context file: unknown, 'context.mkiv' not found"
it can be a problem of cache corrupted; try to erase it and rebuild
with mtxrun --generate


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Re: beta

[Jörg Hagmann]

On 2/1/11 1:47 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch>  wrote:
>> On 1/31/11 6:45 PM, Thomas Schmitz wrote:
>>>> and     luatools --generate
>>>> gives the same result.
>>>
>>> This has been deprecated for quite a while now; you have to run
>>>
>>> mtxrun --generate
>> Does that mean that the instructions
>> (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals#Remaking_formats) have to be
>> updated? There, both "mtxrun --generate" and "luatools --generate" are
>> listed for making the mkiv format.
>>
>> In any case, I haven't been able to install (update) the minimals in the
>> last 3 months (on both OS X and ubuntu).
> hm so much time for me.
> At least on January update  was almost retgular for me (mkiv)
>
>> "MTXrun | main context file: unknown, 'context.mkiv' not found"
> it can be a problem of cache corrupted; try to erase it and rebuild
> with mtxrun --generate
Didn't help (provided I deleted the right thing).
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Re: beta

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Jörg Hagmann <joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
> Didn't help (provided I deleted the right thing).
Did you
$>. setuptex
?

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Re: beta

[Jörg Hagmann]

On 2/1/11 2:26 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch>  wrote:
>> Didn't help (provided I deleted the right thing).
> Did you
> $>. setuptex
Sure. mkII is working.
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Re: beta

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Jörg Hagmann <joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
>> Did you
>> $>. setuptex
>
> Sure. mkII is working.
and
$> kpsewhich context.mkiv
?
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Re: beta

[Jörg Hagmann]

On 2/1/11 2:42 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch>  wrote:
>>> Did you
>>> $>. setuptex
>> Sure. mkII is working.
> and
> $>  kpsewhich context.mkiv
> ?
/Users/bonasia/.context-new/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.mkiv
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Re: beta

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Jörg Hagmann <joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
>
>
> On 2/1/11 2:42 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch>
>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Did you
>>>> $>. setuptex
>>>
>>> Sure. mkII is working.
>>
>> and
>> $>  kpsewhich context.mkiv
>> ?
>
> /Users/bonasia/.context-new/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.mkiv
^^^^^^^^^^^
this dot looks suspect... can you try without it, ie
 /Users/bonasia/context-new...
and then
$>. setuptex
$>mtxrun --generate
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Re: beta

[Jörg Hagmann]

On 2/1/11 2:54 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch>  wrote:
>>
>> On 2/1/11 2:42 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch>
>>>   wrote:
>>>>> Did you
>>>>> $>. setuptex
>>>> Sure. mkII is working.
>>> and
>>> $>    kpsewhich context.mkiv
>>> ?
>> /Users/bonasia/.context-new/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.mkiv
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
> this dot looks suspect... can you try without it, ie
>   /Users/bonasia/context-new...
> and then
> $>. setuptex
> $>mtxrun --generate
> ?
Ok - Thank you! I keep (kept) my contexts in hidden dirs (my current one 
from 3 months ago is in ".context" and it works, but I don't remember 
whether I changed the directory to "hidden" after I installed the 
minimals or whether I installed them into ".context").

Conclusion: Installing the actual minimals in a hidden file doesn't 
work, in a "visible" one it does.

Thanks a lot for the help, Jörg
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Re: beta

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Jörg Hagmann <joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
> Conclusion: Installing the actual minimals in a hidden file doesn't work, in
> a "visible" one it does.
>
Not sure if it's a bug or feature.
If I understand correctly, mkii works ok in "hidden" folders, but mkiv no.
I suspect then a bug in names resolver which  in this situation it's ok .
(perhaps  you can try  with
/Users/bonasia/a.context-new
)
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Re: beta

[Jörg Hagmann]

On 2/1/11 3:46 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch>  wrote:
>> Conclusion: Installing the actual minimals in a hidden file doesn't work, in
>> a "visible" one it does.
>>
> Not sure if it's a bug or feature.
> If I understand correctly, mkii works ok in "hidden" folders, but mkiv no.
> I suspect then a bug in names resolver which  in this situation it's ok .
> (perhaps  you can try  with
> /Users/bonasia/a.context-new
> )
Doesn't work either. Well - my context directory doesn't have to be 
hidden - why hide a pretty thing?

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Re: beta

[Vedran Miletić]

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2011/2/1 Jörg Hagmann <joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch>

>
>
> On 2/1/11 3:46 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Conclusion: Installing the actual minimals in a hidden file doesn't work,
>>> in
>>> a "visible" one it does.
>>>
>>>  Not sure if it's a bug or feature.
>> If I understand correctly, mkii works ok in "hidden" folders, but mkiv no.
>> I suspect then a bug in names resolver which  in this situation it's ok .
>> (perhaps  you can try  with
>> /Users/bonasia/a.context-new
>> )
>>
> Doesn't work either. Well - my context directory doesn't have to be hidden
> - why hide a pretty thing?
>
> Regards, Jörg


Yes, there is a bug when using dots, someone recently triggered it when
using versioned names (context-2011.01.18 or something). Not sure if it can
be fixed.

Regards,

Vedran Miletić

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Re: beta

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Tuesday 01 February 2011 16:13:25 Vedran Miletić wrote:
> 
> Yes, there is a bug when using dots, someone recently triggered it when
> using versioned names (context-2011.01.18 or something). Not sure if it can
> be fixed.
> 

A good guide should be the use of POSIX "Fully portable filenames"

Lewine, Donald, POSIX Programmer's Guide: Writing Portable UNIX Programs, 
1991, O'Reilly & Associates, Inc., Sebastopol, CA, pp. 63-64.


Of course, some perfectly acceptable filenames
(even for a NTFS filesystem, according to MicroSoft's own standard)
wreak havoc for Windows and some Windows applications, as well as for MacOS.

See, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filename

Microsoft Windows: Windows kernel forbids the use of characters in range 1-31 
(i.e., 0x01-0x1F) and characters " * : < > ? \ / |. Although NTFS allows each 
path component (directory or filename) to be 255 characters long and paths up 
to about 32767 characters long, the Windows kernel only supports paths up to 
259 characters long if no UNC is used for addressing. Additionally, Windows 
forbids the use of the MS-DOS device names AUX, CLOCK$, COM1, COM2, COM3, 
COM4, COM5, COM6, COM7, COM8, COM9, CON, LPT1, LPT2, LPT3, LPT4, LPT5, LPT6, 
LPT7, LPT8, LPT9, NUL and PRN, as well as these names with any extension (for 
example, AUX.txt), except when using Long UNC paths (ex. \\.\C:\nul.txt or \\?
\D:\aux\con). (In fact, CLOCK$ may be used if an extension is provided.) These 
restrictions only apply to Windows - Linux, for example, allows use of " * : < 
> ? \ | even in NTFS.


Alan
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Re: beta

[Marco]

On 2011-02-01 Vedran Miletić <rivanvx@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>>  Not sure if it's a bug or feature.
> >> If I understand correctly, mkii works ok in "hidden" folders, but mkiv
> >> no. I suspect then a bug in names resolver which  in this situation it's
> >> ok . (perhaps  you can try  with
> >> /Users/bonasia/a.context-new
> >> )
> >>
> > Doesn't work either. Well - my context directory doesn't have to be hidden
> > - why hide a pretty thing?
> >
> > Regards, Jörg
> 
> 
> Yes, there is a bug when using dots, someone recently triggered it when
> using versioned names (context-2011.01.18 or something). Not sure if it can
> be fixed.

I also ran across a bug considering the case of external graphics. The case is
not taken into account. And luatex hangs, if a graphic is not found. Example:

\starttext
\externalfigure [CoW]     % A file CoW does not exist, only cow.pdf
                          % and cow.pdf is included, should output gray box

\externalfigure [GrApHiC] % Does not exist and causes mkiv to hang
                          % Should output gray box
\stoptext


Regards
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Re: beta

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Marco <netuse@lavabit.com> wrote:
> On 2011-02-01 Vedran Miletić <rivanvx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >>>  Not sure if it's a bug or feature.
>> >> If I understand correctly, mkii works ok in "hidden" folders, but mkiv
>> >> no. I suspect then a bug in names resolver which  in this situation it's
>> >> ok . (perhaps  you can try  with
>> >> /Users/bonasia/a.context-new
>> >> )
>> >>
>> > Doesn't work either. Well - my context directory doesn't have to be hidden
>> > - why hide a pretty thing?
>> >
>> > Regards, Jörg
>>
>>
>> Yes, there is a bug when using dots, someone recently triggered it when
>> using versioned names (context-2011.01.18 or something). Not sure if it can
>> be fixed.
>
> I also ran across a bug considering the case of external graphics. The case is
> not taken into account. And luatex hangs, if a graphic is not found. Example:
>
> \starttext
> \externalfigure [CoW]     % A file CoW does not exist, only cow.pdf
>                          % and cow.pdf is included, should output gray box
>
> \externalfigure [GrApHiC] % Does not exist and causes mkiv to hang
>                          % Should output gray box
> \stoptext
>
>
> Regards
> Marco
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Re: beta

[Peter Münster]

Vedran Miletić <rivanvx@gmail.com> writes:

> Yes, there is a bug when using dots,

Or a feature...?! ;)

See also:
- http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2010/052339.html
  ("and such" can mean a dot)
- http://pmrb.free.fr/contextref.pdf section 1.7
  ;-)

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Re: beta

[Marco]

On 2011-02-01 pmlists@free.fr (Peter Münster) wrote:

> Vedran Miletić <rivanvx@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > Yes, there is a bug when using dots,
> 
> Or a feature...?! ;)
> 
> See also:
> - http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2010/052339.html
>   ("and such" can mean a dot)
> - http://pmrb.free.fr/contextref.pdf section 1.7
>   ;-)

I don't want to start an argue, sice this bug/feature doesn't affect my work.
But just my 2 cents:

1) The operating system / file system basically decides which names are
   permitted. And in times of luatex and unicode it's a pity that file names
   with international characters aren't supported. All other programs can cope
   with that.

2) I often use automatically generated graphics like
   graph.1.pdf
   graph.2.pdf
   graph.3.pdf ...
   According to the documentation and Hans these file names aren't permitted,
   since dots and numbers aren't allowed. However when I include the complete
   names with extention it works.


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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 1-2-2011 3:38, Jörg Hagmann wrote:

> Conclusion: Installing the actual minimals in a hidden file doesn't
> work, in a "visible" one it does.

concerning the mkii problem .. i know where it originates and am playing 
a bit with it ... so beta syncing can be a bit erratic for a while (i 
need to make sure that mkiv can use symbolic roots while mkii gets real 
ones)

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

Hi again Hans,

Thanks to Thomas' attention I could make some testing with the latest mkiv beta (2011.01.31). It seems that roman numerals is broken in itemize, while it works fine in mkii.
Here is a minimal test:
%%% begin test.tex
\starttext
\startitemize[r]
\item Testing items and footnotes\footnote{This is a silly remark\dots}
\stopitemize
\stoptext
%%% end test.tex

and the error message I get:
! Undefined control sequence.
\romannumerals #1->\ctxcommands 
                                {romannumerals(\number #1)}
l.7 }
     
\doconvertedstructurecounter ...!criterium ", } )}
                                                  \endgroup 
<to be read again> 
                   \fi 
\doactualitemnumber ...rrentitemgroupcounter ]\fi 
                                                  \dohandleitemreference \en...
\actualitemnumber ...fi \else \doactualitemnumber 
                                                  \fi 
...
l.5 \item T
           esting items and footnotes\footnote{This is a silly remark\dots}
? 
Process aborted

Best regards: OK

On 31 janv. 2011, at 17:49, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a new beta.
> 
> Hans
> 

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 31-1-2011 7:07, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi again Hans,
>
> Thanks to Thomas' attention I could make some testing with the latest mkiv beta (2011.01.31). It seems that roman numerals is broken in itemize, while it works fine in mkii.
> Here is a minimal test:
> %%% begin test.tex
> \starttext
> \startitemize[r]
> \item Testing items and footnotes\footnote{This is a silly remark\dots}
> \stopitemize
> \stoptext
> %%% end test.tex
>
> and the error message I get:
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> \romannumerals #1->\ctxcommands
>                                  {romannumerals(\number #1)}

ah, you got me ... should be singular

fyi: this macro is a shortcut for calling a function in the lua commands 
namespace; eventually all calls at the tex end will call functions in 
the commands namespace but it's a stepwise process to get this done (all 
conversions were adapted so maybe more problems surface, but they're 
just name issues)

Hans

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Re: beta

[views63]

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Hi Hans,

my new ConTeXt misses cldf-int.mkiv

loading         : ConTeXt Multilingual Macros / Helpers
<+ /opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mult-aux.lua>)
! I can't find file `cldf-int.mkiv'.
<to be read again>
                   \relax
l.108 \loadmarkfile{cldf-int}
                              % interface
Please type another input file name:

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Huang Ze

2011/2/1 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>

> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta.
>
> Hans
>
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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta. Tho most important change is that mkii and mkiv are 
now completely separated, only a couple of modules and styles are shared.

Another change is that language related information is now organized 
differently. Labels and such are in lang-txt.lua and easier to maintain.

For those writing pretty printers: pluggable code is now under 
xxxx-imp-* i.e. the imp subnamespace. I have considered -base, -user etc 
but that would lead to too much testing. Users can put their extensions 
(when part of third party modules) under for instance 
buff-imp-t-<somename> which is unique enough. Anyway, by using an 
additional -imp- we have less change of clashing with core modules. Some 
more will probably follow.

Hopefully all files are in the zip.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Lutz Haseloff]

Hi Hans,

my new ConTeXt misses v-default.mkiv:

----------------------------------------
...
<+ c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/buff-par.lua>)
! I can't find file `v-default.mkiv'.
<to be read again>
                   \relax
l.246 \loadmarkfile{v-default}
                                  % preloaded as otherwise spurious spaces i...
Please type another input file name:
----------------------------------------

Greetings Lutz

2011/1/25 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a beta. Tho most important change is that mkii and mkiv are now
> completely separated, only a couple of modules and styles are shared.
>
> Another change is that language related information is now organized
> differently. Labels and such are in lang-txt.lua and easier to maintain.
>
> For those writing pretty printers: pluggable code is now under xxxx-imp-*
> i.e. the imp subnamespace. I have considered -base, -user etc but that would
> lead to too much testing. Users can put their extensions (when part of third
> party modules) under for instance buff-imp-t-<somename> which is unique
> enough. Anyway, by using an additional -imp- we have less change of clashing
> with core modules. Some more will probably follow.
>
> Hopefully all files are in the zip.
>
> Hans
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 25-1-2011 9:53, Lutz Haseloff wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> my new ConTeXt misses v-default.mkiv:
>
> ----------------------------------------
> ...
> <+ c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/buff-par.lua>)
> ! I can't find file `v-default.mkiv'.

ah, ok. needs to be buff-imp-default etc (on my machine it pick them up 
from a backup path so it went unnoticed) .. fixed in 5 min

Hans

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Re: beta

[Vnpenguin]

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 09:53, Lutz Haseloff
<lutz.haseloff@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> my new ConTeXt misses v-default.mkiv:
>
> ----------------------------------------
> ...
> <+ c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/buff-par.lua>)
> ! I can't find file `v-default.mkiv'.
> <to be read again>
>                   \relax
> l.246 \loadmarkfile{v-default}
>                                  % preloaded as otherwise spurious spaces i...
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> ----------------------------------------

I have exactly same error here.
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Re: beta

[Lutz Haseloff]

now is java-ini.mkiv missing:


loading         : ConTeXt Table Macros / Line Tables
) (c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/tabl-tsp.mkiv
loading         : ConTeXt Table Macros / Splitting
)
! I can't find file `java-ini.mkiv'.
<to be read again>
                   \relax
l.277 \loadmarkfile{java-ini}

Please type another input file name:



Greetings Lutz

2011/1/25 Vnpenguin <vnpenguin@vnoss.org>:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 09:53, Lutz Haseloff
> <lutz.haseloff@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> my new ConTeXt misses v-default.mkiv:
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>> ...
>> <+ c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/buff-par.lua>)
>> ! I can't find file `v-default.mkiv'.
>> <to be read again>
>>                   \relax
>> l.246 \loadmarkfile{v-default}
>>                                  % preloaded as otherwise spurious spaces i...
>> Please type another input file name:
>> ----------------------------------------
>
> I have exactly same error here.
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Re: beta

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On 25-1-2011 10:53, Lutz Haseloff wrote:
> now is java-ini.mkiv missing:
>
>
> loading         : ConTeXt Table Macros / Line Tables
> ) (c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/tabl-tsp.mkiv
> loading         : ConTeXt Table Macros / Splitting
> )
> ! I can't find file `java-ini.mkiv'.
> <to be read again>
>                     \relax
> l.277 \loadmarkfile{java-ini}
>
> Please type another input file name:

new attempt

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Re: beta

[Lutz Haseloff]

Update works now for me.

Thank You very much.

Greetings Lutz



2011/1/25 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> On 25-1-2011 10:53, Lutz Haseloff wrote:
>>
>> now is java-ini.mkiv missing:
>>
>>
>> loading         : ConTeXt Table Macros / Line Tables
>> ) (c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/tabl-tsp.mkiv
>> loading         : ConTeXt Table Macros / Splitting
>> )
>> ! I can't find file `java-ini.mkiv'.
>> <to be read again>
>>                    \relax
>> l.277 \loadmarkfile{java-ini}
>>
>> Please type another input file name:
>
> new attempt
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Re: beta

[Anand Raj]

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svg is not rendered in the beta.

\startxmlsetups xml:img
        \externalfigure[\xmlatt{#1}{src}]
\stopxmlsetups


On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Lutz Haseloff <lutz.haseloff@googlemail.com
> wrote:

> Update works now for me.
>
> Thank You very much.
>
> Greetings Lutz
>
>
>
> 2011/1/25 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> > On 25-1-2011 10:53, Lutz Haseloff wrote:
> >>
> >> now is java-ini.mkiv missing:
> >>
> >>
> >> loading         : ConTeXt Table Macros / Line Tables
> >> ) (c:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/tabl-tsp.mkiv
> >> loading         : ConTeXt Table Macros / Splitting
> >> )
> >> ! I can't find file `java-ini.mkiv'.
> >> <to be read again>
> >>                    \relax
> >> l.277 \loadmarkfile{java-ini}
> >>
> >> Please type another input file name:
> >
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Re: beta

[Alan BRASLAU]

! LuaTeX error ...xt/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/l-dir.lua:67: 
cannot open /home/braslau/.fonts/: No such file or directory

This shouldn't happen. After "mkdir $HOME/.fonts", context runs successfully.
Well, sort-of. luatex hangs on page 141, trying to place an external figure:

C! Interruption.
\startlocalframed ...g {\framedparameter \c!frame 
                                                  }\edef \@@locallocation 
{\...
\externalfigurereplacement ...!frame =\@@efframe ]
                                                   {\tt \tfxx \nohyphens 
nam...
\finishexternalfigure ...urefileoriginal {unknown}
                                                  \else \the \externalfigure...
\calculateexternalfigure ...\finishexternalfigure 
                                                  \fi \ctxlua {figures.pop()}
\dodoplaceexternalfigure ...[][#1][#2][#3][#4][#5]
                                                  \naturalvbox attr 
\imageat...
\doexternalfigure ...value {\??ef \??ef #1}[#3]}}}
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Alan






On Tuesday 25 January 2011 09:40:39 Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a beta. Tho most important change is that mkii and mkiv are
> now completely separated, only a couple of modules and styles are shared.
> 
> Another change is that language related information is now organized
> differently. Labels and such are in lang-txt.lua and easier to maintain.
> 
> For those writing pretty printers: pluggable code is now under
> xxxx-imp-* i.e. the imp subnamespace. I have considered -base, -user etc
> but that would lead to too much testing. Users can put their extensions
> (when part of third party modules) under for instance
> buff-imp-t-<somename> which is unique enough. Anyway, by using an
> additional -imp- we have less change of clashing with core modules. Some
> more will probably follow.
> 
> Hopefully all files are in the zip.
> 
> Hans
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 1-2-2011 11:51, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> ! LuaTeX error ...xt/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/l-dir.lua:67:
> cannot open /home/braslau/.fonts/: No such file or directory

is this new? weird as nothing was changed there .. anyway, i added a check

> This shouldn't happen. After "mkdir $HOME/.fonts", context runs successfully.
> Well, sort-of. luatex hangs on page 141, trying to place an external figure:

hard to say what happens there .. only that image?

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Re: beta

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Tuesday 01 February 2011 12:30:40 Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 1-2-2011 11:51, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> > ! LuaTeX error
> > ...xt/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/l-dir.lua:67: cannot open
> > /home/braslau/.fonts/: No such file or directory
> 
> is this new? weird as nothing was changed there .. anyway, i added a check

I believe that this is new (but did not test systematically).
In any case, it should indeed be caught.

> 
> > This shouldn't happen. After "mkdir $HOME/.fonts", context runs
> > successfully.
> 
> > Well, sort-of. luatex hangs on page 141, trying to place an external 
figure:
> hard to say what happens there .. only that image?

OK, I hunted it down. Now, with the current beta, context (mkiv)
hangs when the external figure does not exist, or if it is a hanging
symbolic link (pointing to a file that does not exist).
Previously, this did not cause any problems, and a magnificent
grey box containing the missing file name was placed.
I found this to be a feature. Clearly, hanging as curently is a bug.

Also, I had one case of a 5.8 Mb tiff figure that caused problems.
Converting it to a 600 kb png now goes through. Was it the filesize
or the tiff format that was a problem? Note that this figure
did not cause problems before.

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta (not that much done, waiting for the new luatex 
bins to settle). There's also an updated zip with test files.

There will probably be a current before 2011 but Taco and I need to 
coordinate that a bit.

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Re: beta

[Vedran Miletić]

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2010/12/18 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>

> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta (not that much done, waiting for the new luatex bins
> to settle). There's also an updated zip with test files.
>
> There will probably be a current before 2011 but Taco and I need to
> coordinate that a bit.
>
> Hans
>

Could you please look into alternating green-red color of references? IIRC
Mojca posted a minimal example was back in September/October, but I can't
find it. It can be seen in http://pmrb.free.fr/contextref.pdf

Regards,

Vedran Miletić

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Re: beta

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Hi,

Making format files give this

! LuaTeX error 
...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/char-ini.lua:604: attempt to 
call upvalue 'texsetcatcode' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
         ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/char-ini.lua:604: in 
function  'setcodes'
         <main ctx instance>:1: in main chunk.
l.41 \ctxlua{characters.setcodes()}

?

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 2-12-2010 9:06, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Making format files give this
>
> ! LuaTeX error
> ....tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/char-ini.lua:604: attempt to
> call upvalue 'texsetcatcode' (a nil value)
> stack traceback:
> ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/char-ini.lua:604: in function
> 'setcodes'
> <main ctx instance>:1: in main chunk.
> l.41 \ctxlua{characters.setcodes()}
>
> ?

you run an old luatex then as tex.setcatcode has been present for a while

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Hi,

I uploaded a beta. Quite some of the file related code has been cleaned 
up but as Taco and I can make a format and process a file, I decided to 
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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 15:59, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a beta. Quite some of the file related code has been cleaned up
> but as Taco and I can make a format and process a file, I decided to upload
> anyway.

Hans,

something with tables is horribly horribly broken. I get a number 4
instead of vertical line all over the place.

I'm trying to prepare a minimal example.

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Re: beta

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On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 16:54, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
> Hans,
>
> something with tables is horribly horribly broken. I get a number 4
> instead of vertical line all over the place.
>
> I'm trying to prepare a minimal example.

\starttext
\starttable[|c|c|]
\VL a \VL b \VL\AR
\stoptable
\stoptext

On top of that, there are Figure & Table numbers missing.

... eeeemmm ... what exactly did you do with this beta?

May I suggest reverting to the previous version until so critical
issues are solved? (People should be free to use
--context=experimental to help you discover other problems.)

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> May I suggest reverting to the previous version until so critical
> issues are solved?

Well ... I'm simply grateful for having MKII-compatible documents in
such cases ... :)

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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 17:04, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>> May I suggest reverting to the previous version until so critical
>> issues are solved?
>
> Well ... I'm simply grateful for having MKII-compatible documents in
> such cases ... :)

Arghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

Not even MKII works now. The first run is successfull:

pdfTeX warning: pdftex: no GlyphToUnicode entry has been inserted yet!
Output written on seminar-simetrije.pdf (34 pages, 2439864 bytes).
SyncTeX written on seminar-simetrije.synctex.gz
Transcript written on seminar-simetrije.log.
TeXUtil | parsing file seminar-simetrije.tui

but then the second run gives me

...
floatblocks     : order disturbed
floatblocks     : 31 placed
structure       : end of sectionblock appendices
[33.32] (./seminar-simetrije.tuo) (./seminar-simetrije.tuo
! Improper alphabetic constant.
<to be read again>
                   \bi
<argument> \ifnum `\bi
                       =255 32\else `\bi \fi
\utfdiv #1->\the \numexpr \ifcase \numexpr #1
                                             \relax 0\else (#1-\utf@g )/\utf...

\PDFunicodechar ...bers \@EA {\number \utfdiv {#1}
                                                  }\@EA \lchexnumbers \@EA {...

\nodoPDFuni ...ar {\ifnum `#1=255 32\else `#1\fi }
                                                  \doPDFuni
\bookmarktext ->\unicodechar {65279}$\bi
                                         sp$?--?linearna?hibridizacija
...
l.77 ...tna hibridizacija}{2--0-0-6-1-2-0-0--8}{9}
                                                  %
?

