From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/60986 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: textext vs. btex ... etex Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:34:33 +0200 Message-ID: <4C6AAC09.3080405@wxs.nl> References: <21CE9841-242A-4F91-B2DF-FBB8722FB5C9@mpq.mpg.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1282059283 7202 80.91.229.12 (17 Aug 2010 15:34:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:34:43 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Aug 17 17:34:41 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OlOBV-0008En-0O for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:34:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11728CA565; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:34:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Z7Mp5KNO6OiM; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:34:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE10CA562; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:34:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E626CA562 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:34:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 4z4SoxQXHOzj for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:34:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (filter4-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.72]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932FACA246 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:34:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (sc-162.r-213-125-29.schoolconnect.nu [213.125.29.162]) by filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id o7HFYWhu032455 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:34:33 +0200 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.100; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 4.3g4) with ESMTP id 6429-1713362 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:32:38 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 ThunderBrowse/3.3.2 In-Reply-To: <21CE9841-242A-4F91-B2DF-FBB8722FB5C9@mpq.mpg.de> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.002 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=11; city=Den Haag; latitude=52.0833; longitude=4.3000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.0833,4.3000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 03CTryxVS - a1e1cf504cb2 - 20100817 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.72 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:60986 Archived-At: On 17-8-2010 4:32, Oliver Buerschaper wrote: > Hi, > > I've been trying to troubleshoot a problem with TeX labels I ran into the other day... finally I discovered that > > 1. MkIV (textext) includes TeX material as one single chunk apparently while MkII (btex ... etex) used to include a decomposable picture and that > 2. the anchor point is completely different! > > Is there any way to restore both the "individual addressing" of glyphs and the MkII anchor point in MkIV? > > This would be crucial for a customized labelling macro... > > Best, > Oliver > > > P.S. Why is "h," included as one piece in MkII? the fact that you have pieces in mkii is a side effect of dvitomp turning dvi output in mp pictures; in the process it combines glyphs that have no kerning and whatever spacing becomes shifts in mkiv the text is treated as a whole and that will not change so, if in mkiv you want pieces, you need to textext each snippet that you want as such keep in mind that the way mkii (read: external tex processing and dvitomp) works is quite unpredictable Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________