setup for (start)paragraph?

setup for (start)paragraph?

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

there seems to be a confusion in contextgarden (at least *I* am confused):

Isn't there also a setup for "\startparagraph ... \stopparagraph"???

"\defineparagraphs" is something different, no?


See
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/startparagraph

"Reference/en/startparagraph
\startparagraph

[edit]Syntax

\startparagraph ... \stopparagraph
[edit]Description

[edit]Example

% Source: ConText Manual ms-cb-en.pdf

% Define a paragraph environment with 3 columns. 
% Insert a blank line just before and just after the paragraph. 
\defineparagraphs[mypar][n=3,before={\blank},after={\blank}]"
 


Steffen
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Re: setup for (start)paragraph?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

  Am 11.08.10 21:20, schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
> Hi,
>
> there seems to be a confusion in contextgarden (at least *I* am confused):
>
> Isn't there also a setup for "\startparagraph ... \stopparagraph"???

This should be \startPARAGRAPH ... \stopPARAGRAPH where PARAGRAPH stands
for the name of the environment you create with \defineparagraphs.

In MkIV there is also a real paragraph environment (\startparagraph ... 
\stopparagraph)
which is usefull for tagged pdf.

Wolfgang

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Re: setup for (start)paragraph?

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 11.08.2010 um 21:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

> Am 11.08.10 21:20, schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> there seems to be a confusion in contextgarden (at least *I* am confused):
>> 
>> Isn't there also a setup for "\startparagraph ... \stopparagraph"???
> 
> This should be \startPARAGRAPH ... \stopPARAGRAPH where PARAGRAPH stands
> for the name of the environment you create with \defineparagraphs.
> 
> In MkIV there is also a real paragraph environment (\startparagraph ... \stopparagraph)
> which is usefull for tagged pdf.


Exactly. And is there also a dedicated setup for  "\startparagraph ... \stopparagraph"?

Steffen
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Re: setup for (start)paragraph?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

  Am 11.08.10 21:32, schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>>> there seems to be a confusion in contextgarden (at least *I* am confused):
>>>
>>> Isn't there also a setup for "\startparagraph ... \stopparagraph"???
>> This should be \startPARAGRAPH ... \stopPARAGRAPH where PARAGRAPH stands
>> for the name of the environment you create with \defineparagraphs.
>>
>> In MkIV there is also a real paragraph environment (\startparagraph ... \stopparagraph)
>> which is usefull for tagged pdf.
> Exactly. And is there also a dedicated setup for  "\startparagraph ... \stopparagraph"?

No because the environment adds only tags before and after the 
environment, nothing else.

Wolfgang

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Re: setup for (start)paragraph?

[Hans Hagen]

On 11-8-2010 9:38, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 11.08.10 21:32, schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>>>> there seems to be a confusion in contextgarden (at least *I* am
>>>> confused):
>>>>
>>>> Isn't there also a setup for "\startparagraph ... \stopparagraph"???
>>> This should be \startPARAGRAPH ... \stopPARAGRAPH where PARAGRAPH stands
>>> for the name of the environment you create with \defineparagraphs.
>>>
>>> In MkIV there is also a real paragraph environment (\startparagraph
>>> ... \stopparagraph)
>>> which is usefull for tagged pdf.
>> Exactly. And is there also a dedicated setup for "\startparagraph ...
>> \stopparagraph"?
>
> No because the environment adds only tags before and after the
> environment, nothing else.

indeed. but there will be something someday; maybe we should reserve the 
setup command

Hans


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Re: setup for (start)paragraph?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

  Am 11.08.10 21:44, schrieb Hans Hagen:
>>> Exactly. And is there also a dedicated setup for "\startparagraph ...
>>> \stopparagraph"?
>>
>> No because the environment adds only tags before and after the
>> environment, nothing else.
>
>
> indeed. but there will be something someday; maybe we should reserve 
> the setup command

Good idea but now there are two environment for normal paragraphs:

- \startparagraph/stopparagraph
- \bpar/\epar

Wolfgang

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Re: setup for (start)paragraph?

[Hans Hagen]

On 11-8-2010 9:49, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 11.08.10 21:44, schrieb Hans Hagen:
>>>> Exactly. And is there also a dedicated setup for "\startparagraph ...
>>>> \stopparagraph"?
>>>
>>> No because the environment adds only tags before and after the
>>> environment, nothing else.
>>
>>
>> indeed. but there will be something someday; maybe we should reserve
>> the setup command
>
> Good idea but now there are two environment for normal paragraphs:
>
> - \startparagraph/stopparagraph
> - \bpar/\epar

Indeed, as i didn't want to use that one (yet) for tagging.

At some point luatex will open op the par related info so about that 
time i'll pick up this thread. For instance mkiv will carry info with a 
paragraph (which then can replace some of the pos related code)

Hans

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