In the source I have

\def\naslovhib#1#2{\subsubsection{$\bi#1$ -- #2 hibridizacija}}

Which I call as: \naslovhib{sp}{linearna}


Apart from that I get some weird messages like

references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>16/2]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>22/3]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>29/4]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>33/5]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>64/6]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>75/7]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>93/8]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>117/9]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>135/10]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>143/11]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>153/12]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>161/13]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>172/14]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>179/15]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>188/16]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>199/17]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>214/18]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>219/19]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>232/20]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>237/21]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>251/22]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>265/23]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>276/24]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>298/25]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>323/26]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>333/27]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>340/28]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>350/29]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>359/30]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>368/31]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>378/32]
references      : duplicate object [FDF colorspaces=>383/33]

Thanks a lot,
   Mojca
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 1-12-2010 5:13, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 17:04, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>> May I suggest reverting to the previous version until so critical
>>> issues are solved?
>>
>> Well ... I'm simply grateful for having MKII-compatible documents in
>> such cases ... :)
>
> Arghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
>
> Not even MKII works now. The first run is successfull:
>
> pdfTeX warning: pdftex: no GlyphToUnicode entry has been inserted yet!
> Output written on seminar-simetrije.pdf (34 pages, 2439864 bytes).
> SyncTeX written on seminar-simetrije.synctex.gz
> Transcript written on seminar-simetrije.log.
> TeXUtil | parsing file seminar-simetrije.tui
>
> but then the second run gives me
>
> ....
> floatblocks     : order disturbed
> floatblocks     : 31 placed
> structure       : end of sectionblock appendices
> [33.32] (./seminar-simetrije.tuo) (./seminar-simetrije.tuo
> ! Improper alphabetic constant.
> <to be read again>
>                     \bi
> <argument>  \ifnum `\bi

hm, I didn't touch mkii at all ... probably some fancy expansion in 
bookmarks

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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 17:25, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 1-12-2010 5:13, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>> [33.32] (./seminar-simetrije.tuo) (./seminar-simetrije.tuo
>> ! Improper alphabetic constant.
>> <to be read again>
>>                    \bi
>> <argument>  \ifnum `\bi
>
> hm, I didn't touch mkii at all ... probably some fancy expansion in
> bookmarks

I don't claim that I have tested MKII after changing titles into something like
    \subsubsection{$\bi sp^2$ hibridisation}

If I knew how to switch to bold math properly, I could avoid using \bi
(which I should do in any case anyway), but \bi was the fastest hack I
could come up with quickly.

I suggest that once the other more urgest MKIV-related issues are
resolved ... to take a quick look into this as well. Tuo file says:

\listentry{subsubsection}{17}{}{$\bi sp$ -- linearna
hibridizacija}{2--0-0-6-1-1-0-0--8}{9}%

And I suspect that this breaks.

But please fix the MKIV issues first since they are all pretty serious.

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Re: beta

[Arthur Reutenauer]

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> \starttext
> \starttable[|c|c|]
> \VL a \VL b \VL\AR
> \stoptable
> \stoptext

  Confirmed on my machine.

	Arthur

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% engine=luatex
\starttext
\starttable[|c|c|]
\VL a \VL b \VL\AR
\stoptable
\stoptext

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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 01.12.2010 um 17:03 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

> ... eeeemmm ... what exactly did you do with this beta?

Lucky you, i can’t even run context without a fatal error like this:

meta:TeX wolf$ context test

MTXrun | run 1: luatex --fmt="/Users/wolf/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/4cb9847104eb57f481b5488a9b057c50/formats/cont-en" --lua="/Users/wolf/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/4cb9847104eb57f481b5488a9b057c50/formats/cont-en.lui" --backend=pdf "./test"This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.64.0-2010111215 
 \write18 enabled.
This went wrong: ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/data-tex.lua:84: attempt to get length of local 'lines' (a nil value)
.
<insert>  
          
<*> ./test
          
? 

And my test file to get this is only:

\starttext
text
\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: beta

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Wednesday 01 December 2010 17:39:54 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 01.12.2010 um 17:03 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
> > ... eeeemmm ... what exactly did you do with this beta?
> 
> Lucky you, i can’t even run context without a fatal error like this:
> 
> meta:TeX wolf$ context test
> 
> MTXrun | run 1: luatex
> --fmt="/Users/wolf/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/4cb9847104
> eb57f481b5488a9b057c50/formats/cont-en"
> --lua="/Users/wolf/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/4cb9847104
> eb57f481b5488a9b057c50/formats/cont-en.lui" --backend=pdf "./test"This is
> LuaTeX, Version beta-0.64.0-2010111215 \write18 enabled.
> This went wrong:
> ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/data-tex.lua:84: attempt to get
> length of local 'lines' (a nil value) .
> <insert>
> 
> <*> ./test
> 
> ?
> 
> And my test file to get this is only:
> 
> \starttext
> text
> \stoptext

And, with
\component myfile
I get:

! LuaTeX error ...beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/data-tex.lua:84: 
attempt to get length of local 'lines' (a nil value).
<insert>  
          
<to be read again> 
                   \relax 
l.1 \input ./myfile\relax
                                            
\processfile ...txlua {commands.processfile("#1")}
                                                  
\doexecutefile ...rttextfile {#1}\processfile {#1}
                                                  \dostoptextfile 
\registerf...
l.101 ...    \component  myfile
 

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 1-12-2010 5:03, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 16:54, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>> Hans,
>>
>> something with tables is horribly horribly broken. I get a number 4
>> instead of vertical line all over the place.

Normally something like is not that horrible and easy to fix (parameter 
passing problem or so); keep in mind that I merged all the table code 
and added color (because someone wanted it) and kept the module. That 
comes with a temporary price. Believe me, there are other areas where 
things can fail -)

new beta on the ftp server

>> I'm trying to prepare a minimal example.
>
> \starttext
> \starttable[|c|c|]
> \VL a \VL b \VL\AR
> \stoptable
> \stoptext

it's a side effect of new functionality and calling the wrong old code 
for rules ... i pruned some more so now this works ok

\starttext
     \starttable[|c|c|]
     \VL a \VL[50]     b \VL\AR
     \VL a \VL[red,10] b \VL\AR
     \VL a \VL         b \VL\AR
     \stoptable
\stoptext



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Re: beta

[Leo Razoumov]

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:10, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
> new beta on the ftp server
>

With such a fast changing codebase would it be possible to set up a
SCM repository to track ConTeXt beta development. GIT/HG/SVN would do
it. With revision control one can at least roll back changes that are
broken.

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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 22:06, Leo Razoumov wrote:
>
> With such a fast changing codebase would it be possible to set up a
> SCM repository to track ConTeXt beta development. GIT/HG/SVN would do
> it. With revision control one can at least roll back changes that are
> broken.

See at least
   http://gitorious.org/context/context

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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Mojca Miklavec
<mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 22:06, Leo Razoumov wrote:
> >
> > With such a fast changing codebase would it be possible to set up a
> > SCM repository to track ConTeXt beta development. GIT/HG/SVN would do
> > it. With revision control one can at least roll back changes that are
> > broken.
>
> See at least
>   http://gitorious.org/context/context

and Patrick's git repo (which I use for the context minimals package
on Arch Linux)

http://dl.contextgarden.net/distribution/git/

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Re: beta

[Leo Razoumov]

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 22:58, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Mojca Miklavec
> <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 22:06, Leo Razoumov wrote:
>> >
>> > With such a fast changing codebase would it be possible to set up a
>> > SCM repository to track ConTeXt beta development. GIT/HG/SVN would do
>> > it. With revision control one can at least roll back changes that are
>> > broken.
>>
>> See at least
>>   http://gitorious.org/context/context
>
> and Patrick's git repo (which I use for the context minimals package
> on Arch Linux)
>
> http://dl.contextgarden.net/distribution/git/
>
> Aditya
> ___________________________________________________________________________________

Mojca, Aditya
thanks for your replies.
http://dl.contextgarden.net/distribution/git/  is hopelessly out of
date. The latest commit is 2010-05-28.
But http://gitorious.org/context/context  is  current (thanks Mojca!)

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Re: beta

[Florian Wobbe]

On Dec 1, 2010, at 22:25 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 22:06, Leo Razoumov wrote:
>> 
>> With such a fast changing codebase would it be possible to set up a
>> SCM repository to track ConTeXt beta development. GIT/HG/SVN would do
>> it. With revision control one can at least roll back changes that are
>> broken.
> 
> See at least
>   http://gitorious.org/context/context

Great, I didn't know about that! It would be helpful, though, if the git repository included a complete multi-architecture beta with all extras (fonts, modules). Then, we could easily copy this as a portable application on a USB flash drive.

Martin, would you be willing to alter your perl script to include executables and extra modules? Maybe it is useful to put the executables in individual git repositories. I use the following bash script to update everything:

#########

TARGET=$HOME/context-beta
ARCHS="cygwin freebsd-amd64 freebsd kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 linux-64 linux-ppc linux mswin osx-64 osx-intel osx-ppc osx-universal solaris-intel solaris-sparc"

test -d ${TARGET} || mkdir ${TARGET}

# sync platform independent files
rsync -rpztlv --delete contextgarden.net::"minimals/current/base/*/ minimals/current/fonts/*/ minimals/current/misc/web2c" "${TARGET}/texmf"
rsync -rpztlv contextgarden.net::minimals/current/misc/setuptex/ "${TARGET}/"
#rsync -rpztlv --delete contextgarden.net::"minimals/current/context/current/ minimals/current/context/img/" "${TARGET}/texmf-context"
rsync -rpztlv --delete contextgarden.net::"minimals/current/context/beta/ minimals/current/context/img/ minimals/current/modules/*/" "${TARGET}/texmf-context"

# sync manpages
rsync -rpztlv --delete contextgarden.net::"minimals/current/bin/man/man" "${TARGET}/texmf-common"

# sync precompiled software for each architecture
for ARCH in $ARCHS; do
  rsync -rpztlv --delete contextgarden.net::"minimals/current/bin/*/${ARCH}/" "${TARGET}/texmf-${ARCH}"
  # copy mtxrun.lua (is this really necessary?!)
  rsync -tgov --chmod=a+x "${TARGET}/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtxrun.lua" "${TARGET}/texmf-${ARCH}/bin/mtxrun"
  # create link to common manpages
  ln -s ../texmf-common/man "${TARGET}/texmf-${ARCH}/man"
done

#########

Then all you have to do is to run

PATH=${TARGET}/texmf-${PLATFORM}/bin:$PATH mtxrun --tree="${TARGET}" --generate

and remake the formats for MKIV, MKII, ... to obtain a complete working context minimals beta.

Best wishes,
Florian

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Re: beta

[Alan BRASLAU]

backgroundscreen is broken. minimal example:

\starttext
\setupbackgrounds [page] [background=screen,backgroundscreen=.65]
Some text.
\stoptext





! LuaTeX error <main ctx instance>:1: unexpected symbol near ')'.
\dosetrastercolor ..."_raster_",\@@rastervalue ))}
                                                  
\BeforeGroup ...medparameter \c!backgroundscreen }
                                                  \bgroup \aftergroup 
\After...
<argument> ...amedparameter \c!backgroundscreen ]{
                                                  \dofilledbox }
\secondoftwoarguments #1#2->#2
                              
\dodobackgroundbox ...urrentbackground \endcsname 
                                                  }}}\wd \extraframebox 
\zer...
\dododobackgroundbox ... \else \dodobackgroundbox 
                                                  \expandafter 
\dododobackgr...
...
l.6 \stoptext
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 14-12-2010 12:37, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> backgroundscreen is broken. minimal example:
>
> \starttext
> \setupbackgrounds [page] [background=screen,backgroundscreen=.65]
> Some text.
> \stoptext
>
>
>
>
>
> ! LuaTeX error<main ctx instance>:1: unexpected symbol near ')'.
> \dosetrastercolor ..."_raster_",\@@rastervalue ))}

one ) too many

(i'm moving some functions to the command namespace and it crept in)

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta (so the minimals will have it in about an hour):

- some cleanup at the lua end as side effect of documenting lua 
interfacing as part of writing the cld manual

- a couple of bug fixed in the lua code that crept in during some 
optimizations

- removal of some old lua code (not needed any more or replaced by 
better code)

- a couple of patches (or extensions) to macros (due to reports on the 
list); for instance, the HideLayer and VideLayer reference actions were 
never implemented; also, some animation code has been added (for WS)

- definitions like \definedfont[file:lbr.pfb] are ok now (remapped onto 
afm, a few line harmless extension)

- a replacement of the existing marking mechanism (as used for running 
headers and footers): less interference with typesetting as mark nodes 
are no longer part of the game; more robust synchronization of chained 
marks (sectioning); more robust handling of marking in columns and 
columnsets; experimental marking in arbitrary constructs (thomas might 
like that one); not all is tested but we have:

the usual marking: first, last, previous, current; these are strict in 
the sense that they take sectioning into account

some new, less strict marking: firstpage, lastpage, previouspage; these 
ignore sectioning related resets

some experimental methods: next, nextpage; these concern parts of 
paragraphs that end up on the next page, so limited lookahead (in there 
is interest we can make that full lookahead i.e. future marks)

the usual column related marking:

     \getmarking[chapter][first]/
     \getmarking[chapter][page][first]/
     \getmarking[chapter][column:first][first]/
     \getmarking[chapter][column:1][first]/
     \getmarking[chapter][1][first]

even more expermental:

   \definemarking[boxmark]

   \setbox0\ruledvbox{
     \marking[boxmark]{tufte} \input tufte \par
     \marking[boxmark]{ward}  \input ward  \par
   }

   \synchronizemarking[zerobox][0] \box0

   \getmarking[boxmark][zerobox][first]
   \getmarking[boxmark][zerobox][last]

anyhow, it might be that something is broken, but at least this 
implementation has more potential

- the properties mechanism is obsolete and replaced by three mechanism 
that used them (originally properties dealt with specific engine/backend 
functionality); the most important ones are

\defineviewerlayer[name][options]
\startviewerlayer[name]....\stopviewerlayer
\viewerlayer[name]{...}

and

\defineeffect[name][options]
\starteffect[name]....\stopviewerlayer
\effect[name]{...}

where we have predefined (as with former properties):

\defineeffect [inner]   [alternative=inner,rulethickness=.25pt]
\defineeffect [outer]   [alternative=outer,rulethickness=.25pt]
\defineeffect [both]    [alternative=both, rulethickness=.25pt]
\defineeffect [normal]  [alternative=normal]
\defineeffect [hidden]  [alternative=hidden]
\defineeffect [stretch] [alternative=stretch,stretch=1]

the properties commands are still there but map onto these so older code 
should work ok (but somewhat less efficient)

Hans

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Re: beta

[views63]

Hi Hans,

The symbol of \int look the same not in \displaystyle with cambria

example:

\setupbodyfont[cambria]
\starttext
$\int_a^b=I$

\startformula%\displaystyle
\int_a^b=I
\stopformula
\stoptext

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Best Regards

Huang Ze

2010/11/13 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta (so the minimals will have it in about an hour):
>
> - some cleanup at the lua end as side effect of documenting lua interfacing
> as part of writing the cld manual
>
> - a couple of bug fixed in the lua code that crept in during some
> optimizations
>
> - removal of some old lua code (not needed any more or replaced by better
> code)
>
> - a couple of patches (or extensions) to macros (due to reports on the
> list); for instance, the HideLayer and VideLayer reference actions were
> never implemented; also, some animation code has been added (for WS)
>
> - definitions like \definedfont[file:lbr.pfb] are ok now (remapped onto afm,
> a few line harmless extension)
>
> - a replacement of the existing marking mechanism (as used for running
> headers and footers): less interference with typesetting as mark nodes are
> no longer part of the game; more robust synchronization of chained marks
> (sectioning); more robust handling of marking in columns and columnsets;
> experimental marking in arbitrary constructs (thomas might like that one);
> not all is tested but we have:
>
> the usual marking: first, last, previous, current; these are strict in the
> sense that they take sectioning into account
>
> some new, less strict marking: firstpage, lastpage, previouspage; these
> ignore sectioning related resets
>
> some experimental methods: next, nextpage; these concern parts of paragraphs
> that end up on the next page, so limited lookahead (in there is interest we
> can make that full lookahead i.e. future marks)
>
> the usual column related marking:
>
>    \getmarking[chapter][first]/
>    \getmarking[chapter][page][first]/
>    \getmarking[chapter][column:first][first]/
>    \getmarking[chapter][column:1][first]/
>    \getmarking[chapter][1][first]
>
> even more expermental:
>
>  \definemarking[boxmark]
>
>  \setbox0\ruledvbox{
>    \marking[boxmark]{tufte} \input tufte \par
>    \marking[boxmark]{ward}  \input ward  \par
>  }
>
>  \synchronizemarking[zerobox][0] \box0
>
>  \getmarking[boxmark][zerobox][first]
>  \getmarking[boxmark][zerobox][last]
>
> anyhow, it might be that something is broken, but at least this
> implementation has more potential
>
> - the properties mechanism is obsolete and replaced by three mechanism that
> used them (originally properties dealt with specific engine/backend
> functionality); the most important ones are
>
> \defineviewerlayer[name][options]
> \startviewerlayer[name]....\stopviewerlayer
> \viewerlayer[name]{...}
>
> and
>
> \defineeffect[name][options]
> \starteffect[name]....\stopviewerlayer
> \effect[name]{...}
>
> where we have predefined (as with former properties):
>
> \defineeffect [inner]   [alternative=inner,rulethickness=.25pt]
> \defineeffect [outer]   [alternative=outer,rulethickness=.25pt]
> \defineeffect [both]    [alternative=both, rulethickness=.25pt]
> \defineeffect [normal]  [alternative=normal]
> \defineeffect [hidden]  [alternative=hidden]
> \defineeffect [stretch] [alternative=stretch,stretch=1]
>
> the properties commands are still there but map onto these so older code
> should work ok (but somewhat less efficient)
>
> Hans
>
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Re: beta

[Li Yanrui (李延瑞)]

2010/11/13 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta (so the minimals will have it in about an hour):
>

The line 169 and 171 in strc-mar.lua exist typo. The 'setting' should
be 'settings'?

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 13-11-2010 2:10, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) wrote:
> 2010/11/13 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I uploaded a new beta (so the minimals will have it in about an hour):
>>
>
> The line 169 and 171 in strc-mar.lua exist typo. The 'setting' should
> be 'settings'?

ok, fixed in next beta

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Re: beta

[Erik Margraf]

[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4452 bytes --]

I get the following error message while running first-setup.sh:
------------
! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
<to be read again>
                   \relax
l.42 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}
-----------

Strange enough, I find it as
  ..../tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/catc-ini.mkiv

Anything I can do about that?

Regards
Erik

2010/11/12 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>

> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta (so the minimals will have it in about an hour):
>
> - some cleanup at the lua end as side effect of documenting lua interfacing
> as part of writing the cld manual
>
> - a couple of bug fixed in the lua code that crept in during some
> optimizations
>
> - removal of some old lua code (not needed any more or replaced by better
> code)
>
> - a couple of patches (or extensions) to macros (due to reports on the
> list); for instance, the HideLayer and VideLayer reference actions were
> never implemented; also, some animation code has been added (for WS)
>
> - definitions like \definedfont[file:lbr.pfb] are ok now (remapped onto
> afm, a few line harmless extension)
>
> - a replacement of the existing marking mechanism (as used for running
> headers and footers): less interference with typesetting as mark nodes are
> no longer part of the game; more robust synchronization of chained marks
> (sectioning); more robust handling of marking in columns and columnsets;
> experimental marking in arbitrary constructs (thomas might like that one);
> not all is tested but we have:
>
> the usual marking: first, last, previous, current; these are strict in the
> sense that they take sectioning into account
>
> some new, less strict marking: firstpage, lastpage, previouspage; these
> ignore sectioning related resets
>
> some experimental methods: next, nextpage; these concern parts of
> paragraphs that end up on the next page, so limited lookahead (in there is
> interest we can make that full lookahead i.e. future marks)
>
> the usual column related marking:
>
>    \getmarking[chapter][first]/
>    \getmarking[chapter][page][first]/
>    \getmarking[chapter][column:first][first]/
>    \getmarking[chapter][column:1][first]/
>    \getmarking[chapter][1][first]
>
> even more expermental:
>
>  \definemarking[boxmark]
>
>  \setbox0\ruledvbox{
>    \marking[boxmark]{tufte} \input tufte \par
>    \marking[boxmark]{ward}  \input ward  \par
>  }
>
>  \synchronizemarking[zerobox][0] \box0
>
>  \getmarking[boxmark][zerobox][first]
>  \getmarking[boxmark][zerobox][last]
>
> anyhow, it might be that something is broken, but at least this
> implementation has more potential
>
> - the properties mechanism is obsolete and replaced by three mechanism that
> used them (originally properties dealt with specific engine/backend
> functionality); the most important ones are
>
> \defineviewerlayer[name][options]
> \startviewerlayer[name]....\stopviewerlayer
> \viewerlayer[name]{...}
>
> and
>
> \defineeffect[name][options]
> \starteffect[name]....\stopviewerlayer
> \effect[name]{...}
>
> where we have predefined (as with former properties):
>
> \defineeffect [inner]   [alternative=inner,rulethickness=.25pt]
> \defineeffect [outer]   [alternative=outer,rulethickness=.25pt]
> \defineeffect [both]    [alternative=both, rulethickness=.25pt]
> \defineeffect [normal]  [alternative=normal]
> \defineeffect [hidden]  [alternative=hidden]
> \defineeffect [stretch] [alternative=stretch,stretch=1]
>
> the properties commands are still there but map onto these so older code
> should work ok (but somewhat less efficient)
>
> Hans
>
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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Erik Margraf wrote:

> I get the following error message while running first-setup.sh:
> ------------
> ! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
> <to be read again>
>                   \relax
> l.42 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}
> -----------
>
> Strange enough, I find it as
>  ..../tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/catc-ini.mkiv
>
> Anything I can do about that?

I had the same error. I am on linux-64 and the luatex binary in 
linux-64/bin did not have the execute permission set. So the wrong luatex 
was being used.

But I use mtx-update directly, so do not know if this is the same reason 
for the error in the minimals.

Aditya
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Re: beta

[Erik Margraf]

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Thanks! Seems, that this was the (same) reason.
I think I have now working minimals  2010.11.12 18:22

Kind regards
Erik

2010/11/14 Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>

> On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Erik Margraf wrote:
>
>  I get the following error message while running first-setup.sh:
>> ------------
>> ! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
>> <to be read again>
>>                  \relax
>> l.42 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}
>> -----------
>>
>> Strange enough, I find it as
>>  ..../tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/catc-ini.mkiv
>>
>> Anything I can do about that?
>>
>
> I had the same error. I am on linux-64 and the luatex binary in
> linux-64/bin did not have the execute permission set. So the wrong luatex
> was being used.
>
> But I use mtx-update directly, so do not know if this is the same reason
> for the error in the minimals.
>
> Aditya
>

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta:

- the usual fixes and extensions discussed on this list or within the 
dev group

- there is some more low level cleanup in the lua code (in the process 
of documenting cld handling)

- a few adaptions in the font loader (esp related to encodings cq. 
unicode, not that drastic but also a a prelude to some upcoming cleanup 
in luatex)

- a bit extended and sped up context.* commands as well as using this 
mechanism at the lua end

If no serious bugs / issues are reported there will be a new current 
pretty soon.

Hans

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta. This weeks undocumented feature:

\starttext

test \placefigure{}{}
test \placefigure[somewhere:alpha][whatever]{}{}
test \placefigure[somewhere:beta] [whatever]{}{}
test \placefigure[somewhere:gamma][whatever]{}{}
test \placefigure[somewhere:delta][whatever]{}{}
test \placefigure{}{}

in \in{figure}[whatever] bla bla

\placenamedfloat[figure][*l*]

\placenamedfloat[figure][gamma]
\placenamedfloat[figure][beta]

\stoptext

Experimental of course. Alan and I are discussing up some more clever 
mechanisms (follow up on conference chats) but this will probably stay.

Hans

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta. There have been some changes in the initial font 
loading code (mostly an experiment and hopefully compatible). The 
default load->cache method is unchanged (and tagged table') but you can 
configure others (given tat you run luatex 0.63)

There are three optional levels of intermediate garbage collection:

   \enabledirectives[fonts.otf.loader.cleanup=1] % true|false 1 2 3

The higher the number, the less memory is used (I'm preparing a chapter 
for hybrid.pdf that discusses these methods and gives some statistics). 
By default cleanup is turned off. Garbage collection efficiency differs 
per situation and is somewhat platform dependent.

There are three methods but only table and sparse make sense:

   \enabledirectives[fonts.otf.loader.method=table]
   \enabledirectives[fonts.otf.loader.method=mixed]
   \enabledirectives[fonts.otf.loader.method=sparse]

In some cases sparse might save a bit of memory but at the cost of 
runtime and even then it only concerns making a font cache-ready so in 
practice it is seldom needed to change the defaults.

Only mess around with these directives if you are convinced that it will 
improve your situation. As said, these are the results of an experiment 
so we keep them around.

If no serious problems are found in the beta I will release a current, 
so that we're nicely in sync with todays luatex beta.

Hans


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Re: beta

[Zhichu Chen]

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Works funny on my Lucida fonts, something about
=============================================
structure       : section @ level 3 : 0.0.9 -> References
define fonts    > font with name LucidaBright is not found
define fonts    > unknown font LucidaBright, loading aborted
define fonts    > unable to define LucidaBright as \*lucida8ptrmtfa*
=============================================
the funny part is, I can get the math symbols and the lucida bright fonts in
the
pdf file, but there're no bold, italic and small caps, and the whole
document
is using the same font size, the titles aren't enlarged.

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a beta. There have been some changes in the initial font loading
> code (mostly an experiment and hopefully compatible). The default
> load->cache method is unchanged (and tagged table') but you can configure
> others (given tat you run luatex 0.63)
>
> There are three optional levels of intermediate garbage collection:
>
>  \enabledirectives[fonts.otf.loader.cleanup=1] % true|false 1 2 3
>
> The higher the number, the less memory is used (I'm preparing a chapter for
> hybrid.pdf that discusses these methods and gives some statistics). By
> default cleanup is turned off. Garbage collection efficiency differs per
> situation and is somewhat platform dependent.
>
> There are three methods but only table and sparse make sense:
>
>  \enabledirectives[fonts.otf.loader.method=table]
>  \enabledirectives[fonts.otf.loader.method=mixed]
>  \enabledirectives[fonts.otf.loader.method=sparse]
>
> In some cases sparse might save a bit of memory but at the cost of runtime
> and even then it only concerns making a font cache-ready so in practice it
> is seldom needed to change the defaults.
>
> Only mess around with these directives if you are convinced that it will
> improve your situation. As said, these are the results of an experiment so
> we keep them around.
>
> If no serious problems are found in the beta I will release a current, so
> that we're nicely in sync with todays luatex beta.
>
> Hans
>
>
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 10-9-2010 5:58, Zhichu Chen wrote:
> Works funny on my Lucida fonts, something about
> =============================================
> structure       : section @ level 3 : 0.0.9 ->  References
> define fonts>  font with name LucidaBright is not found
> define fonts>  unknown font LucidaBright, loading aborted
> define fonts>  unable to define LucidaBright as \*lucida8ptrmtfa*
> =============================================
> the funny part is, I can get the math symbols and the lucida bright fonts in
> the
> pdf file, but there're no bold, italic and small caps, and the whole
> document
> is using the same font size, the titles aren't enlarged.

That's type one fonts isn't it? I didn't touch that afaik. Anyhow, no 
test file .. no real answer. There are too many lucida variants around 
to make a guess what happens.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Zhichu Chen]

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My apology. I attach the test file here and hope that's gonna help.
I extract everything from the font package to
$texmf-fonts/fonts/data/bh/lucida
and that's it.

Maybe it happened a long time ago and I hadn't noticed that. But
I'm still concerned about the messages in the log file, like
=========================
forced type afm of stmary10 not found
=========================
and how come luatex wanna
=========================
define LucidaBright as \*lucida12ptrmtf*
=========================

Anyway, it's type1 fonts.

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

>
> That's type one fonts isn't it? I didn't touch that afaik. Anyhow, no test
> file .. no real answer. There are too many lucida variants around to make a
> guess what happens.
>
>
> Hans
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 10-9-2010 10:43, Zhichu Chen wrote:
> My apology. I attach the test file here and hope that's gonna help.
> I extract everything from the font package to
> $texmf-fonts/fonts/data/bh/lucida
> and that's it.

works ok here

did you run mtxrun --generate etc?

Hans


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Re: beta

[Zhichu Chen]

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On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> On 10-9-2010 10:43, Zhichu Chen wrote:
>
>> My apology. I attach the test file here and hope that's gonna help.
>> I extract everything from the font package to
>> $texmf-fonts/fonts/data/bh/lucida
>> and that's it.
>>
>
> works ok here
>
> did you run mtxrun --generate etc?

Yes, I did. But weird thing happened when I run the command manually again.
I
got the following message:
===============================
systems : begin file untitled-2.tex at line 3

{d:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/map/dvips/bh/lucida/lucida.map}

fontnames > font database does not match configuration and file hashes

fontnames > warnings are disabled (tracker 'fonts.warnings')

fontnames > identifying tree font files with suffix otf
===============================


>
>
> Hans
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Re: beta

[Zhichu Chen]

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Fine, I see what's the problem: I can't find my fonts.

I run
mtxrun --script fonts --reload
and
luatools AdobeSongStd-Light.otf
get
d:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/opentype/public/Adobe/AdobeSongStd-Light.otf
But when I run
mtxrun --script fonts --list --file Adobe
I get nothing ironically.

Did I miss something? I've put the texmfcnf.lua under texmf/web2c.

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Zhichu Chen <zhichu.chen@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
>> On 10-9-2010 10:43, Zhichu Chen wrote:
>>
>>> My apology. I attach the test file here and hope that's gonna help.
>>> I extract everything from the font package to
>>> $texmf-fonts/fonts/data/bh/lucida
>>> and that's it.
>>>
>>
>> works ok here
>>
>> did you run mtxrun --generate etc?
>
> Yes, I did. But weird thing happened when I run the command manually again.
> I
> got the following message:
> ===============================
> systems : begin file untitled-2.tex at line 3
>
> {d:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/map/dvips/bh/lucida/lucida.map}
>
> fontnames > font database does not match configuration and file hashes
>
> fontnames > warnings are disabled (tracker 'fonts.warnings')
>
> fontnames > identifying tree font files with suffix otf
> ===============================
>
>

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 12-9-2010 8:52, Zhichu Chen wrote:
> Fine, I see what's the problem: I can't find my fonts.
>
> I run
> mtxrun --script fonts --reload
> and
> luatools AdobeSongStd-Light.otf
> get
> d:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/opentype/public/Adobe/AdobeSongStd-Light.otf
> But when I run
> mtxrun --script fonts --list --file Adobe

--pattern=*adobe*

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Re: beta

[Li Yanrui (李延瑞)]

2010/9/12 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> On 12-9-2010 8:52, Zhichu Chen wrote:
>>
>> Fine, I see what's the problem: I can't find my fonts.
>>
>> I run
>> mtxrun --script fonts --reload
>> and
>> luatools AdobeSongStd-Light.otf
>> get
>>
>> d:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/opentype/public/Adobe/AdobeSongStd-Light.otf
>> But when I run
>> mtxrun --script fonts --list --file Adobe
>
> --pattern=*adobe*
>

However `mtxrun --script fonts --list --pattern=*` command can not
work now at least for the beta 2010.09.09 in linux x86. It gives the
error:

...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otp.lua:512: attempt
to call field 'register' (a nil value)

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 12-9-2010 1:01, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) wrote:
> 2010/9/12 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>:
>> On 12-9-2010 8:52, Zhichu Chen wrote:
>>>
>>> Fine, I see what's the problem: I can't find my fonts.
>>>
>>> I run
>>> mtxrun --script fonts --reload
>>> and
>>> luatools AdobeSongStd-Light.otf
>>> get
>>>
>>> d:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/opentype/public/Adobe/AdobeSongStd-Light.otf
>>> But when I run
>>> mtxrun --script fonts --list --file Adobe
>>
>> --pattern=*adobe*
>>
>
> However `mtxrun --script fonts --list --pattern=*` command can not
> work now at least for the beta 2010.09.09 in linux x86. It gives the
> error:
>
> ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otp.lua:512: attempt
> to call field 'register' (a nil value)

not in the latest beta

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Re: beta

[views63]

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Hi,

I found an issues with the symbol of integral and its lower limit and
upper limit

example:

\definetypeface [mainface] [mm] [math] [palatino] [default][encoding=texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[mainface,rm,12pt]
\starttext
$\int_a^b f(x)\,{\rm d}x=I$
\stoptext

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2010/9/10 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a beta. There have been some changes in the initial font loading
> code (mostly an experiment and hopefully compatible). The default
> load->cache method is unchanged (and tagged table') but you can configure
> others (given tat you run luatex 0.63)
>
> There are three optional levels of intermediate garbage collection:
>
>  \enabledirectives[fonts.otf.loader.cleanup=1] % true|false 1 2 3
>
> The higher the number, the less memory is used (I'm preparing a chapter for
> hybrid.pdf that discusses these methods and gives some statistics). By
> default cleanup is turned off. Garbage collection efficiency differs per
> situation and is somewhat platform dependent.
>
> There are three methods but only table and sparse make sense:
>
>  \enabledirectives[fonts.otf.loader.method=table]
>  \enabledirectives[fonts.otf.loader.method=mixed]
>  \enabledirectives[fonts.otf.loader.method=sparse]
>
> In some cases sparse might save a bit of memory but at the cost of runtime
> and even then it only concerns making a font cache-ready so in practice it
> is seldom needed to change the defaults.
>
> Only mess around with these directives if you are convinced that it will
> improve your situation. As said, these are the results of an experiment so
> we keep them around.
>
> If no serious problems are found in the beta I will release a current, so
> that we're nicely in sync with todays luatex beta.
>
> Hans
>
>
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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

On 09/10/2010 07:14 AM, views63 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I found an issues with the symbol of integral and its lower limit and
> upper limit

This appears related to the operator script placement fix I did in
luatex for Cambria Math. Hans, you already patch the lm math
somewhere for the displaystyle \int's etc, I think. With 0.63.0,
you have to the same for the non-display glyphs.

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta. There have been quite some changes in the lua code, 
not so much in terms of functionality but in organization (a first step 
to a more formal api). So, if you use calls to functions in mkiv, you 
might need to check it.

There have been some extensions but those will become available when the 
next luatex release happens.

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

On 3 sept. 2010, at 11:25, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a beta. There have been quite some changes in the lua code, not so much in terms of functionality but in organization (a first step to a more formal api). So, if you use calls to functions in mkiv, you might need to check it.
> 
> There have been some extensions but those will become available when the next luatex release happens.
> 
> Hans
> 

Dear Hans, dear Mojca,

In order to test the new release, I just updated to the new beta through the minimals, but after that I get still the same ConTeXt version, that is
ConTeXt version 2010.08.20 00:00
LuaTeX version 62, LuaTeX revision 0, (LuaTeX date stamp 2010081520).

Since we had such a weird behavior sometime ago, I wonder whether something is going wrong with the updating procedure.

This said, I am very happy with the version I have… I wanted just to let you know about a possible issue: there is no complain at all!

With my best regards: OK

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Re: beta

[Vnpenguin]

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 16:41, Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Dear Hans, dear Mojca,
>
> In order to test the new release, I just updated to the new beta through the minimals, but after that I get still the same ConTeXt version, that is
> ConTeXt version 2010.08.20 00:00

The same here (WinXP).
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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta. This is a prelude to an end-of-the-month current that 
will be released along with luatex 0.61.

This release supports tagged pdf, but it will go unnoticed if you don't 
have full acrobat. Tagging is enabled with:

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

Dear Hans,

I updated my minimal installation, but noticed that since the end of last June I get the same version: after any updating, upon doing
context --version
I get:

MTXrun | main context file: /context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
MTXrun | current version: 2010.06.23 12:45

Maybe have you changed the way the versions are numbered, but I wanted to make sure whether this is is normal or not.

However I should say that everything works fine and as expected.

With my best regards: OK
  
On 22 juil. 2010, at 15:40, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a beta. This is a prelude to an end-of-the-month current that will be released along with luatex 0.61.
> 
> This release supports tagged pdf, but it will go unnoticed if you don't have full acrobat. Tagging is enabled with:
> 
> \setupstructure[state=start]
> 
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> 
> Hans
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Re: beta

[Vedran Miletić]

2010/7/22 Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com>:
> Dear Hans,
>
> I updated my minimal installation, but noticed that since the end of last June I get the same version: after any updating, upon doing
> context --version
> I get:
>
> MTXrun | main context file: /context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
> MTXrun | current version: 2010.06.23 12:45
>
> Maybe have you changed the way the versions are numbered, but I wanted to make sure whether this is is normal or not.
>
> However I should say that everything works fine and as expected.
>
> With my best regards: OK

Same here. Perhaps Mojca is busy and minimals didn't get updated.

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 22-7-2010 5:07, Vedran Miletić wrote:
> 2010/7/22 Otared Kavian<otared@gmail.com>:
>> Dear Hans,
>>
>> I updated my minimal installation, but noticed that since the end of last June I get the same version: after any updating, upon doing
>> context --version
>> I get:
>>
>> MTXrun | main context file: /context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
>> MTXrun | current version: 2010.06.23 12:45
>>
>> Maybe have you changed the way the versions are numbered, but I wanted to make sure whether this is is normal or not.
>>
>> However I should say that everything works fine and as expected.
>>
>> With my best regards: OK
>
> Same here. Perhaps Mojca is busy and minimals didn't get updated.

\edef\contextversion{2010.07.22 15:19}

zip on the website, synced each hour on the garden

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Hans,

Thanks for your attention.
I looked in context.tex after updating and I do have
\edef\contextversion{2010.06.23 12:45}

Does this mean that somehow context.tex is not updated? The file on the minimal is indeed created on
Wednsday June 23, 2010, at 12:45

Best regards: OK

On 22 juil. 2010, at 17:14, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 22-7-2010 5:07, Vedran Miletić wrote:
>> 2010/7/22 Otared Kavian<otared@gmail.com>:
>>> Dear Hans,
>>> 
>>> I updated my minimal installation, but noticed that since the end of last June I get the same version: after any updating, upon doing
>>> context --version
>>> I get:
>>> 
>>> MTXrun | main context file: /context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
>>> MTXrun | current version: 2010.06.23 12:45
>>> 
>>> Maybe have you changed the way the versions are numbered, but I wanted to make sure whether this is is normal or not.
>>> 
>>> However I should say that everything works fine and as expected.
>>> 
>>> With my best regards: OK
>> 
>> Same here. Perhaps Mojca is busy and minimals didn't get updated.
> 
> \edef\contextversion{2010.07.22 15:19}
> 
> zip on the website, synced each hour on the garden
> 
> Hans
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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Jul 22, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

> Hi Hans,
> 
> Thanks for your attention.
> I looked in context.tex after updating and I do have
> \edef\contextversion{2010.06.23 12:45}
> 
> Does this mean that somehow context.tex is not updated? The file on the minimal is indeed created on
> Wednsday June 23, 2010, at 12:45
> 
> Best regards: OK

FYI: I observed the same behavior and fetched the new beta manually this afternoon. 

Thomas
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 22-7-2010 5:33, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
> On Jul 22, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:
>
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> Thanks for your attention.
>> I looked in context.tex after updating and I do have
>> \edef\contextversion{2010.06.23 12:45}
>>
>> Does this mean that somehow context.tex is not updated? The file on the minimal is indeed created on
>> Wednsday June 23, 2010, at 12:45
>>
>> Best regards: OK
>
> FYI: I observed the same behavior and fetched the new beta manually this afternoon.


strange, when i fetch the zip from the website it has a context.tex of july

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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Jul 22, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 22-7-2010 5:33, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Hans,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your attention.
>>> I looked in context.tex after updating and I do have
>>> \edef\contextversion{2010.06.23 12:45}
>>> 
>>> Does this mean that somehow context.tex is not updated? The file on the minimal is indeed created on
>>> Wednsday June 23, 2010, at 12:45
>>> 
>>> Best regards: OK
>> 
>> FYI: I observed the same behavior and fetched the new beta manually this afternoon.
> 
> 
> strange, when i fetch the zip from the website it has a context.tex of july
> 
Yes, but what people are referring to is: running first-setup.sh in the minimals, which will then run

mtxrun --verbose --script ./bin/mtx-update.lua --update --make --force --engine=all --context=beta --platform=$platform --texroot=$PWD/tex $@

used to fetch the latest beta automatically, but it doesn't any longer.

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 22-7-2010 5:23, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> Thanks for your attention.
> I looked in context.tex after updating and I do have
> \edef\contextversion{2010.06.23 12:45}
>
> Does this mean that somehow context.tex is not updated? The file on the minimal is indeed created on
> Wednsday June 23, 2010, at 12:45

strange

Hans

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Re: beta

[Vnpenguin]

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 17:23, Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> Thanks for your attention.
> I looked in context.tex after updating and I do have
> \edef\contextversion{2010.06.23 12:45}
>
> Does this mean that somehow context.tex is not updated? The file on the minimal is indeed created on
> Wednsday June 23, 2010, at 12:45
>
> Best regards: OK
>
> On 22 juil. 2010, at 17:14, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> On 22-7-2010 5:07, Vedran Miletić wrote:
>>> 2010/7/22 Otared Kavian<otared@gmail.com>:
>>>> Dear Hans,
>>>>
>>>> I updated my minimal installation, but noticed that since the end of last June I get the same version: after any updating, upon doing
>>>> context --version
>>>> I get:
>>>>
>>>> MTXrun | main context file: /context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
>>>> MTXrun | current version: 2010.06.23 12:45
>>>>
>>>> Maybe have you changed the way the versions are numbered, but I wanted to make sure whether this is is normal or not.
>>>>
>>>> However I should say that everything works fine and as expected.
>>>>
>>>> With my best regards: OK
>>>
>>> Same here. Perhaps Mojca is busy and minimals didn't get updated.
>>
>> \edef\contextversion{2010.07.22 15:19}
>>
>> zip on the website, synced each hour on the garden
>>
>> Hans
>>

Since one week, I update my minimal ConTeXt almost everyday (Win32
version), but the version is alway the same:

E:\>context --version

MTXrun | main context file:
C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
MTXrun | current version: 2010.06.23 12:45
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 22-7-2010 5:34, Vnpenguin wrote:

> Since one week, I update my minimal ConTeXt almost everyday (Win32
> version), but the version is alway the same:

sure, as i didn't update context for a week

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Re: beta

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 22.07.2010 um 17:39 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> On 22-7-2010 5:34, Vnpenguin wrote:
> 
>> Since one week, I update my minimal ConTeXt almost everyday (Win32
>> version), but the version is alway the same:
> 
> sure, as i didn't update context for a week


this exchange you should be archieved in contextgarden's humor section ;o))

st.
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Re: beta

[Vedran Miletić]

2010/7/22 Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de>:
>
> Am 22.07.2010 um 17:39 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>
>> On 22-7-2010 5:34, Vnpenguin wrote:
>>
>>> Since one week, I update my minimal ConTeXt almost everyday (Win32
>>> version), but the version is alway the same:
>>
>> sure, as i didn't update context for a week
>
>
> this exchange you should be archieved in contextgarden's humor section ;o))
>

+1 :D

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Re: beta

[luigi scarso]

2010/7/23 Vedran Miletić <rivanvx@gmail.com>:
> 2010/7/22 Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de>:
>>
>> Am 22.07.2010 um 17:39 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>>
>>> On 22-7-2010 5:34, Vnpenguin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since one week, I update my minimal ConTeXt almost everyday (Win32
>>>> version), but the version is alway the same:
>>>
>>> sure, as i didn't update context for a week
>>
>>
>> this exchange you should be archieved in contextgarden's humor section ;o))
>>
>
> +1 :D
You all are presuming that Hans *always* in public announce a new release...

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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

On 22 juil. 2010, at 17:14, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
> \edef\contextversion{2010.07.22 15:19}
> 
> zip on the website, synced each hour on the garden
> 
> Hans

Hi,

After downloading the zipped files and making the formats « manually », I do get the new version:
ConTeXt version 2010.07.22 15:19

So this means that something has changed in first-setup.sh, and for some reason context.tex (and maybe a few other files…) are not thoroughly synched with the zip file on the Pragma's website.

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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi,

Otared Kavian wrote:
> 
> So this means that something has changed in first-setup.sh, and for some reason context.tex (and maybe a few other files…) are not thoroughly synched with the zip file on the Pragma's website.

The minimals do not sync from the public website but from an internal
server, and it turns out that the zip files on that machine are not
up to date yet. Hans is looking into it.

Best wishes,
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Re: beta

[Vnpenguin]

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 17:51, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Otared Kavian wrote:
>>
>> So this means that something has changed in first-setup.sh, and for some reason context.tex (and maybe a few other files…) are not thoroughly synched with the zip file on the Pragma's website.
>
> The minimals do not sync from the public website but from an internal
> server, and it turns out that the zip files on that machine are not
> up to date yet. Hans is looking into it.
>

Just update with first-setup.bat and I have version "2010.07.22 19:04"
of ConTeXt now :)

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Re: beta

[Vedran Miletić]

2010/7/22 Vnpenguin <vnpenguin@vnoss.org>:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 17:51, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Otared Kavian wrote:
>>>
>>> So this means that something has changed in first-setup.sh, and for some reason context.tex (and maybe a few other files…) are not thoroughly synched with the zip file on the Pragma's website.
>>
>> The minimals do not sync from the public website but from an internal
>> server, and it turns out that the zip files on that machine are not
>> up to date yet. Hans is looking into it.
>>
>
> Just update with first-setup.bat and I have version "2010.07.22 19:04"
> of ConTeXt now :)
>

Same here, great :-)

I also seem to be getting the error:

This is MetaPost, version 1.500 (kpathsea version 3.5.7dev)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/metafun.mp
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-base.mp
Preloading the plain mem file, version 0.63)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-tool.mp)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-spec.mp)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-core.mp)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-page.mp)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-text.mp)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-txts.mp)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-shap.mp)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-butt.mp)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-char.mp)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-step.mp)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-grph.mp)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-figs.mp)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-mlib.mp)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-grid.mp
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-form.mp
(/opt/context/tex/texmf/metapost/base/string.mp)
(/opt/context/tex/texmf/metapost/base/marith.mp
(/opt/context/tex/texmf/metapost/base/string.mp))))
(/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-func.mp) )
(end occurred when if on line 26 was incomplete)
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 22-7-2010 8:59, Vedran Miletić wrote:
> 2010/7/22 Vnpenguin<vnpenguin@vnoss.org>:
>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 17:51, Taco Hoekwater<taco@elvenkind.com>  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Otared Kavian wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So this means that something has changed in first-setup.sh, and for some reason context.tex (and maybe a few other files…) are not thoroughly synched with the zip file on the Pragma's website.
>>>
>>> The minimals do not sync from the public website but from an internal
>>> server, and it turns out that the zip files on that machine are not
>>> up to date yet. Hans is looking into it.
>>>
>>
>> Just update with first-setup.bat and I have version "2010.07.22 19:04"
>> of ConTeXt now :)
>>
>
> Same here, great :-)
>
> I also seem to be getting the error:
>
> This is MetaPost, version 1.500 (kpathsea version 3.5.7dev)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/metafun.mp
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-base.mp
> Preloading the plain mem file, version 0.63)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-tool.mp)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-spec.mp)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-core.mp)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-page.mp)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-text.mp)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-txts.mp)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-shap.mp)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-butt.mp)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-char.mp)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-step.mp)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-grph.mp)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-figs.mp)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-mlib.mp)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-grid.mp
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-form.mp
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf/metapost/base/string.mp)
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf/metapost/base/marith.mp
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf/metapost/base/string.mp))))
> (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-func.mp) )
> (end occurred when if on line 26 was incomplete)
> (see the transcript file for additional information)

you shouldn't run mp 1.5 as it's a quite experimental version, the 
prelude to 2.0; the error is probably related to the fact that formats 
are no longer dealt with in the same way

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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
> you shouldn't run mp 1.5 as it's a quite experimental version, the
> prelude to 2.0; the error is probably related to the fact that formats
> are no longer dealt with in the same way

I don't think minimal (beta) users have a choice in the matter
at the moment.

Best wishes,
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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi,

Hans Hagen wrote:
> the error is probably related to the fact that formats
> are no longer dealt with in the same way

Actually, this particular warning is a glitch in itself, it seems
a (quite harmless) case of forgetting to clear the condition state.

Nevertheless, there are numerous other problems with mpost 1.500
that I have already fixed, so I may well release 1.501 tomorrow
just to get rid of the most obnoxious bugs in 1.500.

A side note: besides the alpha state of the code, running mpost 1.500
to dump a mem file is pointless: all it does is generate a log file,
no actual mem file is created. This is by design:

  $ metafun myfile

if 'metafun' is a link to mpost version, simply loads 'metafun.mp'
as a preloaded source file instead of looking for an actual metafun.mem.

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 22-7-2010 9:47, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Hans Hagen wrote:
>> the error is probably related to the fact that formats
>> are no longer dealt with in the same way
>
> Actually, this particular warning is a glitch in itself, it seems
> a (quite harmless) case of forgetting to clear the condition state.
>
> Nevertheless, there are numerous other problems with mpost 1.500
> that I have already fixed, so I may well release 1.501 tomorrow
> just to get rid of the most obnoxious bugs in 1.500.
>
> A side note: besides the alpha state of the code, running mpost 1.500
> to dump a mem file is pointless: all it does is generate a log file,
> no actual mem file is created. This is by design:
>
>    $ metafun myfile
>
> if 'metafun' is a link to mpost version, simply loads 'metafun.mp'
> as a preloaded source file instead of looking for an actual metafun.mem.

indeed, so normally it should not matter (i'm not sure if we have 
similar side effects as tex would have due to inimode and everyjob etc)

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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

2010/7/22 Vedran Miletić <rivanvx@gmail.com>:
>
> Same here. Perhaps Mojca is busy and minimals didn't get updated.

I was away and offline for a great deal of time in the last two weeks
(and I will probably keep being offline during the next days), but the
minimals should usually update automatically. (I need to catch up with
older emails; for some period of time I was only able to come online
using windows and I was not able to patch anything from there.)

It seems that the problem has been resolved by Hans now as I see that
    http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/context/beta/tex/context/base/context.tex
happily reports
    \edef\contextversion{2010.07.22 21:12}

Mojca
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 22-7-2010 5:03, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Dear Hans,
>
> I updated my minimal installation, but noticed that since the end of last June I get the same version: after any updating, upon doing
> context --version
> I get:
>
> MTXrun | main context file: /context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
> MTXrun | current version: 2010.06.23 12:45
>
> Maybe have you changed the way the versions are numbered, but I wanted to make sure whether this is is normal or not.

not that i know of (or i might have forgotten already)

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Re: beta

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Hi
>> Thanks!!!
>>
>> The fantastic thing about is that text created with this new macro is 
>> editable inside Acrobat! (While other options, e.g. font specs do not 
>> lead to this)
> You used the same font (e.g. Arial) in both tests? 

Arial too, but first of all Times New Roman.

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Re: beta

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Thanks!!!

The fantastic thing about is that text created with this new macro is 
editable inside Acrobat! (While other options, e.g. font specs do not 
lead to this)
> The latest beta has a few more fonts defined in type-otf.mkiv. YOu can 
> do things like
>
> \setupbodyfont[mscore,ss,10pt] 

Happy
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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 26.01.10 19:56, schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:
> Thanks!!!
>
> The fantastic thing about is that text created with this new macro is 
> editable inside Acrobat! (While other options, e.g. font specs do not 
> lead to this)
You used the same font (e.g. Arial) in both tests?

Wolfgang

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

The latest beta has a few more fonts defined in type-otf.mkiv. YOu can 
do things like

\setupbodyfont[mscore,ss,10pt]
\setupbodyfont[liberation,rm,10pt]

as mscore and liberations are yet unknown the related typescript will be 
loaded automatically (new feature).

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta. The most important new feature is that nested 
footnotes are working better now (like notes in tabulate). For the 
moment this is not enabled by default. Use

\automigrateinserts

if needed. Test case:

\chapter{What a notes \footnote{1} \footnote{2}
\footnote{3} \footnote{4} \footnote{5} \footnote{6}}

\starttabulate
\NC test \NC test \footnote{7} \input tufte \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \footnote{8} \input tufte \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \footnote{9} \input tufte \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \footnote{10} \input tufte \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \footnote{11} \input tufte \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \footnote{12} \input tufte \NC \NR
\stoptabulate

Of course this a mkiv-only feature. More control will be added later.

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[Hans Hagen]

I uploaded a beta with last days fixes; probably an updated current 
tomorrow.
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i uploaded a bet awidt a couple of structure fixes
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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta. Not that many fixes (if someone can collect structure 
related bugs ...), only a few.

For those who keep an eye on the source ... i'm rewriting ppchtex and it 
will be integral part of the core of mkiv (so that we have chemistry on 
board). It's not yet finished but i'm getting there.

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Re: beta

[Dohyun Kim]

2009/5/20 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a beta. Not that many fixes (if someone can collect structure
> related bugs ...), only a few.
>

Let me raise several issues about luatex-plain.

First, newly released beta breaks luatex-plain,
because "luat-sto.lua" is not included in luatex-fonts.lua.
Without this, luatex-plain fails when trying to define
"storage.shared.attributes_last_private".

Secondly, "name:" method of font searching does not work.
The reason is version mismatch between font-dum.lua and
luatex-fonts-names.lua.  The former requires "data.version == 1.07",
while the latter's version is 1.08, if it is generated with current beta.

Thirdly, some fonts have extension "TTF" rather than "ttf",
so that function "resolvers.find_file" fails while finding,
for example, gentium font (filename: GenR102.TTF).
Here is my patch:

- return kpse.find_file(name,(kind and kind ~= "" and (remapper[kind]
or kind)) or "tex")
+ return kpse.find_file(name,(kind and kind ~= "" and
(remapper[string.lower(kind)] or kind)) or "tex")

Lastly, current beta does not support subfonts contained in
TTC (truetype collection).  TTC fonts are becoming more and more
difficult to find, but we still can find them especially in CJK world.
It's quite simple to support them:
just commenting out three lines from font-dum.lua

-- function fonts.define.get_specification(str)
--     return "", str, "", ":", str
-- end

Thank you for your great work, as always.
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Dohyun Kim wrote:
> 2009/5/20 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I uploaded a beta. Not that many fixes (if someone can collect structure
>> related bugs ...), only a few.
>>
> 
> Let me raise several issues about luatex-plain.

thanks for the detailed report .. i'm at the ntg meeting today so will 
look into it tommorrow

Hans

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Re: beta

[Dohyun Kim]

2009/5/20 Dohyun Kim <nomosnomos@gmail.com>:
> Lastly, current beta does not support subfonts contained in
> TTC (truetype collection).  TTC fonts are becoming more and more
> difficult to find, but we still can find them especially in CJK world.
> It's quite simple to support them:
> just commenting out three lines from font-dum.lua
>
> -- function fonts.define.get_specification(str)
> --     return "", str, "", ":", str
> -- end
>

Additionally, to be able to access TTC subfonts with "name:" method,
a patch should be inserted into font-dum.lua as follows:

         if found then
             local filename, is_sub = found[3], found[4]
+	    if is_sub then is_sub = found[2] end
             return filename, is_sub
         else

Regards,
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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On May 20, 2009, at 12:13 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a beta. Not that many fixes (if someone can collect  
> structure related bugs ...), only a few.
>
> For those who keep an eye on the source ... i'm rewriting ppchtex  
> and it will be integral part of the core of mkiv (so that we have  
> chemistry on board). It's not yet finished but i'm getting there.
>
> Hans

OK, here is a collection of some assorted bugs. Most of them have been  
posted several times. Of course, everybody will have their own feeling  
of what is more and what is less urgent, but I will just add a few  
words about my own situation:

1. bib-module

\usemodule[bib]

\setuppublications
[refcommand=num,
numbering=yes]

\startpublication[k=bertellihecataeus,t=incollection,
a={{Bertelli}},y=2001,
n=1,s=Ber01]
\artauthor[]{Lucio}[L.]{}{Bertelli}
\pubyear{2001}
\arttitle{Hecataeus: From Genealogy to Historiography}
\editor[]{Nino}[N.]{}{Luraghi}
\crossref{luraghicraft}
\pages{67--94}
\pages{67--94}
\pubname{Oxford University Press}
\stoppublication

\startpublication[k=luraghihistorian,t=book,
a={{Luraghi}},y=2001,
n=2,s=Lur01a]
\editor[]{Nino}[N.]{}{Luraghi}
\pubyear{2001\maybeyear{a}}
\title{The Historian's Craft in the Age of Herodotus}
\city{Oxford}
\pubname{Oxford UP}
\stoppublication

\starttext

Citation: \cite[bertellihecataeus]

List:

\placepublications[criterium=all]

\stoptext

Taco's bib module does not work with the current beta. For me, this is  
a showstopper, I will have to give up on mkiv as long as this does not  
work.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

2. Section numbers in markings are duplicated

\setuphead
[section]
[page=yes,
style=normal]

\setupuserpagenumber[state=start,way=bysection]

\setupfootertexts[{\getmarking[sectionnumber]} – \userpagenumber]

\starttext

\section{One}

\input tufte

\page

\input linden

\section{Two}

\input bryson

\page

\input davis

\stoptext

Urgency=high, I use these markings in lots of documents.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

3. trep and tlig features don't work in node mode

\definefontfeature
   [mytest]
   [mode=node,script=latn,trep=yes,tlig=yes,kern=yes]

\starttypescript[serif][Test]
\definefontsynonym[Serif][name:texgyretermesregular][features=mytest]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[Test]
\definetypeface[Test][rm][serif][Test][default][features=mytest]
\stoptypescript

\usetypescript[Test]
\setupbodyfont[Test,12pt]

\starttext

fine's flops: 1 -- 2 --- 3

\stoptext

priority: medium for me (since it can be worked around, but still  
needs fixing)


%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

4. Spaces, esp. after periods

\font\one=cmr10
\font\two=file:texgyrepagella-regular

\bgroup

A A A

\primitive\sfcode`A=2000

A A A

\egroup

\bgroup\one

A A A

\primitive\sfcode`A=2000

A A A

\egroup

\bgroup\two

A A A

\primitive\sfcode`A=2000

A A A

\egroup

\bye


This test file has been given by Wolfgang Schuster a few days ago. It  
shows a problem that is especially annoying after periods because it  
disrupts frenchspacing/nonfrenchspacing. For me, very high priority  
because the quality of the output is severely reduced (with this bug,  
it would be impossible to typeset a book for publication with ConTeXt  
mkiv right now).

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

5. Labels

\definelabel[SlideNumber][headstyle=normal,way=bytext]

\starttext

\incrementSlideNumber \nextSlideNumber

\stoptext

Fails in current beta. For me, urgency=medium.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

6. Cross-references

\starttext

\startitemize[n]

\item[one] One

\item[two] Two

\item[three] Three

\stopitemize

As we can see in item \in[one] and \in[three].

\stoptext

Urgency=medium

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

7. Line breaks between quotation marks:

\setuplayout[width=3cm]

\starttext

\quotation{This is a \quote{test.}}

\stoptext

Urgency: low, but non-nil.

OK, this should be enough for the time being. For almost two weeks, I  
haven't been able to connect to the supelec website to bring my luatex  
to the latest version; is this a problem on my end, or is access to  
the svn repositories currently disabled?

Would be nice to hear about these bugs; some of the have been posted  
several times, but we never heard back about them.

All best

Thomas
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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> 
> 1. bib-module
> 
> Taco's bib module does not work with the current beta. For me, this is a 
> showstopper, I will have to give up on mkiv as long as this does not work.

I feel sorry for you, but I do not know what to do about it anymore.


>                                                For almost two weeks, I 
> haven't been able to connect to the supelec website to bring my luatex 
> to the latest version; is this a problem on my end, or is access to the 
> svn repositories currently disabled?

This post should explain the issue:

http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20090518.210735.77967964.en.html

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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

Hi Taco,

On May 21, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

>> 1. bib-module
>> Taco's bib module does not work with the current beta. For me, this  
>> is a showstopper, I will have to give up on mkiv as long as this  
>> does not work.
>
> I feel sorry for you, but I do not know what to do about it anymore.
>
Yes, in your recent mail (http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20090514.080826.d48ffa7a.en.html 
), you explained why the ball was in Hans's field now; let's hope he  
picks it up!
>
>>                                               For almost two weeks,  
>> I haven't been able to connect to the supelec website to bring my  
>> luatex to the latest version; is this a problem on my end, or is  
>> access to the svn repositories currently disabled?
>
> This post should explain the issue:
>
> http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20090518.210735.77967964.en.html
>
Ah thanks, that explains it!

All best

Thomas

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Re: beta

[Mohamed Bana]

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Taco, hi,
could you please include a feature that allows listing the set of pages that
an item was cited on, I'm sure this is present in LaTeX.

Mohamed

2009/5/21 Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com>

> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
>>
>> 1. bib-module
>>
>> Taco's bib module does not work with the current beta. For me, this is a
>> showstopper, I will have to give up on mkiv as long as this does not work.
>>
>
> I feel sorry for you, but I do not know what to do about it anymore.
>
>
>                                                For almost two weeks, I
>> haven't been able to connect to the supelec website to bring my luatex to
>> the latest version; is this a problem on my end, or is access to the svn
>> repositories currently disabled?
>>
>
> This post should explain the issue:
>
> http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20090518.210735.77967964.en.html
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco
>
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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

Mohamed Bana wrote:
> Taco, hi,
> could you please include a feature that allows listing the set of pages that
> an item was cited on, I'm sure this is present in LaTeX.

As I can't even get the core functionality working, this is a very
bad moment for feature requests, but I'll keep this in mind while
designing the new module.

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Re: beta

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Thursday 21 May 2009 12:17:50 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> > 1. bib-module
> >
> > Taco's bib module does not work with the current beta. For me, this is a
> > showstopper, I will have to give up on mkiv as long as this does not
> > work.
>
> I feel sorry for you, but I do not know what to do about it anymore.

I just tried commenting out
%\placeindex
and friends in my current book project
and compiled under mkiv.
I wish to report that the bib module gives empty references []
and a new first page of numbers appears
1 2 3 4 ...
(must be the lost reference numbers)

LuaTeX gives lots of warning messages, such as:
\placepublications[criterium=all]                                        
                                       LuaTeX warning (ext4): destination with 
the same identifier (name{Friedel1922}) has been already used, duplicate 
ignored


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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> 2. Section numbers in markings are duplicated

fixed in next beta (marks got a prefix)

> 3. trep and tlig features don't work in node mode

hm, i gave it another try ... also in next beta ... is  bit tricky as 
this is a feature that does not fall in some script/lang category (i'd 
put it in default (which works) but we need more

in node mode they are implemented by faking real features (a mechanism 
that was somewhat extended recently to support anum and pnum for arabic 
and persian numbering)

Hans


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Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> Would be nice to hear about these bugs; some of the have been posted 
> several times, but we never heard back about them.

weren't you going to make me a zip?


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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On May 27, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
>> Would be nice to hear about these bugs; some of the have been  
>> posted several times, but we never heard back about them.
>
> weren't you going to make me a zip?
>
Will do during the weekend. (I'm at a conference in Belgium right now.)

All best

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> 
> On May 27, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
>> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>>
>>> Would be nice to hear about these bugs; some of the have been posted 
>>> several times, but we never heard back about them.
>>
>> weren't you going to make me a zip?
>>
> Will do during the weekend. (I'm at a conference in Belgium right now.)

ok, have fun

btw, what happened with that plan for a meeting about this critical 
edition project -)

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

i uploaded a beta with some fixes

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Re: beta

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2009-05-11 um 11:14 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> i uploaded a beta with some fixes

Minimals have version 2009.05.11 10:51, is that the one?

The footnote bugs still remain in that (no marks, no "bypage").


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Re: beta

[Wei-Wei Guo]

Hans Hagen 写道:

> 
> i uploaded a beta with some fixes
> 

The following bug is still there.


! Argument of \dotripletestemptyx has an extra }.
<inserted text>
                 \par
<to be read again>
                    }
\doif #1#2->\edef \!!stringa {#1}
                                  \edef \!!stringb {#2}\ifx \!!stringa \!!str...
\dostructurecountercomponent ...\c!title }\v!none
                                                   {\setfalse \hasstructureco...
\docompletefloat ...c!title ={#4},\c!bookmark =][]
                                                   \globallet \currentfloatnu...
<argument> ...\footnote {Test footnote.}}\nextbox
                                                   \else \docompletefloat {ta...
...
l.12 {\placelocalfootnotes}


Example:


     \starttext

     \startlocalfootnotes
     \placetable{Test table\footnote{Test footnote.}}
     \placelegend{
     \starttable[|l|l|]
       \HL
       \NC East \NC North \NC \FR
       \NC West \NC South \NC  \LR
       \HL
     \stoptable}
     {\placelocalfootnotes}
     \stoplocalfootnotes

     \stoptext


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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta just before leaving for bachotek. Quite some structure 
(lua) code has been overhauled and i need to finish some bits.

I can probably fix urgent failures but real fixes have to wait till next 
week.

As I'm redoing the backend as well as cross referencing some interaction 
features might be broken but normally they are easy to fix (once i know 
what fails). So, best collect all bugs while i'm away so that i can deal 
with then at once.

Hans

Aditya ... math numbering formulas is somewhat broken but i'll fix asap; 
we will have multiple levels of numbering as well as captions for 
formulas that go to lists etc etc. For that i need to separate some code.


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Re: beta

[Wei-Wei Guo]

Hans Hagen 写道:
> 
> I uploaded a beta just before leaving for bachotek. Quite some structure 
> (lua) code has been overhauled and i need to finish some bits.
> 

Have fun!

> 
> As I'm redoing the backend as well as cross referencing some interaction 
> features might be broken but normally they are easy to fix (once i know 
> what fails). So, best collect all bugs while i'm away so that i can deal 
> with then at once.
> 

I got an error here.

     ! Argument of \dotripletestemptyx has an extra }.
     <inserted text>
                     \par
     <to be read again>
                        }
     \doif #1#2->\edef \!!stringa {#1}
                                      \edef \!!stringb {#2}\ifx \!!stringa \!!str...
     \dostructurecountercomponent ...\c!title }\v!none
                                                       {\setfalse \hasstructureco...
     \docompletefloat ...c!title ={#4},\c!bookmark =][]
                                                       \globallet \currentfloatnu...
     <argument> ...\footnote {Test footnote.}}\nextbox
                                                       \else \docompletefloat {ta...
     ...
     l.13 {\placelocalfootnotes}

Minimal example:

     \starttext

     \startlocalfootnotes
     \placetable{Test table\footnote{Test footnote.}}
     \placelegend{
     \starttable[|l|l|]
       \HL
       \NC East \NC North \NC \FR
       \NC West \NC South \NC  \LR
       \HL
     \stoptable}
     {\placelocalfootnotes}
     \stoplocalfootnotes

     \stoptext


2. And another thing I have mentioned before. I just want to arise your attention.

The underlines set by textbackground are not stable. Their vertical positions are
not predictable.

Minimal example:

     \startuseMPgraphic{mpos:par:columnset:textuline}
       \iftracepositions show_multi_pars \else draw_multi_pars \fi ;
       path p ; p := boundingbox currentpicture ;
       currentpicture := currentpicture shifted (0,0.1*StrutDepth) ;
       setbounds currentpicture to p ;
     \stopuseMPgraphic

     \definetextbackground
       [underline]
       [location=text,
        alternative=1,
        mp=mpos:par:columnset:textuline,
        background=,
        frame=off]

     \starttext

     \underline{blurblur}

     \underline{blurblur}

     \underline{blurblur}

     \underline{blurblur}

     \stoptext


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Re: beta

[Yanrui Li]

2009/4/28 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> As I'm redoing the backend as well as cross referencing some interaction
> features might be broken but normally they are easy to fix (once i know what
> fails). So, best collect all bugs while i'm away so that i can deal with
> then at once.
>

The numbering of footnotes are abnormal. Simple example:

\starttext
\chapter{T}
This is a test\footnote{t}.

\chapter{E}
This is a test\footnote{e}.

\chapter{S}
This is a test\footnote{s}.

\chapter{T}
This is a test\footnote{t}.
\stoptext

The numbering of four footnotes is "1.1", "2.2", "3.3", "4.4" respectively.

In addition, I am looking forward to having the numbering mechanism of
"bychapter" again, which I have descriped in
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/040203.html


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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Yanrui,

I tested your file and everything is correct here both with mkii and  
mkiv (ConTeXt  ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV  fmt: 2009.4.25  int:  
english/english).

Best regards: OK

On 29 avr. 09, at 16:00, Yanrui Li wrote:

> 2009/4/28 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
>> As I'm redoing the backend as well as cross referencing some  
>> interaction
>> features might be broken but normally they are easy to fix (once i  
>> know what
>> fails). So, best collect all bugs while i'm away so that i can deal  
>> with
>> then at once.
>>
>
> The numbering of footnotes are abnormal. Simple example:
>
> \starttext
> \chapter{T}
> This is a test\footnote{t}.
>
> \chapter{E}
> This is a test\footnote{e}.
>
> \chapter{S}
> This is a test\footnote{s}.
>
> \chapter{T}
> This is a test\footnote{t}.
> \stoptext
>
> The numbering of four footnotes is "1.1", "2.2", "3.3", "4.4"  
> respectively.
>
> In addition, I am looking forward to having the numbering mechanism of
> "bychapter" again, which I have descriped in
> http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/040203.html
>
>
> -- 
> Best wishes,
> Li Yanrui
>
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Re: beta

[Yanrui Li]

2009/4/29 Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com>:
> Hi Yanrui,
>
> I tested your file and everything is correct here both with mkii and mkiv
> (ConTeXt  ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV  fmt: 2009.4.25  int: english/english).
>

Hi Otared,

When you would update to "Minimals 2009.04.28 08:46", maybe you can
get the abnormal result with MkIV :)

BTW, I found MkII can not work with Minimals 2009.04.28 even though I
had regenerated those formats by "context --make --all".

$ > texexec --pdf test
......
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 7.5.7)
 \write18 enabled.
 (/opt/context-new/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx)
I can't find the format file `cont-en.fmt'!
TeXExec | runtime: 0.086213


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Re: beta

[Otared Kavian]

On 29 avr. 09, at 18:37, Yanrui Li wrote:

> 2009/4/29 Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com>:
>> Hi Yanrui,
>>
>> I tested your file and everything is correct here both with mkii  
>> and mkiv
>> (ConTeXt  ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV  fmt: 2009.4.25  int: english/ 
>> english).
>>
>
> Hi Otared,
>
> When you would update to "Minimals 2009.04.28 08:46", maybe you can
> get the abnormal result with MkIV :)

Hi Yanrui,

Maybe I was lucky enough and didn't succeed to update yesterday… :-)

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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yanrui Li wrote:

> 2009/4/29 Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com>:
>> Hi Yanrui,
>>
>> I tested your file and everything is correct here both with mkii and mkiv
>> (ConTeXt  ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV  fmt: 2009.4.25  int: english/english).
>>
>
> Hi Otared,
>
> When you would update to "Minimals 2009.04.28 08:46", maybe you can
> get the abnormal result with MkIV :)
>
> BTW, I found MkII can not work with Minimals 2009.04.28 even though I
> had regenerated those formats by "context --make --all".

context --make only generates mkiv formats. To generate mkii formats, use 
texexec --make --all

Aditya

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Re: beta

[Yanrui Li]

2009/4/30 Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>:
> On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yanrui Li wrote:
>
>> 2009/4/29 Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Hi Yanrui,
>>>
>>> I tested your file and everything is correct here both with mkii and mkiv
>>> (ConTeXt  ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV  fmt: 2009.4.25  int:
>>> english/english).
>>>
>>
>> Hi Otared,
>>
>> When you would update to "Minimals 2009.04.28 08:46", maybe you can
>> get the abnormal result with MkIV :)
>>
>> BTW, I found MkII can not work with Minimals 2009.04.28 even though I
>> had regenerated those formats by "context --make --all".
>
> context --make only generates mkiv formats. To generate mkii formats, use
> texexec --make --all
>

The problem still exist after "texexec --make --all".

Today, I deleted the old version and installed a entire new beta.
Maybe there is no problem if you updated  from the old one.

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yanrui Li wrote:
> 
>> 2009/4/29 Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com>:
>>> Hi Yanrui,
>>>
>>> I tested your file and everything is correct here both with mkii and 
>>> mkiv
>>> (ConTeXt  ver: 2009.04.21 16:11 MKIV  fmt: 2009.4.25  int: 
>>> english/english).
>>>
>>
>> Hi Otared,
>>
>> When you would update to "Minimals 2009.04.28 08:46", maybe you can
>> get the abnormal result with MkIV :)
>>
>> BTW, I found MkII can not work with Minimals 2009.04.28 even though I
>> had regenerated those formats by "context --make --all".
> 
> context --make only generates mkiv formats. To generate mkii formats, 
> use texexec --make --all

you can cheat: context --make --pdftex

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Re: beta

[Wei-Wei Guo]

Yanrui Li 写道:

Hi,

> The numbering of footnotes are abnormal. Simple example:
> 
> \starttext
> \chapter{T}
> This is a test\footnote{t}.
> 
> \chapter{E}
> This is a test\footnote{e}.
> 
> \chapter{S}
> This is a test\footnote{s}.
> 
> \chapter{T}
> This is a test\footnote{t}.
> \stoptext
> 
> The numbering of four footnotes is "1.1", "2.2", "3.3", "4.4" respectively.
> 

I got the problem too.

$ context --version
MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.29 20:23


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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi

i uploaded a beta with a few structure fixes; upcoming mkiv betas will 
also have an experimental new vertical spacing mechanism (which also 
demands some adaptions to structure related code)

Hans

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Re: beta

[Lutz Haseloff]

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Hi Hans Hi all,

with the most recent beta (ConTeXt  ver: 2009.04.21 09:00 MKIV) and LuaTeX
(Version snapshot-0.39.0-2009042023)
i can't use LucidaBright fonts anymore.
My file is:

\usetypescriptfile[type-buy]
\usetypescript[lucida][texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[lucida]
\starttext
\input knuth
\stoptext

I get following output:

(C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-buy.tex)
define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida12ptrmtfrm*
define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida7ptmmmrrm*
define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida9ptmmmrrm*
define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida12ptmmmrrm*
systems         : begin file lucida at line 4
(C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/knuth.tex)
fonts           : resetting map file list
{C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-empty.map}
fonts           : using map file: original-base
{C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-base.map}
fonts           : using map file: original-ams-base
{C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}
fonts           : using map file: original-ams-euler
{C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-euler.map}
fonts           : using map file: original-public-lm
{C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-public-lm.map}
fonts           : using map file: lm-math
{C:/contextminimal/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}
fonts           : using map file: lm-rm
{C:/contextminimal/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}
fonts           : using map file: texnansi-bh-lucida

LuaTeX warning (file texnansi-bh-lucida.map): cannot open font map file
[1.1]

Isn't texnansi-bh-lucida.map part of context minimal anymore?
Miss I something else?

Greetings Lutz


2009/4/21 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>

> Hi
>
> i uploaded a beta with a few structure fixes; upcoming mkiv betas will also
> have an experimental new vertical spacing mechanism (which also demands some
> adaptions to structure related code)
>
> Hans
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Lutz Haseloff wrote:
> Hi Hans Hi all,
> 
> with the most recent beta (ConTeXt  ver: 2009.04.21 09:00 MKIV) and LuaTeX
> (Version snapshot-0.39.0-2009042023)
> i can't use LucidaBright fonts anymore.
> My file is:
> 
> \usetypescriptfile[type-buy]
> \usetypescript[lucida][texnansi]
> \setupbodyfont[lucida]
> \starttext
> \input knuth
> \stoptext
> 
> I get following output:
> 
> (C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-buy.tex)
> define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
> define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
> define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida12ptrmtfrm*
> define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
> define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
> define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida7ptmmmrrm*
> define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
> define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
> define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida9ptmmmrrm*
> define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
> define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
> define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida12ptmmmrrm*
> systems         : begin file lucida at line 4
> (C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/knuth.tex)
> fonts           : resetting map file list
> {C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-empty.map}
> fonts           : using map file: original-base
> {C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-base.map}
> fonts           : using map file: original-ams-base
> {C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}
> fonts           : using map file: original-ams-euler
> {C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-euler.map}
> fonts           : using map file: original-public-lm
> {C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-public-lm.map}
> fonts           : using map file: lm-math
> {C:/contextminimal/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}
> fonts           : using map file: lm-rm
> {C:/contextminimal/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}
> fonts           : using map file: texnansi-bh-lucida
> 
> LuaTeX warning (file texnansi-bh-lucida.map): cannot open font map file
> [1.1]
> 
> Isn't texnansi-bh-lucida.map part of context minimal anymore?
> Miss I something else?

what happens if you delete the names database? (in the cache under 
fonts/data)

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Re: beta

[Lutz Haseloff]

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Exactly the same errors and the directory ...\fonts\data remains empty.


2009/4/21 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>

> Lutz Haseloff wrote:
>
>> Hi Hans Hi all,
>>
>> with the most recent beta (ConTeXt  ver: 2009.04.21 09:00 MKIV) and LuaTeX
>> (Version snapshot-0.39.0-2009042023)
>> i can't use LucidaBright fonts anymore.
>> My file is:
>>
>> \usetypescriptfile[type-buy]
>> \usetypescript[lucida][texnansi]
>> \setupbodyfont[lucida]
>> \starttext
>> \input knuth
>> \stoptext
>>
>> I get following output:
>>
>> (C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-buy.tex)
>> define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
>> define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
>> define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida12ptrmtfrm*
>> define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
>> define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
>> define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida7ptmmmrrm*
>> define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
>> define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
>> define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida9ptmmmrrm*
>> define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
>> define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
>> define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida12ptmmmrrm*
>> systems         : begin file lucida at line 4
>> (C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/knuth.tex)
>> fonts           : resetting map file list
>>
>> {C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-empty.map}
>> fonts           : using map file: original-base
>>
>> {C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-base.map}
>> fonts           : using map file: original-ams-base
>>
>> {C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}
>> fonts           : using map file: original-ams-euler
>>
>> {C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-euler.map}
>> fonts           : using map file: original-public-lm
>>
>> {C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-public-lm.map}
>> fonts           : using map file: lm-math
>> {C:/contextminimal/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}
>> fonts           : using map file: lm-rm
>> {C:/contextminimal/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}
>> fonts           : using map file: texnansi-bh-lucida
>>
>> LuaTeX warning (file texnansi-bh-lucida.map): cannot open font map file
>> [1.1]
>>
>> Isn't texnansi-bh-lucida.map part of context minimal anymore?
>> Miss I something else?
>>
>
> what happens if you delete the names database? (in the cache under
> fonts/data)
>
>
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Re: beta

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Hi Hans, hi all,

with LuaTeX 0.40 the names database is written again and with Wolfgang's
type-lucida.tex
i can use LucidaBright. Is there any chance to get the Lucida Math fonts
working in
mkiv?

Greetings and a big Thanks

Lutz

2009/4/21 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>

> Lutz Haseloff wrote:
>
>> Hi Hans Hi all,
>>
>> with the most recent beta (ConTeXt  ver: 2009.04.21 09:00 MKIV) and LuaTeX
>> (Version snapshot-0.39.0-2009042023)
>> i can't use LucidaBright fonts anymore.
>> My file is:
>>
>> \usetypescriptfile[type-buy]
>> \usetypescript[lucida][texnansi]
>> \setupbodyfont[lucida]
>> \starttext
>> \input knuth
>> \stoptext
>>
>> I get following output:
>>
>> (C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-buy.tex)
>> define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
>> define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
>> define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida12ptrmtfrm*
>> define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
>> define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
>> define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida7ptmmmrrm*
>> define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
>> define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
>> define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida9ptmmmrrm*
>> define font | font with name texnansi-lbr is not found
>> define font | unknown font texnansi-lbr, loading aborted
>> define font | unable to define texnansi-lbr as \*lucida12ptmmmrrm*
>> systems         : begin file lucida at line 4
>> (C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/knuth.tex)
>> fonts           : resetting map file list
>>
>> {C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-empty.map}
>> fonts           : using map file: original-base
>>
>> {C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-base.map}
>> fonts           : using map file: original-ams-base
>>
>> {C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}
>> fonts           : using map file: original-ams-euler
>>
>> {C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-euler.map}
>> fonts           : using map file: original-public-lm
>>
>> {C:/contextminimal/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-public-lm.map}
>> fonts           : using map file: lm-math
>> {C:/contextminimal/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}
>> fonts           : using map file: lm-rm
>> {C:/contextminimal/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}
>> fonts           : using map file: texnansi-bh-lucida
>>
>> LuaTeX warning (file texnansi-bh-lucida.map): cannot open font map file
>> [1.1]
>>
>> Isn't texnansi-bh-lucida.map part of context minimal anymore?
>> Miss I something else?
>>
>
> what happens if you delete the names database? (in the cache under
> fonts/data)
>
>
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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Apr 23, 2009, at 7:18 AM, Lutz Haseloff wrote:

> Hi Hans, hi all,
>
> with LuaTeX 0.40 the names database is written again and with  
> Wolfgang's type-lucida.tex
> i can use LucidaBright. Is there any chance to get the Lucida Math  
> fonts working in
> mkiv?

Not here, unfortunately. I just compiled 0.40 from trunk and get the  
same errors and the same behavior as with 0.39.

Thomas
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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 23.04.2009 um 07:18 schrieb Lutz Haseloff:

> Hi Hans, hi all,
>
> with LuaTeX 0.40 the names database is written again and with  
> Wolfgang's type-lucida.tex
> i can use LucidaBright. Is there any chance to get the Lucida Math  
> fonts working in
> mkiv?


Add the following at the end of my typescript I send in my last mail,  
I tested it with
a few simple equations but it would help if we have a real test  
document like the one
from AMS.

\startluacode
mathematics.make_font ( "lucida-math", {
     { name = "lbr.afm", features = "virtualmath", main = true },
     { name = "hlcrim", vector = "traditional-mi", skewchar=0x7F },
     { name = "hlcry", vector = "traditional-sy", skewchar=0x30,  
parameters = true },
     { name = "hlcrv", vector = "traditional-ex", extension = true },
     { name = "msam10", vector = "traditional-ma" },
     { name = "msbm10", vector = "traditional-mb" },
} )
\stopluacode

\starttypescript [math] [lucida] [all]
     \definefontsynonym[MathRoman][lucidamath@lucida-math]
     \loadmapfile[lucida.map]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [lucida]
   \definetypeface [lucida] [rm] [serif]       [lucida] [default]
   \definetypeface [lucida] [ss] [sans]        [lucida] [default]
   \definetypeface [lucida] [tt] [mono]        [lucida] [default]
   \definetypeface [lucida] [mm] [math]        [lucida] [default]
   \definetypeface [lucida] [hw] [handwriting] [lucida] [default]
   \definetypeface [lucida] [cg] [calligraphy] [lucida] [default]
\stoptypescript

Wolfgang

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Re: beta

[Lutz Haseloff]

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Thanks Wolfgang,

but I got following error:
define font | font with name hlcrim is not found
math virtual | loading font lucidamath subfont 2 with name hlcrim at 458752
is skipped, not found
define font | font with name hlcry is not found
math virtual | loading font lucidamath subfont 3 with name hlcry at 458752
is skipped, not found
define font | font with name hlcrv is not found
math virtual | loading font lucidamath subfont 4 with name hlcrv at 458752
is skipped, not found
! LuaTeX error ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:85:
attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:85: in function
'arrow'
    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:222: in function
'alas'
    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:498: in function
<...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:243>
    (tail call): ?
    (tail call): ?
    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:506: in function
'read'
    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:288: in function
'command_2'
    <main ctx instance>:1: in main chunk.
\lowleveldefinefont ...dimexpr \textface \relax )}
                                                  \edef \somefontspec {at
\s...
\xxdododefinefont ...efont {#4}\newfontidentifier
                                                  \let
\localrelativefontsiz...
\dodosetmathfamily ...family \fontsize \endcsname
                                                  \else \ifcsname
\fontclass...
\dosetmathfamily ...athfamily \scriptscriptfont #1
                                                  \let \currentmathsize
\plu...
\synchronizemath ...athfonts \the \mathstrategies
                                                  \fi
<inserted text> ...chronizefonts \synchronizemath
                                                  \synchronizefont \fi
\spac...
...
l.3 \setupbodyfont[lucida]


Installing the tfm and vf fontfiles from CTAN did not help.

after adapting your script to:

\startluacode
mathematics.make_font ( "lucida-math", {
   { name = "lbr.afm", features = "virtualmath", main = true },
   { name = "lbmi.afm", vector = "traditional-mi", skewchar=0x7F },
   { name = "lbms.afm", vector = "traditional-sy", skewchar=0x30, parameters
= true },
   { name = "lbme.afm", vector = "traditional-ex", extension = true },
   { name = "msam10", vector = "traditional-ma" },
   { name = "msbm10", vector = "traditional-mb" },
} )
\stopluacode

ConTeXt found the fonts but gaves:

! LuaTeX error ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:464:
attempt to index local 'fci' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:464: in function
<...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:243>
    (tail call): ?
    (tail call): ?
    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:506: in function
'read'
    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:288: in function
'command_2'
    <main ctx instance>:1: in main chunk.
\lowleveldefinefont ...dimexpr \textface \relax )}
                                                  \edef \somefontspec {at
\s...
\xxdododefinefont ...efont {#4}\newfontidentifier
                                                  \let
\localrelativefontsiz...
\dodosetmathfamily ...family \fontsize \endcsname
                                                  \else \ifcsname
\fontclass...
\dosetmathfamily ...athfamily \scriptscriptfont #1
                                                  \let \currentmathsize
\plu...
\synchronizemath ...athfonts \the \mathstrategies
                                                  \fi
<inserted text> ...chronizefonts \synchronizemath
                                                  \synchronizefont \fi
\spac...
...
l.3 \setupbodyfont[lucida]

No success so far...


Greetings Lutz



2009/4/23 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>

>
> Am 23.04.2009 um 07:18 schrieb Lutz Haseloff:
>
>  Hi Hans, hi all,
>>
>> with LuaTeX 0.40 the names database is written again and with Wolfgang's
>> type-lucida.tex
>> i can use LucidaBright. Is there any chance to get the Lucida Math fonts
>> working in
>> mkiv?
>>
>
>
> Add the following at the end of my typescript I send in my last mail, I
> tested it with
> a few simple equations but it would help if we have a real test document
> like the one
> from AMS.
>
> \startluacode
> mathematics.make_font ( "lucida-math", {
>    { name = "lbr.afm", features = "virtualmath", main = true },
>    { name = "hlcrim", vector = "traditional-mi", skewchar=0x7F },
>    { name = "hlcry", vector = "traditional-sy", skewchar=0x30, parameters =
> true },
>    { name = "hlcrv", vector = "traditional-ex", extension = true },
>    { name = "msam10", vector = "traditional-ma" },
>    { name = "msbm10", vector = "traditional-mb" },
> } )
> \stopluacode
>
> \starttypescript [math] [lucida] [all]
>    \definefontsynonym[MathRoman][lucidamath@lucida-math]
>    \loadmapfile[lucida.map]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [lucida]
>  \definetypeface [lucida] [rm] [serif]       [lucida] [default]
>  \definetypeface [lucida] [ss] [sans]        [lucida] [default]
>  \definetypeface [lucida] [tt] [mono]        [lucida] [default]
>  \definetypeface [lucida] [mm] [math]        [lucida] [default]
>  \definetypeface [lucida] [hw] [handwriting] [lucida] [default]
>  \definetypeface [lucida] [cg] [calligraphy] [lucida] [default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
>
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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Hi Lutz,

the tfm's and map file I used in my typescript are part of the lucida  
package from TUG.

Wolfgang

Am 23.04.2009 um 11:51 schrieb Lutz Haseloff:

> Thanks Wolfgang,
>
> but I got following error:
> define font | font with name hlcrim is not found
> math virtual | loading font lucidamath subfont 2 with name hlcrim at  
> 458752 is skipped, not found
> define font | font with name hlcry is not found
> math virtual | loading font lucidamath subfont 3 with name hlcry at  
> 458752 is skipped, not found
> define font | font with name hlcrv is not found
> math virtual | loading font lucidamath subfont 4 with name hlcrv at  
> 458752 is skipped, not found
> ! LuaTeX error ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math- 
> vfu.lua:85: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
> stack traceback:
>     ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:85: in  
> function 'arrow'
>     ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:222: in  
> function 'alas'
>     ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:498: in  
> function <...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:243>
>     (tail call): ?
>     (tail call): ?
>     ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:506: in  
> function 'read'
>     ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:288: in  
> function 'command_2'
>     <main ctx instance>:1: in main chunk.
> \lowleveldefinefont ...dimexpr \textface \relax )}
>                                                   \edef  
> \somefontspec {at \s...
> \xxdododefinefont ...efont {#4}\newfontidentifier
>                                                   \let  
> \localrelativefontsiz...
> \dodosetmathfamily ...family \fontsize \endcsname
>                                                   \else \ifcsname  
> \fontclass...
> \dosetmathfamily ...athfamily \scriptscriptfont #1
>                                                   \let  
> \currentmathsize \plu...
> \synchronizemath ...athfonts \the \mathstrategies
>                                                   \fi
> <inserted text> ...chronizefonts \synchronizemath
>                                                   \synchronizefont  
> \fi \spac...
> ...
> l.3 \setupbodyfont[lucida]
>
>
> Installing the tfm and vf fontfiles from CTAN did not help.
>
> after adapting your script to:
>
> \startluacode
> mathematics.make_font ( "lucida-math", {
>    { name = "lbr.afm", features = "virtualmath", main = true },
>    { name = "lbmi.afm", vector = "traditional-mi", skewchar=0x7F },
>    { name = "lbms.afm", vector = "traditional-sy", skewchar=0x30,  
> parameters = true },
>    { name = "lbme.afm", vector = "traditional-ex", extension = true },
>    { name = "msam10", vector = "traditional-ma" },
>    { name = "msbm10", vector = "traditional-mb" },
> } )
> \stopluacode
>
> ConTeXt found the fonts but gaves:
>
> ! LuaTeX error ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math- 
> vfu.lua:464: attempt to index local 'fci' (a nil value)
> stack traceback:
>     ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:464: in  
> function <...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:243>
>     (tail call): ?
>     (tail call): ?
>     ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:506: in  
> function 'read'
>     ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:288: in  
> function 'command_2'
>     <main ctx instance>:1: in main chunk.
> \lowleveldefinefont ...dimexpr \textface \relax )}
>                                                   \edef  
> \somefontspec {at \s...
> \xxdododefinefont ...efont {#4}\newfontidentifier
>                                                   \let  
> \localrelativefontsiz...
> \dodosetmathfamily ...family \fontsize \endcsname
>                                                   \else \ifcsname  
> \fontclass...
> \dosetmathfamily ...athfamily \scriptscriptfont #1
>                                                   \let  
> \currentmathsize \plu...
> \synchronizemath ...athfonts \the \mathstrategies
>                                                   \fi
> <inserted text> ...chronizefonts \synchronizemath
>                                                   \synchronizefont  
> \fi \spac...
> ...
> l.3 \setupbodyfont[lucida]
>
> No success so far...
>
>
> Greetings Lutz

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Re: beta

[Lutz Haseloff]

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Hi Wolfgang,

Thank You very much, Lucida Math works now with your original
type-lucida.tex.

Greetings Lutz

2009/4/23 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>

> Hi Lutz,
>
> the tfm's and map file I used in my typescript are part of the lucida
> package from TUG.
>
> Wolfgang
>
> Am 23.04.2009 um 11:51 schrieb Lutz Haseloff:
>
>
>  Thanks Wolfgang,
>>
>> but I got following error:
>> define font | font with name hlcrim is not found
>> math virtual | loading font lucidamath subfont 2 with name hlcrim at
>> 458752 is skipped, not found
>> define font | font with name hlcry is not found
>> math virtual | loading font lucidamath subfont 3 with name hlcry at 458752
>> is skipped, not found
>> define font | font with name hlcrv is not found
>> math virtual | loading font lucidamath subfont 4 with name hlcrv at 458752
>> is skipped, not found
>> ! LuaTeX error ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:85:
>> attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
>> stack traceback:
>>    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:85: in function
>> 'arrow'
>>    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:222: in
>> function 'alas'
>>    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:498: in
>> function <...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:243>
>>    (tail call): ?
>>    (tail call): ?
>>    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:506: in
>> function 'read'
>>    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:288: in
>> function 'command_2'
>>    <main ctx instance>:1: in main chunk.
>> \lowleveldefinefont ...dimexpr \textface \relax )}
>>                                                  \edef \somefontspec {at
>> \s...
>> \xxdododefinefont ...efont {#4}\newfontidentifier
>>                                                  \let
>> \localrelativefontsiz...
>> \dodosetmathfamily ...family \fontsize \endcsname
>>                                                  \else \ifcsname
>> \fontclass...
>> \dosetmathfamily ...athfamily \scriptscriptfont #1
>>                                                  \let \currentmathsize
>> \plu...
>> \synchronizemath ...athfonts \the \mathstrategies
>>                                                  \fi
>> <inserted text> ...chronizefonts \synchronizemath
>>                                                  \synchronizefont \fi
>> \spac...
>> ...
>> l.3 \setupbodyfont[lucida]
>>
>>
>> Installing the tfm and vf fontfiles from CTAN did not help.
>>
>> after adapting your script to:
>>
>> \startluacode
>> mathematics.make_font ( "lucida-math", {
>>   { name = "lbr.afm", features = "virtualmath", main = true },
>>   { name = "lbmi.afm", vector = "traditional-mi", skewchar=0x7F },
>>   { name = "lbms.afm", vector = "traditional-sy", skewchar=0x30,
>> parameters = true },
>>   { name = "lbme.afm", vector = "traditional-ex", extension = true },
>>   { name = "msam10", vector = "traditional-ma" },
>>   { name = "msbm10", vector = "traditional-mb" },
>> } )
>> \stopluacode
>>
>> ConTeXt found the fonts but gaves:
>>
>> ! LuaTeX error
>> ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:464: attempt to
>> index local 'fci' (a nil value)
>> stack traceback:
>>    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:464: in
>> function <...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:243>
>>    (tail call): ?
>>    (tail call): ?
>>    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:506: in
>> function 'read'
>>    ...tminimal/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:288: in
>> function 'command_2'
>>    <main ctx instance>:1: in main chunk.
>> \lowleveldefinefont ...dimexpr \textface \relax )}
>>                                                  \edef \somefontspec {at
>> \s...
>> \xxdododefinefont ...efont {#4}\newfontidentifier
>>                                                  \let
>> \localrelativefontsiz...
>> \dodosetmathfamily ...family \fontsize \endcsname
>>                                                  \else \ifcsname
>> \fontclass...
>> \dosetmathfamily ...athfamily \scriptscriptfont #1
>>                                                  \let \currentmathsize
>> \plu...
>> \synchronizemath ...athfonts \the \mathstrategies
>>                                                  \fi
>> <inserted text> ...chronizefonts \synchronizemath
>>                                                  \synchronizefont \fi
>> \spac...
>> ...
>> l.3 \setupbodyfont[lucida]
>>
>> No success so far...
>>
>>
>> Greetings Lutz
>>
>
>
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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:38, Lutz Haseloff wrote:
>
> Isn't texnansi-bh-lucida.map part of context minimal anymore?
> Miss I something else?

I have created the new distribution from scratch. There might be quite
some font files missing.

Which files are still needed? One option would be to pack support
files for commercial fonts into a package under ConTeXt modules and
then fetch from there (or any other idea welcome).

Mojca
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Re: beta

[Lutz Haseloff]

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2009/4/22 Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>

> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:38, Lutz Haseloff wrote:
> >
> > Isn't texnansi-bh-lucida.map part of context minimal anymore?
> > Miss I something else?
>
> I have created the new distribution from scratch. There might be quite
> some font files missing.
>


Where can i find the files for testing?
I will immediately test them when "mtxrun --script fonts --reload" works
again.




>
> Which files are still needed? One option would be to pack support
> files for commercial fonts into a package under ConTeXt modules and
> then fetch from there (or any other idea welcome).
>
> Mojca
>
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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 09:09, Lutz Haseloff wrote:
>
> 2009/4/22 Mojca Miklavec
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:38, Lutz Haseloff wrote:
>> >
>> > Isn't texnansi-bh-lucida.map part of context minimal anymore?
>> > Miss I something else?
>>
>> I have created the new distribution from scratch. There might be quite
>> some font files missing.
>
> Where can i find the files for testing?
> I will immediately test them when "mtxrun --script fonts --reload" works
> again.

I don't know. Maybe Hans has them, maybe they are on some older TeX
Live DVDs or maybe some other user still has the old distribution
lying around.

Mojca
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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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%D \module
%D   [       file=type-lucida,
%D        version=2008.12.24,
%D          title=\CONTEXT\ Typescript Macros,
%D       subtitle=Lucida Collection,
%D         author=Wolfgang Schuster,
%D           date=\currentdate,
%D      copyright=Wolfgang Schuster]

\starttypescriptcollection [lucida]

\starttypescript [serif] [lucida]
  \setups[font:fallback:serif]
  \definefontsynonym [Serif]           [LucidaBright-Regular]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]       [LucidaBright-Bold]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic]     [LucidaBright-Italic]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [LucidaBright-BoldItalic]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifCaps]       [LucidaBright-Smallcaps]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [lucida]
  \definefontsynonym [LucidaBright-Regular]    [name:LucidaBright]            [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [LucidaBright-Bold]       [name:LucidaBright-Demi]       [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [LucidaBright-Italic]     [name:LucidaBright-Italic]     [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [LucidaBright-BoldItalic] [name:LucidaBright-DemiItalic] [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [LucidaBright-Smallcaps]  [name:LucidaBrightSmallcaps]   [features=default]
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  \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [LucidaSans-Regular]
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  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [LucidaSans-Italic]
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  \definefontsynonym [LucidaSans-Bold]       [name:LucidaSans-Demi]       [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [LucidaSans-Italic]     [name:LucidaSans-Italic]     [features=default]
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  \setups[font:fallback:mono]
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  \definefontsynonym [LucidaTypewriter-Regular]    [name:LucidaTypewriter]            [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [LucidaTypewriter-Bold]       [name:LucidaTypewriterBold]        [features=default]
  \definefontsynonym [LucidaTypewriter-Italic]     [name:LucidaTypewriterOblique]     [features=default]
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\stoptypescript

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  \definefontsynonym [Handwriting] [LucidaHandwriting-Italic]
\stoptypescript

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  \definefontsynonym [LucidaHandwriting-Italic] [name:LucidaHandwriting-Italic] [features=default]
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  \definefontsynonym [Calligraphy] [LucidaCalligraphy-Italic]
\stoptypescript

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\stoptypescript

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Am 21.04.2009 um 10:38 schrieb Lutz Haseloff:

> Hi Hans Hi all,
>
> with the most recent beta (ConTeXt  ver: 2009.04.21 09:00 MKIV) and  
> LuaTeX (Version snapshot-0.39.0-2009042023)
> i can't use LucidaBright fonts anymore.

You can use my own Lucida typescripts (math support is missing), I  
thought about splitting type-buy in mkii/mkiv files but this will only  
help pdfTeX and LuaTeX users but not XeTeX ones.

I think a separate file for XeTeX/LuaTeX only could help (with mkii/ 
mkiv files for math) or we include them in type-otf if Hans has no  
problem with this.

Wolfgang


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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Apr 21, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi
>
> i uploaded a beta with a few structure fixes; upcoming mkiv betas  
> will also have an experimental new vertical spacing mechanism (which  
> also demands some adaptions to structure related code)
>
> Hans

Hi Hans,

just a few very short tests (I have to teach in an hour, so can't do  
much today in terms of testing):

1. The problem with the bib module persists. I don't get any errors  
anymore about undefined control sequences, the bbl file is loaded, but  
no output is produced. I hope I can produce a minimal test file  
tomorrow, unless you already have a test.

2. The problem with font tables persists as well. mtxrun version 1.21  
does not produce names.tma and names.tmc, mtxrun --script fonts -- 
reload does not produce any output and fails silently. A workaround is  
copying the names.tm* files over from another cache instance.

3. Page numbering is still a bit flaky. test file (don't know if this  
is quite minimal):

\setuphead
    [section]
    [page=yes,
     style=normal]

\setupuserpagenumber[state=start,way=bysection]

\setupfootertexts[{\getmarking[sectionnumber]} – \userpagenumber]

\starttext

\section{One}

\input tufte

\page

\input linden

\section{Two}

\input bryson

\page

\input davis

\stoptext

More to follow (some weird things with xml setups).

Best Thomas
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> 1. The problem with the bib module persists. I don't get any errors 
> anymore about undefined control sequences, the bbl file is loaded, but 
> no output is produced. I hope I can produce a minimal test file 
> tomorrow, unless you already have a test.

a test file would be handy indeed as i have no clue how to invoke the bug


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Re: beta

[Kevin D. Robbins]

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With the following versions of ConTeXt, LuaTeX, and t-bib:

MTXrun | main context file:
/opt/context/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.21 16:11
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.0-2009042222 luatex.web >= v2344
%D \module
%D   [       file=t-bib,
%D        version=2009.04.17,

Using the following in a file named bibliography.bib:

@TechReport{WhoAmI2009,
  author =       {Who Am I},
  title =        {Foo, Bar, Baz},
  institution =  {Boo},
  year =         {2009},
  number =       {42},
  month =        {January}
}

With the following as my test file:

\usemodule[bib]
\usemodule[bibltx]
\setupbibtex[database=./bibliography]
\setuppublications[sorttype=bbl,criterium=all]
\setuppublications[numbering=short,autohang=yes,refcommand=key]

\starttext
\input knuth \cite[WhoAmI2009]
\stoptext

I get the following error:

! Undefined control sequence.
<argument> ... [\bibrefprefix ][\sectionseparator
                                                  ]
\expanded ...\long \xdef \@@expanded {\noexpand #1
                                                  }\@@expanded
\preparebibreflist ...refix ][\sectionseparator ]}
                                                  \storeitem
\gotobiblink ...brefprefix \preparebibreflist {#2}
                                                  \global \bibreffoundfalse
...
\next1 #1,->\dobibkeyref {#1}
                             \doprocesscommaitem
\doprocesscommalist ...item \gobbleoneargument #1,
                                                  ]\relax \global \advance
\...
...
l.9 \stoptext

If I change \cite[WhoAmI2009] to \cite[short][WhoAmI2009], then the document
will build without errors if there are no intermediate files but without
actually inserting the citation key: I just get the empty pair []. If there
are intermediate files, then I get the familiar:

! Undefined control sequence.
<argument> ... [\bibrefprefix ][\sectionseparator
                                                  ]
\expanded ...\long \xdef \@@expanded {\noexpand #1
                                                  }\@@expanded
\preparebibreflist ...refix ][\sectionseparator ]}
                                                  \storeitem
\gotobiblink ...brefprefix \preparebibreflist {#2}
                                                  \global \bibreffoundfalse
...
\next1 #1,->\dobibshortref {#1}
                               \doprocesscommaitem
\doprocesscommalist ...item \gobbleoneargument #1,
                                                  ]\relax \global \advance
\...
...
l.8 \input knuth \cite[short][WhoAmI2009]

I hope this helps!

Kevin

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
>  1. The problem with the bib module persists. I don't get any errors
>> anymore about undefined control sequences, the bbl file is loaded, but no
>> output is produced. I hope I can produce a minimal test file tomorrow,
>> unless you already have a test.
>>
>
> a test file would be handy indeed as i have no clue how to invoke the bug
>
>
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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, Kevin D. Robbins wrote:

> With the following versions of ConTeXt, LuaTeX, and t-bib:
>
> MTXrun | main context file:
> /opt/context/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
> MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.21 16:11
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.0-2009042222 luatex.web >= v2344
> %D \module
> %D   [       file=t-bib,
> %D        version=2009.04.17,
>
> Using the following in a file named bibliography.bib:
>
> @TechReport{WhoAmI2009,
>  author =       {Who Am I},
>  title =        {Foo, Bar, Baz},
>  institution =  {Boo},
>  year =         {2009},
>  number =       {42},
>  month =        {January}
> }
>
> With the following as my test file:
>
> \usemodule[bib]
> \usemodule[bibltx]
> \setupbibtex[database=./bibliography]
> \setuppublications[sorttype=bbl,criterium=all]
> \setuppublications[numbering=short,autohang=yes,refcommand=key]
>
> \starttext
> \input knuth \cite[WhoAmI2009]
> \stoptext

This works fine here. I have the same setup as you have.

Does doing a

context --purge --all

and then recompiling help?
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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
>
>> With the following versions of ConTeXt, LuaTeX, and t-bib:
>> 
>> MTXrun | main context file:
>> /opt/context/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
>> MTXrun | current version: 2009.04.21 16:11
>> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.0-2009042222 luatex.web >= v2344
>> %D \module
>> %D   [       file=t-bib,
>> %D        version=2009.04.17,
>> 
>> Using the following in a file named bibliography.bib:
>> 
>> @TechReport{WhoAmI2009,
>>  author =       {Who Am I},
>>  title =        {Foo, Bar, Baz},
>>  institution =  {Boo},
>>  year =         {2009},
>>  number =       {42},
>>  month =        {January}
>> }
>> 
>> With the following as my test file:
>> 
>> \usemodule[bib]
>> \usemodule[bibltx]
>> \setupbibtex[database=./bibliography]
>> \setuppublications[sorttype=bbl,criterium=all]
>> \setuppublications[numbering=short,autohang=yes,refcommand=key]
>> 
>> \starttext
>> \input knuth \cite[WhoAmI2009]
>> \stoptext
>
> This works fine here. I have the same setup as you have.

Sorry, I have the same error here. Missed a comma while reformatting your 
example.

Taco, here is a (slightly smaller) minimal example:

\usemodule[bib]
\setupbibtex[database=./bibliography]
\setuppublications[refcommand=key]

\starttext
\cite[WhoAmI2009]

\placepublications

\stoptext


with bibliography.bib

\usemodule[bib]
\setupbibtex[database=./bibliography]
\setuppublications[refcommand=key]

\starttext
\input knuth \cite[WhoAmI2009]

\placepublications

\stoptext

I get the same error as Kevin:

! Undefined control sequence.
<argument> ... [\bibrefprefix ][\sectionseparator
                                                   ]
\expanded ...\long \xdef \@@expanded {\noexpand #1
                                                   }\@@expanded
\preparebibreflist ...refix ][\sectionseparator ]}
                                                   \storeitem
\gotobiblink ...brefprefix \preparebibreflist {#2}
                                                   \global 
\bibreffoundfalse ...
\next1 #1,->\dobibkeyref {#1}
                              \doprocesscommaitem
\doprocesscommalist ...item \gobbleoneargument #1,
                                                   ]\relax \global \advance 
\...
...
l.7

Aditya
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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

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Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> 
> I get the same error as Kevin:
> 
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> <argument> ... [\bibrefprefix ][\sectionseparator
>                                                   ]

Add this to fix the error:

\def\preparebibreflist#1{\def\bibreflist{#1}}%

see attached files.


For Hans: the attached test file demonstates one of the reasons
why this is still broken.

Both pages now have a link to a publication, but because of the
over-simplication of \preparebibrefprefix and \preparebibreflist,
these both point to the same label (the one on page one), and
luatex complains:

   LuaTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier
   (name{WhoAmI2009}) has been already used, duplicate ignored

That is the problem these two macros were addressing, and I
have no idea how to do the same in the new structure code.

Best wishes,
Taco


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@TechReport{WhoAmI2009,
	  author =       {Who Am I},
	    title =        {Foo, Bar, Baz},
	      institution =  {Boo},
	        year =         {2009},
		  number =       {42},
		    month =        {January}
}


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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi,

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>>
>> I get the same error as Kevin:
>>
>> ! Undefined control sequence.
>> <argument> ... [\bibrefprefix ][\sectionseparator
>>                                                   ]
> 
> Add this to fix the error:
> 
> \def\preparebibreflist#1{\def\bibreflist{#1}}%
> 
> see attached files.
> 
> For Hans: the attached test file demonstates one of the reasons
> why this is still broken.

Meanwhile, Hans has sent me a patch that should be good
enough to make people be able to use the bib module again,
so I will upload a new version soon (monday morning).

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: beta

[Yue Wang]

\setupinteractionscreen[option=max] will make the document failed to compile.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Hi
>
> i uploaded a beta with a few structure fixes; upcoming mkiv betas will also
> have an experimental new vertical spacing mechanism (which also demands some
> adaptions to structure related code)
>
> Hans
>
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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

i uploaded a beta ... this one matches the latest check-in of luatex

this is also the last non-xp version as i'm going to merge the cont-xp 
code into th emain version now

Hans

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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> i uploaded a beta ... this one matches the latest check-in of luatex
>
> this is also the last non-xp version as i'm going to merge the cont-xp code 
> into th emain version now

Currently, the bib module does not work with cont-xp. Taco has said that 
it is easier to redo the bib module in lua than to get it to work with xp.

A few weeks back Taco said that a lua based bib module is at least a few 
months away 
(http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20090312.084338.8be52e4c.en.html). 
Is that still the case? Without the bib module, I will not be able to use 
MKIV in real projects, and would basically be stuck at the current beta.

Aditya
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Re: beta

[Jesse Alama]

Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> writes:

> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> i uploaded a beta ... this one matches the latest check-in of luatex
>>
>> this is also the last non-xp version as i'm going to merge the
>> cont-xp code into th emain version now
>
> Currently, the bib module does not work with cont-xp. Taco has said
> that it is easier to redo the bib module in lua than to get it to work
> with xp.
>
> A few weeks back Taco said that a lua based bib module is at least a
> few months away
> (http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20090312.084338.8be52e4c.en.html). Is
> that still the case? Without the bib module, I will not be able to use
> MKIV in real projects, and would basically be stuck at the current
> beta.

+1 (I'm currently wrapping up my dissertation using mkiv.)

That said, a lua version of the bib module would, of course, be welcome.

Jesse

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> i uploaded a beta ... this one matches the latest check-in of luatex
>>
>> this is also the last non-xp version as i'm going to merge the cont-xp 
>> code into th emain version now
> 
> Currently, the bib module does not work with cont-xp. Taco has said that 
> it is easier to redo the bib module in lua than to get it to work with xp.
> 
> A few weeks back Taco said that a lua based bib module is at least a few 
> months away 
> (http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20090312.084338.8be52e4c.en.html). 
> Is that still the case? Without the bib module, I will not be able to 
> use MKIV in real projects, and would basically be stuck at the current 
> beta.

hm, can you check what fails?

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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>> A few weeks back Taco said that a lua based bib module is at least a
>> few months away
>> (http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20090312.084338.8be52e4c.en.html).
>> Is that still the case? Without the bib module, I will not be able to
>> use MKIV in real projects, and would basically be stuck at the current
>> beta.
> 
> hm, can you check what fails?

! Undefined control sequence.
<argument> \alltoclevels

That is because the publication list is a <list> and it has to redefine
some of the internal filtering routines so you can say

  \placepublicationlist[criterium=]

There are two big bad macros. First, there is this redefinition
of \dosetfilterlevel  (that became needed after some point due to
changes in context).

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%5
\def\patcheddosetfilterlevel#1#2% beware: this one is \let
  {\bgroup
   \ignoresectionconversion % this is vital for bib !
   \edef\askedlevel{#1}%
   \edef\askedfilter{#2}%
   \ifx\askedlevel\v!current
     \dosetcurrentlevel\askedlevel
   \else\ifx\askedlevel\v!previous
     \dosetpreviouslevel\askedlevel
   \else\ifx\askedlevel\v!all
     \global\chardef\alltoclevels\plusone
   \else\ifx\askedlevel\v!text
     \global\chardef\alltoclevels\plusone
   \else
     \edef\byaskedlevel{\csname\??by\askedlevel\endcsname}%
     \ifx\byaskedlevel\v!text
       \dosettextlevel\askedlevel
     \else
       \dosetotherlevel\askedlevel
     \fi
   \fi\fi\fi\fi
   \ifx\askedfilter\empty \else
     \xdef\currentlevel
        {\currentlevel\sectionseparator\askedfilter}%
   \fi
   \egroup}
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%


The second is this macro, which does the actual filtering:

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
\def\filllocalpublist%
  {\let\dosetfilterlevel\patcheddosetfilterlevel
   \dosettoclevel\??li{pubs}%
   \let\dosetfilterlevel\normaldosetfilterlevel
   \global\let\glocalpublist\empty
   \doloop
     {\doifdefinedelse
        {\r!cross cite-\jobname-\recurselevel}
        {\doifreferencefoundelse
           {cite-\jobname-\recurselevel}
           {\@EA\doifreglevelelse\@EA[\currentlocationreference]
              {\@EA\doglobal\@EA\addtocommalist\@EA
                {\currenttextreference}\glocalpublist}{}}
           {}}%
        {\exitloop}}%
    \let\localpublist\glocalpublist}
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
> Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> A few weeks back Taco said that a lua based bib module is at least a
>>> few months away
>>> (http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20090312.084338.8be52e4c.en.html).
>>> Is that still the case? Without the bib module, I will not be able to
>>> use MKIV in real projects, and would basically be stuck at the current
>>> beta.
>> hm, can you check what fails?
> 
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> <argument> \alltoclevels

if someone prepares a small test set that shows the problem we can look 
into it (and cook up a temp mkiv hack)

Hans


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beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Hi Hans,

I discovered two problems with the beta.

1. \typescriptone is ignored in the typescripts and many fonts (e.g.
can't be used)

\starttypescript [termes,times]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [termes] [default]
\stoptypescript

2. The new feature \getcheckedparameters acts like \get*e*parameter in
the lua code.

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Re: beta

[Chen Shen]

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Hi,

I encounter the same problem with all Gyre fonts as well. I am using:
MtxRun | current version: 2009.03.13 17:35
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.36.0-2009031418, build unknown

BTW, the \Vert delimiter (double vertical bar) is missing.

Regards,
shenchen

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Wolfgang Schuster <
schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Hans,
>
> I discovered two problems with the beta.
>
> 1. \typescriptone is ignored in the typescripts and many fonts (e.g.
> can't be used)
>
> \starttypescript [termes,times]
>  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [termes] [default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> 2. The new feature \getcheckedparameters acts like \get*e*parameter in
> the lua code.
>
> Wolfgang
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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Chen Shen wrote:

> BTW, the \Vert delimiter (double vertical bar) is missing.

\starttext
$\Vert$
\stoptext

gives me \Vert. Can you give an example where it doesn't work?

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Re: beta

[Chen Shen]

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Hi Aditya,

minimal example:
\starttext
$\Vert x \Vert$

$\left\Vert x \right\Vert$
\stoptext

When I run context, the first line passes, but no vertical bar is displayed.
The second line triggers the following error message:

! Missing delimiter (. inserted).
<to be read again>
                   \Umathchar
\Vert ->\Umathchar
                   "0 "0 "2225
l.4 $\left\Vert
                x \right\Vert$

thanks a lot.

regards,
shenchen

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Chen Shen wrote:
>
>  BTW, the \Vert delimiter (double vertical bar) is missing.
>>
>
> \starttext
> $\Vert$
> \stoptext
>
> gives me \Vert. Can you give an example where it doesn't work?
>
> Aditya
>
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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Chen Shen wrote:

> Hi Aditya,
>
> minimal example:
> \starttext
> $\Vert x \Vert$
>
> $\left\Vert x \right\Vert$
> \stoptext
>
> When I run context, the first line passes, but no vertical bar is displayed.
> The second line triggers the following error message:
>
> ! Missing delimiter (. inserted).
> <to be read again>
>                   \Umathchar
> \Vert ->\Umathchar
>                   "0 "0 "2225
> l.4 $\left\Vert
>                x \right\Vert$
>
> thanks a lot.

Make the following change in char-def.lua and regenerate formats.

@@ -52729,8 +52729,7 @@ characters.data={
    linebreak="ai",
    mathspec={
     { class="relation", name="parallel" },
-   { class="nothing", name="Vert" },
+   { class="delimiter", name="Vert" },
     { class="nothing", name="Arrowvert" },
     { class="open", name="lVert" },
     { class="close", name="rVert" },


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Re: beta

[Chen Shen]

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Both problems are now fixed.Thanks a lot, Aditya and Hans.

shenchen

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 2:34 AM, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Chen Shen wrote:
>
>  Hi Aditya,
>>
>> minimal example:
>> \starttext
>> $\Vert x \Vert$
>>
>> $\left\Vert x \right\Vert$
>> \stoptext
>>
>> When I run context, the first line passes, but no vertical bar is
>> displayed.
>> The second line triggers the following error message:
>>
>> ! Missing delimiter (. inserted).
>> <to be read again>
>>                  \Umathchar
>> \Vert ->\Umathchar
>>                  "0 "0 "2225
>> l.4 $\left\Vert
>>               x \right\Vert$
>>
>> thanks a lot.
>>
>
> Make the following change in char-def.lua and regenerate formats.
>
> @@ -52729,8 +52729,7 @@ characters.data={
>   linebreak="ai",
>   mathspec={
>    { class="relation", name="parallel" },
> -   { class="nothing", name="Vert" },
> +   { class="delimiter", name="Vert" },
>    { class="nothing", name="Arrowvert" },
>    { class="open", name="lVert" },
>    { class="close", name="rVert" },
>
>
>
> Aditya
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Hi Hans,
> 
> I discovered two problems with the beta.
> 
> 1. \typescriptone is ignored in the typescripts and many fonts (e.g.
> can't be used)
> 
> \starttypescript [termes,times]
>   \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [termes] [default]
> \stoptypescript
> 
> 2. The new feature \getcheckedparameters acts like \get*e*parameter in
> the lua code.

fixed

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta. There are a few math fixes (but extensible top 
accents will be done the next few weeks because the engine needs to 
rupport it). There is also a changed CJK handler (on by default but that 
might change because of some overhead that it creates). Later this week, 
in Korea I'll discuss some details that are boethering me esp how to 
deal with crappy fonts, half width, etc. (I made some automatisms that I 
removed because there is too much interference and unpredictability)

CJK users can get an idea with

\usemodule[fnt-24]

\setuplayout[topspace=1cm,bottomspace=1cm,width=middle,height=middle,header=0pt,footer=0pt]

\setupcolors[state=start] \enabletrackers[cjk.analyzing]

\starttext

\definefontfeature
   [korean]
   [script=hang,language=kor,mode=node]

\definedfont[adobesongstd-light*korean at 10pt] \setupinterlinespace

\ShowCombinationsCJK (\ShowCombinationsC)

\stoptext

CJK users might want to  get some agreement on

- what exact rules are with regarde to mixes
- how to deal with interference between fonts
- which fonts can serve as reference
- what examples to use for testing
- ...

Hans

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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Hans Hagen schrieb:

> I uploaded a new beta. There are a few math fixes (but extensible top 
> accents will be done the next few weeks because the engine needs to 
> rupport it). There is also a changed CJK handler (on by default but that 
> might change because of some overhead that it creates). Later this week, 
> in Korea I'll discuss some details that are boethering me esp how to 
> deal with crappy fonts, half width, etc.

What do you mean with half width, puctuation or something else?

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

Taco and I have decided to release a beta now. Officially there should 
have been a current end of december but there were too many things going 
on at the mkiv/luatex end to make that happen. Most changes concern mkiv 
anyway as we've kind of frozen mkii. Also, due to the number of changes 
in the lua code making a diff now would take too much time and not gain 
much.

The next current will be in the second half of februari. Before that we 
will have a series of alphas that use the new structure related code. 
They're alpha because for a while there might be some compatibility 
issues (solving them depends in testers noticing them).

This is also the first big deviation between mkii and mkiv, since it 
opens up the way to new functionality.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Taco and I have decided to release a beta now. Officially there should have
> been a current end of december but there were too many things going on at
> the mkiv/luatex end to make that happen. Most changes concern mkiv anyway as
> we've kind of frozen mkii. Also, due to the number of changes in the lua
> code making a diff now would take too much time and not gain much.
>
> The next current will be in the second half of februari. Before that we will
> have a series of alphas that use the new structure related code. They're
> alpha because for a while there might be some compatibility issues (solving
> them depends in testers noticing them).
>
> This is also the first big deviation between mkii and mkiv, since it opens
> up the way to new functionality.

OK, I have removed the lock in minimals, so the beta in minimals
reflects the state on your site again. The current version is "the old
patched beta" since the official current version doesn't work with the
latest luatex.

In theory one should not need to use luatools --selfupdate any more
when switching to older or newer versions of ConTeXt with mtx-update
(first-setup), but I would like to fix that in a slightly different
way one day.

Three less common platforms still lack tha latest luatex. (If that
includes your platform and you would like to use it, you can send me a
new binary.)

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Re: beta

[Yue Wang]

Hi, Hans:

what about math font? I am eager to use Asana Math, and cambria in my document:)
btw, is it really difficult to write a fontforge script to convert all
the math tfm/pfb into opentype MATH table?

Yue Wang

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>
> Taco and I have decided to release a beta now. Officially there should have
> been a current end of december but there were too many things going on at
> the mkiv/luatex end to make that happen. Most changes concern mkiv anyway as
> we've kind of frozen mkii. Also, due to the number of changes in the lua
> code making a diff now would take too much time and not gain much.
>
> The next current will be in the second half of februari. Before that we will
> have a series of alphas that use the new structure related code. They're
> alpha because for a while there might be some compatibility issues (solving
> them depends in testers noticing them).
>
> This is also the first big deviation between mkii and mkiv, since it opens
> up the way to new functionality.
>
> Hans
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Yue Wang wrote:
> Hi, Hans:
> 
> what about math font? I am eager to use Asana Math, and cambria in my document:)
> btw, is it really difficult to write a fontforge script to convert all
> the math tfm/pfb into opentype MATH table?

currently the math part of luatex is being opened up so in a few month 
you will see support for cambria showing up

concerning the ff script ... well, you can give it a try (if for the 
moment we forget about extendible symbols it should be doable)

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

i uploaded a beta that can handle

\starttext

\setinterfacecommand{setuphead}{stelleüberschriftein}
\section{Oeps}
\stelleüberschriftein[section][style=\bf]
\section{Oeps}

\defineregister[xüber]

test \xüber{oeps} oeps

\stoptext


now, for a persian interface, one needs to

= copy cont-en.tex to cont-xx.tex with xx being persian
= in cont-xx.tex change \defaultinterface to persian
= add the mapping from xx to persian to mult-def.tex
= add the xx entries to mult-def.lua (most work)
= run mtxrun --script interface --context
= make the xx format
= cross fingers and run a test file

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Re: beta

[Peter Münster]

On Thu, Oct 23 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:

> \defineregister[xüber]
> 
> test \xüber{oeps} oeps

Great, even "\def\höhö{blabla}" works!
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Re: beta

[Mehdi Omidali]

Thanks Hans,
I followed what you said and successfully generated persian interface
and now want to test it. How can I compile a file with an specific
interface. I tried "context --interface=cont-pe file" but it compiled
the file with en interface.
Thanks

On 10/23/08, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i uploaded a beta that can handle
>
> \starttext
>
> \setinterfacecommand{setuphead}{stelleüberschriftein}
> \section{Oeps}
> \stelleüberschriftein[section][style=\bf]
> \section{Oeps}
>
> \defineregister[xüber]
>
> test \xüber{oeps} oeps
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> now, for a persian interface, one needs to
>
> = copy cont-en.tex to cont-xx.tex with xx being persian
> = in cont-xx.tex change \defaultinterface to persian
> = add the mapping from xx to persian to mult-def.tex
> = add the xx entries to mult-def.lua (most work)
> = run mtxrun --script interface --context
> = make the xx format
> = cross fingers and run a test file
>
> Hans
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Mehdi Omidali wrote:
> Thanks Hans,
> I followed what you said and successfully generated persian interface
> and now want to test it. How can I compile a file with an specific
> interface. I tried "context --interface=cont-pe file" but it compiled
> the file with en interface.

can you send me the files you use (+ a test file)

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Re: beta

[Mehdi Omidali]

On 10/27/08, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Mehdi Omidali wrote:
>> Thanks Hans,
>> I followed what you said and successfully generated persian interface
>> and now want to test it. How can I compile a file with an specific
>> interface. I tried "context --interface=cont-pe file" but it compiled
>> the file with en interface.
>
> can you send me the files you use (+ a test file)
>
> Hans
I will send you the files in two days. I am out of town now.
Mehdi
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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new (mkiv) beta. The biggest change is that there are some 
optimizations in the cached mkiv font tables which should lead to (1) 
faster loading and (2) a smaller memory footprint. I may have messed 
some things in the process, so testing is appreciated.

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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:24 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new (mkiv) beta. The biggest change is that there are  
> some
> optimizations in the cached mkiv font tables which should lead to (1)
> faster loading and (2) a smaller memory footprint. I may have messed
> some things in the process, so testing is appreciated.
>
> Hans
>

Hi Hans,

one problem that I saw in a very brief test: |-| doesn't produce a  
hyphen in this beta; it works with version: 2007.12.07 19:14 (I can't  
test the beta before this one, haven't kept the zip file).

All best

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:24 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I uploaded a new (mkiv) beta. The biggest change is that there are  
>> some
>> optimizations in the cached mkiv font tables which should lead to (1)
>> faster loading and (2) a smaller memory footprint. I may have messed
>> some things in the process, so testing is appreciated.
>>
>> Hans
>>
> 
> Hi Hans,
> 
> one problem that I saw in a very brief test: |-| doesn't produce a  
> hyphen in this beta; it works with version: 2007.12.07 19:14 (I can't  
> test the beta before this one, haven't kept the zip file).

only mkiv?

btw, you can use

\setbreakpoints[compound]

so that blabla-blabla is handled automatically

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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Dec 14, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> only mkiv?
>
> btw, you can use
>
> \setbreakpoints[compound]
>
> so that blabla-blabla is handled automatically
>
> Hans

Yes, only mkiv.

I'll have to play with \setbreakpoints[compound]. It's a mkiv feature,  
right?

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On Dec 14, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
>> only mkiv?
>>
>> btw, you can use
>>
>> \setbreakpoints[compound]
>>
>> so that blabla-blabla is handled automatically
>>
>> Hans
> 
> Yes, only mkiv.

ok, i need to check if this is a mkiv or luatex problem

(eventually i will reimplement || using the new compund mechanism)

> I'll have to play with \setbreakpoints[compound]. It's a mkiv feature,  
> right?

in core-spa.mkiv you will find some definitions; we can add more; 
currently only + - . ( ) are handled

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[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

beware, i uploaded a new beta but when you use mkiv, you really need the 
latest luatex, so best wait til that one is available or compile yourself

(no pattern preloading, runtime loading of patterns)

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Re: beta

[Arthur Reutenauer]

> beware, i uploaded a new beta but when you use mkiv, you really need the 
> latest luatex, so best wait til that one is available or compile yourself

  Oh, so that's the problem I had when I installed the new beta today: I
had one error in lang-ini.lua, and later two errors for each language
defined ;-)

  It works fine with the latest revision.

> (no pattern preloading, runtime loading of patterns)

  Sounds great indeed :-)

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
>> beware, i uploaded a new beta but when you use mkiv, you really need the 
>> latest luatex, so best wait til that one is available or compile yourself
> 
>   Oh, so that's the problem I had when I installed the new beta today: I
> had one error in lang-ini.lua, and later two errors for each language
> defined ;-)
> 
>   It works fine with the latest revision.
> 
>> (no pattern preloading, runtime loading of patterns)
> 
>   Sounds great indeed :-)

btw loading all languages at runtime is faster than preloading

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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Oct 3, 2007, at 4:35 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

>> beware, i uploaded a new beta but when you use mkiv, you really  
>> need the
>> latest luatex, so best wait til that one is available or compile  
>> yourself
>
>   Oh, so that's the problem I had when I installed the new beta  
> today: I
> had one error in lang-ini.lua, and later two errors for each language
> defined ;-)
>
>   It works fine with the latest revision.

Same here, after compiling the latest trunk, it works.

>
>> (no pattern preloading, runtime loading of patterns)
>
>   Sounds great indeed :-)
>
> 	Arthur
>

Yes, this is great, but can we somehow reduce the verbosity of the  
output? My bit bucket is already full with lines like

processing
found a word (lang=2): hier
clean hyphens: 000000000000000000

Maybe luatex can find words without telling me about it? :-)

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On Oct 3, 2007, at 4:35 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
> 
>>> beware, i uploaded a new beta but when you use mkiv, you really  
>>> need the
>>> latest luatex, so best wait til that one is available or compile  
>>> yourself
>>   Oh, so that's the problem I had when I installed the new beta  
>> today: I
>> had one error in lang-ini.lua, and later two errors for each language
>> defined ;-)
>>
>>   It works fine with the latest revision.
> 
> Same here, after compiling the latest trunk, it works.
> 
>>> (no pattern preloading, runtime loading of patterns)
>>   Sounds great indeed :-)
>>
>> 	Arthur
>>
> 
> Yes, this is great, but can we somehow reduce the verbosity of the  
> output? My bit bucket is already full with lines like
> 
> processing
> found a word (lang=2): hier
> clean hyphens: 000000000000000000

that's the price for using an alpha versions -)

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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> 
> Yes, this is great, but can we somehow reduce the verbosity of the  
> output? My bit bucket is already full with lines like
> 
> processing
> found a word (lang=2): hier
> clean hyphens: 000000000000000000
> 
> Maybe luatex can find words without telling me about it? :-)

You'll have to learn to live with that, sorry. There are also
no ligatures in the trunk version.



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Re: beta

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Oct 3, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> You'll have to learn to live with that, sorry.

OK, will pretend my eyes aren't bleeding. :-)

> There are also
> no ligatures in the trunk version.
>
>
Hey, I was just going to complain about this...

Thanks

Thomas

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Hi,

I've uploaded a beta.

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

latest upload (in 10 minutes)

- static graphics with mpenvironments
- fix for modes and protection

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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

> > Can someone verify this error please or is there something wrong
> > with my code?
> 
> The figure file is not found here as well (2006.08.08).  But if I
> change it to:
> 
> \startMPrun
> \input test.mp
> \stopMPrun
> \starttext
> \externalfigure[w-mprun.1][width=15mm]
> \stoptext
> 
> then there's no problem (w.tex was the source file, hence the
> w-mprun).

This is not working here anymore.
not w-mprun.1, not mprun.1 and not test.1

w-mprun.1 is build both
the texish way (\input test.mp)
and metafontish (input test.mp;)

but is not found.

Wolfgang

Re: beta

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

Hallo!

This tries to include test.mp recursivly until level=25

\startMPrun{testmp}
input test.mp;
\stopMPrun

bug or myfault?

Wolfgang

Re: beta

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

> Some beta's back, the following was working.
> --------------------------
> \startMPrun
> \input test.mp
> \stopMPrun
> \starttext
> \externalfigure[test.1][width=15mm]
> \stoptext
> --------------------------
> with
> ----------test.mp---------
> beginfig(1)
>   draw (0,0) -- (1cm,1cm);
> endfig;
> end
> --------------------------
> Now, I get the error
> (figures : figure test.1 can not be found)
> with ConTeXt ver: 2006.09.17

Can someone verify this error please
or is there something wrong with my code?

Wolfgang

Re: beta

[Sanjoy Mahajan]

> Can someone verify this error please or is there something wrong
> with my code?

The figure file is not found here as well (2006.08.08).  But if I
change it to:

\startMPrun
\input test.mp
\stopMPrun
\starttext
\externalfigure[w-mprun.1][width=15mm]
\stoptext

then there's no problem (w.tex was the source file, hence the
w-mprun).

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Re: beta

[Willi Egger]

Hi Wolfgang,
I tested your code. The result is negativ. My installation complains 
abou tthe fact that the input file is not found

This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2c 7.5.3)
(testMPrun-mprun.mp
! I can't find file `test.mp'.
l.143 \input test.mp
using ConTeXt  ver: 2006.08.08 17:52  fmt: 2006.8.8  int: english  mes: 
english.

The same result occurs with ConTeXt  ver: 2006.09.13 23:47 MK II  fmt: 
2006.9.14  int: english/english

Willi


Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
>> Some beta's back, the following was working.
>> --------------------------
>> \startMPrun
>> \input test.mp
>> \stopMPrun
>> \starttext
>> \externalfigure[test.1][width=15mm]
>> \stoptext
>> --------------------------
>> with
>> ----------test.mp---------
>> beginfig(1)
>>   draw (0,0) -- (1cm,1cm);
>> endfig;
>> end
>> --------------------------
>> Now, I get the error
>> (figures : figure test.1 can not be found)
>> with ConTeXt ver: 2006.09.17
>>     
>
> Can someone verify this error please
> or is there something wrong with my code?
>
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Willi Egger wrote:
> Hi Wolfgang,
> I tested your code. The result is negativ. My installation complains 
> abou tthe fact that the input file is not found
>
> This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2c 7.5.3)
> (testMPrun-mprun.mp
> ! I can't find file `test.mp'.
> l.143 \input test.mp
just

input.mp

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Re: beta

[Willi Egger]

Thanks Hans, that was stupid me.

Still it is not solved. Now I get the messagage test.1 is not found. In 
the log however I see, that a file testMPrun-mprun.1 is written. If the 
test file is altered in such a way that this testMPrun-mprun.1 file 
should be loaded, I still get the message, that this file is not found. -- ?

Willi


Hans Hagen wrote:
> Willi Egger wrote:
>   
>> Hi Wolfgang,
>> I tested your code. The result is negativ. My installation complains 
>> abou tthe fact that the input file is not found
>>
>> This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2c 7.5.3)
>> (testMPrun-mprun.mp
>> ! I can't find file `test.mp'.
>> l.143 \input test.mp
>>     
> just
>
> input.mp
>
> no backslash 
>
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beta

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

Hallo!

Some beta's back, the following was working.
--------------------------
\startMPrun
\input test.mp
\stopMPrun
\starttext
\externalfigure[test.1][width=15mm]
\stoptext
--------------------------
with
----------test.mp---------
beginfig(1)
  draw (0,0) -- (1cm,1cm);
endfig;
end
--------------------------
Now, I get the error
(figures : figure test.1 can not be found)
with ConTeXt ver: 2006.09.17

Wolfgang

beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a beta release. If no further problems with the upgraded 
figure inclusion and adapted metapost conversion are reported, we will 
go current (otherwise a changelog will be impossible, even if most 
changes are not reportable anyway)


Hans

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Re: beta

[Bernd Militzer]

Hans Hagen schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a beta release. If no further problems with the upgraded 
> figure inclusion and adapted metapost conversion are reported, we will 
> go current (otherwise a changelog will be impossible, even if most 
> changes are not reportable anyway)
>
>
> Hans
>
>   
Hi Hans,

\placetable[here,force][Nr15-1]
{none}
{\startcombination[2]
{\externalfigure[Kto1A.tmp][width=0.5\textwidth]}{}
{\externalfigure[Kto1B.tmp][width=0.5\textwidth]}{}
\stopcombination}


produce:

! Missing number, treated as zero.
<to be read again>
                   \@@co2height
\dostartcombination ...nationparameter \c!height }
                                                  \bgroup \expanded 
{\dodost...
<to be read again>
                   {
l.68 {
      \externalfigure[Kto1A.tmp][width=0.5\textwidth]}{}
?

that problem is not fixed!?

Bernd

Re: beta

[Peter Münster]

On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Bernd Militzer wrote:

> {\startcombination[2]

"2" is not a matrix. Try \startcombination[1*2] or \startcombination[2*1].
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Re: beta

[Bernd Militzer]

Peter Münster schrieb:
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Bernd Militzer wrote:
>
>   
>> {\startcombination[2]
>>     
>
> "2" is not a matrix. Try \startcombination[1*2] or \startcombination[2*1].
> Cheers, Peter
>
>   
thanks Peter,
it works again. With version 5.2.4 it worked also with "2" alone

Bernd

Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Bernd Militzer wrote:
> Peter M�nster schrieb:
>   
>> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, Bernd Militzer wrote:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> {\startcombination[2]
>>>     
>>>       
>> "2" is not a matrix. Try \startcombination[1*2] or \startcombination[2*1].
>> Cheers, Peter
>>
>>   
>>     
> thanks Peter,
> it works again. With version 5.2.4 it worked also with "2" alone
>   

there was a wrong assignment in the following: (core-mis)

\def\dostartcombination[#1][#2]%
  {\global\setsystemmode{combination}%
   \doifnothing{#1}\firstargumentfalse  
   \doifnothing{#2}\secondargumentfalse 
   \ifsecondargument
     \def\currentcombination{#1}%
     \edef\currentcombinationspec{#2*1*}%
   \else 
     \let\currentcombination\empty
     \doifinstringelse{*}{#1}
       {\edef\currentcombinationspec{#1*1*}}
       {\edef\currentcombinationspec{2*1*}}%
   \fi
   \forgetall
   \doifelse{\combinationparameter\c!height}\v!fit
     \vbox {\vbox to \combinationparameter\c!height}%
   \bgroup
   \expanded{\dodostartcombination[\currentcombinationspec]}}

\startcombination
    {test} {x}
    {test} {x}
\stopcombination

\startcombination[2*1]
    {test} {x}
    {test} {x}
\stopcombination

\startcombination[1*2]
    {test} {x}
    {test} {x}
\stopcombination

\startcombination[2]
    {test} {x}
    {test} {x}
\stopcombination


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Re: beta

[Bernd Militzer]

Hi Hans,

producing a table over several pages

1. the running tablehead is only on first page
2. the running tablefoot is only on the last page

that problem is also not fixed.

Bernd


%%% ---- TestFile
%
\starttext
%
\SetTableToWidth{\textwidth}
\setuptables[split=yes,bodyfont=9pt]
\starttablehead
\HL
%
\NC\use{2}\ReFormat[lp(0.28\textwidth)]{Datum\hfill Ereignis} \NC Person 
\NC PID \NC {\it PID} \NC\tfx  Seite\NC\tfx Beleg\NC\FR % << \AR
\HL
\stoptablehead
\starttabletail
\HL
\stoptabletail
%
\starttables[|lp(0.2\textwidth)|lp(0.04\textwidth)|lp(0.3\textwidth)|lp(0.05\textwidth)|lp(0.05\textwidth)|rp(0.06\textwidth)|lp(0.05\textwidth)|]
%
\dorecurse{50}{
\NC 2006-08-18 \NC U \NC Militzer, Bernd\NC 002\NC 003\NC \NC J\NC\AR
\NC 1771-12-05 \NC G \NC Rudolph, Johann Heinrich\NC 134\NC 135\NC \NC 
J\NC\AR
}
\NC\NC\NC\NC\NC\NC\NC\NC\LR %<< Last Row \LR
%
\stoptables

\stoptext

Re: beta

[Bernd Militzer]

Hi Hans,

please check the running table-heads

producing a table over several pages
1. the running tablehead is only on first page
2. the running tablefoot is only on the last page

that was not in version 5.2.4 

% -- TestFile
\starttext
%
\SetTableToWidth{\textwidth}
\setuptables[split=yes,bodyfont=9pt]
\starttablehead
\HL
%
\NC Datum\NC Text\NC\FR % << \AR
\HL
\stoptablehead
\starttabletail
\HL
\stoptabletail
%
\starttables[|l|l|]
%
\dorecurse{50}{
\NC 2006-08-18 \NC TestTest 1\NC\AR
\NC 1771-12-05 \NC TestTest 2\NC\AR
}
\NC\NC\NC\LR %<< Last Row \AR
%
\stoptables

\stoptext

thanks

Bernd

Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Bernd Militzer wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> producing a table over several pages
>
> 1. the running tablehead is only on first page
> 2. the running tablefoot is only on the last page
>
> that problem is also not fixed.
>
> Bernd
>
>
> %%% ---- TestFile
> %
> \starttext
> %
> \SetTableToWidth{\textwidth}
> \setuptables[split=yes,bodyfont=9pt]
>   
ok, i'll fix this (starttables is kind of obsolete; all table commands accept split=auto|yes|repeat 

[auto means that they will split when needed] 

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Re: beta

[Bernd Militzer]

Hans Hagen schrieb:
>
>> \starttext
>> %
>> \SetTableToWidth{\textwidth}
>> \setuptables[split=yes,bodyfont=9pt]
>>   
>>     
> ok, i'll fix this (starttables is kind of obsolete; all table commands accept split=auto|yes|repeat 
>
> [auto means that they will split when needed] 
>
>   
Hi Hans
did You have time to fix it?

Bernd

Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Bernd Militzer wrote:
> Hans Hagen schrieb:
>   
>>> \starttext
>>> %
>>> \SetTableToWidth{\textwidth}
>>> \setuptables[split=yes,bodyfont=9pt]
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> ok, i'll fix this (starttables is kind of obsolete; all table commands accept split=auto|yes|repeat 
>>
>> [auto means that they will split when needed] 
>>
>>   
>>     
> Hi Hans
> did You have time to fix it?
>   
not yet; too busy trying to let context read from zip files 

Hans 

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Bernd Militzer wrote:
> Hans Hagen schrieb:
>   
>>> \starttext
>>> %
>>> \SetTableToWidth{\textwidth}
>>> \setuptables[split=yes,bodyfont=9pt]
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> ok, i'll fix this (starttables is kind of obsolete; all table commands accept split=auto|yes|repeat 
>>
>> [auto means that they will split when needed] 
>>
>>   
>>     
> Hi Hans
> did You have time to fix it?
>   
can you check if it works in the current beta? 

Hans 

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Re: beta

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

> a new beta:
> 
> - cloned figure numbers fixed

Before this beta, the following compiled ok
but didn't use davidsnumber as figurenumber.

With the last beta I got the appended error!
--------------------------------number.tex
\defineenumeration[whatever]
\definenumber[davidsnumber]
\setupnumber[whatever][number=davidsnumber]
\setupnumber[formula] [number=davidsnumber]
\setupnumber[figure][number=davidsnumber]
%\setupcaption[figure][number=davidsnumber]

\starttext

\placeformula[x]
    \startformula x\stopformula

\startwhatever x\stopwhatever

\placeformula[x]
    \startformula y\stopformula

\startwhatever y\stopwhatever

\placefigure{image}
  {\framed[width=.3\textwidth,height=1cm]{image}}

\startwhatever z\stopwhatever
\stoptext
------------------------------number.log
! Missing number, treated as zero.
<to be read again> 
                   \node:n:floatnumberdavidsnumber 
\pluscounter ...the \numexpr \csname #1\endcsname 
                                                  +\plusone \relax }
<argument> ...ion {\v!float \@@thenumber {figure}}
                                                  
\analyzenodelocation {\v!f...

\secondoftwoarguments #1#2->#2
                              
\docompletefloat ...\else \preparefloatnumber {#1}
                                                  \global \setbox 
\floatbox ...
<argument> ...{}{figure}{}{figure}{image}\nextbox 
                                                  \else 
\docompletefloat {fi...
...
l.22 ...med[width=.3\textwidth,height=1cm]{image}}
------------------------------------------------

The next example has not changed its behaviour,
works not as expected with beta, too.
--------------------------------------tst.tex
\starttext
\placefigure{}{\framed{Blub}}
\placefigure{}{\framed{Bautz}}
\placefigure{}{\framed{Bla}}

Das waren jetzt \rawnumber[figure] Bilder!

\setnumber[figure]{8}
Wir wollen mit \rawnumber[figure] weiterzählen.

\placefigure{}{\framed{Plong}}

Zähler ist korrekt bei \rawnumber[figure], aber caption bei 4.
\stoptext
---------------------------------------------

Last question: verb-c.tex is not changed (updated). Will this be 
included in futher betas?

Wolfgang

beta

[Hans Hagen]

a new beta:

- cloned figure numbers fixed
- new shades should work ok now
- txt in mp should work again now

Hans  

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

the problem with the missing resource in reused mp graphic is fixed

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

I uploaded a beta. Brave users met test if their mp graphics still come 
out well since i cleaned up some of the mp to pdf code.

Hans

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Re: beta

[Peter Rolf]

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Hans Hagen wrote:
> I uploaded a beta. Brave users met test if their mp graphics still come 
> out well since i cleaned up some of the mp to pdf code.
>
Hans, 'don't change a winning team' ;)
Testfile is attached.

Peter

> Hans
> 


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\setuplayout[pdftex]
\setupcolors[state=start]

\startuniqueMPgraphic{test}
  circular_shade(OverlayBox,2,red,green) ;
\stopuniqueMPgraphic

\defineoverlay[test][\uniqueMPgraphic{test}]

\starttext

\framed[background=test, width=40mm, height=20mm]{Broken}

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Re: beta

[Willi Egger]

Hi,

without the discussion whether or not to brave ... :-)

I tested the new beta on some 50 Metapost/Metafun graphics. In one case 
I had the figures just placed with \useMPgraphic. In the other case the 
figures where setup as \startTEXpage. As far as I can see the pictures 
look ok.


Willi

Hans Hagen wrote:
> I uploaded a beta. Brave users met test if their mp graphics still come 
> out well since i cleaned up some of the mp to pdf code.
>
> Hans
>
>   

beta

[Hans Hagen]

I uploaded a new beta (a few fixes to fig bases [better adapted to new 
core-fig] and overlays [more robust for dimen0])

Hans 

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Re: beta

[Peter Rolf]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> I uploaded a new beta (a few fixes to fig bases [better adapted to new 
> core-fig] and overlays [more robust for dimen0])
> 
No problems with overlays any more. Thanks Hans!
Also thanks for the explanation of the register usage. I'll try to use
an own register set in the future.

Greetings, Peter

> Hans 
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beta

[Hans Hagen]

I uploaded a beta:

- some TABLE extensions
- a new (read: better) 'renumbering' feature (important when floats move 
to top/bottom of pages)
- a small fix to itemize (bug crept in during optimization some time ago)

Hans 

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

a uploaded a beta:

- TABLE -> n/m cell access
- regimes -> more and better (for mojca to check)
- french -> mp actrive ; fix

- for testers only:  

you can make a tree, say: 

.../tex/texmf-beta 

and unzip context in there

then you can say (windows): 

SET TEXMFBETA=.../tex/texmf-beta 

and run 

newtexexec --beta --make .... 
newtexexec --beta somefile

this test tree is plugged into TEXMFPROJECT which should be part of your texmf.cnf setup 

Hans 

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I'm uploading a beta that may work better with xml and special encodings 
...

\enableregime[cp1250]
\mainlanguage[cz]

\starttext

\title{Žluouècí konì úpí}

\placelist[chapter][criterium=all]

\startbuffer
<chapter>
    <title>Žluouècí konì úpí</title>
</chapter>
\stopbuffer

\defineXMLenvironment
  [chapter]
  {\defineXMLsave[title]}
  {\expanded{\chapter{\XMLflush{title}}}}

\processXMLbuffer

\setuphead[chapter][expansion=yes]

\defineXMLenvironment
  [chapter]
  {\defineXMLsave[title]}
  {\chapter{\XMLflush{title}}}

\processXMLbuffer

\page

\index{Žluouècí konì úpí}

\placeregister[index]

\stoptext

... i'd like users of code pages and languages that use special 
characters to make test files for the test suite (hosted at the gforce 
server, see earlier mails)

once we have a clear picture of what to expect, i can 'make things 
better' (cleaner -)

also, since we will switch to newtexexec (becoming texexec then) soon, 
sorting etc will be taken care of there (i did some tests and it seems 
to work ok)

if this beta works ok (please test today -) we can go current

Hans

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Re: beta

[Martin Kolařík]

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Hi Hans,

you are a magician :-)

I've included 8bit.zip which I processed using the latest beta (11:13 today). Heads are OK, but there is still difference in TOC entries. I did not analyze everything and I did not try play with expansion=yes/no and of course I do not know if the first case (chapterA) is not OK from some point of view even if the A head and A TOC entry differs,

thank you very much,

Martin

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Hi,

I'm uploading a beta that may work better with xml and special encodings 
...

\enableregime[cp1250]
\mainlanguage[cz]

\starttext

\title{Žluouècí konì úpí}

\placelist[chapter][criterium=all]

\startbuffer
<chapter>
    <title>Žluouècí konì úpí</title>
</chapter>
\stopbuffer

\defineXMLenvironment
  [chapter]
  {\defineXMLsave[title]}
  {\expanded{\chapter{\XMLflush{title}}}}

\processXMLbuffer

\setuphead[chapter][expansion=yes]

\defineXMLenvironment
  [chapter]
  {\defineXMLsave[title]}
  {\chapter{\XMLflush{title}}}

\processXMLbuffer

\page

\index{Žluouècí konì úpí}

\placeregister[index]

\stoptext

... i'd like users of code pages and languages that use special 
characters to make test files for the test suite (hosted at the gforce 
server, see earlier mails)

once we have a clear picture of what to expect, i can 'make things 
better' (cleaner -)

also, since we will switch to newtexexec (becoming texexec then) soon, 
sorting etc will be taken care of there (i did some tests and it seems 
to work ok)

if this beta works ok (please test today -) we can go current

Hans

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Martin Kolařík wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> you are a magician :-)
>
> I've included 8bit.zip which I processed using the latest beta (11:13 today). Heads are OK, but there is still difference in TOC entries. I did not analyze everything and I did not try play with expansion=yes/no and of course I do not know if the first case (chapterA) is not OK from some point of view even if the A head and A TOC entry differs,
>   
you need the afternoon beta (the morning one was for testing modules) 

Hans 

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

later taco will give more details about changes/additions in his change-log

for the moment:

- for index users: you can test utf 8, sort order (swedish) etc

- for cp1250 users: it's there and you only need to give \enableregime 
since the vector will be loaded at runtime

- for mojca: take a look at regi-syn and let me know what vectors need 
to be be added to the distribution

- for taco: thanks for your patience but textext seems to work ok now

Hans 

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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> later taco will give more details about changes/additions in his change-log

Mojca, it would be nice if you could give a go/nogo signal quickly.
I am slowly getting drowned with all the diff files so I am really
eager to have Hans go ahead and release a new version :)


Here is the list compared to the 2006.03.31 beta.

new files:
* regi-cp1250.tex, regi-syn.tex




tex.rb:
* additional tcxflag-s when calling pdftex and mpost
* extra \setupsystem[\c!method=2]
* use one dash in front of passed-on options (instead of gnu-style
   double dashes)
* processmpx fixes so that textext() works again

texutil.rb:
* downcasing (register sort routines)

context.tex:
* \input sort-ini.tex  (only when newtexexec is used)
* \TEXEXECcommand{texmfstart newtexexec} when newtexexec is used
   (bugfix for textext())

core-itm.tex:
* new, expanded macro \getitemparameter

core-ref.tex:
* some \predefinereference and \predefinedreference changes (?)

core-sys.tex:
* new macro \systemparameter (for the \input sort-ini test)

enco-ini.tex:
* \docurrentencoding renamed to \dopureencodingname

meta-ini.tex:
* \settrue \manyMPspecials

page-flt.tex:
* "retain special alignments"

page-lay.tex:
* extended tests for layout states

page-txt.tex:
* optimization for background  calculations
* extended tests for layout states

sort-ini.tex:
* extra \savesortkey magic

sort-lan.tex:
* a bit of extra (test) code for sorting

supp-mps.tex:
* use \TEXEXECcommand

Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 4/4/06, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>
> Hans Hagen wrote:
> > Hi,
> >

>> - for mojca: take a look at regi-syn and let me know what vectors need
>> to be be added to the distribution

>
> Mojca, it would be nice if you could give a go/nogo signal quickly.
> I am slowly getting drowned with all the diff files so I am really
> eager to have Hans go ahead and release a new version :)

Taco & Hans: I'm really really really sorry. I didn't notice that
question in thousands of mails on the list.

Thanks a lot for adding the file, Hans!

This line
\defineregimesynonym[cp-1250]     [cp1250]
is not really needed: I never spotted any cp125* with a hyphen
inbetween (in contrast to utf or iso encodings), otherwise everything
seems to be working ok.

\defineregimesynonym[1250]     [cp1250]
is also OK (didn't thought about it ;).


If you're asking me about the other changes: here's the same list that
I already suggested:

renaming:

windows -> cp1252
il1 -> iso-8858-1
latin2 -> iso-8858-2
iso88595 -> iso-8858-5
grk -> iso-8859-7


And then adding the following definitions (cp1250 is already there):

\defineregimesynonym[utf-8][utf]
\defineregimesynonym[utf8][utf]

\defineregimesynonym[windows-1250][cp1250]
\defineregimesynonym[windows-1251][cp1251]
\defineregimesynonym[windows-1252][cp1252]
\defineregimesynonym[windows-1253][cp1253]
\defineregimesynonym[windows-1254][cp1254]
%defineregimesynonym[windows-1255][cp1255] % not supported yet (Hebrew)
%defineregimesynonym[windows-1256][cp1256] % not supported yet (Arabic)
\defineregimesynonym[windows-1257][cp1257]
%defineregimesynonym[windows-1258][cp1258] % not supported yet (Vietnamese)

% for historical reasons / compatibility
\defineregimesynonym[windows][cp1252]

% 5 - Cyrillic
% 6 - Arabic (not supported)
% 7 - Greek
% 8 - Hebrew (3 signs missing)
% 11 - Thai (not supported)

\defineregimesynonym[il1][iso-8859-1]
\defineregimesynonym[il2][iso-8859-2]
\defineregimesynonym[il3][iso-8859-3]
\defineregimesynonym[il4][iso-8859-4]
\defineregimesynonym[il5][iso-8859-9]
\defineregimesynonym[il6][iso-8859-10]
\defineregimesynonym[il7][iso-8859-13]
%defineregimesynonym[il8][iso-8859-14]
\defineregimesynonym[il9][iso-8859-15]
\defineregimesynonym[il10][iso-8859-16]

\defineregimesynonym[latin1][iso-8859-1]
\defineregimesynonym[latin2][iso-8859-2]
\defineregimesynonym[latin3][iso-8859-3]
\defineregimesynonym[latin4][iso-8859-4]
\defineregimesynonym[latin5][iso-8859-9]
\defineregimesynonym[latin6][iso-8859-10]
\defineregimesynonym[latin7][iso-8859-13]
%defineregimesynonym[latin8][iso-8859-14]
\defineregimesynonym[latin9][iso-8859-15]
\defineregimesynonym[latin10][iso-8859-16]

% for historical reasons / compatibility
\defineregimesynonym[iso88595][iso-8859-5]
\defineregimesynonym[grk][iso-8859-7]



I don't know whether and how often people use all those encodings (I'm
only pretty sure that people use the cp1250 one). LaTeX offers all of
them for example. I would suggest at least to rename the five regimes
mentioned above and to point to the more consistent names using
synonyms. The mentioned regimes are all present on
http://pub.mojca.org/tex/enco/contextbase/, so it's up to you wheter
you add any of the other regimes to the distribution or perhaps better
wait till someone requests them. (There are so many files that taking
them all would almost require a separate folder.) I'm happy now that
cp1250 is in and I'm not using any other regime, so it's really not my
decision.

As far as I remember there were also some inconsistencies in the
present greek and cyrillic regime.
http://pub.mojca.org/tex/enco/contextbase/regi-vis.tex is slightly
different than the file in the distro (uses named glyphs), but
conceptually the same.

Mojca

Re: beta

[Vit Zyka]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On 4/4/06, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
>>
>>Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
> 
> 
>>>- for mojca: take a look at regi-syn and let me know what vectors need
>>>to be be added to the distribution
> 
> 
>>Mojca, it would be nice if you could give a go/nogo signal quickly.
>>I am slowly getting drowned with all the diff files so I am really
>>eager to have Hans go ahead and release a new version :)
> 
> 
> Taco & Hans: I'm really really really sorry. I didn't notice that
> question in thousands of mails on the list.
> 
> Thanks a lot for adding the file, Hans!
> 
> This line
> \defineregimesynonym[cp-1250]     [cp1250]
> is not really needed: I never spotted any cp125* with a hyphen
> inbetween (in contrast to utf or iso encodings), otherwise everything
> seems to be working ok.
> 
> \defineregimesynonym[1250]     [cp1250]
> is also OK (didn't thought about it ;).
> 
> 
> If you're asking me about the other changes: here's the same list that
> I already suggested:
> 
> renaming:
> 
> windows -> cp1252
> il1 -> iso-8858-1
> latin2 -> iso-8858-2
> iso88595 -> iso-8858-5
                     ^^
Everywhere should be 8859!

Everything else seems all right to me.
Vit

> grk -> iso-8859-7

> 
> 
> And then adding the following definitions (cp1250 is already there):
> 
> \defineregimesynonym[utf-8][utf]
> \defineregimesynonym[utf8][utf]
> 
> \defineregimesynonym[windows-1250][cp1250]
> \defineregimesynonym[windows-1251][cp1251]
> \defineregimesynonym[windows-1252][cp1252]
> \defineregimesynonym[windows-1253][cp1253]
> \defineregimesynonym[windows-1254][cp1254]
> %defineregimesynonym[windows-1255][cp1255] % not supported yet (Hebrew)
> %defineregimesynonym[windows-1256][cp1256] % not supported yet (Arabic)
> \defineregimesynonym[windows-1257][cp1257]
> %defineregimesynonym[windows-1258][cp1258] % not supported yet (Vietnamese)
> 
> % for historical reasons / compatibility
> \defineregimesynonym[windows][cp1252]
> 
> % 5 - Cyrillic
> % 6 - Arabic (not supported)
> % 7 - Greek
> % 8 - Hebrew (3 signs missing)
> % 11 - Thai (not supported)
> 
> \defineregimesynonym[il1][iso-8859-1]
> \defineregimesynonym[il2][iso-8859-2]
> \defineregimesynonym[il3][iso-8859-3]
> \defineregimesynonym[il4][iso-8859-4]
> \defineregimesynonym[il5][iso-8859-9]
> \defineregimesynonym[il6][iso-8859-10]
> \defineregimesynonym[il7][iso-8859-13]
> %defineregimesynonym[il8][iso-8859-14]
> \defineregimesynonym[il9][iso-8859-15]
> \defineregimesynonym[il10][iso-8859-16]
> 
> \defineregimesynonym[latin1][iso-8859-1]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin2][iso-8859-2]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin3][iso-8859-3]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin4][iso-8859-4]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin5][iso-8859-9]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin6][iso-8859-10]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin7][iso-8859-13]
> %defineregimesynonym[latin8][iso-8859-14]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin9][iso-8859-15]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin10][iso-8859-16]
> 
> % for historical reasons / compatibility
> \defineregimesynonym[iso88595][iso-8859-5]
> \defineregimesynonym[grk][iso-8859-7]
> 
> 
> 
> I don't know whether and how often people use all those encodings (I'm
> only pretty sure that people use the cp1250 one). LaTeX offers all of
> them for example. I would suggest at least to rename the five regimes
> mentioned above and to point to the more consistent names using
> synonyms. The mentioned regimes are all present on
> http://pub.mojca.org/tex/enco/contextbase/, so it's up to you wheter
> you add any of the other regimes to the distribution or perhaps better
> wait till someone requests them. (There are so many files that taking
> them all would almost require a separate folder.) I'm happy now that
> cp1250 is in and I'm not using any other regime, so it's really not my
> decision.
> 
> As far as I remember there were also some inconsistencies in the
> present greek and cyrillic regime.
> http://pub.mojca.org/tex/enco/contextbase/regi-vis.tex is slightly
> different than the file in the distro (uses named glyphs), but
> conceptually the same.
> 
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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On 4/4/06, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>   
>> Hans Hagen wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>       
>
>   
>>> - for mojca: take a look at regi-syn and let me know what vectors need
>>> to be be added to the distribution
>>>       
>
>   
>> Mojca, it would be nice if you could give a go/nogo signal quickly.
>> I am slowly getting drowned with all the diff files so I am really
>> eager to have Hans go ahead and release a new version :)
>>     
>
> Taco & Hans: I'm really really really sorry. I didn't notice that
> question in thousands of mails on the list.
>
> Thanks a lot for adding the file, Hans!
>
> This line
> \defineregimesynonym[cp-1250]     [cp1250]
> is not really needed: I never spotted any cp125* with a hyphen
> inbetween (in contrast to utf or iso encodings), otherwise everything
> seems to be working ok.
>
> \defineregimesynonym[1250]     [cp1250]
> is also OK (didn't thought about it ;).
>
>
> If you're asking me about the other changes: here's the same list that
> I already suggested:
>
> renaming:
>
> windows -> cp1252
> il1 -> iso-8858-1
> latin2 -> iso-8858-2
> iso88595 -> iso-8858-5
> grk -> iso-8859-7
>
>
> And then adding the following definitions (cp1250 is already there):
>
> \defineregimesynonym[utf-8][utf]
> \defineregimesynonym[utf8][utf]
>
> \defineregimesynonym[windows-1250][cp1250]
> \defineregimesynonym[windows-1251][cp1251]
> \defineregimesynonym[windows-1252][cp1252]
> \defineregimesynonym[windows-1253][cp1253]
> \defineregimesynonym[windows-1254][cp1254]
> %defineregimesynonym[windows-1255][cp1255] % not supported yet (Hebrew)
> %defineregimesynonym[windows-1256][cp1256] % not supported yet (Arabic)
> \defineregimesynonym[windows-1257][cp1257]
> %defineregimesynonym[windows-1258][cp1258] % not supported yet (Vietnamese)
>
> % for historical reasons / compatibility
> \defineregimesynonym[windows][cp1252]
>
> % 5 - Cyrillic
> % 6 - Arabic (not supported)
> % 7 - Greek
> % 8 - Hebrew (3 signs missing)
> % 11 - Thai (not supported)
>
> \defineregimesynonym[il1][iso-8859-1]
> \defineregimesynonym[il2][iso-8859-2]
> \defineregimesynonym[il3][iso-8859-3]
> \defineregimesynonym[il4][iso-8859-4]
> \defineregimesynonym[il5][iso-8859-9]
> \defineregimesynonym[il6][iso-8859-10]
> \defineregimesynonym[il7][iso-8859-13]
> %defineregimesynonym[il8][iso-8859-14]
> \defineregimesynonym[il9][iso-8859-15]
> \defineregimesynonym[il10][iso-8859-16]
>
> \defineregimesynonym[latin1][iso-8859-1]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin2][iso-8859-2]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin3][iso-8859-3]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin4][iso-8859-4]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin5][iso-8859-9]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin6][iso-8859-10]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin7][iso-8859-13]
> %defineregimesynonym[latin8][iso-8859-14]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin9][iso-8859-15]
> \defineregimesynonym[latin10][iso-8859-16]
>
> % for historical reasons / compatibility
> \defineregimesynonym[iso88595][iso-8859-5]
> \defineregimesynonym[grk][iso-8859-7]
>
>
>
> I don't know whether and how often people use all those encodings (I'm
> only pretty sure that people use the cp1250 one). LaTeX offers all of
> them for example. I would suggest at least to rename the five regimes
> mentioned above and to point to the more consistent names using
> synonyms. The mentioned regimes are all present on
> http://pub.mojca.org/tex/enco/contextbase/, so it's up to you wheter
> you add any of the other regimes to the distribution or perhaps better
> wait till someone requests them. (There are so many files that taking
> them all would almost require a separate folder.) I'm happy now that
> cp1250 is in and I'm not using any other regime, so it's really not my
> decision.
>
> As far as I remember there were also some inconsistencies in the
> present greek and cyrillic regime.
> http://pub.mojca.org/tex/enco/contextbase/regi-vis.tex is slightly
> different than the file in the distro (uses named glyphs), but
> conceptually the same.
>   
cyrillic is indeed a bit messy

can you check the alpha zips that i just uploaded?

(I wonder is we still need to preload regimes, maybe the ones mostly 
used ... which ones)

Hans

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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

> cyrillic is indeed a bit messy
>
> can you check the alpha zips that i just uploaded?
>
> (I wonder is we still need to preload regimes, maybe the ones mostly
> used ... which ones)

I'll check iso-8858-1 and iso-8859-7 (I think that I remember some
differences from the auto-generated files), but I don't have any more
time today.

cp1251 is now duplicated in regi-cyr (although I didn't check for
differences today - see
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/24677/ about
cyrillic).

> % todo: regi-cyp has more in it
> % \defineregimesynonym [iso88595]     [iso-8859-5]

Why is this commented out? You don't need to rename or to reorganize
the files - you may only rename the regime vector and then put the
synonym for backward compatibility (otherwise everything else but
iso-8859-5 with hyphens will work: just because of consistency).

> \defineregimesynonym [windows-1250] [cp1250]

duplicated

> \defineregimesynonym [1250]         [cp1250]

I guess that we don't need 1250 for historical reasons: Either we put
all ten of them or none.

In what way does \startregime[cp1250pl] (in regi-cpl) differ from
cp1250 except that it's incomplete? Could cp1250pl be a synonym for
cp1250 (for compatibility reasons) as well? (I remember some
--translate=cp1250cs switches as well, but I guess that this operated
on another level)

Thanks a lot for adding all that,
    Mojca

Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>> cyrillic is indeed a bit messy
>>
>> can you check the alpha zips that i just uploaded?
>>
>> (I wonder is we still need to preload regimes, maybe the ones mostly
>> used ... which ones)
>>     
>
> I'll check iso-8858-1 and iso-8859-7 (I think that I remember some
> differences from the auto-generated files), but I don't have any more
> time today.
>
> cp1251 is now duplicated in regi-cyr (although I didn't check for
> differences today - see
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/24677/ about
> cyrillic).
>
>   
>> % todo: regi-cyp has more in it
>> % \defineregimesynonym [iso88595]     [iso-8859-5]
>>     
>
> Why is this commented out? You don't need to rename or to reorganize
> the files - you may only rename the regime vector and then put the
> synonym for backward compatibility (otherwise everything else but
> iso-8859-5 with hyphens will work: just because of consistency).
>   
sure, but i was unsure about this vector (esp since regi-cyp has 
variants in it); anyhow, uncommented now
>   
>> \defineregimesynonym [windows-1250] [cp1250]
>>     
>
> duplicated
>
>   
>> \defineregimesynonym [1250]         [cp1250]
>>     
>
> I guess that we don't need 1250 for historical reasons: Either we put
> all ten of them or none.
>   
ok
> In what way does \startregime[cp1250pl] (in regi-cpl) differ from
> cp1250 except that it's incomplete? Could cp1250pl be a synonym for
> cp1250 (for compatibility reasons) as well? (I remember some
> --translate=cp1250cs switches as well, but I guess that this operated
>   
this translate stuff is not needed
> on another level)
>   
ah, that one mistakenly ended up in the zip because of a regi-cp* copy
> Thanks a lot for adding all that,
>   
well, it's you who maintain them now -)

Hans

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Re: beta

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 4/8/06, Hans Hagen wrote:
> (I wonder is we still need to preload regimes, maybe the ones mostly
> used ... which ones)

If I knew how to do that, I would implement it in the following way:

Somewhere it would be defined where a specific regime is located
    \defineregimefile[cp1250][regi-cp1250]
    ...
    \defineregimefile[isoir111][regi-cyp]
    ...

Then you don't need to read all those files / preload all those
regimes (except for the really common ones). So if someone says
    \enableregime[windows-1250]
then ConTeXt knows that it is a synonym for cp1250, that cp1250 is
located in regi-cp1250.tex and finally loads the appropriate file and
enables the regime.

I don't know what exactly "preloading" means (are the definitions
already included in format or are the files read in at runtime?) I
doubt that it would save any resources that way, but in case it would,
the regimes might be preloaded depending on mainlanguage. (If someone
typesets Slovenian texts, it would preloa utf, cp1250 and latin2, if
someone typesets russian, you would preload cyrilic regimes, ...)

Otherwise I would say: if the regimes eat a lot of memory, don't
preload the new ones yet (except cp1250) until someone requests them.

Mojca

Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On 4/8/06, Hans Hagen wrote:
>   
>> (I wonder is we still need to preload regimes, maybe the ones mostly
>> used ... which ones)
>>     
>
> If I knew how to do that, I would implement it in the following way:
>
> Somewhere it would be defined where a specific regime is located
>     \defineregimefile[cp1250][regi-cp1250]
>     ...
>     \defineregimefile[isoir111][regi-cyp]
>     ...
>
> Then you don't need to read all those files / preload all those
> regimes (except for the really common ones). So if someone says
>     \enableregime[windows-1250]
> then ConTeXt knows that it is a synonym for cp1250, that cp1250 is
> located in regi-cp1250.tex and finally loads the appropriate file and
> enables the regime.
>   
actually, this is what happens when a regime is not preloaded (i.e. see 
end of regi-ini)

currently:

\useregime[def,uni,iso-8858-1,iso-8858-2,cp1252,mac]

maybe:

\useregime[def,uni] % rest runtime

> I don't know what exactly "preloading" means (are the definitions
> already included in format or are the files read in at runtime?) I
>   
a few are in the format, eating up hash entries and memory; but since 
regimes are global anyway ...
> doubt that it would save any resources that way, but in case it would,
> the regimes might be preloaded depending on mainlanguage. (If someone
> typesets Slovenian texts, it would preloa utf, cp1250 and latin2, if
> someone typesets russian, you would preload cyrilic regimes, ...)
>
> Otherwise I would say: if the regimes eat a lot of memory, don't
> preload the new ones yet (except cp1250) until someone requests them.
>   
or preload none since loading is fast enough 

Hans 

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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
> or preload none since loading is fast enough 

Agreed (there are never any assumptions abour preloaded regimes, are
there?). The mess with iso-8859-1 is more or less my fault. I fixed
up iso-8859-15 but never bothered with the old one.

Taco

Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
>   
>> or preload none since loading is fast enough 
>>     
>
> Agreed (there are never any assumptions abour preloaded regimes, are
> there?). The mess with iso-8859-1 is more or less my fault. I fixed
> up iso-8859-15 but never bothered with the old one.
>   
ok, so we only preload utf and the rest runtime 

Hans 

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

i uploaded a beta:

- a fix to verbatim (has to do with linenumbering)
- a cleaned up 'paragraph' mechanism (prelude to a real cleanup)
- some patches to the newmml module

i'll promote this to current when no problems are reported

Hans

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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i uploaded a beta:
> 
> - a fix to verbatim (has to do with linenumbering)
> - a cleaned up 'paragraph' mechanism (prelude to a real cleanup)
> - some patches to the newmml module
> 
> i'll promote this to current when no problems are reported

Initial tests are fine, I say you already hard the math extensions
included as well. But I have not tested the new 'paragraph' stuff,
aqnd I do not know the status of the 'Curious blank page' problem.

Remaining open (recent) items:

Feature Reqs:

*  \definetyping[prog][numbering=line,location=intext] % from nico
*  The latest bib module
*  \usemodule[...p=...][modulename] % from Thomas and me

Bugs:

* The broken eq reference (at least IMO this is a bug)
   \starttext
   \placeformula[eqn1]
   \startformula \startalign[n=1] a\\ \stopalign \stopformula
   See \in[eqn1]
   \stoptext

* Duncan's xtag-mml patch (on this dev list, 03/24)

* My \dodoregister patch (also in this list, 02/22)

Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Initial tests are fine, I say you already hard the math extensions
> included as well. But I have not tested the new 'paragraph' stuff,
> aqnd I do not know the status of the 'Curious blank page' problem.

   Initial tests are fine, I saw you already had the math extensions
   included as well. But I have not tested the new 'paragraph' stuff,
   and I do not know the status of the 'Curious blank page' problem.

I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS

Cheers, taco

Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>   
>> Initial tests are fine, I say you already hard the math extensions
>> included as well. But I have not tested the new 'paragraph' stuff,
>> aqnd I do not know the status of the 'Curious blank page' problem.
>>     
>
>    Initial tests are fine, I saw you already had the math extensions
>    included as well. But I have not tested the new 'paragraph' stuff,
>    and I do not know the status of the 'Curious blank page' problem.
>
> I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
> I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
> I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
> I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
> I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
> I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
> I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
> I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
> I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
> I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS
>   
\dorecurse{10}{I MUST PRACTICE MY TYPING SKILLS\par}

Hans 

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Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> *  \definetyping[prog][numbering=line,location=intext] % from nico
>   
should work now
> *  The latest bib module
>   
i should pick up that one
> *  \usemodule[...p=...][modulename] % from Thomas and me
>   
can you explain a bit

Hans

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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hans Hagen wrote:
>>*  \usemodule[...p=...][modulename] % from Thomas and me
>>  
> can you explain a bit

We would like the possibility to have options while loading
modules, and the cleanest way of doing that is to have an
optional argument to \usemodule, so we can have, e.g.:

   \usemodule[font=GreekTimes,scale=1100][greek]

And in the module:

   \processaction[\moduleparameter\v!font]
      [....=>]

etcetera. just like a 'normal' parameter.

I know this effect can partially be implemented using modes,
but sometimes a  key=value syntax is much cleaner. This:

    \enablemode[GreekTimes1100]
    \usemodule[greek]

is not nearly as flexible.


Cheers, Taco

Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
>   
>>> *  \usemodule[...p=...][modulename] % from Thomas and me
>>>  
>>>       
>> can you explain a bit
>>     
>
> We would like the possibility to have options while loading
> modules, and the cleanest way of doing that is to have an
> optional argument to \usemodule, so we can have, e.g.:
>
>    \usemodule[font=GreekTimes,scale=1100][greek]
>
> And in the module:
>
>    \processaction[\moduleparameter\v!font]
>       [....=>]
>
> etcetera. just like a 'normal' parameter.
>
> I know this effect can partially be implemented using modes,
> but sometimes a  key=value syntax is much cleaner. This:
>
>     \enablemode[GreekTimes1100]
>     \usemodule[greek]
>
> is not nearly as flexible.
>   
ok, i'll add such a feature (btw, usemodule takes two args currently:

\usemodule[x][newmml]

so effectively we will have:

\usemodule[newmml]
\usemodule[newmml][a=b]
\usemodule[x][newmml]
\usemodule[x][newmml][a=b]

Hans

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Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

<--- On Mar 30, Taco Hoekwater wrote --->

> * The broken eq reference (at least IMO this is a bug)
>   \starttext
>   \placeformula[eqn1]
>   \startformula \startalign[n=1] a\\ \stopalign \stopformula
>   See \in[eqn1]
>   \stoptext

I am not sure that this is a bug. Infact, I am not behaviour is 
expected.
\placeformula[eq1]
\startformula \startalign[n=1]
  a \\
  b \\
\stopalign \stopformula
What should \in[eqn1] refer to? The first eqn, the second, or both?

Aditya


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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> <--- On Mar 30, Taco Hoekwater wrote --->
> 
>>* The broken eq reference (at least IMO this is a bug)
>>  \starttext
>>  \placeformula[eqn1]
>>  \startformula \startalign[n=1] a\\ \stopalign \stopformula
>>  See \in[eqn1]
>>  \stoptext
> 
> I am not sure that this is a bug. Infact, I am not behaviour is 
> expected.
> \placeformula[eq1]
> \startformula \startalign[n=1]
>   a \\
>   b \\
> \stopalign \stopformula
> What should \in[eqn1] refer to? The first eqn, the second, or both?

Both, perhaps. But it could as well take the first one, or the last.
My rationale is: if there is a label given by the user, then
referring to that should resolve into something that is a valid link.
It is definately inconsistent to discard a supplied label because it's
contents may be unresolvable.

Taco

Re: beta

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>> <--- On Mar 30, Taco Hoekwater wrote --->
>>
>>> * The broken eq reference (at least IMO this is a bug)
>>>  \starttext
>>>  \placeformula[eqn1]
>>>  \startformula \startalign[n=1] a\\ \stopalign \stopformula
>>>  See \in[eqn1]
>>>  \stoptext
>>
>> I am not sure that this is a bug. Infact, I am not behaviour is
>> expected.
>> \placeformula[eq1]
>> \startformula \startalign[n=1]
>>   a \\
>>   b \\
>> \stopalign \stopformula
>> What should \in[eqn1] refer to? The first eqn, the second, or both?
>
> Both, perhaps. But it could as well take the first one, or the last.
> My rationale is: if there is a label given by the user, then
> referring to that should resolve into something that is a valid link.
> It is definately inconsistent to discard a supplied label because it's
> contents may be unresolvable.

I agree on that. The label must refer to something. However, explaining 
what it refers to can quickly get confusing. The numbering should remain 
consistent with or without the label.

\placeformula[eq1]
\startformula \startalign
\NC a \NC b \NR
\NC c \NC d \NR[+]
\stopalign \stopformula
The first equation should not be numbered. But then this is something like 
the "ugly loose label" in latex.

And what about
\placeformula[eq1]
\startformula \startalign
\NC a \NC b \NR
\NC c \NC d \NR
\stopalign \stopformula

The numbering should be consistent with or without the label. Which means 
that there should be no numbering. What should the label refer to now?

Aditya

Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>   
>> Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>>     
>>> <--- On Mar 30, Taco Hoekwater wrote --->
>>>
>>>       
>>>> * The broken eq reference (at least IMO this is a bug)
>>>>  \starttext
>>>>  \placeformula[eqn1]
>>>>  \startformula \startalign[n=1] a\\ \stopalign \stopformula
>>>>  See \in[eqn1]
>>>>  \stoptext
>>>>         
>>> I am not sure that this is a bug. Infact, I am not behaviour is
>>> expected.
>>> \placeformula[eq1]
>>> \startformula \startalign[n=1]
>>>   a \\
>>>   b \\
>>> \stopalign \stopformula
>>> What should \in[eqn1] refer to? The first eqn, the second, or both?
>>>       
>> Both, perhaps. But it could as well take the first one, or the last.
>> My rationale is: if there is a label given by the user, then
>> referring to that should resolve into something that is a valid link.
>> It is definately inconsistent to discard a supplied label because it's
>> contents may be unresolvable.
>>     
>
> I agree on that. The label must refer to something. However, explaining 
> what it refers to can quickly get confusing. The numbering should remain 
> consistent with or without the label.
>
> \placeformula[eq1]
> \startformula \startalign
> \NC a \NC b \NR
> \NC c \NC d \NR[+]
> \stopalign \stopformula
> The first equation should not be numbered. But then this is something like 
> the "ugly loose label" in latex.
>
> And what about
> \placeformula[eq1]
> \startformula \startalign
> \NC a \NC b \NR
> \NC c \NC d \NR
> \stopalign \stopformula
>
> The numbering should be consistent with or without the label. Which means 
> that there should be no numbering. What should the label refer to now?
>   
i've now changed the code so that in  

   \placeformula[eq1]... \NC[+] 

the number is refered to as eq1

  \placeformula[eq1]... \NC[eq2] 

here eq1 gets lost, while  

  \placeformula... \NC[eq3] 

is the prefered way 

Hans 

 

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Re: beta

[Gerben Wierda]

On 29 Mar 2006, at 17:47, Hans Hagen wrote:

> i'll promote this to current when no problems are reported

lettrine is missing

G

Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Gerben Wierda wrote:
> On 29 Mar 2006, at 17:47, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>   
>> i'll promote this to current when no problems are reported
>>     
>
> lettrine is missing
>   
that's a third party module (for which i need to find a way to fetch them from the wiki and build an extra zip) 

Hans 

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Re: beta

[Taco Hoekwater]

Gerben Wierda wrote:
> On 29 Mar 2006, at 17:47, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
> 
>>i'll promote this to current when no problems are reported

New stuff in the last beta:

* support for ancient greek (untested)
* some changes to m-streams (untested)
* unic-032 and unic-033 are extended
* a grouping fix in typing environments
* a fix for delimitedtext (Gerben's quotation bug)
* \startsubstack ... stopsubstack added
* the change for equation label behvaiour. If you want
   to test it, change the \NC's in Hans' example to \NR's.
   (a bare \startformula ... \NR[eq4] \stopformula doesnt
    work, but I am not surprised about that)
* modules can have arguments now
* accents in MP graphics are restored (Mojca's bug)
* unicode vector 37 is loaded (box drawing)
* a very small fix to trimming in newtexexec
* a \dodoregister fix, but see below


Bugs/omissions in the beta:

* In core-reg.tex, \doflushatpar has gone in favour of \dogotpar,
   but \complexdoseeregister and \dodolinkedregister still use it.
* \startsubstack ... stopsubstack still uses the \vadjust I wrote,
   not Hans' improved version
* The bibliography module is still ancient
* Duncan's xtag-mml patch (on this dev list, 03/24)

Cheers, Taco

Re: beta

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
> * In core-reg.tex, \doflushatpar has gone in favour of \dogotpar,
>    but \complexdoseeregister and \dodolinkedregister still use it.
>   
done
> * \startsubstack ... stopsubstack still uses the \vadjust I wrote,
>    not Hans' improved version
>   
done
> * The bibliography module is still ancient
>   
why can't i do: wget -r http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/
> * Duncan's xtag-mml patch (on this dev list, 03/24)
>   
done

Hans


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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

i'm uploading a beta with

- some changes/cleanups/extensions in the utf code
- reorganization of chinese and japanese [new]
- mathalignment (in core-mat) so don't use the posted math-ext now
- a few fixes/extensions here and there

(more info in release notes when there is a new current release)

Hans

ps. i still need to add all those regimes mojca made

beta

[Hans Hagen]

I uploaded a new bet awith a couple of (discussed) patches.

Hans
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beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi, 

BTW, for the brave testers: \skipfontcharacteristicstrue is really faster
in the new beta-beta. If i'm right, font switching is much faster now
anyway [interesting side effect of more complicated support] but maybe that
is wishful thinking.  

Hans

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beta

[Hans Hagen]

The new temp naming sheme introduced a spurious space in the figure
inclusion (mprun prefix testing). I uploaded a new beta. 

Hans 

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